The Horrifying and Harrowing Case Of Celestina Sommer

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6 ай бұрын

The sensational case that took place in mid-19th century London that made people ask, do the courts give women lighter sentences than men.
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@elbo47 2 ай бұрын

5:45 pm

@BoingBB 6 ай бұрын

She didn't want the stigma of being the mother of an illegitimate daughter but ended up with the shame of being a murderer.

@NoseyNuNu 6 ай бұрын

I never understand that just like the people that won't get divorced and resort to murder. Idk how they don't think murder is worse. 🥴

@cruisepaige 6 ай бұрын

Where was the father?

@BoingBB 6 ай бұрын

@@cruisepaige Who knows? He wasn't mentioned in the video. In earlier times when villages were owned by the local Lord of the Manor (who was also the magistrate) they had six-monthly Court meetings, where she would have been brought into court and made to name the father, who would then be summoned to pay maintenance for the child (failure to do so would have meant imprisonment for him). If she refused to name him she would have been sent to prison herself. Harsh but villages couldn't be expected to bring up residents' children. Most were too poor to do that.

@pablojaramillo2866 5 ай бұрын

😮7.@@cruisepaige

@Bee-ly4gx 5 ай бұрын

That’s how bad the stigma was.

@jennaolbermann7663 6 ай бұрын

It has always bothered me that women are blamed and shamed for having children when they’re not married, never the men. It takes two to tango. Her poor daughter didn’t deserve what she got, she should have had a chance to live her life.

@reneedennis2011 6 ай бұрын

I agree. Double standards 😒.

@mod8179 6 ай бұрын

Well.. Think about it though. Biologically men have (on average) a higher sex drive-especially younger men who also have a tendency to take risks more easily due to not having a fully developed brain until well into their 20s. Young men at this time couldn’t necessarily be held responsible because there was no way to prove a child was theirs unless they admitted it. Women on the other hand are (on average) more adept at making less risky decisions at a younger age and have more to risk due to it being pretty easy to prove someone is the mother to a baby that she is actively pregnant with or birthing. Societies do better, historically, when families stick together.. Children tend to be healthier physically and emotionally when raised with mothers and fathers, and families statistically do better financially when they are unbroken. So it makes sense to “blame” someone for single parenthood (even if the way society does it is messed up) because we know it isn’t necessarily a healthy thing… It’s just always been a heck of a lot easier (before DNA testing) to prove who the mother was, so naturally, she’s the one that catches the heat. Which is why virtue was pushed so hard on young women, to help avoid the disaster that came with having children single/out of wedlock. It’s unfair, but biologically it makes sense.

@gardenx5574 6 ай бұрын

There was no way to prove paternity so it was easy for men to deny their parentage.

@CATNAPREAL1188 6 ай бұрын

What most people don't realize is that since time began it has been women and their children who have born the burden of shame until the late 60's or early 70's it was Always the woman's fault and quite often the pregnancy was a result of rape and often incest.

@pickettywitchoriginal 5 ай бұрын

@@mod8179the Jezebel and the poor men don’t know any better syndrome.😉😉

@pimpozza 6 ай бұрын

What a tragedy Celestina's daughter was removed from Mrs Harrington's care after a decade! A mother telling her daughter to _HUSH_ as she commits such a heinous act sends shivers down my spine.. what a monster! *WHY* did she do it?! Rachel was clearly terrified of her mistress, which makes me wonder about Celestina's personality! 😢 Unmarried mothers at the time definitely had a hard time, but Celestina did marry later.. Could her husband really not spare the money for the child's foster care? 😔 Was Celestina really insane? I guess we'll never know.. Thanks, as always BC💼 for a brilliant presentation of a sad and harrowing crime.. 👏👍

@Boo675jhggg 6 ай бұрын

Times were really hard in Victorian England.

@pimpozza 6 ай бұрын

@@Boo675jhggg They certainly were, Boo.. 😔

@andrearamirez9924 6 ай бұрын

@@pimpozza"Was Celestina really insane? I guess we'll never know" You're absolutely right. A person who kills her own daughter is TOTALLY sane. It must have been some OTHER reason than insanity that a woman would have murdered her own daughter because her husband didn't want to pay for the care and upkeep for a child that was not his. 🙄 what a stupid thing to say.

@pimpozza 6 ай бұрын

@@andrearamirez9924 Sorry, Andrea.. I didn't quite understand.. what was a _"stupid thing to say"?_

@Mengalamerkle 6 ай бұрын

ITS CALL. PSYCHO. SOCIETAL PRESSURES AT THAT TIME WERE INSANE

@shelleydaly1726 6 ай бұрын

I’ve heard about conditions in the prisons and the asylums. She may have escaped the death penalty but she didn’t escape justice.

@ReligiousReflections-pk2tz 3 ай бұрын

Well said

@sapphoslips 6 ай бұрын

What kind of affluent husband wouldn’t spare half a crown a week to support a child that should be in his wife’s care? What about the grandfather? What a monstrous case all round!

@Agapy8888 6 ай бұрын

Unbelievable. Right?

@C-Here 6 ай бұрын

I agree...😢😢

@WhitneyAllisonGG 6 ай бұрын

Normal Husband. Many ex husbands don't even want to pay child support in our times. In the United States made it mandatory because in voluntary the ex husbands will not pay. Because there's no system to support women who are single mothers back then is the reason why Baby Farms exist. Celestine Husband resented the payment of the daughter because he didn't see it was his responsibility. Wives were totally reliant on the generosity of the Husbands.

@PaleMagnolia 6 ай бұрын

The family apparently had the money for a full-time maid but not to support the child. I wonder if Mr Sommer even knew about little Celestina at all!

@WhitneyAllisonGG 6 ай бұрын

@@PaleMagnoliaI think he found out. Celestine Sommers was spending £1530 equivalent to today's money on the care of her daughter per month. Something like that is hard to ignore. Probably the maid was way less expensive than this payment. An Victorian Maid made between £1 to £12 per year

@andrealittle2836 6 ай бұрын

Poor little child. I think the mother guilty as everything was premeditated. She did not form a bond with the girl as someone else raised her. Even so, what kind of evil allows to slit a 10 year old sweet innocent’s throat?

@TiffWaffles 4 ай бұрын

I believe wholeheartedly that this woman wanted to murder the child to get rid of her. This child represented the shame that she carried of having a child out of wedlock. According to somebody in the comments, they found evidence that support was being paid to the child's care every month, and she probably wanted that money for herself. She hated the child and considered her a threat. I mean, she was getting older and would have looked like her mother... the knowledge that there was something that was possibly going to take everything you built up is too much for a lot of people. This woman wanted to take out the threat. She hated the child and she decided to collect her and murder her.

@phinhnanthasone1231 6 ай бұрын

The jury just debating 15 minutes was lightning fast!

@foxesofautumn 6 ай бұрын

She could afford a maid but not to keep her child? And if the latter was true why not just put her in service as she said? Needless and horrible. Her penalty was fair.

@Marcel_Audubon 5 ай бұрын

it was never about the money, it was about hiding the fact that she had an illegitimate child

@TiffWaffles 4 ай бұрын

She didn't want her child because of the stigma associated with women giving birth to children out of wedlock. You could not be a single mother or living in a common law relationship with children during the Victorian period. I think this was planned on this woman's part. She didn't want the child, didn't want to keep sending money to the child's care (somebody apparently found evidence that support was being sent to the child's care, and it was a lot of money), and didn't want anyone finding out that she had this child... so, she got the child back because she wanted to kill her.

@Marcel_Audubon 4 ай бұрын

@@TiffWaffles "You could not be a single mother or living in a common law relationship with children during the Victorian period" ... and yet millions of ladies did it without murdering their offspring. Millions.

@ReligiousReflections-pk2tz 3 ай бұрын

True. Since I doubt her husband even knew that she had a child. I am guessing that she could tell her not to say who her mom was. Or that it was her caregiver.

@deirdrepasko9056 2 ай бұрын

@@TiffWaffles Rubbish! It was her Parents who didn't want the child, Not Celestina. If Celestina didn't want want her daughter all she had to do was put her up for adoption, stating that the father had died. Instead, she placed her in a home for orphans and PAID for her for ten years. Paying child support for ten years hardly hardly constitutes "not wanting the child". -It was her husband who wanted to stop paying, Not the mother.

@orientalrose4388 6 ай бұрын

This case puts me in mind of a novel by Charles Dickens, “Dombey & Son”. In his story, a girl, Florence Dombey, about the same age as little Celestina, gets lost and separated from her wealthy respected shipowning family during a day out, and is kidnapped by a shady lady of the streets, “Good Mrs Brown”. She is then taken to a dodgy lodging house, threatened with having her throat cut, her good clothes taken away, to be sold, her hair cut off, to be sold. Then Florence is dressed in rags and turned out on the streets again. By this time no one recognises her so she can’t find her family, and is only saved by the family’s messenger boy who hears her asking strangers in the street if they know of the firm “Dombey & Son”. All Florence had were words to try and survive as well. In the story fortunately she survives and is taken back into her family - I wish little Celestina’s story could been so lucky. We don’t completely know what happened, here, but It seems to me that if you were a child then and found yourself on the wrong side of the tracks, or fell out of your own social class, a lot could go wrong. Dickens was one of the first writers who saw these children’s plight from their point of view, and published stories about them, which were immensely popular at the time and still are. Thank you for a great and thought-provoking episode Brief Case!

@jamesrobiscoe1174 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the comparison to "Dombey & Son." I think also of "Little Dorritt" Dickens had a real sentimental streak when it came to vulnerable children.

@jenniehudson5742 2 ай бұрын

If she didn't want the poor child, why not just leave her with her adoptive family?poor kid

@orientalrose4388 2 ай бұрын

@@jenniehudson5742 I’ve had a think about this question of why Celestina wasn’t just left with her adoptive family. Unfortunately it was fairly commonplace for children at that time to be put to work to pay off family debts - Charles Dickens himself was put to work by his parents at the age of nine in a boot blacking factory. It was after this that laws began to be passed to prohibit child labour so children couldn’t be used in this way. So there has been a lot of progress since then

@colleens1878 6 ай бұрын

What a monster Some people are embodiment of evil That poor child 😢

@SUGAs_Shadow85 6 ай бұрын

She was so beautiful. So sad she didn't get to grow up 😢

@Marie.b 6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say she was the "embodiment of evil". I googled its meaning and it says "utterly devoid of good". Hmmm, I'm sure she had some good in her, at some stage in her life. Good people can do bad things. We all have a breaking point.

@Marcel_Audubon 5 ай бұрын

@@Marie.b you're defending a woman who slit her own 10 year old's throat?? what is wrong with you, Marie? find another hill to die on, this is not it, ferchrissakes!

@CrypticCharm 6 ай бұрын

"i know of this story, what i always find interesting was the historically "Baby Farmers" were mean and abusive according to most stories, but Celestina survived until she was 10, until her mother collected her, and then killed her. but give it a few years and the child would have started work, in service or a factory, even though it was hard labour hell, even if the mother had a bit of imagination, she could have "adopted" Celestina or pretended that she was a deceased cousin's daughter. even though the murder was so badly thought out, did she actually think no servant would hear her killing her own daughter in the cellar, where they sleep?

@markcarpenter6020 6 ай бұрын

Considering the time period and her appearance there was a very high chance the girl would have ended up a prostitute in a child brothel (there were massive amounts of them in Victorian England) within a few years.

@BronnyJames2025MVP 6 ай бұрын

Baby farming is another capitalist monstrosity. Capitalism has murdered over 3 billion innocent humans since the 1700s. Westerners hate that fact.

@DianeLake-sw3ym 6 ай бұрын

It is true that the little girl could have been passed off as the child of a family member. Or dear childhood friend fallen on hard times. No one would know the truth. To murder this child was unforgivable.

@markcarpenter6020 6 ай бұрын

@@DianeLake-sw3ym that would depend on how much the child resembled her mother. If she was like myself (I look almost identical to my father except for my hair color) then tongues were gonna wag and gossip would spread.

@BoingBB 6 ай бұрын

@@markcarpenter6020 There is often a family resemblance though, which would be enough to allay suspicion. Sometimes cousins look very much alike and could pass for siblings. One of my great grandmother's sisters fell pregnant at a young age, so obviously couldn't look after a child, so she gave the girl to her eldest (married) sister who raised her without a problem. Sometimes the child would be raised by the grandparents and told their mother was actually an older sister. In those days you did whatever was necessary.

@1tarawho 5 ай бұрын

Many children were horribly abused in all ways back in those days. When i was in college years ago, I did a report on the children who worked in the factories in the 1800s. Almost as soon as a child could walk well, like 3 years old, these children were put in horrible, hot, rat infested factories to work. These poor babies died by the hundreds each year due to the abuse they endured. Children were small so they were put behind big machines and told to fix the machine when it broke down. When the machine started to run again, the children were trapped behind the machine until the worked stopped for the day. The child would have to sit there all day and many died due to getting crushed by machinery and many other accidents. It was just an awful time to be a kid in those days...

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Yes, it certainly was awful. The factory act was passed in Britain in I think 1833, which was meant to prevent children under 9 from working in Mills, even so that was very young

@louellamariapote9895 3 ай бұрын

True. Very sad. Even animals didn't have any rights. There was no humane or humanity.

@peggyjaeger9280 6 ай бұрын

What a sad story. Things really sucked in those days for the children and women ,too. Stuck with the burden of an unwanted child. The father nowhere to be seen. That poor baby never had a chance. Glad your channel is drawing more attention to the victims of these crimes.

@PeaceSM1954 6 ай бұрын

How so very sad….RIP dear little daughter 🌹

@barb-jm7990 6 ай бұрын

This case bothers me more than most of your cases. That poor child! Not wanted at birth and then just murdered by her own mother to save money. Just terrible!!

@ReligiousReflections-pk2tz 3 ай бұрын

I wonder who taught the mother economics? Plain barbaric

@luciebrisson5881 6 ай бұрын

Celestina's family knew the child was hers, I wonder if she even went to them about her lack of means and asked for help. What she did should not have been an option and was monstruous. Ugh, leaves me with a feeling of pure disgust and outrage. Poor little Celestina was the innocent yet her own mother made her pay for her indiscretion and inability to provide for her. Thank you Brief Case for this sad story from a bygone era.

@DianeLake-sw3ym 6 ай бұрын

The poor little girl. She was okay in the foster home but, for some reason her mother decided it was too expensive now. You have to wonder if the mother took the little girl away from her foster home with the idea of murdering her then. How heartbreaking

@aparnarajesh 6 ай бұрын

Her foster mother and maid care her as their own

@cruisepaige 6 ай бұрын

Well it wasn’t like the Father would help or be shamed if he didn’t.

@nlwilson4892 5 ай бұрын

The thing is, she was old enough that she could have found work for her with a live-in position. So she could have easily got rid of her without killing her.

@NikkiC777 4 ай бұрын

I thought that too, that she probably took her away from the foster home planning the crime all the while. That's why she lied about having found her a job, to the people she was living with in the foster home, giving the job as the reason she was taking her away, when there wasn't one to begin with. Then she just brought her home and committed the crime soon after.

@ReligiousReflections-pk2tz 3 ай бұрын

There isn't an alternate scenario to this brutality on the poor child. The mother was vile.

@wondergranny2299 6 ай бұрын

Horrible that she could murder her own daughter.

@K-Mariposa 6 ай бұрын

The description the maid gave describing what she heard happening - oh my goodness - heartbreaking 💔. The poor child. Thanks for sharing BC.

@Marcel_Audubon 5 ай бұрын

it's even worse in the court record - the mother is taunting the child while she's choking to death on her own blood, calling her a bit%* and a liar - this is a 10 year old, mind you, who had never before spent a day in her mother's care. The mother snuck her into the house late at night and marched her straight to the cellar. Poor little girl. The maid is lucky the woman thought she was asleep or she woulda been victim no. 2

@cmay7429 5 ай бұрын

It honestly sounds a bit dubious to me. The maid heard all that, perfectly clearly, and didn't see fit to intervene? Also, if the child's throat was being cut, how would she scream - I'm being murdered? Wouldn't there have been blood EVERYWHERE? We' re talking arterial spray here. But all the cops found was a blood splattered dress?? Why would the child say, "SOMEONE wants to cut my throat?" Why not, YOU want to cut my throat, or SHE'S trying to cut my throat. Just seems... Odd.

@Marcel_Audubon 5 ай бұрын

@@cmay7429 you, rolling in all 3rd rate Sherlock Holmes 170 years later is what seems ... (dramatic ellipsis) odd to me.

@hogwashmcturnip8930 5 ай бұрын

@@Marcel_Audubon Why,, because s/he is talking sense? I admit there is very little of it around today. Keep sucking the BS up, little hoover! Don't want you overtaxing that braincell! It is obvious that the maid's story was bollocks. Her 15 minutes of fame. She wasn't expecting the mob to turn against Her.

@hogwashmcturnip8930 5 ай бұрын

@@cmay7429 Arterial spray is not always present, I watched a forensic bloke explaining it all the other night In another old case where there was hardly any blood. If she had tried to strangle the child first it would have affected the blood flow .Or something like that. But then of course she couldn't have come out with all the guff the maid claimed she heard. We only have a few crumbs of the Real story here.

@moondancer4660 6 ай бұрын

I can't figure out why this woman killed her daughter. She was 10 years old which means she could have been put to work to pay her own bread and board, most children back then were put to work at younger ages. I can't believe the woman got married without telling her husband about the baby even if she did feel like she must make up a lie to tell her husband, I just can't believe she murdered the child😢 I realize some women killed their babies and some women gave their babies over to women who said they would take care of them but then they killed them that I just can't imagine standing behind my 10-year-old daughter and slicing her throat!!

@Marcel_Audubon 5 ай бұрын

her husband probably didn't know about her existence

@theresaallen8889 6 ай бұрын

Good Morning, Listening to Brief Case before the students come into the classroom. Better than caffeine.

@ColleenDaumen2 6 ай бұрын

Off topic but Celestina is such a beautiful name.... another riveting story for us today, BC, thank you so much. Cheers! 🩷🖤🩷🖤🩷

@pshaw8406 5 ай бұрын

I thought saw, too.

@primesspct2 5 ай бұрын

I thought so too!

@user-hx1jf3ll8p 5 ай бұрын

I agree. I've always liked the name Celeste and when I saw the name Celestina, I thought, that's a pretty name, never thought of this name.

@jphidalgo39 Ай бұрын

Celestina Christmas! ❤❤❤❤. I agree! very elegant.

@lolodahab3455 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Brief Case But for the first time I’ll say I wish I didn’t listen to this case! Brought so much tears and sadness to imagine what this 10 year old endured at the hands of her own mother it’s breaks my hearts to pieces! Unfortunately life failed her , her mother failed her and justice failed her Rest in peace little angel 😭

@Zaft_K 6 ай бұрын

There are more ways for justice to be served than the death penalty. Mrs. Sommers was justly incarcerated and life in a Victorian prison was no picnic. Then she died so early. Yes, she was punished.

@sheilagravely5621 5 ай бұрын

She wept because her arse got caught, not for murdering her child. Pos

@J-Williams 6 ай бұрын

It's hard to believe that the Sommers could not afford the upkeep of Celestina's daughter when Carl was gainfully employed as an "in demand" silversmith. I think he may have been worried about losing his place in "polite society" should it be discovered that Celestina birthed a child outside of wedlock. I also don't understand why the crowd chose to terrorize the witnesses Rachel and her sister Rebecca. Did they believe that the sisters were the true murderers? Historically, women were often given lighter sentences (or acquitted altogether), because it was hard for people to believe that a member of the "fairer sex" could commit heinous crimes. However, that misconception has changed over the years.

@rhino5100 6 ай бұрын

At least in the US, only men could serve on juries until well into the 20th century.

@JBrodo 6 ай бұрын

I was also so confused why the mob went after Rachel and Rebecca!

@celeste.cutz2020 5 ай бұрын

I am not sure, but I think they were just trying to blame the help. Then the people that were wealthy had an out. Poor people are more likely to have committed crimes like murder.

@desertdaisymarie6951 3 ай бұрын

Maybe that testimony sounded like a bunch of bollocks??

@Eirinen_E34 5 ай бұрын

So happy to see another BC video! 🎉 Poor child... such an evil act committed by her own mother. Unfathomable!

@journeysalkebulan 6 ай бұрын

What a beautiful child. Some people are just evil!

@markcarpenter6020 6 ай бұрын

I hate to say it but in that time period (when child brothels were a massive issue in England) with her appearance and background....it might have been a mercy.

@mola.s 6 ай бұрын

I think these images are AI-generated

@Brothapocalypse 5 ай бұрын

@@mola.sthey are

@londonsage8696 6 ай бұрын

Good morning Mr. Brief Case, Stories involving children always break my heart because they’re so innocent. I’ll never understand why an adult chooses to hurt a child, especially in such a brutal way. There was really no justice because Constantina was 28 years old and died three years later. I used to struggle with the death penalty, but when it came to children being killed by an adult in such a horrendous way, I had no problem, thinking they deserved the death penalty. To this day, the most hardened criminals in prison they even have codes. If they find out an inmate has harmed a child they will come after you even as far as to murder you. Thank you for another intriguing mystery and I hope you have a wonderful week. Bless 🙏🏽

@maryserrato1024 6 ай бұрын

Good morning BC it's horrifying how the mother could do that to her own daughter. That poor girl. As always a great story

@tuvia4082 6 ай бұрын

Thanks BC, as always, well done.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Very welcome

@user-cv2fx7pw2f 5 ай бұрын

Hi I'm Suzarra I was one of your first fans. My phone got smashed and I was trying to get all of my favorite channels back. I finally found you. I'm so happy. Thank you for your hard work. I have a bunch to catch up on. ❤❤❤❤❤❤

@lesleymacmillan8099 6 ай бұрын

What a beautiful wee girl. So sad what happened to her

@marionbowler5440 6 ай бұрын

Heart breaking all round. Thank you BC. 🇨🇦 ❤

@thejudgmentalcat 6 ай бұрын

Died at age 31? Sounds like justice came for her after all 😮 Thank you for brightening my gloomy Monday morning, BC ❤

@andrewbyrne2173 3 ай бұрын

Not really, life expectancy wasn’t that good then.

@ErinAbou 3 ай бұрын

@@andrewbyrne2173especially not in a crowded prison or asylum.

@seandelap8587 6 ай бұрын

Anyone that kills a child could be considered insane i mean its not exactly something you would expect someone in their right frame of mind to do

@ricklee5802official.1Rope_fan 6 ай бұрын

Gday BC, such a tragic case, why the mother murdered her own daughter is the 54 thousand dollar question. Its a crazy world that gets crazier everyday. Thank you for another well narrated case. I look forward to next weeks upload.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Rick

@kina18 6 ай бұрын

Greed, pride and stupidity. Couldn't even think of a story such as the girl was an orphaned distant relative she had taken in. Or just too cheap to finish raising her. Probably both.

@ReligiousReflections-pk2tz 3 ай бұрын

And here is the one million dollar question, she has no mental health issues. So it must be that she lied to her husband about having and he uncovered her deception.

@JosieJOK 3 ай бұрын

Strange that she didn’t actually put the child in service. Her husband must have known of the child’s existence if he was objecting to the expense. Putting her in service would have eliminated the expense and the necessity of raising the girl, leaving aside any modern sensibilities around child labor.

@PaleMagnolia 6 ай бұрын

I'm quite convinced Celestina Sommer did murder her daughter, but Rachel's story sounds so odd and unconvincing! According to her the whole murder was spelled out clearly by the victim and perpetrator like something out of a theatre piece or a penny dreadful. I believe Rachel did indeed witness the crime, or maybe part of it, but considering she was a very young girl herself, I think she felt the need to embellish the story for the court, thinking (like a tween probably would) that it would sound more believable if the people involved clearly stated "I am being murdered" and "I am murdering you".

@toscadonna 6 ай бұрын

My ex boyfriend’s brother was murdered in Colombia, and he was screaming out, “Help! They’re killing me!” People are surprisingly lucid in their last moments due to adrenaline pumping in their veins. I’m not surprised at all that the little girl knew what her mother was doing and that she defended herself with words; what else could she do? Plus, children were far better educated in speech back then and were expected to work like adults do.

@lazyhomebody1356 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, even in a Wilkie Collins novel I wouldn't believe that story for a minute!

@Adoozyofaday 6 ай бұрын

It’s interesting that she was so overwhelmed with grief during her trial when , if the maid is to be believed, she sounded so vicious toward the little girl as she cut her throat. I wonder if it had been her husband to kill the child if he would have been hung?

@Agapy8888 6 ай бұрын

Probably.

@C-Here 6 ай бұрын

Overcome by guilt imo...

@katherinethegreat 6 ай бұрын

Offtopic funfact:I'm 61,majored in English& just learned: "...people are not hung,such as may be your garments in a wardrobe;people are hanged by their neck until dead & may God have mercy on their soul."-some internet asshole who was mean to me!😂😅😊 American here-so,I just say "strung'em up" now!

@lovescoffee9780 6 ай бұрын

The time and effort you put into your stories equals excellent results.💯

@Adoozyofaday 6 ай бұрын

@@katherinethegreatoh, I didn’t know that. My mother was an English teacher, I’m such a disappointment to her😂

@deborahmitchell3299 6 ай бұрын

Good evening from Australia. I just finished work n have BC to relax to 😊

@serenitynow288 6 ай бұрын

Very sad story for the little girl and adoptive parents. Once again told very well Mr. Brief Case❤

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks :)

@Agapy8888 6 ай бұрын

Greetings crime fans and BC. A sad story. Find it unbelievable. What a monster.

@Screddy_Henks 5 ай бұрын

I love your work. I can't say how much you and the crime reel have helped me through a year of hell. Thanks again for all you do

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching the videos, I am very sorry your year was so bad and hope that 2024 is better for you, take care

@reneedennis2011 6 ай бұрын

What a horrible 😞 story! This has happened throughout history.

@Davidf8L 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your work and time ❤

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

You are so welcome

@meemurthelemur4811 6 ай бұрын

What a better way to wake up on a cold wintery Monday morning than with a nice warm story about murder and mayhem with Brief Case and fam! Keep warm, y'all!🥰🤗☃️❄⛄🥐☕🍫🥶😻

@Agapy8888 6 ай бұрын

Meemuria. Ditto. Scraping ice off my auto here in wintry NewYork. Have a great day. Cafe au lait anyone ?

@meemurthelemur4811 6 ай бұрын

@@Agapy8888 yes, please!☕☕☕☕☕

@teejay6063 6 ай бұрын

I love Mondays. Why? Brief Case.

@cesarincamendozaloyola4407 6 ай бұрын

Very tragic... And I find Celestina as monstruous as any other monster, regardless of the sexual genre.

@kina18 6 ай бұрын

Exactly. Even though she escaped the noose her life was shortened all the same.

@Agapy8888 6 ай бұрын

@@kina18 Justice done

@Frenchblue8 6 ай бұрын

What is "sexual genre"?

@jenniferlonnes7420 6 ай бұрын

That's what I wondered upon seeing this.@Frenchblue8

@Agapy8888 6 ай бұрын

@@Frenchblue8 Gives birth to humans. I am woman hear me roar.

@drmichaelshea 6 ай бұрын

Such a sad, sad case.

@esmeseyfried6394 6 ай бұрын

I think a lot of people are missing the point. The mother and husband was doing well it seems financially. But this was not enough to be in line with the upper society. Mother Celestina had an illegitimate child around, that would not be accepted in the higher circles

@Marcel_Audubon 5 ай бұрын

why is everyone dragging the husband into this? - he didn't even know the child existed ... just because the murderer said the husband wouldn't pay? you're take everything a murderer says at face value? she was trying to justify her own crime!

@nlwilson4892 5 ай бұрын

The child wasn't around. No-one knew about the child, that was the whole point of fostering her out. She could have easily got her a live-in job somewhere and said that she was the orphaned daughter of a distant cousin. No real way of checking in those days.

@deenagara9151 6 ай бұрын

Hello BC, I hate tragic cases that involve children!

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Hi Dee, Sorry :(

@kathrynbillinghurst188 6 ай бұрын

We all do! 💔🤜🤛

@williamegler8771 6 ай бұрын

Than don't watch them!

@LoveMyDaisyGirl911 6 ай бұрын

I was wondering what time BC would pop-up..... Just in time b4 work..... Gooood morning BC ❤❤😊

@kathrynbillinghurst188 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic Channel! 🤗💖👍

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much :)

@Eirinen_E34 5 ай бұрын

It is a brilliant channel! ❤

@kathrynbillinghurst188 5 ай бұрын

@@Eirinen_E34 🤗🤜🤛🏆💐👏🫶🤩

@ChildfreeMatto 5 ай бұрын

True, it's a fantastic channel. Brief Case, continually puts out interesting content.

@carolweeks8830 6 ай бұрын

As usual, your video and commentary are excellent. The visuals greatly help understand the story much more. Keep up the good work and thank you again.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thankyou so much, your comment is greatly appreciated!

@sophiaisabelle0227 6 ай бұрын

Brief Case is ready to launch. Seems like he has prepared everything in his *brief case.*

@joannethortan2257 6 ай бұрын

Good morning Brief Case.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Morning Joanne

@GreenTT-l1l 5 ай бұрын

Hey BC, love your channel, it’s so different from others because you cover stories that we’d never see anywhere else. Historical cases are so interesting. Thanks so much for taking the time to bring them to us. We appreciate ya. Much love from Texas ❤

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Thankyou, I appreciate that!

@yanira1402 6 ай бұрын

Poor little girl

@scottzehrung4829 6 ай бұрын

Love seeing your commitment to scheduled releases as well as timely replies and “likes”. Your professionalism is appreciated sir.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate that

@barbarajolley6578 6 ай бұрын

What a horrifying situation: Celestina (the mother) was a promising artist: talented and charismatic. It seems she was missing a loving heart for her child. What kind of person could do that? Perhaps she was insane, but we will never really know. Thank you, BC, for this riveting story.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Barbara

@barbarajolley6578 6 ай бұрын

@@BriefCaseOfficial You are very welcome:).

@user-mr1qy5un7p 5 ай бұрын

I really Enjoy "old" cases. You do such a PHENOMENAL job in Re-telling the Story. Thank You for All Your hard work, Research, and Dedication to The Channel.

@jordanh8906 6 ай бұрын

Good morning thank you for the video! ❤️❤️❤️

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Good morning!

@coxmosia1 6 ай бұрын

Who was Celestina's father? Was it consensual? I'm confused. Glad the mother paid for her crime. Because her husband didn't want to pay some child support? What terrible people. Good one BC, thanks.

@iseultbourke4692 6 ай бұрын

Obviously he had taken himself out of the picture many years before and was not contributing to the child's upkeep........whether it was consensual or not we probably will never know.....back in those days it would not play into the story at all, probably.

@Adoozyofaday 6 ай бұрын

Did she even know who the father was? So many questions. Her poor innocent child, so brutal 😢

@mitrovarr 6 ай бұрын

Assuming this wasn't the result of some mental disorder, my offhand guess would be that the child was the result of abuse by some adult in her life. That might explain why she had no attachment to the child whatsoever and was able to kill her.

@Marie.b 6 ай бұрын

I'm confused as to why you're confused! None of those questions matter at all to the story.

@coxmosia1 6 ай бұрын

@@Marie.b And I'm confused as to why you care about my confusion, as these are relevant questions for me and me alone. 29 likes, seems I'm in good company. 🤣

@maggiewoodward5858 6 ай бұрын

Good Evening Brief Case 🎉

@cheriestephenson5374 6 ай бұрын

Just wanted to say I absolutely love your videos and thank you for your hard work

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thankyou so much Cherie :)

@rosemaryfranzese317 6 ай бұрын

How did it come to this? A life full of promise goes on so dark a journey.

@user-qy4zh5vf3g 5 ай бұрын

IM SO GLAD I FOUND YOUR CHANNEL. YOUR VOICE IS BEAUTIFUL.I HANG ON EVERY WORD. WE. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FOR US. .SEND US MORE PLEASE.

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@ginadepippo1425 6 ай бұрын

Excellent visuals!..and story

@hollymorris785 6 ай бұрын

Riveting case today! Thanks for another great Brief Case!!

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Holly

@chesspiece81 6 ай бұрын

Awesome upload, BC. Have an awesome week, and thank you for the content.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, you too!

@_7.8.6 6 ай бұрын

You’re work is amazing

@peaceseeker52 6 ай бұрын

Other mother's fostered distant relatives children. I don't understand this at all. Did her husband force her?

@Marcel_Audubon 5 ай бұрын

stop blaming the husband, he didn't even know the kid existed - this is all on the mother

@garybrockwell2031 6 ай бұрын

The little ones bring a tear to ones eye? Did she do the deed? The day after Valentine's day😢 A sad world to be living in for sure?? Other people's judgements.... Died at 31... Poor children all of them...🆘🇬🇧💯💔

@audrahartman4212 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely fascinating and your delivery perfect! 👍👍

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly!

@alih429 5 ай бұрын

Another fascinating case. Wonderful narration. Thank you

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@johnkladis4266 6 ай бұрын

You do such great work!

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@elbaestridge6503 5 ай бұрын

Glad to find your channel , subscribed to. Amazing story, and keep bringing more. Thanks.

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@m.f.richardson1602 5 ай бұрын

Always interesting Thank you ❤

@Dingomush 6 ай бұрын

Another tear-jerker.. Such a terrible thing to happen to a child, and at the hand of her mother,no less. Great story though, Oddie!….

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks but not Oddie

@Dingomush 6 ай бұрын

@@BriefCaseOfficial LoL! I am so sorry about that, B.C.. My Bad!……

@ritawing1064 6 ай бұрын

Sending 10-year-olds out to service was common enough, why on earth didn't Celestina follow this custom?

@Marcel_Audubon 5 ай бұрын

she didn't want hubby to know she had an illegitimate child stored away

@hayleybarr3606 6 ай бұрын

Wow that was sad

@lazyhomebody1356 5 ай бұрын

Celestina Christmas and Celestina Sommer...in a book they would have led charmed lives.

@cindysmith6612 6 ай бұрын

Thank you ❤

@conemadam 5 ай бұрын

Another heartbreaking tale. Thank you for sharing it!

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for listening

@iggit2 6 ай бұрын

Woot!.. a new case. Thanks BC!

@jenniferlonnes7420 6 ай бұрын

Not out-of-bounds for a Cancer...it's quite in character. Celestina Christmas is a unique and beautiful name. Such a shame her life was extinguished.

@thegreencat9947 6 ай бұрын

Her name is so " Dickensian ".

@lazyhomebody1356 5 ай бұрын

Really? Are most murderers Cancers? Or are we bad mothers? My dog would tell you I'm a very good mom

@lazyhomebody1356 5 ай бұрын

Celestina Christmas was the murdering mother, not the innocent child

@jenniferlonnes7420 5 ай бұрын

@@lazyhomebody1356 Cancers are both of those.

@lazyhomebody1356 5 ай бұрын

@@jenniferlonnes7420 I assume you have a personal grudge? I won't speak for myself, but my grandfather and father were also Cancers and were wonderful! I personally have had many bad experiences with Scorpios. The Western horoscope is not the strongest indicator for personality- your Chinese year and name numerology affect you too

@lisamcallister8689 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the share 🙂

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@dianaantu8227 6 ай бұрын

another great story, thank you.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for listening

@lisageiger9841 6 ай бұрын

Another wonderful case. How sad. How could anyone want to hurt such a beautiful child? Thank you BC. I so love you. I hope your New year is going well.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Lisa, all good here

@carlysimmen1067 6 ай бұрын

Love this channel

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much

@dobbiessock1050 3 ай бұрын

Just found this channel, its very interesting, look forward to watching more.

@BriefCaseOfficial 3 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@amandanithavrianakis2996 5 ай бұрын

Just found you. What a find 😊. Great story , thanks .

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much

@kierraogden6771 6 ай бұрын

Ugh poor baby! As a mom as 2 young girls I can’t imagine! Rest in peace baby girl.

@jenniferryersejones9876 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, BC!

@susanfurlong2002 5 ай бұрын

Love your videos

@BriefCaseOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much Susan

@Mark-mu4pj 6 ай бұрын

Thanks great video BC.

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@MrsJHarrington 6 ай бұрын

BC such a sad tragedy. This poor child at the hands of a monster, a woman who gave birth to her own child, then took her life away from her, poor little girl, i pray she's resting in peace. I think if Mrs. Harrington had any idea little Celestina would have come to harm, she wouldn't have let her go with her mother. Mrs. Harrington looked like she could even be a distant relative of my late husband. Another good video BC even though it was sad. Have a good week BC!

@BriefCaseOfficial 6 ай бұрын

Hello, I did write on last weeks comment that this weeks case would have your namesake in it

@MrsJHarrington 6 ай бұрын

@@BriefCaseOfficial yes I remembered and I thank you for saying that, you are very kind, I told my brother and dad about it and they watched the video, my brother Shayne enjoys your channel too BC, my name is Shilo. I tell people about your channel, also because I know you care about other people BC. Take care!

@AllGoodOutside 6 ай бұрын

When I heard the witness testimony about what the young girl victim supposedly said before she was killed i wondered if that was actually what a 10 year old girl in the 19th century would say while she was being murdered, it's not funny at all of course however the Bizarre Choice of words!

@Marcel_Audubon 5 ай бұрын

those are the words as recollected by Helen Munt, the maid, so maybe not verbatim, but that's very close to what's in the court record ... what is left out is the foul language the mother shouted at the girl as she was choking to death on her own blood.

@AllGoodOutside 5 ай бұрын

@@Marcel_Audubon That's very interesting, thank you for the reply. Where were you able to read the original court transcripts?