why is people always saying that in every single FF review? it is not true and they nor even have similar powers, except for the elastic woman.

It's because of the premise of a superhero family. Pixar nailed it perfectly with The Incredibles.

areasevenpro I see, I thought it was bcs of the super-powers that are kind of similar, if strechted

"Strechted?" Was the pun intended?

***** is the thing a thing?

You'll play Human Torch in a big budget film, next thing you know, you're a recognized member of the MCU.

🙏👍🤣🤣🤣

@@bromodragone8405 Can't wait to see the next Human Torch be in the MCU! ...wait a minute

And then died.

@@SupermanCena goingvto be hard to beat Jordan.

What if they said her hair color changed due to the introduction of the energy? Like she started out with brown hair or something but due to her powers it started to turn a white to show off its powers or something?

Ben Burrell I agree, not only was the wig obvious and awful, it is completely unnecessary, especially since the movie jumps one year forward in time.

I think it was a belated attempt to make her look more like comics Sue Storm.

@@ian_b considering the way the movie takes itself wayyyy to seriously it still wouldn't save the final product with or without the wig, first of all why make the Fantastic four realistic? See any of their comics they are meant to be campy & corny they are meant to be enjoyed by everyone regardless of age why make them serious? Christopher Nolan when making Batman begins, did do research on Batman and found both his mission in life, his inner conflict & his villains and supporting charecters to be interesting and thought provoking and when he thought that something he did not knew about the charecter he brought someone who actually knows about the charecter more than him , The Dark knight while more realistic did take insperation from The Long Halloween comic story among other Batman story , he knew about the charecter and brought him to the big screen; this movie feels like they just saw the realistic aspect of The Dark knight and just made a movie based around it.

We know.

Fun fact: The guy playing Human Torch, Michael B Jordan, did the voice of Kilmonger on the What If series

Midnight Edge my friend. Watch their videos on this debacle.

Seen it bro. Dope stuff :)

Super Cosmic Mutant Honey Candle Squid Still, it would be interesting to see it in visual form (I.e. see it how it played instead of simply being told about it).

Cade Thumann They usually put 'making of' stuff on the DVD/Blu-Ray. Don't tell me that was missing as well.

Definitely

Just made my day

Disney: "I'm listening."

Marvel Studios : “Fine….i’ll do it My Way”

Nathaniel Levesque Did Creed come after F4nt45t1c?

Addison Bortion yes

Nathaniel Levesque Now he's in Black Panther.

Nathaniel Levesque Good, that means he still has a career.

I honestly wonder why he chose this vs Straight Outta Compton. Maybe it was the whole "franchise" premise that convinced him? MBJ came out the most unscathed by this movie in my opinion. The other actors I don't think were hurt much but Jordan was at least cast in Black Panther and had the positive backing of Creed. If his name is ever brought up now, F4 is rarely mentioned at all. When he came out on stage with the Black Panther cast at SDCC I actually forgot he was in F4.

As well as having Superman KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

Crash test doomy

+ Neil Price YES! YES! THANK YOU! SOMEONE ELSE WHO KNEW ABOUT THE ULTIMATE TIE IN! THANK YOU!

Um...what?😅

2wingo and that line is terribly unoriginal. Yes it's from Screen Junkies but it's still cringeworthy after the nth time.

It's not from screen junkies, critics were calling Incredibles the best F4 movie we probably will see when it first came out.

The best Fantastic Four version was on The Venture Brothers. Elastic Man is an egomaniac voiced by Stephen Colbert. The Human Torch bursts into flames screaming in pain. Invisible girl only makes her skin vanish so you can see her muscles. And The Thing is a mentally challenged rock creature.

oooooh

God i wish.

That’s a lot better than the origin in this movie.

Huh, that makes the phrase kind of heartwarming

Ouch.

Stan said they didn't contact him actually

Billy Barnett In all honesty, that's even better.

45darkrai Yeah, but if I was him I think I'd be a little insulted.

@@billybarnett9518 I mean hes not in every marvel movie

@@conradlorgar5508 This is true, but I read it was because he had schedule conflicts for some of them. The fact that they didn't even contact him is a bit insulting.

It's also saying a lot

I still don't exactly GET the complaining about the "Clobbin' Time" thing. Imo it was interesting,like I've stated once in a general comment,I felt it was Ben taking something that use to be a signal of pain and suffering and making it his own. It could've been expanded on more,yes,but it,by itself,isn't all that bad I think.

If the movie had a slightly more fun tone, the clobbering time line origin could have been something Ben said when he's trying to help with apples for a pie and decides to bash them comedically. At least my idea sounds less groan worthy than the abuse idea they went with.

Alan Cumming and Jim Cummings are both amazing actors, though. That overshadows the name.

There are over 100 million people in india with the last name Dikshit.

Thomasmemoryscentral so you don’t like it when movies tackle real issues people have

as a graphic designer and film enthusiast(and amateur photographer) I can tell you that the movie uses the low key to have a "somber" and "realistic" theme to the movie...at least it attempts to have them...it's also obvious by how the plot makes the main character miserable or something like that (even if in real life they are just egoistic fu*ks)... this also mix the usual "blue-orange" color grading (pretty much the only color grading in use at hollywood...), giving everything "lotta" blue tones and few orange tones, that actually kinda feels out of place now and do not give the supposed "warm and likable" response... the fun part is that the low-light was all post-production of shots NOT really ment, probably, for a Low key take. I think that because every setting never use contrast between light and dark, so they ARE normally lit, but they just lowered the brightness of the scene in post... Light is the paintbrush of photography, and this movie fails hard at using it...

Ah, thank you for popping in to help me out! And for using better wording than I ever could XD Theater is so much different than film, but I do agree with your lovely quote of light being a paintbrush to photography. Still, they didn't need to make the entire mood of the film somber, dramatic, and realistic to begin with. It's the Fantastic Four! How does a multi-million production team screw up so badly? Then again, they did give the poor actress a cheap wig, so I guess I just answered my own question.

HanaBakemono lights can make or break a scene in photography, cinema and, I bevile, in your area of expertise: theater. about the production of the movie I can even make some hypothesis: as of now, thanks to some huge "seller", movies are really conceived as "products". not narrative. the problem is that not all directors are able to just do "wage-work"...and when you put in different ideology clashing between eachother you have the recipe of a shitty product. the "seriousness" attitude of this movie is just that. clashing of different ideology, production and market trends... it could be that the director wanted to make an "adult" story about comic books heroes (showing his childishness), because he is supposed to be "visionary" or something (like Snyder...). or it could be that they just decided that in a "creative sterile environment" after a inquiry showed that 58% of a random group of people answered in the Focus Group wanted a "serious movie"... as someone who studied advertisement, I can tell you that Focus Groups and Market Research on "active" consumers, easily produce alienated and distorted results... the example of the focus group on the question: "would you want a serious superhero movie or a fun superhero movie" the subject of the inquiry can very well answer completely differently that what he actually thinks. especially on a socially "embarrassing" question like that. answering, in a group of people, that he would like a fun superhero movie can make him be afraid of being perceived as "childish" or "not serious" person. of course producers ignore this, and just shove those statistic into production with a zealot faith in them. failing hard many times...like in Fant4stick. on the wig: I guess they just stopped caring and wanted something, possibly "more decent" than what they had, to release...

I kinda actually like how this movie's shot. I'm an amateur filmmaker myself, and I tend to shoot using a muted color palette on the cooler side of the spectrum, lot of high contrast and grays.

Sting SniperScope but the problem is not really the theme of the shot, is that they took normal sets and then forced a color palette on it, or at least this is what it seems. even if in my photography I tend to have preference on bright colors, I too appreciate darker and more contrasted shots. but this movie didn't really used the palette well...

That doesnt translate well to live action you basically just combine half the avengers and you get doom The intelligence, armour and ego of ironman The skills of cap The magic of dr strange And a sprinkle of black Panthers kingdom and you get doom That's alot for one character to have

Reed Richards is smarter than Doom

@@elmermedina1713 that’s basically Doom, he’s second best at everything, making him incredibly strong, almost as intelligent as Reed, almost as good a sorcerer as Strange, an armour almost as good as Stark, physically strong enough to kill a lion barehanded. On any aspect there’s always someone better than him, but none of them are good at everything he does very well.

There is one thing he's best at, that being will power. He's the only human that can handle the Infinity Guantlet due to that, as well as letting him do things like remain in full control while infected with the zombie virus or resisting the Purple Man's mind control at its strongest. But yeah, the biggest problem with the Dooms we get in the last three movies is that he's always more akin to the Ultimates version, and the Ultimates universe, other than its Spidey, is pure garbage. They need to quit tying his creation to that the Fantastic 4, and give us the actual Doctor Doom. Really, they should have starting building toward Doom after the end of the Infinity Gauntlet bit, making Doomwar, the conflict between Wakanda and Latveria as the next big thing. But alas, Chadwick Boseman died and the MCU seems to be floundering around at the moment, without a clear direction.

Hollywood execs are the embodiment of evil.

All you people do is focus on RACE!🤦‍♀️ ANYONE can be irresponsible! So shut up!

@@gracekim25 Make me shut up, you fucking hack.

When I heard they had made a character black, I instantly assumed it had to be Reed Richards. And I thought that was really clever. Usurp the racial stereotypes by making him the smart, clever, resourceful leader rather than the hothead. When someone told me it was Johnny, I was like "wait hang on, he has a sister, I've not heard anything about her race changing" And that's when I discovered that they'd basically gone "OK well obviously the irresponsible hot headed idiot is the only one who could be black, so we'll just make his sister adopted" It's so blatantly racist.

Ryan Robotham That’s way too appropriate

So to the British,he's "President Fart"?... Same with us!!

Ryan Robotham like trumpet?

"And in England, "Trump" is another word for "fart." Puts a lot in perspective doesn't it?" Yeah, actually. Do the English think Trumpets sound like farts? ... Oh come on. You know one of them over there had that thought.

And Dooku means 'from the anus' in portugese

I say give them a direct villain

Billy Barnett Well that's fine for someone to be behind it but I'm saying have them go to do some scientific exploration of some strange new thing and then it won't matter whether someone was behind it but just give them some adventure to go on that utilizes each of them as a team.

MichaelAarons1701 Do the Mole Man, he had an underground kingdom in New York.

Billy Barnett That would make for a good story for them to go underground and be confronted with all sorts of weird encounters and perils assuming the alien planet plot wasn't used (at least in the first go anyway).

Wow, this really is the most dysfunctional super hero team ever. They're supposed to be a team....yet they do jack and shit together.

that the way I was remembering it too. Not to mention at the time (and still happening) both in comic and in movie they were gender/race swapping just to please the dirt sheets constantly. Not to mention changing a character sexual preference just cause instead of creating likeable new character. This cause many to grind the teeth whenever it happen. Now saying that. There been good story with actors and characters that been swap but the constant readjusting just don't sit well with the community that enjoy those characters for Decades!. Now comics are down and people moving to manga cause of it and we will see if that also play out in film. With that being said and not having watch this version but having watch trank work in chronicle which I like and seeing some of the review which say the first half was actually good. I am willing to give trank the benefit of the doubt about his decision and I would had like to had a black storm if they were going to gender swap

Now you know it’s easier to explain everything with,” muh Racism”

@@kingblackheart919 oh I know there some racism involve but to blanket the entire complain on just that is stupid as it just mean your not paying attention to the actual point. It like saying the reason not watching the ghostbuster movie cause it an all women cast. It had nothing to do with all women. It has to do with the humor was terrible, nothing felt original or memorable as far humor went.

Marveryn i agree i was just drawing attention to the fact that some people’s go to is “that’s racist” straight out of the gate with no other options considered

Lynell Batemon not only is it just easier, he was looking fir an easy, if cheap, shot on Trump...like everyone

Uh, yeah, the n64 IS a computer.

@@jeremyjohnson8844 There's a difference between "can do computer-like things" and "is literally a reskinned, repurposed Windows comp".

Computer like things? It is a computer. It doesn't run windows, but it is a computer. Period.

I'm with Jeremy Johnson here. It's a specialized computer, but computer nonetheless. And if you have a shitload of those, making a cluster would make sense. Also, XBox is NOT just a "reskinned Windows comp" whatever that means. I did some development fot the XBox back in the day, and I remember it having some very specialized features.

In my head, I keep remembering Fant4stic as a _Sony_ film... ... probably because Sony haven't made a great track record for themselves.

Tasty Loaf ask and ye shall receive

Consider it DONE. Disney announced a new Fantastic Four movie as early as last year's D23.........for sometime in 2022.

@@tastyloaf5487 This was the last film greenlit by former Fox chairman Tom Rothman before he moved to Sony. So there is a connection, however tenuous. Rothman then greenlit The Emoji Movie there.

If they made Sue Black, that would have been awesome but of course, someone would have to argue why it's offensive and yada yada yada.

Super Cosmic Mutant Honey Candle Squid That would have been awesome to see. But, like MJ, they'd miss her "iconic look" more than they'd care about her actual performance, if the whole Zendaya debacle is any indication.

Daezy Gilder Someone said it in an earlier comment that people would try to make the idea of a Black Sue into racism by having her date a White dude because it would apparently be a woman going out with an 'oppressor'. So I can guess that if MJ were Black and Peter were still White, they'd scream the same thing. Whoops. Never mind the fact we never hear this type of outrage whenever it's a Black man going out with a White chick or a Black man going out with ANYONE else. But when its a Black chick, it's suddenly a 'problem', but it's problems that people don't seem to bat an eye at when they apply the same logic on something else. After all, everyone is asking for diversity but I guess there is still some 'wrong' diversity ie, stuff the actual racist who pretend they aren't racist don't want to see.

Super Cosmic Mutant Honey Candle Squid Oh, believe me - I know of that. There's a very vocal minority of black people (and white people) who view a black woman dating a white man as wrong, but not the other way around. I guess it's because a black man dating a white woman is him "showing freedom and disolving racial tension", or some BS. The whole thing screams of hyocrisy if you ask me. However, the biggest argument that I've heard against black women playing white characters is that "it erases their iconic look!" Hence, my comment. I'm well aware that it swings both ways.

Daezy Gilder In most cases like that, when the movie proves good and the actor shows they can carry the role (including working with the iconic look) it usually shuts a lot of people up. Things like Fury proved this (thought he is also Ultimate Fury but for general movie-going crowd he is the main Fury now and the only Fury they are familiar with). I've just noticed that when the movies are shit and the people behind the movie are shit they ALWAYS, ALWAYS jump behind the race of their actors as a shield to protect them from, often well deserved, call outs for their lack of tact and professionalism.

I think the 60's would be a more appropriate setting

maxacorn Intriguing, but who's Dr. Doom?

The Honorable Reverend Addison Bortion I think that Victor Von Doom would probably be that quiet,smug and/or moody AND very nerdy exchange student (that recently-moved into the country and is smilingly attending the same school as Teenaged!Reed Richards and the rest of the apparent younger-versions of the fantastic four themselves,exactly-as follows here..apparently..) whom meets and grows to like Reed as a friend to him,only for Reed to find out he's one one of those rich A-hole kids who would use him for his nerdiness/smarts and/or intelligence for his own personal gain much,much later-leading to Reed and the rest of the fantastic four/gang of his trying to stop him from terrorizing (and taking over) the schoolyard/the city in the process to which they could/would succeed,yet let him run-off and try to get him next time,as it follows apparently..again-so,yeah.. Eh..?!

Everyone and their grandma has reviewed that movie. I'd rather he'd bring more attention to how bad Lady in the Water is, instead. Especially since Doug Walker didn't bring up the arrogance M Night brought to that movie that caused him to burn bridges with Disney at the time.

Apparently there are die hard Shymalan fans. So much so that they insult anyone who says many of his movie are pieces of garbage. For example, some pretentious clown said that I and anyone who else liked Deadpool is stupid and that the Last Airbender is a work of artistic genius that the simple mined would never understand.

Spoilers: it’s Lady in the Water.

Regardless on casting choices, the movies themselves completely suck.

Um ok😅

did your dumb ass just compare a nationality to a race as if its the same thing??? LMAO!

ShelltoonTV1 Thankfully Creed came.

Thank goodness MCU saved him by casting him in the upcoming Black Panther movie.

evawms123 He be goin places, son. Don't need no fant4stic bullshit.

Yes, I'm glad to see that Michael B. Jordan is still getting respectable roles. This is one that I'm sure everybody has agreed to pretend never happened.

ShelltoonTV1 so true

♔The_HolyCookie♔ Hey me too!

And a somewhat delayed third.

Why not just put up a stack of peel off plastic signs? People can take one and go.

@@marccolten9801 Because you know someone would grab the whole stack.

@@Happymali10 Even with a carefully worded. sign asking them politely to take one and leave the rest for others. 😍

@@marccolten9801 The average human would take the sign.

@@marccolten9801 Update, they had the town officially renamed to "Fugging" and changed all the signs accordingly.

I love Sean, too, but I wish he wouldn't insult members of his audience just for voting for someone he didn't like. It's just not cool.

@@tastyloaf5487 and stop nitpicking

Happy birthday to you and happy All Saints Day!

foreshadowing for fox's movie

Or if not in the MCU, he would work better as a final film villain or even an X Men crossover, which we totally won't get now,

Billy Barnett agreed. what do you mean by final film? just curious.

Nathan B.​​ Like the final film of the franchise. Like for example, first Mole Man, then Annihilus and Blastaar, and then Doctor Doom. Also they should be like the MCU films in tone and set in the 60's.

They also have the rights to Kang The Conquer I just read, he would be good for an X Men and Fantastic 4 crossover too.

jerrymouse 62 I didn't know that! Now the being in the Simpsons (current) is sounding like being in Star Wars episodes 4-7

Thanks for the recommend!

EYTPS Really?

*D'oh!*

Better yet, what was Fox's obsessions with making action movies?

It was cold, calculated pandering, but god forbid you dare to point it out. If you do, and question what kind of narrative role changing a characters' skin color/gender serves, you are automatically lumped in with the crazies and dismissed on the spot as a racist/misogynist/etc.

Terry Crews wanted to play Ben, even though he's black, I think he could have done a good job.

Gábor Horváth And that shit is why I HATE tumblr.

This is my issue. If they turned him Mexican, I'd just be like "So as a Mexican, I should like this?".

HAHAHAH! Sorry, I just got the image of him with those kids and suddenly the movie got a lot funnier.

0% percent!!!!!

ReNikulous Filmz Is the TV show better?

Thunder Goku yeah it's better then the garbage movie

He probably won't review the movie until it comes out on dvd.

jerrymouse 62 I said for a future episode, not the next one Plus he will need therapy after watching it and after the therapy after watching Shyamalan movies. It can be episode 100 for all I care

no, that's whitewashed garbage.

I've heard some pretty good reviews about the movie, and the quality of the movie was by no means dampened by it's "whitewashing" of ONE character.

Wajj it not really whitewashing if it's just one character, if that were true, then this movie is blackwashing Is that a thing? I'm gonna make it a thing.

ricard modo Here's the difference - there's history behind it. Hell, white actirs are being cast as black heros (like a man who died saving people during 9/11) even today. Is it so hard to cast a POC? No. Plus, there's hardly enough superheroes who are POC as it is. In contrast, there are literally *thousands* of whte ones. Casting a black guy as Nick Fury isn't going to hurt anyone. Casting a white guy as Black Panther, a superhero whose *entire identity revovles around his blackness*, is a slap in the face to the creator of the original comics and black people.

Daezy Gilder it's like making Dr. Strange not a doctor, or making Captain America British, or making Spider-Man into a six year old. There are somethings you don't change.