Diesel Heater Controller Swap - Black style to blue LCD controller

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berko79

berko79

Күн бұрын

In this video I swap over my black diesel heater controller for a newer style blue controller. I'll run you through how to take the settings from the cold controller and how to change the new controller to match.
You can purchase your own controller to upgrade here: amzn.to/2OKqHfd

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@garyreed354
@garyreed354 2 жыл бұрын
My blue one is 9009 for the advanced menu so on case any one wants to know
@berko79
@berko79 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! yeah i saw recently there is some with this code.
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 2 жыл бұрын
@@berko79 your welcome
@oojimmyflip
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
Thanks that wiull help heaps.
@jongeorge1102
@jongeorge1102 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video it was a great help, i had trouble using the remote you helped. Now, it works Thanks again Jonno
@gsxr419
@gsxr419 2 жыл бұрын
So when you turn the unit off and you leave it hooked up to it's power source, does the lcd turn off until you hit the remote to start it even a few days later?
@jcakes8528
@jcakes8528 3 жыл бұрын
What colour motherboard does your heater have? Black or blue?
@MrMarkAMartin
@MrMarkAMartin 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you saved me much time!
@berko79
@berko79 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@timabsent5262
@timabsent5262 3 жыл бұрын
Alright, Any idea if the blue is the same as the red and gold controller. All similar buttons and shown together in pics. Like the gold version with up/down buttons.
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 3 жыл бұрын
The blue one is different than Fades on its own after a minute and it only lights up right when you change the settings
@andrewrice4513
@andrewrice4513 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent info! What about the other end of the cable? How do you know its compatible with your existing unit?
@berko79
@berko79 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt know 100% when i bought it but the plug on the advert looked the same as mine. I think if the plug is correct they should be OK. I know there are a couple of different styles of plugs though.
@oojimmyflip
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
@@berko79 Im hoping its the same coloured wires, never mind the plug style cut that off and just follow the colours of the wires. and pray.
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 3 жыл бұрын
The screen on this one goes to a softer screen after about a minute probably will keep it from fading only when you touch the blue unit itself it gets bright. .when you use the fob it doesn't change the brightness of the screen
@berko79
@berko79 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I did notice that it auto dims itself, if it means saving the screen from fading it would be great.
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 3 жыл бұрын
@@berko79 ya lets hope so
@hannesdeburchgraeve6886
@hannesdeburchgraeve6886 2 жыл бұрын
if you use the temp control where is the temp node located, in the node or in the remote control?
@berko79
@berko79 2 жыл бұрын
The sensor is in the heater and i'm not too sure how accurate it is. Seems to be a bit hit and miss on the actual temperature. I end up raising it or lowering it to a comfortable temp.
@Droneviews24
@Droneviews24 Жыл бұрын
Do you think I could replace my blue controller with a different type with control knob. My controller is faulty. And is the kW of the heater related to the controller or does each controller fit any size heater. Thanks
@berko79
@berko79 Жыл бұрын
Yes, i'm pretty confident this would work. The main thing I would say is make sure the plug to the controller is the same. I don't believe the size of the heater will matter at all, you can change the settings if required. And if its setup correct now it should remain setup on the new controller.
@oojimmyflip
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
ive noticed that even if the lower Hz seting is 1.2 on the blue lcd controller it is not possible to go below 1.7Hz on the remote or controller once the heater is running.
@mikko3693
@mikko3693 Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@aust4105
@aust4105 Жыл бұрын
If I'm switching from a rotary controller to and LCD, do I need a new motherboard? I am confused about this. I want more options the LCD provides.
@berko79
@berko79 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so, I've actually bought a rotary one and I'll be doing a vid on swapping that over pretty soon!
@shaundolphin
@shaundolphin Жыл бұрын
What is the actual advantage ( If any ) of changing controllers other than the screen fade ?
@berko79
@berko79 Жыл бұрын
The remote is better on the blue controller, but other than that they are very similar. The timers do work slightly differently between the two. I find i never use the timers personally but I know some people do.
@oojimmyflip
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
@@berko79 I have two heaters one with a black lcd and one with a blue lcd and the blue one is so much more responsive and easier to set up, I think once you use a blue one you will never go back and the little bonus of ambient temperature and core temperature of the heater itself on the remote control is also a bonus.
@luapynneb3069
@luapynneb3069 Жыл бұрын
Will the newer red lcd type fob, work with your older black controller ?
@berko79
@berko79 Жыл бұрын
No it doesn't if you want that one you will have to upgrade the screen too. Happy to be corrected if anyone has worked out how to do it but I'm pretty sure it's not possible.
@euphoroian
@euphoroian 3 жыл бұрын
Can you connect the red remote the to the black controller?
@berko79
@berko79 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if it is the same for all black controllers, but for mine it did not work.
@mattsmith2051
@mattsmith2051 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have to change the motherboard? My controller is same as your in look but does not have the additional functions.
@berko79
@berko79 2 жыл бұрын
No for mine i did not have to change the motherboard. What i have heard is there is another more basic controller which is different but looks very similar. It has 3 fan blades on the fan icon in the LED and for that one you do need a motherboard change.
@mattsmith2051
@mattsmith2051 2 жыл бұрын
@@berko79 thank you that sounds like my controller.
@kan815k
@kan815k 5 ай бұрын
Can you insert setting separately? When heater is lower Hz and higher fan speed or higher Hz and lower fan speed?
@berko79
@berko79 5 ай бұрын
You can't change this when in use. These 2 parameters are tied together. The fan speed is also used for air delivery into the combustion chamber so it has to match the pump pulses to ensure a clean burn
@kan815k
@kan815k 5 ай бұрын
@berko79 if that is true, that's the answer was looking for.
@lionelp1944
@lionelp1944 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2 KW heater. All the videos seemed to be talking with the 5 or 8 kilowatt. I am wondering if the settings are the same for the to kilowatt. If you have this information or where I can find it please direct me to it
@berko79
@berko79 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have any 2kw heaters however I've copied the settings from someone in one of the Facebook groups. Saying that there are some variables involved like the pump size and glow plug wattage. Settings quoted were 1.0 3.0 2050 4300 12v 1 5
@aliasgaramirali323
@aliasgaramirali323 Жыл бұрын
Did you figure it out?
@davehagan720
@davehagan720 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I just went to swap mine as you have done however when I swapped them over I got an error code e07. All cables are in the correct orientations. Battery is full and being charged. Any advice would be appreciated. Dave.
@berko79
@berko79 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm E-07 would point towards an incompatibility between the controller and the main board in the heater. Was your original controller the one with the 3 blades on the fan and the very limited controlling option?
@davehagan720
@davehagan720 3 жыл бұрын
Hi yes it is. Do you think it matters.
@berko79
@berko79 3 жыл бұрын
I do know its a different controller and possibly mainboard which might be your issue?... unfortunately i've had no experience with this type of controller
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 3 жыл бұрын
No fuil prime it
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 2 жыл бұрын
Go into advanced settings an scroll through it. it my reset mine did the same thing some settings were off I reset them and it may became good
@tucoremirez4859
@tucoremirez4859 3 жыл бұрын
Did the blue wire connector match the black wire connector ????
@berko79
@berko79 3 жыл бұрын
yeah they both matched - plugged in with no modifications
@tucoremirez4859
@tucoremirez4859 3 жыл бұрын
Strange.........i bought the blue to replace the black one, but blue one has a different connector 🤔🤔🤔
@berko79
@berko79 3 жыл бұрын
Is your black controller the triangle with 3 wires? I know there are heaps of different types of black controllers now but i dont know too much about how they are wired.
@tucoremirez4859
@tucoremirez4859 3 жыл бұрын
@@berko79 yes triangle connector on black controller
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 2 жыл бұрын
This one doesn't fade I oto dims
@richwhite8592
@richwhite8592 Жыл бұрын
Hi there mate. I have the black controller, but can’t get HFA up on my screen, can you help me please?
@berko79
@berko79 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there are two types of black controllers so i'm wondering if yours might be the other one. If it has 3 blades on the fan icon it is different. Saying that they often come paired already if they come with a remote - I assume you have tried it to make sure it isnt already paired? Otherwise i'm not sure other than holding the up button for 5 seconds.
@richwhite8592
@richwhite8592 Жыл бұрын
@@berko79 no it doesn’t have three blades. It’s 5/7. This looks like the exact same as my old remote which I had to pair when I originally got my heater. I’m baffled
@TheBioniXman
@TheBioniXman Жыл бұрын
Why would I change my black one?
@berko79
@berko79 Жыл бұрын
Id only change it if the screen was faded, it was playing up or you wanted the feature rich remote. Otherwise not really much to gain!
@carldespain9105
@carldespain9105 Жыл бұрын
I have a blue one how do you no what code to put in i just got it
@carldespain9105
@carldespain9105 Жыл бұрын
I have a 8k
@berko79
@berko79 Жыл бұрын
Did you try 1688? The one in the video? Also someone else commented on this vid that they had to use 9009. Hopefully one of these two works for you.
@FromMetayou
@FromMetayou 2 жыл бұрын
Any ideas why my remote won't pair , they the same as yours
@berko79
@berko79 2 жыл бұрын
when you push power and OK does it come up connecting on your remote? Did you see if it worked without having to pair?
@FromMetayou
@FromMetayou 2 жыл бұрын
@@berko79 comes up with for pairing in orange writing but actually won't pair says plz wait
@FromMetayou
@FromMetayou 2 жыл бұрын
@@berko79 the controller works fine but remote won't pair and they came in same package
@berko79
@berko79 2 жыл бұрын
hmm that's odd almost like they are not compatible. Sorry I didn't have that issue but maybe someone else will help out here.
@FromMetayou
@FromMetayou 2 жыл бұрын
@@berko79 nagh matey it wasn't paired and yes It says for pairing but didn't
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 Жыл бұрын
The black one has been replaced in late 2022 by another black one which looks almost identical, with fewer functions. No hidden menu tuning. The old one has an antenna signal display. The new one doesn't.
@AndrewHemstreet
@AndrewHemstreet Жыл бұрын
The manual calls it the parking heater control, holding "ok" and power at the same time you get 3 digit code screen, seems the only way to leave the screen is the gear "settings" key long press but can't seem able to unlock anything
@AD-oe5di
@AD-oe5di Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewHemstreet Got that one too...and not been able to unlock neither. Tried some random figures but no luck.
@winandd8649
@winandd8649 2 жыл бұрын
The temperature setting is NOT a thermostat function! It's another way to display 1.5 Hz to 5Hz.. Weird (stupid even) but true. Also, the black controller had a timer function which let you turn on the heater at a certain time, say 9 am. With the new controller (at least mine) it's replaced by a pretty useless delay function letting you set an delayed start by x minutes or something. Note that i have a slightly different controller with the up/down buttons on the right side. The colour of my controller is gold, you mostly see this controller in red. The remote i have is exactly the same
@rangerdoc1029
@rangerdoc1029 Жыл бұрын
On mine it actually functions as a thermostat. It will drop to 1.0hz when temp is exceeded & go up when below. It will NOT cycle on & off. Only low & hi.
@winandd8649
@winandd8649 Жыл бұрын
@@rangerdoc1029 Alright. so maybe you hve a new upgraded one..
@oojimmyflip
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
@@winandd8649 the blue screen and lcd remote allows you to set degrees C or hertz you can set the degrees C or automatic mode and the heater will chase that temperature and then almost just shut down with the fan ticking over very slowley until the degrees C drop and then it will fire back up again automatically chasing the temperature you have set, or you can set it to Hz mode/manual mode and just have it ticking over at the pump speed you have set which is a little more economical to run than degrees mode or automatic mode , to change between manual or automatic modes press the up and down buttons together. of courzse none of these functions will work unless you have the lcd screen in the room you are heating, I have extended mine by 5 meters using standard 13amp extension lead wire and it works very well. my heater is mounted on an outside wall of the house with the fuel tank in my back garden (wall mounted) and the wiring and fuel line is in 2.5 inch plastic conduit. the pump is about 6 inches from the heater, the nylon fuel line is about 10ft long.
@rangerdoc1029
@rangerdoc1029 Жыл бұрын
Other than the remote, the two controllers appear a identical.
@berko79
@berko79 Жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct, the controllers are very similar. I guess that is due to the fact that the controller board (inside the heater) is still the same. The timers work slightly differently too, both not how i'd expect. But yeah i guess this "swap" is more for people who have had excessive screen fade or issues with their controller.
@gabrielsansar6187
@gabrielsansar6187 Жыл бұрын
amazing no one ever shows the plugs.. which there are diff types of
@berko79
@berko79 Жыл бұрын
yeah, thats the best way to work out the compatibility. I'm pretty sure if it the plug is correct it should work. Saying that I havent had enough of the heaters to know for sure and they do seem to keep producing variants of the controllers.
@oojimmyflip
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
@@berko79 all the heaters seem to have a black wire and a blue wire and a red wire it is just the plugs that change, I have a hunch that being as the balck wire goes to the black wire on the heater and each corresponding coloured wire goes to its corresponding coloured wire on the heater the controllers should all be fairly compatable reguardless of plug type. I am about to try this out soon.
@phuquetwo
@phuquetwo 2 жыл бұрын
What's the point in this? Is one better?
@berko79
@berko79 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I could have done a better job of explaining that. The black controllers slowly fade if left on all the time until you cant see what you are doing. So lots of people want to replace those. The blue controller is a bit smarter (knows altitude) and has a slightly different way of the timer working. The remote is also a bit better allowing more adjustment and also displaying ambient temperature.
@phuquetwo
@phuquetwo 2 жыл бұрын
@@berko79 I just bought one with the blue screen and lcd controller
@johnkennedy486
@johnkennedy486 2 жыл бұрын
@@berko79 It knows the altitude? That would be a great feature. I camp in the Snowy Mountains each winter and due to the altitude I should adjust the fuel-to-air ratio due to the higher altitude (about 1450m in my fave camp) but I can't be bothered and add a 10% kero mix to overcome sooting issues. Given I'm on my third, faded black controller, I might give the blue one a lash.
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to match it up it'll match up through your plug it in
@mega-hb4re
@mega-hb4re 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I find the black controller easier to use than the blue one.
@oojimmyflip
@oojimmyflip Жыл бұрын
well your lucky you got one that works, I got ripped off with a crap one and I have a blue controller on my 2kw heater so im buying another blue controller to replace the black piece of crap they sent me with the 5kw heater. The LCD screen on the remote control does make life easier, once you have tried it youll never go back, ambient temperature and Hz or Degrees C are also displayed on the remote LCD screen. you can use the LCD remote as far away as 30 meters and the batteries are cheaper than the old remote batteries it uses AAA cells.
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