Donald Trump and Narcissism: Disorder or Politics as Usual?

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7 жыл бұрын

The Mental Health Controversy Over Donald Trump that's Dividing the Country--and How to Fix it
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"Dr. Leslie Carr interviews Dr. Craig Malkin, a licensed clinical psychologist and author of the book Rethinking Narcissism: The Secret to Recognizing and Coping with Narcissists. They talk about the different kinds of narcissism and whether they could possibly apply to Donald Trump, the difficulty of diagnosing a person you haven't directly treated (and why mental health professionals aren't supposed to do it), the connection between "fake news" and authoritarian leadership, how to heal the "split" in the American electorate, and much more." --Dr. Leslie Carr lesliecarr.com
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@sweetpealee056 Жыл бұрын

I'm viewing this 6 years later and after listening to Dr. Bandy X Lee on the social disorders which are manifesting even more since the Trump presidency and would love to see the both of you revisit this topic today. I am heartened that there are still people who aren't buying into the cognitive dissonance and actually speaking out on the mental health aspects of all this. I for one feel like I'm in a perpetual state of grief and sadness over the division, hatred and violence we're suffering today. 😥

@WorldReserveCurrency 2 жыл бұрын

I have a mother, brother, and an uncle that would be considered NPD and Malignant NPD. When I finally got a good view of Trump outside of his tv show and in political life. It became clear to me that he was most like my uncle who is an extreme NPD with strong psychopathic qualities. But unfortunately, if people have no experience with NPDs in their intimate circle it just sounds like some quaint adjective.

@nikkic83 4 жыл бұрын

Wonder how this discussion would play out today ( 2020 )

@1414141x 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I wonder if Craig would still be hesitant about diagnosing Trump now ? His handling (or lack of) of the pandemic has cost many more American people their lives than was necessary. Trump hardly mentions the pandemic in his appearances - he is in denial about it because it conflicts with his vision of where America should be. Sadly for Americans they have a malignant narcissist as their president at the worse time they could have one. Also what I find very disturbing is that Trumps support does not seem to be falling dramatically. Even though die hard Republicans must realise that Trumps attitude towards the pandemic is going to cost many more thousands of American people their lives, they still seem determined to have him re-elected

@SolidSiren 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly the same, only with more evidence of his NPD? Experts and everyone who's familiar with them recognized him as a pwNPD before he was even elected. It was so obvious, especially where there was already hundreds of hours of his behavior and statements on video for the public, and countless statements for magazines, papers, etc.

@clennine 3 жыл бұрын

It played out to a Tee.. !! It’s crazy

@deborahlincoln-strange622 3 жыл бұрын

After January 6th, I think it's very clear now.

@LinYouToo 7 жыл бұрын

Really good discussion. Very articulate explanation of complex ideas, made easy-to-understand. I've been studying/reading more on these topics and it really makes you really wonder about the world at large, how global populations of people behave, etc. let alone individuals we all come in contact with. Is it possible for an entire political party to become "narcissistic," or even an entire country? A lot of great info here. The hot potato example is a really good one. When I think about people who do that, I think about terms I'll call the big "D's": defend, deflect, deny, dismiss, diminish, even demean. It's amazing how much more you notice these things, or tendencies in ourselves if we act/speak too quickly. By the way, loved your book.

@CraigMalkin 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much-- for both your thoughtful comments *and* your compliment!

@gppacana 7 жыл бұрын

narcissist

@CraigMalkin 7 жыл бұрын

Gregory Pacana did you mean to say more? Hard to know what this refers to. But as I mention, research points to the vast majority of presidents and politicians being narcissists. Question is: are they disordered?

@colleenswain7864 Жыл бұрын

5 years later, this is still a good discussion but we’ve moved down the road and this narcissist is even more extreme than ever. It’s scarier since he has not been held accountable. Now there’s the issue of what happens to our democracy should he have a narcissistic collapse or him getting his way. The America we know is in trouble.

@NarcissistFreealmost 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent vid. Thanks for sharing. 👍

@Stephen-Benton 4 жыл бұрын

Very well-done. Thank you both.

@deanaburnham9571 6 жыл бұрын

you made some very good observations

@karn5019 6 жыл бұрын

Great interview

@TheKak933 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this!

@bloominarty839 5 жыл бұрын

18 months down the track he certainly seems to have proven to be very difficult and people can’t seem to work with him, so without knowing him, he seems to be hitting high fives on all these symptoms that you’ve described..... uh oh! 😢

@clennine 3 жыл бұрын

Yes .. he is sooo on point... watching this after the 2020 election shows he is absolutely correct..

@hope46sf 6 жыл бұрын

I loved the interview!

@bloominarty839 5 жыл бұрын

Shakespeare wrote some awesome stories about this! ☠️🤴🏻🦉🎬

@thebeyer8321 3 жыл бұрын

I remember hearing “Hubris” themes over & over in high school and later college English Lit classes ad nauseum, and wondered, “Why is this so important??”- Hoo Boy, now we ALL KNOW!!!!!!

@robinplan1858 6 жыл бұрын

24:53 Nice analysis of Trump supporters that many of my hardass Bernie supporters could stand to hear. We need to recognize from one back-row kid to another, how we ended up political partisans before we can begin to have a conversation about which party offers the best solutions to our social and economic hardship.

@lynxminx4 5 жыл бұрын

I don't have the ultimate answers, but how does hugging a fascist and making him feel warm and accepted solve fascism?

@mrla6240 7 жыл бұрын

great interview! look beneath the hat! love it!

@CraigMalkin 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@CraigMalkin 5 жыл бұрын

Here's an updated example of the kind of evidence--not "MSM reporting", just raw evidence--that should concern anyone who's paying attention. twitter.com/ddale8/status/1080539327766106112

@rosegirl9410 6 жыл бұрын

I don't understand how you can ethically or legally diagnose someone you've never met let alone provided any type of assessment. This is one of the first things we're taught as diagnostic professionals.

@CraigMalkin 6 жыл бұрын

April Martin didn’t. Watch the video.

@cynthiaallen9225 6 жыл бұрын

The best explanation I've ever heard.

@smeyer9507 4 жыл бұрын

In Trump's case, this is VERY SCARRY.

@1414141x 3 жыл бұрын

Scary.

@ritar.4322 6 жыл бұрын

Where can I find your assessment of Hilary Clinton's narcissism? Or should I say malignant narcissism?

@tessapiotrowskikristensen8058 4 жыл бұрын

Nearly four years later, would you agree that Trump's actions have become worse? What is the worst scenario of a malignant NPD, especially for a person in authority?

@paulettem6682 3 жыл бұрын

Now in Dec 2020. What would you say after 4 years of T. tenure....

@Kellonwheels8 6 жыл бұрын

Overall I like your discussions and agree with your opinions. I recently figured out what narcissism, cluster B, sociopathy etc are due to wondering wth was wrong with my husband. I now realize my parents are on the narc spectrum. I'm surrounded by them and my life has been very negatively impacted by these pathetic individuals. However, I don't agree with you that Trump should be removed from office. Who would you rather be the POTUS? Hillary? Trump does not hold a candle to that psychopath!!! Most politicians I think are narcs to some degree anyway.

@CraigMalkin 6 жыл бұрын

"I don't agree with you that Trump should be removed from office."I never said that.

@cynthiaallen9225 6 жыл бұрын

Their campaign must have had a psychological advisor somewhere. How awful is that?

@Luisdefunes1 6 жыл бұрын

APS is related to sociopathy, not psychopathy. Very interesting conversation.

@CraigMalkin 6 жыл бұрын

Fantomas thank you! a lot of confusion around this, understandably. It’s actually correlated with both. Here’s just one overview scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,22&q=antisocial+personality+disorder+and+psychopathy#d=gs_qabs&p=&u=%23p%3D_vG1AHwWk0IJ

@Luisdefunes1 6 жыл бұрын

These links you post refer to studies that are quiet old. The links posted below represent the general consensus now. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23620353 www.elementsbehavioralhealth.com/mental-health/psychopathy-vs-antisocial-personality-disorder/ www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/psychopath-vs-sociopath-what-s-the-difference

@CraigMalkin 6 жыл бұрын

Fantomas the stats can get quite confusing but to clarify: for some time now the consensus has been that these constructs are distinct but related. The studies you cite --which I’m aware of- confirm this. To assert that disorders or traits are distinct doesn’t mean they’re uncorrelated. Given how each was defined there was bound to be overlap.

@Luisdefunes1 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, but notice that the correlation is asymmetric; that is, people with psychopathy have the ASP traits, but not otherwise (Hare psychopathy test).

@CraigMalkin 6 жыл бұрын

Fantomas correct. All psychopaths are to some extent antisocial but not all people with ASPD are psychopaths. Nevertheless, some are, as we’d expect with distinct but overlapping constructs. Psychopathy and narcissism show a similar pattern. Thanks for your comments!

@suzannereiser4720 6 жыл бұрын

Trump is obviously disturbed and dangerous but the scary thing to me is the amount of deluded supporters he has in this country.

@DerAua 5 жыл бұрын

He is more effective than any other president before. Syria, Afghanistan are on the verge of peace for the first time in nearly 20 years. China gets kicked from her pedestal. And the EU Muslim lovers get kicked down as well, and their undemocratic ways exposed. The "scientific" god denying elites are of course furious about this. All from the same universities, just saying. Read the Book! The end of marriage and thus the nuclear family, killing babies (so people can go on with lots of partners), forcing children to decide their gender and operate on them before puberty, soft approaches to war which prolong the suffering unnecessarily, encouraging lazy people to continue their lifestyle with benefits, child support (making leaving sacred marriage easy)... I could go on.

@leahoconnor368 6 жыл бұрын

captions or a transcript PLEASE

@AIXITstageleft 6 жыл бұрын

I would like to address this topic and would love to have your explanation Doctor. First, McCain is NOT a hero. Please read more about his history before you call him a hero. The man McCain is far from a hero. Second, Aspergers is often mistaken for narcissism. Could that not be the case here? Also, he has very successful children who do not show any signs of being raised by a disordered parent. If they were truly raised by a man with malignant NPD, we would see some signs in at least a few of his kids. Finally, he has had two ex wives and many public, high-profile relationships (both intimate and casual), yet none of them speak about being abused in any way. I came to your KZfaq channel looking for advice on how to get away from my severely emotionally abusive and narc husband, i feel rather disappointed (but mostly terrified) that our psychiatric community is so shallow and lacking in area of discernment. Please tell me you can see this more clearly now?!

@CraigMalkin 6 жыл бұрын

DisneylandLouie's I don’t diagnose Trump in this video; I explain what the terms mean. If you watch to the end you’ll even see I offer a solution for the split in our country. Most people don’t watch the video at all before commenting. I will say this: the continual gaslighting by the current administration has me deeply concerned. Since you sound like a supporter , maybe you can explain how you accept Presec and Trump claiming, for example, that he misspoke after singing Putin’s praises endlessly and saying, again and again, that he believed Putin’s denials. That’s just one example of his denying words and actions that are recorded for all the world to see. It’s as if reality doesn’t matter anymore. I’m far more concerned now than I was here, where I explained-and still believe-diagnosing the man merely stigmatizes mental illness.

@JMilosh 4 жыл бұрын

Pres Trump is a HEALTHY narcissist. Your two brain scans compared to Potus Trumps would be most interesting. Potus is taking on the most destructive den of dangerous snake narcissists in this country. Healthy actions and performance as a LEADER are paramount... NOT BS.

@lulee7375 3 жыл бұрын

Are you serious, he's closer to a psychopath !!!

@oliviagraceyt 6 жыл бұрын

Let's see, we're not here to diagnose, but..... Nothing yet, almost 16 months in would require impeachment or otherwise. I respect your work, but this is an overreach that is just a bit much. Obama might not have been as high on the narcissistic scale and was far more destructive to our country and the globe. You ought to stick to your clients and KZfaqrs--argh. Please, you sound just like athletes and Hollywood ilk. Last time I checked you two have never been asked to consult politicians. And would this video have ever happened with the Bill Clinton admin or if Hillary works have won. Let's be real.

@anniewilliams9317 6 жыл бұрын

Bridget Kelly the nerve of these two why don't they speak about Bill Clinton and Obama just to say a few I can't believe him I will not be watching him he should not put his nose in politics especially with Trump trump might have had some Mistresses but least they are alive to speak about it look up Obama and Bill Clinton and Hillary this man really has ordasity and not a very bright thing for him to do to speak about our president he wouldn't get on here and talk about Obama he has nerve

@debbiewagner6248 5 жыл бұрын

Bridget Kelly no we wouldn’t have this video, if Hillary had won, because she’s not a narcissist!

@cmsbeth 5 жыл бұрын

Right on! This overreach hinges on professionally inappropriate. Sad excuse for an interview!

@reginaarnone4845 2 жыл бұрын

@@anniewilliams9317 grow up!

@pavanatanaya 7 жыл бұрын

Spicer is speaking for Drumph. Dont get bamboozled by gaslighting behavior

@marshnn 3 жыл бұрын

One doesn't need to be a professional to know Trump is a dangerous narcissist He shows it every day.He is on his way out . I don't think he will go quietly

@davidanddiana7173 3 жыл бұрын

Can you please do an assessment of the Clinton’s and biden an harris’ narcissistic tendencies? I see harris changing her voice and or her vocabulary when she speaks to certain ethnic groups and biden does the same