Fixing the Wavy Floor Structure | Home Renovation & Addition Part 27

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0:00 - Intro
4:27 - Disconnected Joists
11:44 - Straitening the Joists
24:17 - Wednesday Intro
26:42 - Great Room Opening
33:25 - Pulling the Window
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@nkuete 2 жыл бұрын

Ship of Theseus An easier way to remember that concept though is "This is my grandfather's ax. My father replaced the handle and I replaced the head"

@mariowickel456 2 жыл бұрын

I'm impressed with Donavan, be glad you started this project and got the right contractor. He's correcting all the previous work that was done poorly

@dawsie 2 жыл бұрын

I know I was shocked to see the rookie mistakes made by the previous builder

@kellilangvo 2 жыл бұрын

I’m stepping way out of my lane but I’ll say it anyway: every time I hear you say welcome back to this ‘renovation thing’, I think to myself - it’s not a renovation thing…calling it that minimizes the enormity of what you’re undertaking - with just the help of one other person! …I’d say it’s a major home remodel/addition project…I’m learning so much following along and appreciate you sharing it with everyone…to quote Essential Craftsman: Keep up the good work👍🏽❤️

@ObiSeanKenobi 2 жыл бұрын

The ship thing Matt was trying to recall is the ship of Theseus , from Wikipedia, "In the metaphysics of identity, the Ship of Theseus is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. The concept is one of the oldest in Western philosophy, having been discussed by Heraclitus and Plato by c. 500-400 BC."

@technolefty 2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say Ship of Theseus. Good it's already been answered. Philosophers all.

@sfan2767 2 жыл бұрын

Came here for this too. I recently fixed my back gate which was rotting in place. I now call it the "Gate of Theseus" because I took it off the hinges, and replaced every piece except the hinges and fence board slats before putting it back up. I couldn't decide if I repaired my gate or made a new gate with some salvaged pieces.

@dkstotz 2 жыл бұрын

See Sampson Boat Co episode 58: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qr1haLmf0KvRgWQ.html

@billk8780 2 жыл бұрын

Applaud Donavan's attention in following the engineering drawings AND properly fixing other structural deficiencies you discover! All the best to you guys!

@hitnorcal 2 жыл бұрын

Donovan is hilarious. I hope you make this a regular thing where you visit him on future job sites and bs for an episode.

@donwilliams3626 2 жыл бұрын

The quality control guy must have blinked when the carpenter installed those floor joists!

@lyndamcardle4123 2 жыл бұрын

What Quality Control bloke ? I think the previous owner / owners may have bypassed that !

@18robsmith 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the name you are looking for is "The Ship of Theseus"?

@mcremona 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@18robsmith 2 жыл бұрын

@@mcremona My pleasure to have been of service Sir 🙂

@OntarioFirewoodResource 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@RobotRiedingerEd 2 жыл бұрын

Matthew, check out the Tally Ho project. kzfaq.info

@TowerHand 2 жыл бұрын

Or Talley Ho? 😉 ask Leo on the Sampson Boat Co channel.

@johnking8679 2 жыл бұрын

Moving right along !! Slowly, but surely, Matt and Donavan !!

@michaelsnell4034 2 жыл бұрын

Ship of Theseus. I know this from watching Sampson Boat Company rebuilding Tally Ho

@mikemcphaden5364 2 жыл бұрын

Thats where I was going. LOL!

@michaelsnell4034 2 жыл бұрын

@@mikemcphaden5364 It was also mentioned in Wanda Vision when the Vision she created met the Vision that was rebuilt from dead Vision.

@wlmjbrown 2 жыл бұрын

Did we all learn about the Ship of Theseus from Leo Goolden.

@andrewscott9919 2 жыл бұрын

@@wlmjbrown yes we did. I commented before I read the rest of this thread. You all are really great!

@andrewmiller2868 2 жыл бұрын

"I can't deal with your feelings" Donavan just cracks me up 🤣😂🤣😂.

@jeffgrant935 2 жыл бұрын

It might go unnoticed, but your camera placements and editing on this are really, really good... excellent perspective on what's going on.

@mcremona 2 жыл бұрын

Things that if done well, should go unnoticed 😄

@jeffgrant935 2 жыл бұрын

@@mcremona Exactly. :)

@clamage 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffgrant935 10:07 is particularly fine - I'm sure Donavan appreciates that one :D

@RobertHorton1975 2 жыл бұрын

For example, 4:30

@harrygreene8669 Жыл бұрын

Binging this series the past few days, been walking around the house with my tape measure. My wife is suspicious.

@hjemison 2 жыл бұрын

To see a good example of a ship restoration like you were speaking of, see Sampson Boat CO’s rebuilding of the 111 year old sailboat “Tally Ho”.

@CharlieTidwell 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I don’t comment often, but popped into comments to make sure someone mentioned them!

@jumar360 2 жыл бұрын

That's where I learned about the ship of Theseus. It's the same boat but all the parts have been changed.

@andrewscott9919 2 жыл бұрын

@@jumar360 In the Tally Ho re-construction, all but part of the transom were replaced. BTW the original transom had to be cut back on the sides, so the wood became lower than it was origninally, but it worked.

@rayvoorhies7180 2 жыл бұрын

Note to self. Don't attend any party's at Matt's with more than ten people in the room. 😉 Its a lot stronger after your repairs. You'll see a lot more progress after the electricians move the wires.

@markbrown6236 2 жыл бұрын

The dip in the floor, you always find something like that when remodeling. Good job fixing that.

@dazryan3463 2 жыл бұрын

Really love the positive banter in these videos. It is a joy to watch you guys push through obvious frustrations

@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

Great progress Matt you and Donavan make a great team :) Thanks for sharing the video with us!👍💖😎JP

@richardthornhill4630 2 жыл бұрын

Much more difficult to remodel someone else's work than to build it. Will be solid when Donavan completes the project.

@northvegassailrabbit3642 2 жыл бұрын

I also enjoy Donovan and hope you guys will be making more videos after this job.

@jeffgrant935 2 жыл бұрын

You two have a really great chemistry. Hopefully you exploit that further well after you're done your reno here.

@ggbuck2625 2 жыл бұрын

I've never done a remodel project (yet) that didn't have some hidden gotcha. At least you have a contractor who thinks like he's going to live there and is willing to fix the problems correctly. All that hard work and BS will pay dividends down the road and you'll be happy you tackled it when you did.

@QuinLeach 2 жыл бұрын

Ship of Theseus or "grandfather's axe" - good video.

@gdp3rd 2 жыл бұрын

When our kitchen floor was pulled up we found a hole patched with a flattened Pabst Blue Ribbon can, but at least all the joists were attached. But the entire house sagged about 3/8" in the middle, so we have a series of permanent jacks down in the unfinished basement.

@judithfairchild8620 2 жыл бұрын

You need a Donovan to come fix it properly. The sags in both yours and Matt's floors may be due to ground sagging after the build.

@kenc2257 2 жыл бұрын

@@judithfairchild8620 Well...at least 2 of the sags/swales in Matt's floor are caused by those joists NOT being connected.

@judithfairchild8620 2 жыл бұрын

@@kenc2257 yes I noticed. Poor construction.

@GB-dj1kg 2 жыл бұрын

I am proud of you guys for not saying the swear words I know you were thinking! As others have said, you did good when you picked your contractor. Thanks for taking me along the ride!

@mcremona 2 жыл бұрын

Plenty were said and plenty ended up on the cutting room floor

@nickpeelman 2 жыл бұрын

i loved watching This Old House with my dad when i was a kid. this brings back those same juices.

@garyrogers6761 2 жыл бұрын

As an aside, I am a Plumber in Australia and here we put roofs on and we use what we term 'builders blanket', which is that glass wool with a thick foil backing. When you are doing a roof here it gets warm on the roof and the glass wool sticks to you, the way I found to get rid of most of it at the end of the day is to have a warm\hot shower and use a face washer to 'wash down your skin as it removes 'most' of the prickly bits ? I am old now so it is up to you young folks to put up with those fun things .

@paulhammond7489 2 жыл бұрын

Nice fix on the 'Dippy Floor'

@Jammer.1 2 жыл бұрын

Yeh i agree you got one the best contractors in Donavan ! He knows how to fix the job right even wjen he has to bounce around doing it !

@bay9876 2 жыл бұрын

The building and entertainment at it's finest. Great works come from great bantering between builders.

@doriWyo 2 жыл бұрын

10:34: Donavan's disappearing shoe treads prove he's a working man!

@alanblasczyk1779 2 жыл бұрын

I just got back home from my trip to my nephews wedding in Indiana. Great video of working on the fly Matt. You both make a great team.

@stevieg.4816 2 жыл бұрын

I saw a floor out like yours once and the carpenters put shims in the buckets to raise the joist, absolutely JACKLEG. You guys did it the right way, not easy, but right never is on a repair. Great Job.

@chrisbarr1359 2 жыл бұрын

I can also hear the 'Steve Martin' in Donovan's voice now that a fellow sub mentioned it. PS: Donovan's new company shirts look great. Big improvement, more stylish 😎.

@karaDee2363 2 жыл бұрын

Great job! Love watching you guys work Matt, never a dull moment. And for some reason I find your home remodeling videos the most fascinating and fun to watch besides your furniture making videos.

@mgena717 2 жыл бұрын

You were thinking of the Ship of Theseus!

@anthonynicholas1165 Жыл бұрын

It's a bit like my fifteen year old broom, it's had four new heads and ten new handles, it's a great broom.

@gayle4804 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Great job!

@normolson1 2 жыл бұрын

Great job guys, thanks

@FredMcIntyre 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff Matt! 😃👍🏻👊🏻

@itzcaseykc 2 жыл бұрын

It's coming along slowly but surely... even with setbacks and unexpected issues. You guys are doing a great job!

@kbaker7430 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for another entertaining and informative session. Good work fellas.

@moes2168 Жыл бұрын

How do three missing hangers go unnoticed? All the way from workers who installed the joists, the baseboards, the furnace? Sounds like they all had "not my problem" complex. Glad it was caught and repaired.

@jimp.4531 2 жыл бұрын

thx for the journey so far.

@RatelLaw 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing

@rogerdudra178 9 ай бұрын

Greetings from the BIG SKY. To error is human I've heard.

@jimmowers7675 2 жыл бұрын

Great progress Matt. Thanks for sharing. God Bless.

@seanchinery 2 жыл бұрын

The Ship of Theseus

@jeanhawken4482 2 жыл бұрын

Such a huge build and you are all doing a brilliant job

@MichaelNatrin 2 жыл бұрын

Great video.

@johanhearn7720 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome job.

@OzMurf 2 жыл бұрын

This is really great real content. I am always entertained. Thank you

@jonahbones7901 2 жыл бұрын

lol whenever your tempted to use a li-ion battery as a hammer, remember they are expensive and if the damage results in thermal runaway you have a fire u cant put out in a wooden room :)

@surebrah 2 жыл бұрын

I like this series. Feels relatable.

@irvanairvana4055 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like you guys make the best of a not perfect situation. Makes for good viewing for us.

@george8873 2 жыл бұрын

You and Donovan make a great team. Surprised the inspector didn't catch those floor joists that weren't attached on the final inspection. Looks like that slate was supporting the whole floor. Shows how good of a job that floor installer did if the slate never cracked without being properly supported.

@mcremona 2 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t easy to see from below with the furnace trunks in place

@smokencoin3425 2 жыл бұрын

Coming along nice 👍🏽

@SteveP-vm1uc 2 жыл бұрын

I think the original builder came from Florida. Down here it is impossible to find a plumb wall or a straight tile line. Every electrical wire is pulled tight and forget about trim!!! Cabinets in this house were hung from a lowered ceiling that had 2x4s on their SIDES that had zero bridging. I swear the drywall on the dining room side was all that was holding up that side of the kitchen ceiling and cabinets. Adding insult to injury, they did this to have an "OPEN FEEL" from the kitchen to the dining room.. My builder buddy was here helping me tear out the kitchen and we both saw this at the same time and looked at each other in disbelief!!

@keithkenny4576 2 жыл бұрын

It helps when you have the right man for the job, when things go bad they just keep going bad

@Hertog_von_Berkshire 2 жыл бұрын

The little yellow pry-bar: I have a very similar one by Faithful. One of my favourite tools.

@yinn2yang 2 жыл бұрын

great job

@OceanofMaya 2 жыл бұрын

Guy with 30 years experience "I wouldn't stand there" Guy with 1 year experience "I would"...when that happens, it's always best not to stand close to the guy with one year experience:).

@charlesbrunner258 2 жыл бұрын

Wow a working video great job of going from plan a to plan z nice

@kenbabione7946 2 жыл бұрын

Channel Lock makes a nifty side cutter that makes pulling headless nails easy.

@andrewscott9919 2 жыл бұрын

Check out tally ho. Leo had to essentially replace they entire boat. He had a segment about what it is called when you replace, in his case, the almost the entire boat, but O don't remember what he called it. Just checked out your comments and some else came up with the same comment. How wonderful that I am not the only one to think of this. Great youtube channel.

@mauriceryton 2 жыл бұрын

Starting to get there.

@TheVitorgoncalves 2 жыл бұрын

good job guys

@tomfeldkamp4554 2 жыл бұрын

We saw what looked like sheets of 3/4 inch tongue-and-groove OSB used as the new sub-floor patches, but how did you secure them... nails, screws, with or without adhesive??? Good job of fixing the root causes of the problems you uncover ("I live here!") and letting us look over your shoulders. As a DIYer, I'm learning a lot, but especially from the remodel part of your project. Thanks for sharing the brutal reality of schedule disruptions and the interconnectedness of it all. Very helpful KZfaq series! Thanks.

@mcremona 2 жыл бұрын

They’re just dry fit for now so the electricians can access everything from above if needed. Thanks!

@neilscole 2 жыл бұрын

Matt, you're thinking "Ship of Theseus." :)

@TaylerMade 2 жыл бұрын

you were lucky you got an old school experienced builder. this is why when you set a budget for renovation you double it.

@kajem575 2 жыл бұрын

GET A HAIRCUT YA' HIPPIES! (My father and his National Guard buddies) So at 15 I left home joined a R&R band 🔉🎛🎚🎧🎤🎙🎸🥁🎹⌨️💽🖥🎷🎼🔊 and started growing my hair and by 20 it was at my beltline.😁 Fairly complicated stuff. Coming along nicely. You are doing a fine job. How many more weeks do you project to finish? 🙂✌️❤

@MikeWest_W 2 жыл бұрын

It’s called the ship of Tally Ho

@berg8970 2 жыл бұрын

I find it interesting how many of us watch the same things.

@18robsmith 2 жыл бұрын

@@berg8970 We enjoy hard work - especially when it's being done by others who are skilled craftsmen.

@MikeWest_W 2 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of skills that are learned better with a mentor than from a book. KZfaq creators (like Matt and Leo) have inspired and enabled me to pursue hobbies and crafts I’ve always been curious about.

@richardangevine3768 2 жыл бұрын

So glad you all found that, before trying to set a piano on that area.

@mcremona 2 жыл бұрын

The furnace would have caught it 😄

@danbrookshire5628 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like the electricians need to make an appearance.

@shantanarain2841 2 жыл бұрын

Get er done Donivan Matt was able to walk on the joists because he's soo light soaking wet he could dance on those floating joists and it's only slightly moving .. if I stepped on that I would have fallen through ages ago

@chipeddy7303 2 жыл бұрын

3 things you rarely find in a house are level, plumb & square

@robertpearson8546 Жыл бұрын

What are the joists made of? They look like particle board, but particle board is just sawdust and glue and bows under even the slightest load.

@JosephClatterbuck 2 жыл бұрын

3:53 Ship of Theseus

@Mysiltour 2 жыл бұрын

Bonjour, ça va être un bel intérieur👍

@kimAndNate 2 жыл бұрын

ship of Theseus

@acoow 2 жыл бұрын

Ship of Theseus. See also Trigger's Broom and Grandfather's Axe.

@pl5bnsf 2 жыл бұрын

I was groaning thinking of how to fix that floor sag. But you made it look almost easy. Watching you tear up the floor to expose the joists was painful!

@mcremona 2 жыл бұрын

That’s where all the work was. I spent the previous day removing the subfloor that was missing in the intro

@charlesarnold4963 2 жыл бұрын

I cannot believe a builder would leave joists that are not connected at one end. That is quite scary! Also I noticed that there are no noggins between the joists, to prevent them warping and twisting.

@jumar360 2 жыл бұрын

Ship of Theseus.

@pinwizz69 2 жыл бұрын

Are you going to be replacing the fiberglass insulation with closed cell spray insulation thar has over double the R value of fiberglass ? Not to mention that it doesn't have the draft issue that fiberglass has. It's so fascinating watching Donovan putting up with your highjinks Matt. He's definitely a patient well trained gentleman. Tho he may take umbrage at being called a gentleman 🤪

@matthewwright57 2 жыл бұрын

Ship of Theseus

@janedc5ch319 2 жыл бұрын

The floor remains me of a apt. I once lived in. You walk in the bedroom ,and went down hill. You couldn't complain about anything wrong with the place , the manager would get mad. Like when the lights wouldn't go on over the sink in bathroom. After buying new bulbs. It still had problems. She got really mad at me and said, you have to turn the switch on very slowly. Sometimes that worked. What a pain liveing there

@firesurfer 2 жыл бұрын

Leaving comment, as instructed. Keep on truckin'. btw, those hangers seem to be short. Could have used the next size up.

@PeterWMeek 2 жыл бұрын

My grandfather's ax; of course it's had six new handles and two new heads, but it's still my grandfather's ax. For a more recent version, check out the KZfaq channel Sampson Boat Co [ kzfaq.info/love/g-_lYeV8hBnDSay7nmphUA ] where Leo Goolden is rebuilding the Tally-Ho, a 113 year old sailing boat of historical significance (It won the Fastnet Race). There may be a stick of wood retained here and there, as much for sentimentality as for practicality. The actual phrase you are looking for is [ Ship of Theseus ], a famous historical metaphysical question.

@christobar 2 жыл бұрын

Matt Cremona's "house". Well it was a house before they started! :-D :-D

@chwilhogyn 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the metric, one-note that European building work is measured by 'millimetre or mill (mm)' and 'meters (m) but some builders might use 'centimetre (cm)' 1mm = 1/25 inch 2mm = 1/16 inch 3mm = 3/32 inch 4mm = 1/8 inch 5mm = 3/16 inch 6mm = 1/4 inch 7mm = over 1/4 inch 8mm = 5/16 inch 9mm = 3/8 inch 10mm = over 3/8 inch 13mm = 1/2 inch 16mm = 5/8 inch 19mm = 3/4 inch 25mm = 1 inch

@mcremona 2 жыл бұрын

Feel free to move the decimal 😄

@chwilhogyn 2 жыл бұрын

@@mcremona 🤣👍

@Drew-de7ey 2 жыл бұрын

ship of theseus

@MarkUKInsects 2 жыл бұрын

In the UK we also have "Trigger’s broom", from a BBC sitcom. Watch on KZfaq, will make sense.

@kmccontube 2 жыл бұрын

You are really lucky that floor was over the utility room. That would have sucked if it had a finished ceiling.

@mcremona 2 жыл бұрын

Luckily it was flat over the finished ceiling space

@PantsMcGregor 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to have a slate floor

@scottmedori1437 2 жыл бұрын

Matt- while it would be nice to see this go quicker, it is great that you show how much work is involved. Too many show only the highlights, making people think it’s easy

@ohasis8331 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty scary floating joist problem. Those kind of things cause me to wonder what else they'd missed, forgotten or simply not bothered about.

@nickmastroianni5557 2 жыл бұрын

At 30:23, Donovan's saw slips and hits the PEC tubing. You might want to check to ensure it is not damaged or punctured.

@stevebabiak6997 2 жыл бұрын

The swale on the floor might have been due to the weight of that slate flooring that was there previously. Joists should have had some reinforcement before that was installed in the first place.