When he said "Muh COCK" or whatever at the Kingsmoot, I knew they fucked up.

Should have went with Victorian

@@davewight They basically did with their interpretation of Euron.

@@Lalvon_Zelpharr The Euron we got in the tv show was too much to handle. I'd personally prefer eldritch dark pirate over discount jack sparrow.

Euron's not even really a discount Jack Sparrow, rather he's the guy who Davy Jones didn't accept on his crew as an eternal slave because he knew that he couldn't possibly put up with this annoying frat cunt, but Euron went on thinking he's too tough and well-hung for Davy to handle, making him even more obnoxious.

BA DUM TSSS! ...but yes, you are.

Waka waka

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Out. Get out. GET OUT YOU GODLESS SODOMITE!

nailed it

Perfect

I love how ever since S6 they stated that winter was starting to show up and that you couldn't travel, how everyone would be stuck on their castles. But then "yass queen" Daenerys just goes to KL and burns everything down.

@@manthe3711 and it starts raining snow afterwards for no reason

@@manthe3711 The end of season 5 was wintry. But after that it warmed up again.

"And there came a Long Night that lasted a generation".

I was actually hoping Westeros would fall to the walkers

I had wet farts more fulfilling than GoT's S8.

The whole tv show has zero rewatchability because all the storylines end in shit and makes past ones even worse; ie Stannis going North and the Prince that was promised

Bruh, i used to re-watch the show ever year, but now....never again.

@@naturallawgiver But they created IT and i found The books so im still happy

Same. All the early greatness ruined. All those years wondering where it was all headed wasted. I pray to the old gods and the new the books get finished and in a properly satisfying way.

@Liz Lee I'm not talking about philosophical interpretations of the story. They tend to be quite personal and subjective. I'm talking about the narrative building aspect and essentially what keeps people interested in your story. Buildups and pay offs are important. As a writer you learn to earn the trust of the reader as quickly as possible by building up scenarios and providing meaningful resolutions. Sure you can misdirect, but if that's all that you do then the reader has no reason to trust anything that you write, it's all an elaborate bluff. The Others have been built up from the very start of the books and the show. They are definitely a meaningful part of the story, not a misdirect. Even if they are not the third act villain, which turns out to be Danny, that amount of build up just has to pay off satisfyingly. The Night King is the embodiment of the Others in the show. When he dies one of the primary narrative arcs come to an end. To treat him like a plot device just to set up cool action setpeices cheapens the amount of build up they gave him. The pay off isn't significant enough. And that's why a lot of people are left with the sense that they were cheated out of a good ending. Because there is an imbalance between build up and payoff.

A useless plot device at that... it didn't even matter because the Good Guys' army magically regenerated and Dany only needed one dragon to blow up all of King's Landing!

@Liz Lee Well the problem is the third act itself should have been at least two seasons long but the show runners were not prepared to give it that much time. I do have some sympathy for them because they were working without any original material. But it does seem like they threw in the towel towards the end. The white walker story is like a science exhibition volcano that felt like it could explode in your face but fell disappointingly flat instead. It's a glorious sideshow at best. Which is why Jon and Bran have weird incomplete character arcs, because they were our main windows to the white walker story. Quinn is spot on in this video about the show runners not having the skill or interest in handling the more magical elements of the story. Because they didn't really understand or value it, they felt like they could take it anywhere, and where they took it wasn't interesting enough.

Yeah, absolutely. There should have been a whole season of the fight against the White Walker threat, at least. They spent seven seasons telling us the real threat was from the North, and then one episode to put that aside, and back to the humans fighting for the throne again. The overarching meta narrative of the entire show was simply ignored at the end.

The long night should have been at least a whole season.

Plus, even if they wanted to have the Night King be defeated in the first half of the final season, I think the least they could have done was utilize the Night King in a similar manner as Smaug’s portrayal in the Hobbit movie trilogy. These are four examples I can think of, if one would like to read below: *1.) Have the Night King parallel Daenerys, in a similar manner as Smaug paralleling Thorin.* Even though Smaug was killed off in the opening scene of the third movie, leaving Azog as the remaining villain like Cersei, he still had thematic presence through the vice of greed he represents. When Thorin starts to become possessive of Erebor’s treasure and contemptuous towards the men and elves, to the point of declaring war, there is a fear that the dwarf king is becoming another Smaug. Likewise, if the Night King was actual given a fleshed out motivation, like if he observed Westeros for thousands of years and decided to kill off all humanity to break the cycle of corruption and depravity forever, then it would tie in with the rest of the series’ themes/plots. He would become a foreshadowing of Daenerys wanting to break the wheel and end the atrocities of tyrants, only to tragically fall and become a genocidal tyrant herself. The repeated “break the cycle/wheel” line can be the equivalent to the repeated “I will not part with a single coin, not one piece of it” line. *2.) Allow the aftermath of the coming winter and Winterfell battle to yield more major consequences driving the plot, like the destruction of Esgaroth.* After Smaug was killed, Lake-town was in ruin, while the dwarves were exhausted and afraid of losing their hard won kingdom and treasure, and the elves wanted to finally get their share. This drives the desperation of the three factions and leaves them more vulnerable in dealing with Azog and Bolg. For “Game of Thrones”, this is probably even more important, since the White Walkers were supposed to represent an existential threat, from which the game of thrones is a distraction. For example, winter should still be coming after the battle of Winterfell, and Daenerys’ forces should be visibly decimated in the following episodes. All of the other episodes could show the whole south being covered in heavy snow, and the threat of cold, starvation, and depleted soldiers increases the stakes of ending the war as soon as possible, plus Daenerys’ desperation to get her way through more extreme and violent actions. Even if the Night King was to be killed off, perhaps the plot could have had a twist, where the White Walkers generals can still live independent of their creator. This could allow a large group to retreat back up north and still be looming threat by the season finale, with the need to finish them off providing a new reason why it ends with Jon Snow going north. *3.) Let the Night King have time to shine as a character, who even has some interactions with the protagonists.* Smaug is even less human than the Night King, literally speaking, and just as akin to a destructive force of nature. But eventually, Smaug does share some memorable exchanges of dialogue with Bilbo, the dwarves, and Bard that give him charisma and nuance, without taking away from his malevolent inhuman qualities. It also helped that these interactions established Smaug as a villain who is vain, powerful, boastful, and willing to toy with his victims. So it feels in character when Smaug accidentally exposes his weak point to Bard, but is made oblivious by his perceived invincibility. Likewise, the Night King and White Walkers are implied to know how to speak languages and negotiate, who could give an opportunity for dialogue with Jon Snow, Bran, etc. Maybe the interaction between the Night King and Bran could establish why he is so fixated on him personally, to the point of wanting to kill Bran himself and risk exposing himself. *4.) Have the Night King’s death itself be climactic and make sense, like Smaug’s.* The Hobbit book and movies have Smaug be killed by Bard the Bowman simply protecting his home, instead of the main protagonists invested in the journey from the start like Bilbo, Gandalf, or Thorin. One could argue that having Arya kill the Night King instead of Jon Snow, Bran, etc. is a similar move. But with “The Hobbit”, there is more build-up to Bard taking down Smaug, the book has Bilbo contribute to Smaug’s demise by talking about his chest’s weak point, the rules were clearly established and left consistent, plus the movies add a whole action scene dedicated to the dwarves confronting Smaug themselves and trying their own plan to kill him. Likewise, even if Jon Snow is not going to be the one to slay the Night King, despite all the personal history they have, there could still have been at least some confrontation between them, where Jon can make it even easier for Arya to kill the Night King (like damaging a piece of his frontal armor to leave an opening for Arya to stab). Also, if they wanted Arya’s assassination attempt to make sense, I think they should have at least had Arya change her appearance into a Wight to get past all of his minions, which is actually similar to a part in the books, where an instructor of the Faceless Men has his face become skeletal with worms crawling out.

D&D would've fucked it up no matter how long it dragged on for. They should have bailed 3 seasons ago and passed the torch to someone who was actually competent and respectful of the source material.

d&d kind of forgot that the long night was the main threat

unless someone comes in to make the long night prequel and intentionally decanonizes S8

@@TheINSANATY I hope we'll get a version of it some day.

@@alanpennie8013 It's impossible. Season 8 pretty much ruined the White Walkers for good.

they completely ruined the concept of the Long Night not to mention the Age of Heroes and the first battle of the Long Night and Azor Ahai, all the stuff that I wanted to see.

Don't forget, he looked cool. Style above substance... aka trash...I loathe D & D so very much.

@@thedragondemands5186 TV only fans believed in the dumbs way too much because they hadn't read the books and probably underrated the amount of direct influence GRRM had on the best parts of the first seasons.

@@tammichenard1024 the tv white walker are the draugr from skyrim.

@@thedragondemands5186 no!

@@tammichenard1024 and again they made a show that you care about so much lmao amirite

''Killed by a pig.''

😂😂😂

Straight White Male boar

@@jtamiing559 But Robert quotes this to mock himself.

Milk of the poppy is my water

Or "BUILD ME AN ARMY WORTHY OF MORDOR" "THERE IS NO LIFE IN THE VOID, ONLY DEATH" "ARAGORN. ELESSAR" "Baggins. Baaaaggins. BAGGINS!"

True, English isn't my first language so I have trouble understanding accents but his diction is clear af i love it

Amen

Agree 💜

Horror or fantasy audio books daaaaaamn that would be good🔥🔥🔥

Hi daddy😳

he going be called the White Walker Master.

Joffrey chokes and turns purple. Jaime: Well that's what I call a "Purple Wedding". (Insert Laugh Track)

You're giving them too much credit by implying they understood it in the first place.

@@pedersenlasse true true

@nomar Dinkleberg Winds of winter is possibly coming out this year so, here's hoping!

Jason Todd but dreams of spring will never come out

@@Lord_Of_Night lol, that was the rumour in 2018 Oh, and in 2019.

Yes! Agree completely. Season 8 was unforgivable, and D and D should have to give their MASSIVE paychecks back. (well...not sure how that could happen legally lol but I can dream...)

I actually wanted it to end with the Night King winning and everybody killed off, so to show how the conflict over the Iron Throne was utterly pointless as those involved ignored what was really important. In my opinion, that would have been a great way to end. It definitely would have been a direct contrast to how a high fantasy series usually ends.

Hell yes! Though peeps would still complain about it ending on an anticlimactic note, I think it could've worked if they developed it enough.

I thought that in the end all the kings and queens would fight in a meaningless war for a throne and then when one party would have won the NK would have come out of nowhere and with no pearation what so ever he would have killed the winning party.

Yup they could have easily given him a Darth Vader Rogue One moment but they wanted to have so much plot armor shot in slow motion to was a shit load of time.

yeah, but they looked cool. Isn't that all that matters?

The Long Night was suppose to bury Westros in 10ft of snow and freeze everyone.

Eurons fleet hitting the first dragon with 100% accuracy on multiple shots, proceeds never to land another shot for the rest of the show

@@joshjohnson2753 "Wow, one scorpion took out Rhaegal. Cersei has dozens of them all over the King's Landing walls. I wonder how Dany is going to get around this danger without losing her last dragon?" D&D: "lol"

Specially since they talked about Euron and his fleet at the war council. Did she forget on the dragon flight over to dragon stone. That was so stupid. As stupid as Euron even managing to Kill a dragon.

I mean, isn't it incomprehensible Dark Speech, though?

Pippin and Sauron actually have an exchange in the RoTK novel: In a low hesitating voice Pippin began again.... 'I saw a dark sky, and tall battlements,' he said. 'And tiny stars. It seemed very far away and long ago, yet hard and clear. Then the stars went in and out - they were cut off by things with wings. Very big, I think, really; but in the glass they looked like bats wheeling round the tower. I thought there were nine of them. One began to fly straight towards me, getting bigger and bigger.... 'I tried to get away, because I thought it would fly out; but when it had covered all the globe, it disappeared. Then he came. He did not speak.... He just looked, and I understood. '"So you have come back? Why have you neglected to report for so long?" 'I did not answer. He said: "Who are you?" I still did not answer, but it hurt me horribly..., so I said: "A hobbit." 'Then suddenly he seemed to see me, and he laughed at me. It was cruel.... I struggled. But he said: "Wait a moment! We shall meet again soon. Tell Saruman that this dainty is not for him. I will send for it at once. Do you understand? Say just that!" 'Then he gloated over me. I felt I was falling to pieces. No, no! I can't say any more. I don't remember anything else.'

Same. I'm so disappointed.

I think they were saving it for the 'long night' tv show that never happened.. unfortunately

@@jessefisher1809 That's not good for the story that already exists though. It's poor writing if the audience have to look to media completely separate than what they're watching or reading to receive answers that should be part of the story in the first place. Especially if said media might get cancelled, which did happen in the case of the long night prequel.

I remember D&D once saying he'd never speak a word because...ooh, that makes him so much more mysterious ...And that's all we ever got

I don't think he's even that. Even the most generic of villains, like Maleficent (old version, not this new humanized one) can be likable and badass. He's just a piece of cardboard who exists so the heroes could have battles and DnD can film the actors emoting.

In the books Pippin reports a short conversation with him.

along with their egos

yeah but George is lazy. D&D should have never went anywhere near these last 3 seasons. George is lazy as hell tho..

"what killed the dinosaurs... The Ice Age!" - say's the Night King as he throws the javelin.

Ha

I actually made a similar comment shortly after Season 7 aired, where I imagined scenarios of Schwarzenegger’s Mr. Freeze leading the White Walkers as the Night King. I’ll do my best to retype them below from memory... *1.) Night King leaves his icy mark on Bran in the vision.* “Stay cool, Bird Boy!” *2.) Night King and horsemen appear overlooking Hardhome.* “Tonight’s forecast, a freeeeze is coming!” *3.) Night King uses Viserion’s icy flame breath to shatter the Wall’s support structure.* “Always winterize your pipes.” *4.) Night King sees his faithful lieutenant killed by Jon Snow.* “FROSTY?!” *5.) During the battle at the lake.* “What killed all the dragons? The Ice Age!” *throws javelin at Viserion* *6.) Night King confronting his makers in the Three-Eyed Raven’s cave.* “I’m afraid... that my condition has left me cooold... to your pleas of mercy!” *kills Children of the Forest* *7.) Massacre of Hardhome reaches its peak.* “Alright everyone, chill! Chill! Chill!” *8.) Jon Snow makes a mad dash to the Night King, only to fall through the ice into the water.* “You are not sending me to the cooler!” *9.) Imagines a hypothetical ending where the White Walkers have successfully reached King’s Landing, the Night King is now celebrating his victory on the Iron Throne with slippers made of Ghost and Nymeria, and all of our heroes are now a choir of Wights.* “Sing! Sing! Come on, sing! Louder! Come on! Sing! Sing! Sing!”

Yep. Giant world ending army? No problem, there's an off switch!

I think it would have been perfectly fine, if it turned out that killing an Other/White Walker only destroys the particular Wights he animated, and the Night King’s subordinate generals could still exist independently of him (with the logic that they are still living sentient beings unlike the Wight minions). When I was outlining my own version of the GoT ending for fun, I made that an actual plot point and even had a moment foreshadowing this, where Tyrion questions Jon’s hypothesis that the Night King’s death alone will also instantly vanquish the other White Walkers, saying “When you take a goat out to be slaughtered, does its sh*t turn back into grass?” At least then, it could allow the death of the Night King to deal a notable blow to the army of the dead (like disabling the reanimated Viserion and a huge chunk of the Wights), without him being a walking off switch for the entire Long Night. It would actually make the Night King look smart too, for going out of his way to find children like Craster’s sons to turn into White Walkers, since they could theoretically carry on the torch if he died. But then the show makes the Night King’s plan to use Craster’s sons look like a complete waste of time, since the subordinate generals cannot do crap other than be mini-self-destruct buttons to defend the ultimate self-destruct button.

The Bronze Age of DC Comics One theory is that they are wargs, and there may be an Uber warg manipulating them all, and the books may result in humanity winning by killing this “Great Other”

I hate how it was randomly shoe horned into that Episode Beyond the Wall. Felt like it came out of left field

nonya biz he should’ve been as unknown to them as the Three Eyed Raven was.

Why’d they keep pushing that throughout the entire series if it meant nothing?? I guess to make it more shocking when they decided to make Daenerys the final villain.

That would be a better ending.

@Jogy Mogy that would be a great, great ending of all movies..but no the little girl who recenlty lost her virginity just kill him like a normal dude..hahaha

@@pauljapson2008 the little girl that is super assassin, despite that she just trained 3 days or so...

I would have gone with the ice zombies walking past the throne like its existence doesn't matter at all. Because it doesn't. King's Landing would have fallen at that point and everyone who cared is dead.

Seems like he would’ve exploded upon sitting on it since it was forged in dragon fire like Valyrian steel. That would’ve even been more interesting if after all the carnage and everyone is dead, he sits down and is destroyed and nobody is left😂

Even for a “Dark Lord” fantasy villain, it is still possible to incorporate/portray him in a way that allows for moral ambiguity, conflicts more layered than a simple “one good side vs. one bad side”, and a three-dimensional characterization. The most recent example I can think of is the portrayal of Dracula in Netflix’s “Castlevania” adaptation, which is one way the Night King could have potentially turned out, if he was given similar fleshing-out as many human antagonists and tied better thematically with the rest of the series.

Yep.... if Dragonfire can't kill him what good will it do to stab him with a Valyrian Steel... it's only said to be able to handle dragonbone not White walkers, I guess the two blokes just decided yep let's just kill him with the most sassy character and have him die in the most sissy way... that's subversion 100

@ajs1031 #edit lol

@ajs1031 wasn't denying there were plot points leading up to Valyrian Steel being significant, merely highlighting dragonfire; which at the time could be argued was as powerful if not more had no effect. Well other than a sarcastic glimpse into TNK's humanity. Still visually spectacular, with disregard for the plot, symbolism or even an explanation for the 'teleportation' which marred the end of what should have been beyond epic IMO.

Idk if I remember it right but isn't Valyrian Steel supposed to be the solid version of dragonfire or something? Like dragonfire trapped in glass? So shouldn't be dragonfire effective because it's the real thing? Please correct me if I'm wrong, i have a shit memory 😅

@ajs1031 True, but weaknesses like those are generally cop-outs because the writers couldn't figure out a plot element that would organically place their characters in a losing scenario in the beginning of the plot. Can't figure out how to create a threat for superman? Boom, kryptonite. I feel like the book Others wouldn't have a simple weakness like valyrian steel. Or at least, even if they do, it likely won't be enough to completely defeat them.

I still cannot believe they changed the villain 3 episodes in a row. My God S8 was bad.

@@superanimegamer01 Yup. S8E3 - night king S8E4 , S8E5 - Cersei, Euron finger in the bum greyjoy S8E6 - Daenerys kinda forgot targaryen. Y i k e s

The Night King was the only villain they needed for the rest of the show, and that turned out grrrrreeeeeeaaaaaaaatttttttt...... 😑

Matthew Housham I mean the Night King and his army froze the entire north beyond the Wall for thousands of years. How can something that powerful be stopped so easily??

That actually sounds like an amazing ending for GOT and it finishes Jaime's character arc appropriately

That is so much better than what D&D came up with

@Anjelica Snorcket lol I know I was just saying that some people may not have caught the inconsistencies mainly the people who thought season 8 was amazing and don't pick up on plot holes and inconsistencies that they told an incoherent story

@Anjelica Snorcket I agree I think it's insane that people actually thought it was good like I get if your favorite character got what they wanted but that's not what I'm upset I'm upset that we had good episodes like the red wedding and got the fuckery like the "wight hunt" beyond the wall or Tyrion believing Cersei would send help North, the night king smiling... like how can people not see that they wrecked the series. I do find some silly shows entertaining also but those shows aren't on the level of game of thrones so we do expect better from a series like this.

I still have no idea what GRRM saw in them. And the fact that George himself used to be a screen writer makes it worse.

Show was great for the first 6 seasons. They actually improved on a lot of aspects in the books and made some changes for the better. But season 7 fell short and 8 was a disaster.

@@dimitrythomas4158 Can you name these changes?

TheGrouchyGamer Most of book 5. Hardome. Which was one of the best episodes of the show. Tywin Lannister’s opening scene in the show with Jaimie when he’s carving up the deer. Some great dialogue there and it’s not in the book. Arya and Tywin instead of Bolton. Brianna vs the Hound. Ned vs Jaimie. A lot of the stuff with Bronn in the early seasons. Martin actually said Bronn is way better in the show then he made him in the books. Just some I can think of off the top of my head. Don’t get me wrong there are a lot of things they messed up from the books especially in the latter seasons. The battle at the end of the first book was left out because of budget. That’s hardly the fault of D&D. But let’s not act like the books were perfect. Especially the last 2.

@@dimitrythomas4158 Yeah, but most of this was just spectacle which eventually lead to nothing. Which, to be fair, the books could wind up being. Hardhome - The 60 Minute Night Brienne/Hound - No Consequences Arya/Tywin - No Fake Arya, So Pointless Bronn - Master of Coin and Lord Highgarden

You're god damn right!

yeah it was stupid. I saw someone describe it as Hermonie killing voldamort. could not agree more.

Don’t forget Rhaegal’s humiliating and insulting demise at the hands of Euron (instead of, say, his own brother Viserion) and who they chose to rule over the kingdoms at the end. 😑

It destroyed Jon’s arc instantly.

@@MaplelustEven worse. It's more like DOBBY killing Voldemort. smh

don't forget his patented 'come at me bro' arm gesture.

That doesn’t constitute a personality

There is always that one guy who explains the joke, congratulations Darth Chungus, you're that guy.

EbuCallinav crappy joke

@@kyleisbart197 don't be a poor sport

He took over castle with 30 guys that the night king couldn't take with 100,000.

Big ouchie 😬😂

I stopped caring after season 7 and never even watched season 8 nor do I plan to.

@1993DJC amen

I wait for the day, the glorious day somewhen in the distant future, when the abomination that was the TV show is long forgotten and I will turn the last page of the last novel in a well read copy worn with use and age and tell my children, after slyly coughing, fighting down tears and finding my voice again: and that's how it ends.

@@godfreyofbouillon966 I stopped caring after season 7 but I've been stupid and still watched season 8.

"little upset" its good. I'm totally disappointed about GOT last season.

Lord Inquisitor because D&D wrote to pander to the actors. They needed an arch nemesis for Kit Harrington so he could show off his stunt swordsmanship he learned on Pompeii. That’s why they wrote Hardhome, battle of the bastards, the wight Hunt. They were all vanity projects to show off Kit. Then by season 8, Maisie Williams was there favorite actress so they had her kill the Night King.

Iris Lamb I mean still it seems kinda stupid to shove an overtly fantasy character when you firstly hate fantasy when you could just put a human antagonist in the world instead. I might like the white walkers and the night king had potential as a sort of incomprehensible threat that can’t be bargained reasoned or negotiated with but they wasted that to have him stand there menacingly

Lord Inquisitor I think that Martin gave them the end outline, where Euron is possibly the ultimate bad guy, season 4, when he left, and D&D decided to add the Night King, to replace him, because they hadn’t set any of the groundwork for Euron. Then he just turned into a generic bad guy. Then because D&D were in a rush they didn’t bother giving him a personality because it was important to get scenes of the actors emoting. They even said that they never bothered trying to understand the themes or story of ASOIAF, they just wanted a show about power.

@@irisamanda1158 That's it. They really skimped on the mystical side of the story. If they had included more the show might have looked more like Hannibal

EXACTLY!!! Better yet, why handle a fantasy series at all???!!!

I'm curious: are you reading it in the original or in a German translation? I wonder what the story would be like in a German text.

@@pgsells There are two translations into German, an older, classic one, and a more recent, modern one. But I couldn't tell you anything more about it, since I'm reading the novel in its original language.

Grüße aus England! (Ich bin in Deutschland aufgewachsen)

@@laertesdd Dune auf bayerisch, gell!

He was pretty good until they inflicted the "20 good men" nonsense on him (and us.)

@@alanpennie8013 Ser Twenty of house Goodmen is the best fighter in Westeros.

Season 4, shirtless Ramsay.

I liked Thanos especially the line "You couldn't live with your own failours. And where did that bring you? Back to me."

@@TheINSANATY I also love that part.

Nah it shouldn't necessarily. I always imagined it to be somewhat akin to the Romero zombie story where ultimately the zombies are a force to be reckoned with sure but the true villains are other humans.

Kate S Go watch fucking World War Z or walking dead

I was thinking the same thing. After all of the tragedy throughout the show I was thinking the White Walkers would force a lot of favorite characters to their deaths

Exactly white walkers are main threat and villains but instead we got fucking cersi and over the top pirate 🤦‍♂️

@@ithemba defend bad writing. NO, that's not what should have happened at all. the purpose of game of thrones became a common enemy and the 7 kingdoms having to work together to destroy it. the kingdom vs kingdom crap should have been it's own story line. defending bad writing makes you look like foolish.

LOL. that's so true 😆😆😆

Except for when the Dothraki hordes and other armies respawn anyway, allowing for Daenerys to still deliver a curb-stomp battle to King’s Landing.

Lol u just blew my mind

Rick S He even kinda looks like him

Darth Maul is actually a very well developed character in the lore. Wish we knew half as much about the Night King.

Darth Maul Alolan Version.

Wait...it's actually coming out? I thought I would be 40 by the time he released it.

@@Chodesity2012 was in my news feed, but how reiable it is, I'm not sure. considering there have been rumours throughout the past years. i believe it when i see it, i guess.

Don't agree but fuck me, by remembering me about that scene it occured to me how freaking pointless that was! The whole children of the forest and white walkers subplot, all just a giant fart.

His backstory was very disappointing

It was both anticlimactic and stupid. But hey, at least it made more sense than Hodor.

I was ok with the little backstory they gave us, but it created more questions. It made it clear the north beyond the Wall wasn’t always frozen. Did the last of the Children of the Forest remain beyond the Wall because mankind was still more of a danger to them than their own deadly creation that turned on them?? Why would the Three Eyed Raven be kept beyond the Wall and trained there instead of at the aisle of Faces out of reach of the Night King? And if the wights were placed in the ground at the entrance to the Three Eyed Raven’s cave to prevent a new Three Eyed Raven from being trained, then the Night King always knew where the Three Eyed Raven was and why wouldn’t he just kill him before Bran arrived?

The moment they reveal his motivation

I was expecting him to duct tape an Arya doll to it.

pretty much yeah.