This week we're discussing the best-selling consoles, why EA avoids the Nintendo Switch, Game Boy turns 30, and more.
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@kotonk16245 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for Tina’s NPR voice!
@ChristianNava5 жыл бұрын
Tina's raspy voice: 10/10
@tlink19935 жыл бұрын
I started downloading the audio only version 45 seconds into the show. 😂 I wish she would whisper "Marioooo...," in my ear all nite so bad.
@ChristianNava5 жыл бұрын
@@tlink1993 Whoa whoa whoa! Just saying she shouldn't have been apprehensive about her sore throat because she still sounded awesome. Not that it matters too much, since I'm more interested in what she has to say, and not how she sounds =)
@LilTempo255 жыл бұрын
I don't think Tina realizes that she sometimes interrupts the flow of the conversation whenever she adds random facts or continues to talk about the same topic, specially when Daemon wants to move on lol
@rockstarTraveler5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I've ever seen Sam JUST wear a t-shirt. I like it!
@ecnerwal12345 жыл бұрын
look at those guns!
@shayz30155 жыл бұрын
Maybe next week....no t-shirt?!
@ecnerwal12345 жыл бұрын
@@shayz3015 no shirt all stache
@USMCbrantley5 жыл бұрын
Love having this at full screen on my 2nd monitor at work, makes time go by smooth on these occasional Sunday morning grinds
@Longy045 жыл бұрын
I too cannot play games on my tv when it's sunny outside. Also, shout out to that teacher who hosts game events for his students, wish I had a teacher like that in school.
@NintendoSphere5 жыл бұрын
In what universe does justin not see THE SIMS selling well on Switch?! That game even if it's a poorly optimized version of it would make back it's investment and more!
@Max-_-Power.75 жыл бұрын
I agree sims should sell big if it runs good.The other new big ea games probably have very little chance of running well ofline or online.
@Doug_Hannon5 жыл бұрын
I specifically waited to buy FIFA on Switch because I liked the idea of popping in for a quick match when commuting or doing laundry, etc. Also, I don't have 4 ps4 controllers like I do Switch controllers (because Smash), and I knew my friend group would be into playing local multiplayer. But then, I read reviews and found out the game was a half-assed port of the previous year's game that was missing key gameplay upgrades and decided not to buy it. If they actually made a GOOD FIFA game for Switch, I would likely buy it.
@cbennett_125 жыл бұрын
And it doesn't have to be the exact same game as the Frostbite engine version. Instead of having half an ultimate team, a five year old career mode, an outdated engine, why not try something different?
@diallo13475 жыл бұрын
"Everybody's Norman Reedus" best quote of the show
@Longy045 жыл бұрын
Loving the video game art on the walls, any chance we could see the whole piece without the tv obscuring it? Also I didn't know about the Twitch Prime deal with NSO, will be good to know I can extend my current subscription to play Super Mario Maker 2 for a while longer.
@SofaSpy5 жыл бұрын
My Neighbor had a PlayStation 2 and a PlayStation remote and she used it as a DVD player. Mind you she was in her 60s at the time
@LeatherneckJedi5 жыл бұрын
I thought Tina was talking about California Disney Adventure!...the arcade thing makes much more sense. 🤷♂️
@MrJonnybmxer435 жыл бұрын
Are you guys using Audio Technica's?
@seanmedlin90145 жыл бұрын
You need PS plus and internet connection to see dark souls player messages on ps4
@VGJunky5 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite Scoop lineup
@MisteMiner5 жыл бұрын
Needs 25% more Altano
@VGJunky5 жыл бұрын
@@MisteMiner I get enough of him on Beyond, I think that the group dynamic works pretty well like this - everybody is a little more low key (taking control of conversations less)
@iceman3339335 жыл бұрын
Pokemon Yellow was on your greatest games list too
@crustyjuggleruk5 жыл бұрын
Haven't looked into this. Just considered it now. Is the multiplayer hades? Like, the soldiers that you walk past? Are they playing a tdm?
@chriswy6975 жыл бұрын
To the guy that wrote in, from Wikipedia: Gamecube LAN games Nintendo published three racing games with LAN multiplayer modes: 1080° Avalanche, Kirby Air Ride, and Mario Kart: Double Dash!!.[28] When playing over a LAN, multiple systems can be connected through a shared ethernet hub or two systems can be connected directly to one another with a cross cable.[29] 1080° Avalanche and Kirby Air Ride support up to four players across four consoles. If two consoles are used, up to two players can play on each system. If three or four consoles are used, only one player may play per system.[30][31] For Mario Kart, up to 16 players can play simultaneously across eight consoles, with two players controlling each kart. Also the Japan-only game Homeland: The game can be played offline in single-player mode, or online in multiplayer mode over the Internet or on a LAN.
@5thlion5 жыл бұрын
Mustache an Tina are bangin
@squiddly0075 жыл бұрын
Some of the levels that people create on Mario Maker 2 are genius. How they work out how to put them together is amazing. More games need level creators in them. I had an idea years ago that if COD had one they could run a competition where they pick the best user created map every month and it gets added to the roster.
@USMCbrantley5 жыл бұрын
Sam is right about PS2 reason was cause of that DVD player. Funny story about a friend: He got the PS2 so he can play Everquest with his dad. In the end after finally figuring out they couldn't play together; his dad says, "Well, at least we got a new DVD player." My friend didn't get in to his ps2 til FFX, Dax, and Rachet and Clank. Being a Nintendo person, and with the internet still kinda new to 10 year olds, you could easly picture my "seriously Nintendo..." face when I got a Gamecube instead of PS2. SO mad it couldn't play DVDs lols!
@WikTendoMania5 жыл бұрын
Woah!! This is the first time that NVC and Game scoop touch topics so similarly. Examples: - Bethesda's bet on the Switch while EA is making excuses - How the Walkman is not around at all anymore - How people used to call any gaming console a "Nintendo". And that is totally ok with me :) ^^
@WardenFG5 жыл бұрын
Precisely when I needed it! Scoop!
@BrokenNoah5 жыл бұрын
Claiborn isn't dismissive this episode as normal. Automatically made the podcast a bit better.
@7thsaga6625 жыл бұрын
For the teacher, Virtua Racing by SEGA AM2 is up to 8 players on 1 screen. Unfortunately, you MUST use joycons.
@gregcord38865 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a banging hangover but your voices are like honey in my ears ;) lol
@icehulk25 жыл бұрын
That's funny. I'm like Daemon. I can't play games in broad daylight. That's why i plag more games during fall and winter.
@jasongott10945 жыл бұрын
This is the best combo on Scoop for sure.
@5thlion5 жыл бұрын
Growing up my grandma called every system I had Nintendo
@fresquecito5 жыл бұрын
Lol same here in Spanish. Also 'tiki-tiki'
@5thlion5 жыл бұрын
@@fresquecito lol same here
@aaronjones67985 жыл бұрын
I think of cancelling my PS+ subscription from time to time, as it simply adds more games to my gaming backlog and that I primarily play single player games, so 90% of the time I don't use multiplayer. A bit surprised you didn't speculate on how well the PS5 could sell, considering how well the PS4 has.
@USMCbrantley5 жыл бұрын
I've kinda hope for Apex on Switch honestly...
@patskink14514 жыл бұрын
12:57 the PS2 didn't hit $99 until 2009 and was discontinued in January 2013 so I would say it was $99 for a super long time!
@johnny051005 жыл бұрын
Mario tennis IS great! Good call
@mreurovisionau5 жыл бұрын
EA has never supported Nintendo systems well, noted for developing primarily for Sega in the 16 bit days. Eventually a few sports games arrived to the SNES, and that was it. N64 got FIFA 64, and what else? So the story continues. PS2 definitely benefited from its DVD capability as it was infamous at time for The Matrix being the biggest selling launch title. Yep, a movie on DVD, not a game. I bought Independence Day on DVD with my PS2. Don't forget, the PS2 could launch nuclear missiles too.
@Max-_-Power.75 жыл бұрын
Since 64 nintendo has had big issues with 3rd party because of there choice 2 use different and weaker hardwar or disc based formats.
@mattbparrish5655 жыл бұрын
Wish they’d bring back Skate!!! 😔
@TheVidzWatcher5 жыл бұрын
You've been saying that about the PS4 since launch day!
@marks88985 жыл бұрын
No wonder the circuit failed, it says "made in Japan". What do you mean doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan. Unbelievable!
@Ruhul6125 жыл бұрын
Why is it whenever I watch 21 questions no body tries to nail down developer and genre fast enough lol?
@jimmyjay6895 жыл бұрын
U can combine Gameboy/Gameboy Color sales, but not PS4 + PS4 Pro sales??🤔same with the multiple different types of 3ds's...
@SofaSpy5 жыл бұрын
If that's the case we should also count the GameCube, Wii and wii U since the Wii is just an overclocked GameCube and the Wii u is an overclocked wii. All can run the same games with no problem excluding physical limitations
@USMCbrantley5 жыл бұрын
See I hate physical goes away cause I usually always trade in or sell a game that I didn't really like, I'm satisfy with the experience I had with the game, or it's been so long since I touch it.
@lsl945 жыл бұрын
Fire Emblem is certainly 'haunting my wakening hours'
@nintendad81685 жыл бұрын
I never play Mario tennis but tennis aces is awesome
@glungusgongus5 жыл бұрын
I like her voice like thos tbh.
@USMCbrantley5 жыл бұрын
You could round at least 25% of that drop from PS+ to contribute to sign ups for Xbox Ultimate and being ready for a more robust streaming of games with Microsoft. A company that is still more familiar then Google in the gaming space.
@wolf990005 жыл бұрын
Problem fir MS that's not happening reading Sony boards most don't find value in psn right now with the free games not pulling in certain gamers but they do find value in PlayStation now which sub base has been rising big time this year since they allowed downloading games most of the drop just moved there
@USMCbrantley5 жыл бұрын
SCOOP! Twitch Prime nets you a full year free! The first 3 is through Twitch, and the rest of the 9 months is through Amazon.
@Ichsukatanuka5 жыл бұрын
Tina's raspy voice 🥰
@davidstring83015 жыл бұрын
Spoiler I didn't know there was a Super R-Type either until I found one at the thrift store last weekend
@LloydNance5 жыл бұрын
Tina is the best. SCOOP!
@KamixSam5 жыл бұрын
Guys fire emblem is that game I can’t put down. I’ve woken up early all week just to play it lol
@gamer21015 жыл бұрын
I have never played a fire emblem game so I was a little hesitant. Man I can’t stop playing it. It’s amazing. It’s definitely one of my favorite games ever. I absolutely love it.
@KamixSam5 жыл бұрын
Loni Rowell I’m so glad more ppl are playing fire emblem now! This is such a fantastic game! I hope the scoop crew give it a try :) it’s definitely a GOTY contender for me
@Mando446465 жыл бұрын
PS+ isn't worth it anymore. The price keeps going up and we only get 1/3 of the games we used to get. I don't play online, so why would I pay for it?
@sean1987225 жыл бұрын
Seems like your reasons are spot on...free games are usually meh sometimes good, but if u don't play online not a great value at all
@VGJunky5 жыл бұрын
I've always seen it as an online service with bonus games, not free games with a bonus online service. If you stop paying for it you lose your PS+ library, so you're also buying in to keeping that library available
@VGJunky5 жыл бұрын
Also PS+ provides additional discounts if you tend to buy digitally during their sales
@redsstan68635 жыл бұрын
I can't wait until Gamestop is closed so that sales reports are true and pre owned games aren't counted out.
@TehThxsis5 жыл бұрын
* Video game twenty questions theme song plays * Damon: Ask your questions Nobody: Justin: Is it battle toadsy?
@thunderwood5 жыл бұрын
TehThxsis Daemon
@hmood075 жыл бұрын
I love these guys but sometimes I think they don't give PS4 and Sony enough credit especially Sam.
@user-yo9xs8tl5o5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. They straight up downplayed PS4 hitting the 100m sold and setting a new record reaching it the quickest. Don't know why they negative on sony sometimes.
@jaythomas4685 жыл бұрын
I love the Switch myself but sometimes it seems Sam and Justin’s heads are buried so deep in Nintendo’s ass, they can’t even see their own slight bias.
@killerdude355 жыл бұрын
@@jaythomas468 1000 percent agreed! Sam, Justin, and Destin Legary are by far my least favorite personalities on IGN because they are by far the least impartial.
@mooreoz58515 жыл бұрын
As long as Tina is here, so am I ;)
@MisteMiner5 жыл бұрын
Wish there were timestamps for this
@Max-_-Power.75 жыл бұрын
U guys and girl missed a major point with ea switch.ONLINE most big third party games have big online features.If switch cannot run mario maker co op they have no chance on big 3rd party games.Game scoop is my number 1 pod cast by a county kilometer.
@wolf990005 жыл бұрын
Psn membership is down because of a few reasons one is people think the free games right are not worth it and if you look PS now membership has gone up because people see more value there
@melindamontgomery93375 жыл бұрын
Of course Digital sales surpassed physical copies. Because now they don’t really offer us a choice,digital is the only option. Also I love PS4 way more than PS3.
@Max-_-Power.75 жыл бұрын
On indie games yes.I dont know how much of sales they makeup.
@nikdamore8 ай бұрын
20 Questions 54:54
@rockon18205 жыл бұрын
Splatoon 2 is amazing!
@JustinR9415 жыл бұрын
The new Switch means developers won't make games that require you to use the controllers separately. So that whole feature is gone. The HD rumble.
@bradcuster5 жыл бұрын
Bring back the dream team . . . Damon, Justin, Sam and CJ!
@matthewnichols66875 жыл бұрын
Anthem would be an easy port to the switch because its an empty game!
@jonathan80875 жыл бұрын
_Hiiiiyyyyyoooo_
@joshrogers66695 жыл бұрын
Buh duh puh ttsssss
@Max-_-Power.75 жыл бұрын
No chance empty on game play not environment lots of trees.
@joshrogers66695 жыл бұрын
@Jason C I never made it to the end game admittedly but nothing about it really grabbed me. The loot wasn't really good enough or varied enough to keep me motivated to keep me playing. You are right though, environments do look fantastic. It does really pop. Again though for me personally a looter shooter needs loot that varies widely in look (though not as important) and different enough stat wise to match different playstyle. Something I think The Division 2 does way better. Granted the flying is awesome but during my time with Anthem that aspect wasnt enough to keep me invested. I'll say for me personally, and I know a lot of people weren't crazy about the division 2 but I would much rather put the time I do have to play into The Division 2.
@jdotco235 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad Justin is talking up Mario Maker 2. This game is so stinking brilliant, but I think people are glossing over it because it's another Mario game and it's so close to the original Mario Maker game. That does NOT mean it can't be a Game of the Year, because it absolutely is the best game of the year so far....I've heard you talked up Mario Tennis, Tina! I'm listening, lol. You're a prime reason I've played that game. Also, please tell Damon to keep bringing you on the show....It's so mind-boggling that Plants v. Zombies, Sims and other similar games haven't been ported, because I totally would rebuy PvZ them on the Switch. EA is ridiculous....I never had a Game Boy until the Advance, and it wasn't I played Metroid Prime (my first Metroid game) when I decided to go find a Game Boy to play Metroid II. That game is so good and so frustrating at the same time! ... I'm thinking I should buy R-Type on Switch....Once Upon A Time In Hollywood wasn't good to me. Anyway, great show.
@jimmyjay6895 жыл бұрын
PS4 still has many exclusives and Cyber Punk coming....Nintendo can have Pokemon...lol
@TjaVideos5 жыл бұрын
we gladly take Smash too! Cyber Punk is overhyped, will be 20 bucks in 3 months.
@TjaVideos5 жыл бұрын
@Rosencrantz Agree/disagree, couple months ago they had discount on their own Switch games. But that stuff happens once a year or so... ports or not, good games on the go.
@remylebaou15 жыл бұрын
Tina A Meanie 😍
@marctut5 жыл бұрын
You wouldnt say that a Porsche 718 is a crappier Porsche compared to the more expensive Panamera because the 718 is cheaper, lacks back doors for family functionality, and doesn't have all the luxury features of the Panamera. Buyers of the 718 do not care about those things but they do care about raw sportscar performance without the 911 price. The Switch Lite deletes the features that handheld-only gamers do not care about and adds the performance features that we do (smaller/pocket-able and a d-pad). It's a no brainer for me who hasn't docked my Switch since BotW released (why would I when I have much more powerful gaming platforms at home) and only use my Switch on the go or in bed.
@G_Rad_Ski5 жыл бұрын
Did Sam just spoil the end of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Come on man. Hope it was a joke but regardless.
@vonbleak1015 жыл бұрын
The switch just really is not very powerful so games like Anthem and Battlefield 1 i doubt would even run - or at least they would have to downgrade them an awfull lot... I love the idea of the switch but i just wish is was at least as powerful (in docked mode at least) as a xbone, then it could at least run all the current gen games...
@johnrudowski49745 жыл бұрын
Same. I only have a switch for exclusives that I can't get on ps4
@jimmyjay6895 жыл бұрын
No more Vita games or PS3 games on Ps Plus...hence the less # of subscribers
@dtg37385 жыл бұрын
I agree this is likely why there was a bit of drop. People who only have ps vita and/or ps3 no longer have much use for ps plus except cloud saves (I think?)
@boochtron5 жыл бұрын
@@dtg3738 i don't know if i agree with that. but i don't have another explanation. do people care about ps3 and vita game anymore?
@fabienzaca5 жыл бұрын
I do for PS Vita especially
@wolf990005 жыл бұрын
Yeah some don't see the value do have moved to PlayStation now which Sony said gas boomed in new subs this year wish Sony would do a deal where you buy a year of psn and get psnow built in sucks it's a spearheaded sub for both it will turn back when ps5 comes out and they go back 2 2 free ps5 games and 2 PS4 games
@wolf990005 жыл бұрын
boochtron it was more the value of the games offered than caring about the games but I for one still play PS3 and 360 till all games are backwards compatible and I will still play PS3 4 360 and one when the new ones come out
@PAIN007NAGATO5 жыл бұрын
these guys need to remember what is comming for ps4 this year and next year Kojima Death stranding Final Fantasy 7 remake and Persona 5 Royal ,Ghost of tsushima ,Last of us 2 ,Dreams ,Concrete genie,medievil, Predator, Project Awekning ,and 14 games from china like lost souls aside.....and shitload of VR granblue fantasy no need for you to worry fastest selling home console awards goes to Ps4 as for the list above 4or 5 games at least are system sellers Best Jrpg of all time rings a bell
@laverdieremath5 жыл бұрын
Wooooaaaa since when have they started filming again??
@ghasfarost5 жыл бұрын
Sam has a very low impressions of what the Switch can run. It is a freaking tablet but come on!
@Kaleb_SMILE5 жыл бұрын
40 hours in 5 days? I played KH3 for 30 hours in 2 days
@jimmyjay6895 жыл бұрын
Why is there an urge for old ports on a new console? The Vita had multiple PS2 ports, no one cared...lol...but everyone is calling for 7 year old games on the Switch?
@crashpal5 жыл бұрын
hypocrisy at best
@CorranHorn845 жыл бұрын
EA probably can't take advantage of its loot box, micro-transaction schemes on a Nintendo system... especially with Nintendo's track record of online play.
@face765 жыл бұрын
No professor Sam look today. Sam so disappointed. Sam should start the show off like Mr Rogers like when he changed into a sweater. Sam should have to put on a blazer with elbow patches. Lol Funny how we went from a studio for the videos to no videos to videos returning to a small room back to a studio for videos. Again thanks for the videos. Remember Zach said it woUld be better withouT the videos. So wrong he was.
@MR-gold-VR-b6j5 жыл бұрын
I just want to marry Tina....
@sclark68075 жыл бұрын
If the trade tariffs continue with China, and the next gen is going to have an price hike. Ps4 will have a good chance to be the best selling.
@jimmyjay6895 жыл бұрын
Good point
@bigdb47555 жыл бұрын
I know Nintendo is looking in South Korea for Manufacturing. Sony is probably doing the same.
@danwong21915 жыл бұрын
Tina's voice. Lol sultry
@colmcoakley39165 жыл бұрын
Switch probably can't run Frostbite. Fifa 18 & 19 on Switch are ports of older PS3 and XBox 360 versions with updated player rosters
@glungusgongus5 жыл бұрын
Why can't it.
@colmcoakley39165 жыл бұрын
@@glungusgongus The Tegra 1 chipset and GPU just aren't powerful enough. In fairness alot of EA's own studios can't manage frostbite properly
@joshrogers66695 жыл бұрын
Anyone else ever get into a gaming rut (for lack of a better word)? I have TONS of games I haven't got around to playing yet but I just can't get psyched to play. It's like when you are hungry but NOTHING sounds good to eat. While I was at work I couldn't wait to get home kick back and play but right now I'm just meh. I guess I am more worried about it being a sign of some kind of depression. Anyone else get that way with gaming? Don't get me wrong I don't think I am miserable. I mean just because I am not into gaming right now I just don't sit and do nothing. I have a small art studio in my apartment that I have been spending a lot of time in lately. I know it sounds weird but I miss being excited about gaming, yet I can't get motivated to play. :-(
@marklindsey61755 жыл бұрын
This happens to me all the time. I find it really beneficial to take a break every once in awhile. Also when I get the feeling of obligation to play a game instead of enjoyment I just stop playing it and sell it. I finally let go of the need to finish every game. :-) Honestly, taking a break might really renew your passion for it. Have a good one!
@joshrogers66695 жыл бұрын
@@marklindsey6175 Thanks for the reply man. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I do that all the time. Buy a game to realize I'm not that crazy about it but feel like I gotta finish it. I'm going to try and get rid of that habit. Thanks again for the advice!
@aaronbr3115 жыл бұрын
We must own our stuff and not let it own us :) I’m sure a game will come along that sucks you in again. If not, play Celeste! Or don’t and that’s okay too.
@joshrogers66695 жыл бұрын
@@aaronbr311 No doubt. Funny thing is Celeste was actually one of the games on my back log I was considering trying out. I haven't gotten around to it quite yet but I will for sure. At some point also I really want to try Dead Cells. That looked really good also.
@BrokenSocialScene235 жыл бұрын
People aren't frothing over the PS4 sales because the PS4 has become a staple console. It's like bread. Nintendo is like a snack. The reason why people are always shocked about Nintendo sales is because Nintendo is strictly a "toy". They're also always on the brink of failure. I'm not downplaying the success of the PS4 -- I own one -- but it's one explanation. Nobody had a personal agenda against Sony as some commenters are implying.
@jimmyjay6895 жыл бұрын
Switch hasnt had competition....the consoles were 4 years old when it released...things will change with new hardware...
@7thsaga6625 жыл бұрын
No Justin, I'm not buying the EA comment on Switch. SSX Tricky, SSX 3, Freakstyle, NBA Street series, and Dead Space 1, 2 and Extraction would all do well on Switch
@bigdb47555 жыл бұрын
I would love SSX Tricky, but also 3 Mass Effect and Dragon Age games from last gen.
@7thsaga6625 жыл бұрын
@@bigdb4755 hell yes! Those would definitely work as well.
@xgem81705 жыл бұрын
The Ps4 is on par with the VHS player, when the newer more "advanced" version of the same function comes out (DVD player) The Ps4 will be collecting dust in our closets.
@andrewmalone1825 жыл бұрын
I'm not renewing my ps+ as I'm not getting a ps5
@AnglefanGaming5 жыл бұрын
I think switch will be ok. It is not as good as the other options out there but it always is ok because it's Nintendo. I think Nintendo should just license the library and fade away
@TheTubulartube5 жыл бұрын
not as good graphically - but that sweet sweet portability has it as my fav console right now. I rarely play the ole ps4 anymore, and play switcharino daily. Its my preferred console by a mile right now.
@KingCoin5 жыл бұрын
What benefit would they have from licensing, when they can be a platform holder (30% cut from 3rd party) and not split the profits of their own 1st party games which sell extremely well?
@effincasuals88775 жыл бұрын
PS plus is garbage now,only 2 games a month,its not worth it
@04145582415 жыл бұрын
Tina's baaaaccckkkkk
@jimmyjay6895 жыл бұрын
The Switch isnt on the same sales pace...face it...
@bigdb47555 жыл бұрын
Nintendo is the fastest selling console of all time. If it can maintain the run is the real question.
@Awesome_Force5 жыл бұрын
PS2 sold 2 to 4 consoles to its customers because it was faulty and continually broke more than any other console. Sony was even succesfully sued over the PS2 in a class action suit. Sony can brag that the PS2 was so unreliable that people needed multiples of them because they were garbage. Everyone I know IRL that owned a PS2 had to buy at least 2 or 3 of them.