Exactly this. Stigma around mental disabilities or illness has taken a life on its own, that often even seems to lean into eugenics. It is quite saddening to see.

Obviously the problem is not mental illness on the whole. The problem is that that very small percentage of mentally ill people who are prone to violence can purchase firearms without having their backgrounds checked

As someone with bipolar it’s really hard having people automatically think I’m insane. There’s still a lot that isn’t known about personality disorders and mood disorders. It’s generally understood but mental illness is so stigmatized the second someone hears “schizophrenia “ they think the person isn’t able to be helped.

@@beckybunny7834 Perceiving a chronic illness as a defect, flaw or inhuman trait, is a detriment to all. The sad and bitter irony is that people who utilize that judgement in such a destructive manner, are exactly guilty of what they fear within a diagnosis as such.

@@beckybunny7834 Try have ADHD/Autism. People wear that as a aesthetic badge.

Agree, I am diagnosed with mental health and if I am completely honest, we can be deceiving... sometimes intentionally, sometimes not BUT someone with rational and clear thinking needs to make the decisions if the person can't regardless of what they are displaying and most especially if they are calling a hot line or presenting in an Er etc.

I work in an ER and the one thing I’ll say that even if someone reaches out the help is not always available. Sadly, if you don’t have insurance resources are limited. I work in a suburban ER and if an uninsured person needs mental health services they can wait in the ER for up to 24 hours until we can get a bed for them. Which is not safe or productive for them. Unfortunately some states, I live in Texas, are cutting funds for mental health drastically right now.

Actually the documentary 77 Minutes has many many photos of the victims including interviews with friends and family as well as interviews with survivors and some of the press and law enforcement that were there that day. It’s readily available and completely worth the watch.

@@playnicechannel thank you, I’m going to watch it right now.

Or the dad who covered his kids friend while the mom covered the son. The mom and son died. Or the two old people walking right in.... or how the documentary is called 75 minutes.... it's ridiculous.

I agree with this, too.

Certainly we all agree this man should have never been born.

There is footage showing the immediate aftermath of the shooting. Quite an unbelievable scene. Despite the graphic nature, it is actually on KZfaq

@@goldzior1128 theres a documentary about it that shows the news footage of the tragedy and the aftermath you can find on tubi and most free sites it's a rough watch though as I think you see the body of the youngest victim.

@@goldzior1128 VERY easy to find the photos of this event. Google carefully if you don't wish to see 'em.

@Art of War Arm Wrestling tell that to the dead and their families.

Just because Uvalde cops were laughably incompetent doesn’t mean every cop at every mass shooting is also incompetent. The cops here definitely weren’t expecting, trained or equipped to respond to this and this is reflected by the fact that one of the victims initially thought the shooting was a joke. It was a different time. They did what they could.

@Art of War Arm Wrestling how about sneak up to the building and pop up or wait and blast em . Do soldiers wait? I bet a civilian with a weapon would not cower 100yards away

Believe it or not, police have zero legal obligation to save you in a situation like this.

@@rdhmdk right so there useless send someone whos not to get it done

i can confirm it takes a minute for that Zoloft because I was on it, stopped and felt the benefit it had given me for months before the reason I needed the Zoloft showed back up, now I'm back on it and doing better. getting the meds we need shouldnt be so tough

@@groobs every body is definitely different! I remember going off Prozac (like an idiot, I thought I could do fine without it), and for two weeks felt completely fine, then like clockwork an atomic bomb of depression dropped on me exactly two weeks later. My Dr told me that it takes several weeks for SSRIs to leave the body, and because of that some people (like myself) don’t feel the difference right away. And YES it shouldn’t be so hard for people to get the meds they need!!! Nor should they be so expensive. I am so glad you are doing well, keep going with the meds and taking care of yourself ♥️♥️

@@theradical_reesie_d591 mine was because my doc wanted me to try something else to try and get at my anxiety too and so we were gonna switch me off Zoloft anyway, well the new thing didn't help it made it worse and my tummy was acting up so much I just stopped taking anything and fell off course, I really should have told my doc that the new meds weren't good and I want my old again but I didn't feel I had it in me to say what I needed to say. I wanted to trust the process and I did still need help, but yea months go by and I really start to feel the improvement that I'd had slipped and so I had to go all over again and I'm doing okay ish now lol

Thank you for this comment. I had the same reaction to hearing that he'd suddenly lost Valium that you had. I must take benzodiazepines for sleep, and have for twenty years. I have been able to cut my dose, but I will need them as long as I live. Heather Ashton was a British physician whose expertise was in benzodiazepine withdrawal. The Ashton Manual is, as far as I know, still online for free download. Dr Ashton, being aware of how addictive benzodiazepines are, allows two years or more for the most habitual user to wean down. As I say, I need them because of a medical condition, so I will not be withdrawing. But an appreciation of what a disaster it can be to suddenly withdraw a benzodiazepine from a long term user is much needed in society ( and by some doctors ), and I thank you again for your comment.

@@bobtaylor170 there was absolutely no excuse for this carnage

Anyone remember the Macdonald's commercials running at the time ? It was a series of ads depicting people having a " BIG MAC ATTACK " . Needless to say , the ads were pulled shortly after this tragedy .

Huh?

His ghost tried to sue Micky D's? Derrrrr

I think his wife tried to sue mcdonalds

Like Ronald himself held her husband hostage and forced Big Macs and fries down his throat. People who blame everyone else for their own problems really piss me off. And this coming from the one person who actually had the opportunity to stop him. But no, after he says he's going to hunt humans strapped with guns and ammo the wife and kid do what...absolutely nothing!

is it "Jiles" or Giles?

Wow my condolences to her

Liar🙄

@@Lenasevilla-yb4ei why would i lie about something like that..i got better things to be doing with my time

He’s a coward and Piece of sh*t but those police are even worse utterly useless and this is why many in the US would rather attempt to defend themselves in a crime rather than wait or rely on them..

Seriously, i agree wholeheartedly he was a coward i could never imagine hurting innocent people let alone children. As a staunch gun rights supporter i truly wish someone was in that mcdonalds that day legally carrying so they could have neutralized the threat before he was able to hurt as many people as he did. The whole reason i have a license to carry and keep a 9mm with a standard 20 round magazine + 1 in the chamber and a back 20 rounder is that i am never a victim again( i was almost killed on two separate occasions when i was 16 and 20) or a future victim of a mass shooting. In a perfect world guns and violent humans wouldnt exist, but they do(and you can blame the chinese for the guns).. And even we banned every gun tomorrow we would never be able to be a gin free society because of how many are in existence and the ability and knowledge to make them wont go anywhere. So criminals and dangerous people will always have them, its gonna take good people with a good heart and the training and skill to stop evil in its tracks.

And after hearing how a sniper took him out, smh. He didnt deserve to die that easy, he earned himself a brutal long death but was sadly given a quick one..

@@kyleam288 You have this problem in the US because you are a society of gun freaks. Good luck with that.

@@kyleam288 Did you listen to the story? There were plenty of armed trained cops there and they still took almost an hour and a half to stop him. If a gun is powerful enough to have police scared like that then regular civilians shouldn't be allowed to have them. Its that simple..

Agree with everything you said. Born in 1978, as well.

My son was born in 1981 and when he was four we drove by a McDonalds and saw a taxi entering the drive through. He said "He's going in there to kill people." I assured him that was not the case but was surprised at how much he had picked up from the TV news.

I was born in 74 and it was also the first mass shooting I ever heard of and the reality of just going about your day and a gunman coming in and shooting people. Sadly it seems to happen more often now than it did back then. I was not aware of the slow police response time though, that makes it even sadder. I always thought it happened in a couple of minutes, not 77 minutes. That's horrific.

For some police, the whole "protect and serve" thing is just an inconvenience to get a neat badge and authority over others

@@Mildain2000 they’re there to serve the law and protect government property and businesses

strange seeing your comment on here lol but yes this case was very disturbing :(

@@CC_Mila 😜

@@Bubba__Sawyer Well, not strange just surprised. She's a youtuber I watch.

Not really

@@StuffedBearSus I can see why you would say that and you're right. I meant those people that were mentioned in the video who used their bodies to protect children and other loved ones.

@Thou Swell Maybe ask everyone else and see how many already knew about this shooting. It's sad that there are so many in this country that something this massive wouldn't be more written or talked about.

I agree. She milked her 15 minutes of infamy. Despicable couple.

I remember being told as a kid that the sniper was so precise because they delayed his arrival despite having multiple chances to get Huberty. Clearly, they wanted a particular marksman to kill the bad guy for PR purposes/Direct angle into the most vulnerable position for the kill.

I thought rush hour traffic was the excuse the police used for not arriving sooner than they did. Didn't stop news crews from getting there.

They had not protocol for this type of shooting, they primarily dealt with standoffs.

These are regular men and woman you're talking about. They're not super heroes. If you think you'd do any different when put into their position then by all means go ahead. But no, you're nothing but a coward who would gladly call the police in the event of an emergency.

@@emailjustinbyrd a regular person with a pistol would of gone in, stop making excuses for these cowards, 🤡.

I’m pretty sure police aren’t actually obligated to protect. Best hope that one of the first responding is a Marine, they will run towards gunfire and neutralize it.

@@emailjustinbyrd "These are regular men and women..." who were supposed to have been trained, but never were.

I always found it so vapid and elitist to state who should have been born or not. He was human, a product of his environment, as are we all. Not even to mention how the instances that were supposed to help, had utterly failed at doing so.

Circumstantial evidence points to a common motivation for mass shootings in the US, which is racism (as mentioned in this video). Of course, this killer didn’t leave behind a screed or manifesto explicitly spelling this out, as has happened in many other cases

Not even to mention, that dehumananizing people and deciding who should live or not, is the exact reason such killers are detested. Making that "analysis" quite the bitter and hypocritical joke.

The vast majority of people he shot seemed to have been hispanic, so I wouldn't assume that this wasn't racially motivated.

I think it was racist! He took mostly Hispanics lives. I think he did it at this certain spot and time for a reason! Regardless, he was a sick sick sick, gross, disturbing man!

It's so sad. Just the details of this case are overwhelming. I saw a 2-hour documentary about this and they went into detailed stories and descriptions of what the victims were doing that day, some of their backgrounds. Almost like character development in a movie or something. So when the incident is finally covered, it hits that much harder. Especially the story of two young boys. One of them I believe was an immigrant and couldn't speak English and the other boy was white and I guess welcomed him with open arms as soon as his family moved to the neighborhood. They became best friends even through the language barrier. They rode bikes and hung out every day. I think one of them was killed and the other survived. Probably Middle School aged? I saw this 5 or 6 years ago so I don't remember the exact details but it was horrible

Check out William Bonin. His is worse, imo.

Somebody's reply was censored. I'd like to know what it was

@@sebastiandingleswitch3757 i just read it. wtf, how could he be let out time and time again

@@Imarriedmydog prolly them posting the link of the crime scene video of the event

…so unthinkable, that the scenario was essentially replayed at the Uvalde, Texas school shooting last month

@@gregbors8364 Exactly! No lessons learned from past history..

@@gregbors8364 exactly my thoughts...

I agree. She was as repulsive as the monster who she couldn’t shut up about until the media moved on.

Right he just started killing anything that moved

so you havent encountered many of them

Amen haha it’s statistically proven we are more likely to be the victims in such violence

The same is true of traumatic brain injury, which I've had since I was seven. My neurologist dropped me in December, so I have been without a neurologist since. Here's hoping we find the help we need.

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💖 I'm glad you're still here, I hope you have found a better coping mechanism friend.

Your comment made me cry. I can relate.

She has a demon

...as long as people stay on their meds....but they don't do they? That's the problem and this fucker wasn't a schizo, just the typical loser man blaming the world for his failings. It is rare for REAL schizophrenics to be violent. He just had the usual 'I'm a white man and the world owes me" syndrome.

Why should we de stigmitize a thing that makes people kill others. NO we shuld shun it and keep people safe.

it’s one thing to hide it, it’s a whole other thing to flaunt it, as your friend is doing. why are you surprised people act the way they do towards people with schizophrenia? genuinely, how does that surprise you? you can be upset but the evidence is abundant as to why people have this stigma towards that mental illness. it’s not freaking adhd, it has the potential we see in this video, when not taken care of. don’t be dense.

I doubt the mass shooter had schizophrenia. He sounds like a textbook psychopath who conveniently enjoyed suddenly “hearing voices.” He and his wife never blamed themselves for anything.

Midnight here.

@@moosenbeans903 3pm in Toronto lol

230 in California

Seriously this is one of my biggest fears for some reason. I have nightmares about it all the time, that I'm in a mass shooting and my 2yo is scared and crying and him getting killed over it, and I used to have the same nightmares about my daughter years ago when she was a baby too. Now that I'm watching this video and being reminded of this case I'm thinking that this fear may have originally come from this case. I listen to a lot of true crime but cases like this are just too much for me

@@BriEMcN any crimes against children really make me physically ill. My kids are 9,18,21 now, the only thing that gives me a sense of peace is that we live in Australia. We don’t have the worries the USA has, but what happens there affects all of us too mentally. My whole family was absolutely shook with the last shooting that happened. We may be on the other side of the world but as humans with compassion what goes on there affects our mental too. RIP to those innocent souls 🙏🏻 I pray the USA gets their 💩 together

You are very lucky to be an Aussie and not an American...what I would do to move to Australia and live out the res of my life in peace and happiness

This was massive global news at the time, including in Australia. It shocked a lot of people, including 10 to 16 year olds because we used to ride our BMX bikes to McDonalds. The picture of the dead 11 year old boy next to his bike ( Omar) was on front page of every major newspaper, and led news bulletins. Anyone who was over about 10 years old in July 84 even outside of USA probably remembers this. It was before the mass shootings in Australia, starting a few years later and well before Columbine. It scared and shocked tf out of many people at the time.

SAME! I freaked out a few years back when I was waiting for my order in San Ysidro with my son. Immediately started Googling and was absolutely relieved to know that the massacre location was torn down and was actually a few blocks away. Can't believe the owners audacity to attempt to open 2 days later. The greed indeed🤦🏾‍♀️

I was born in 1990, but I have a friend who’s in her early 70’s. To this day she exclusively goes through drive-throughs.

But please don’t go to mc Donalds😂😂😂. Y’all don’t let this joke flop

Thank you!

Yes that’s where I saw it too on robs channel …. But yes this is a really good covering too

This applies, as well, to people such as I, who have traumatic brain injuries. But then, people have a reflexive reaction that people with TBIs might be dangerous in their own way. This is ridiculous.

But addicts are mentally ill 😩. It’s really an issue when addicts are looked at as not mentally ill. We’re taking two steps forward and ten back with that thinking. It makes more sense to say non drug addicted mentally ill ppl.

@@Januaryjenkins yes and no.. treating addiction is also a medical issue..

And drug induced psychosis without an underlying condition is not classed as mental illness in Australia at least.. there is a lot of binge drug use which is more associated with ice and things like that

He’s the Devil not ILL

Theres a documentary on tubi tv called 77 minutes. They show the raw video. Sad af

Do you have a link for the pics??

Look up: 'Leak Launch' "1984 san ysidro McDonald's massacre crime scene footage" It's the raw crime scene video footage. I apologize for not having the link. It's age restricted so I'm assuming that's why the link isn't readily available

@@heavyc9745 but let me just say like fair warning you don't want to watch the video. you think you want to watch the video but take my word for it you really don't want to watch the video...

@@sickmanuel that was so sad. The documentary itself was amazing but like I think that's what makes it so heartbreaking is how well it was documented in that film.

There was no such thing as active shooter training back then, protocol was to set up a perimeter wait for SWAT or negotiate. We have the benefit of hindsight and I think that gets lost on alot of people. Especially when the victims evoke such raw emotions i.e. children.

That's a joke Close to 2 decades prior to the McDonald's massacre. A military trained sharp shooter, barricaded himself in the Tower at the University of Texas. The incident lasted longer, but it wasn't because of a mixture of incompetence and cowardice like the shooting in San Diego. Numerous officers and civilians risked, and some lost their lives trying to save others. They constantly engaged the shooter drawing his fire to drag the wounded to safety, eventually entering the tower and taking him out. And there was fundamental training for dealing with all types of scenarios, including the one at McDonald's. They had the building surrounded but refused to breach, and that's in spite of the fact they were told by those who escaped he wasn't taking hostages, soley murdering people, they knew full well any wounded inside would bleed out, if they didn't take immediate action. There were at least 150 cops on the scene, yet they left the unarmed men, women and children at the mercy of a sadistic degenerate. The fact that they were called out for lying by the survivors says it all. Whether it was Columbine, Sandy Hook, the Gabrielle Gifford shooting in Tucson, even Uvalde. All of those shootings had unarmed civilians either challenging the shooters, or running into the direction of the gunfire to save others. Some live others didn't. There's zero excuse for those in a position to help doing nothing. The first cop on the scene talked having an inadequate weapon. A claim I don't dispute, but imagine how the unarmed people in McDonald's who could only use their bodies to shield their loved ones felt. Don't wear a badge and uniform if you're not willing to sacrifice in the service of others.

⁠​⁠@@shadysif6220It’s completely different to have a long gun man on a tower and a gun man who is in a building with many people and is constantly moving around. Official reports show that these guys didn’t have the proper equipment or training and they couldn’t do anything until the swat team came. “Imagine how unarmed people who could only use their bodies felt” is completely irrelevant. You want the officer to run up to the building only to also get shot and killed? You’re basically saying “oh those people inside got shot and weren’t able to protect themselves, let’s send guys who wouldn’t fair much better to do the same”

They took err jerbs

No culture is equal. Islamic culture and Western culture do not mix. Spanish history already knows this. Im happier to receive Ukrainian refugees over Iranian fortune seekers. That should indicate plenty, that the issue was never about immigration.

That was hilarious. Then they lost their collective minds when Spain said they'd be deporting Brits without the right documents. People are beyond thick.

Addicts usually do have an underlying mental illness though. Addiction is literally a mental ill-….never mind

@@Januaryjenkins addiction is a fascinating phenomenon…