Jaw Dropper #3: Henry Cow's "Western Culture"

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5 жыл бұрын

At first, I thought Henry Cow's "Western Culture" was the worst "music" I'd ever heard. It took me years to appreciate and understand its musical complexity and richness. It's not an album you can be indifferent about, so do you love it or hate it?
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@avitalalef9947
@avitalalef9947 2 жыл бұрын
*You don't need no music degree to listen to henry cow!* I loved this band from the first time i heard em, and not because i'm a hipster with "good taste" in music 🤢🤢 this 'noise' is not an aquired taste; just a preference.. Reminded me of Saal Hardali
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the messages to (incorrectly) take from this video… Oy vey.
@ericarmstrong6540
@ericarmstrong6540 2 жыл бұрын
On a visceral level music either touches (evoking a like, dislike, hate, discomfort or other reaction in the listener) us or it doesn't. Why this is so is difficult to explain. Explanations to discuss and explain my listening experiences invariably lead me into the kinds of descriptions that are more revelatory about me than they are of the music I might be attempting to describe.
@phatho6901
@phatho6901 5 жыл бұрын
Zappa meets Gentle Giant meets King Crimson...
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Someone just commented something similar on our FB post. Interesting.
@slingsby
@slingsby 5 жыл бұрын
Western Culture and In Praise Of Learning are essential listening along with the Art Bears albums.
@AustralopithecusENCR
@AustralopithecusENCR 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Henry Cow in high school in the 1970s, and they've never left my mental playlist. Coming to Western Culture from that perspective when it came out it seemed more mannered than the earlier ones. Just intuitive, beautiful, music to my ears. But I gave up trying to get people to listen to it back then as well. Thank your for your thoughts, and for sharing it
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@geoffhewitt6681
@geoffhewitt6681 Жыл бұрын
Fell in love with Henry Cow, Faust, the very early Kraftwerk & Tangerine dreams first album when they came out. They epitomised the freedom advocated in the 60’s into a musical form. There was no need to stick to the formulaic pop/rock song structure, but to follow in the tradition of free jazz and the directions being pushed by the likes of Stockhausen, et al. The difference in Henry Cows approach was a deep rooted socialist political undercurrent.
@anotherdamn6c
@anotherdamn6c 10 ай бұрын
It was a wonderful time to listen to late night FM and then to take a chance on the record.
@shacharh5470
@shacharh5470 4 жыл бұрын
If you're curious about Henry Cow, start with Unrest, it's a more accesible album
@platinummonster9755
@platinummonster9755 4 жыл бұрын
Unrest was where I dipped my toe in. I found it sort of related to Uncle Meat era Frank Zappa. Bittern Storm Over Ulm is a nice introductory piece. Short and, well... bitternsweet.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought “bittern” was a typo on my original mp3 files haha
@ianinthewest
@ianinthewest 5 жыл бұрын
I received this album from my father when I turned 18. I have never been the same. It is an absolute masterpiece. Required listening for anyone wishing to understand music on an advanced level. The moment of the epiphany when you finally get "it" is a transcendental experience that brings one in touch with the numinous.
@MegaCirse
@MegaCirse 5 жыл бұрын
............. Luminous, I presume .................... ;-)
@ianinthewest
@ianinthewest 5 жыл бұрын
Luminous works, but I mean numinous in the sense Christopher Hitchens used the word.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
What a gift!
@johnjesberger5676
@johnjesberger5676 3 жыл бұрын
I love this album. When I was in college at Kent State their college station ran an overnight program called Fresh Air. From 11pm to 6am it was all prog, fusion, art rock, RIO, synthesizer music, everything AND the kitchen sink. Henry Cow was a revelation.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an evening of programming. I wonder how they found that much material to air every night
@johnjesberger5676
@johnjesberger5676 3 жыл бұрын
@@MakeWeirdMusic Part of it was that nothing was off limits, so they had a lot to draw from. The other is that they had an interview segment call "Industrial Wasteland" and an Artist of the week feature where they would play a lot of a particular act over the 5 days, and a new import feature. It wasn't that they were relentlessly iconoclastic and weird, they'd throw in a Hendrix or Doors deep track, it's that you just never knew what was coming. A playlist might go Egg, Zappa, Brand X, Bo Hansson, Pere Ubu, Hendrix, Magma, Alan Parsons one night. Next night Eno, Art Bears, Can, Kraftwerk, McDonald and Giles, Tin Huey, PFM, and even some Ken Nordine word jazz.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
That is so excellent. We need more of that in the world.
@coreymcd22
@coreymcd22 4 жыл бұрын
Fred Frith's work with Robert Wyatt should not be overlooked as well. Some Henry Cow even reminds me of Soft Machine.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Please share!
@gidouille
@gidouille 4 жыл бұрын
I take it you mean the Muddy Mouse / Muddy Mouth tracks from Ruth is Stranger than Richard. Those were cobbled together from bits written for the Ottawa Music Company and Henry Cow's live score for a staging of The Bacchae. Frith gave them to Wyatt who added lyrics. Henry Cow were definitely influenced by Soft Machine. Frith has said he idolized Wyatt and would call him up and sort of suggest that he join Soft Machine. Wyatt later asked Frith to join the proposed Matching Mole reformation, which never happened due to Wyatt's accident.
@anotherdamn6c
@anotherdamn6c 10 ай бұрын
@@gidouille There are the Fred Frith bits with Ivor Cutler that give me no end of pleasure. You will see Fred playing with Mike Oldfield and Mike Ratledge in the BBC recording of Tubular Bills.
@gidouille
@gidouille 10 ай бұрын
@@anotherdamn6c Yes, on Velvet Donkey.
@ericarmstrong6540
@ericarmstrong6540 5 жыл бұрын
Please do more Henry Cow videos. BTW, I love this album. I have loved it ever since I first bought it back in 1982 when I was in college.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Did you see the Decay of Cities instructional video I made?
@ericarmstrong6540
@ericarmstrong6540 5 жыл бұрын
@@MakeWeirdMusic The Fred Frith Guitar part? Yes. Very good videos
@NickGodwin
@NickGodwin 4 жыл бұрын
Someones got to do it. So it might as well be them! First saw at the Roundhouse in 1973, they played Nirvana for Mice first, and the audience were stunned into silence at the end. SO beautiful. the extremes of beauty and ugliness, light and shade, hope and despair. x love and peace
@joeeconroy7162
@joeeconroy7162 4 ай бұрын
Has there ever been a rock band that pushed the boundaries of what music music is and can be in every direction? My own band> Ut Gret has been inspired by Henry Cow to a great degree. Fred Frith is my favorite guitarist, our quintet has a bassoon and clarinet and our 1st album "Time of the Grets" opening cut has 17 different time signatures and is called "Friend of the Cow" . I do love them and seeing Fred Frith in NYC at the Manifestival debut his Guitars on the Table changed my life as an aspiring guitarist and improvisor
@meptune
@meptune 4 жыл бұрын
I adore Henry Cow. This album is brilliant; next time, feature one with Dagmar.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I never got into the Dagmar stuff. But there is still time.
@growskull
@growskull 4 ай бұрын
art bears' debut is the 2nd half that completes this album
@wendelynmusic
@wendelynmusic Ай бұрын
When I was in high school in the 70's, I loved going to the record store and finding weird music. Henry Cow was one of my favorites, along with Samla Mammas Manna from Sweden. My understanding is the name comes from Henry Cowell who made homemade microtonal instrumentals to play his compositions. and were also influenced by Stockhausen. I saw Frith live in college when he was with Skeleton Crew. I loved them! I've heard Frith described as Europe's answer to Robert Fripp. Though they both play guitar and love odd time signatures I think they couldn't be more different. Henry Cow and Faust got me into the whole noise rock scene. I love both of them but I lean more toward Frith. RIO!
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic Ай бұрын
Amazing! Check out Mat Muntz’s new record Phantom Islands. You’ll love it.
@IndigoBassNotes
@IndigoBassNotes 5 жыл бұрын
I always like to play this track kinda loud as "background music" when my girl friend wants to " have a talk "......
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ericarmstrong6540
@ericarmstrong6540 5 жыл бұрын
This works better as "breakup" music.
@h.m.9569
@h.m.9569 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I'll check that one out and will definitely read about them ( which is often an important step to access music better), thank you very much for you're share. I really like the Jaw Dropper series! BTW what happened to the giveaway stuff? Already gone? I'm always interested in Gentle Giant merch😁.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
I ended up giving the stuff away with t shirt orders and to patreon supporters. I still have some left! Thanks for following up and watching and commenting.
@joseluisvelasco4574
@joseluisvelasco4574 5 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite Henry Cow album. I enjoyed knowing your experience listening this record for the first time. I think for me the first time wasn't that harsh because I was already checking other R.I.O. records. But I agree with you there's some music that you need to learn from previous experiences to be able to enjoy it.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Not something you can just dive into.
@jamiepastman5594
@jamiepastman5594 6 ай бұрын
The song “Amygdala” from their first album (Legend) is arguably the greatest avant prog song of the entire decade. It’s more complex than Zappa, smarter than King Crimson and joyous like Gentle Giant. Would highly recommend if you’re discovering Henry Cow, it’s not as hard on the ears as Western Culture.
@cristauxfeur2560
@cristauxfeur2560 3 жыл бұрын
Hardcore fan of this band, I have like 20 bootlegs. I can confirm that the compositions are so complex that in one of them, Angers 1978 (features Yochk'o from Magma as guest if you know), they were still learning the material and apologize for failing Falling Away, also fail Industry so they do it again at the end of the show lol
@AlchemyMoonchat
@AlchemyMoonchat Жыл бұрын
I never found HC 'difficult'. But, I guess I was lucky, as I was around at the time. I just regarded Legend as a very interesting 'jazz/rock album'. In fact, I thought it was just a more complex Tubular Bells (Which came out around the same time). Very fortunate to have seen them live - musically and in terms of sheer virtuosity, nothing has come near (for me). Alas, eventually all that musicality, rhythmic invention, and virtuosity fell off a cliff after this album. I think to this day, they are stuck in the dark hole of aimless and self-indulgent noise noodling. So happy I still have these overlooked albums and my memories. Five stars for whoever it was that persuaded the repulsive Branson that this band would make him more money.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic Жыл бұрын
LOL thanks for watching, Alchemy Moon
@foarfield
@foarfield 9 ай бұрын
There could've been a great Mitchell & Webb skitch between Fred Frith and Richard Branson.
3 жыл бұрын
By the time I listened to this album for the first time I knew the previous three, so my jaw didn't drop. Much. Curiously enough, I listened to them in chronological order. I found Leg End in a flea market in Madrid, made a tape for my brother Ricardo (whom you know, I think - talk about music theory guy) he liked a lot and in time he provided the other three. For my last birthday he presented me with the book about Henry Cow, The World is a Problem.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I recognize that last name! Very cool story. Henry Cow is divisive, but it sounds like your family is very open-minded.
@sirlordroyalgarter
@sirlordroyalgarter 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this since I was 12 and always won the game 'Risk' when I put it on for my friends. 'Nirvana for Mice' is not a chart topper, but oooooh! Love it all underneath an Analbasac Noom!
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. I can't imagine playing Risk _while_ listening to Henry Cow. Can't really imagine doing anything while listening to HC, actually. :)
@jagjeetjain
@jagjeetjain 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video!! One thing off topic, can you please do a video on your practice routine. Because I think many viewers would like to know how you developed your skills. Keep posting contents like these.👍👍
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Sure! What would you like to see? Practice regarding Fracture or something else?
@jagjeetjain
@jagjeetjain 5 жыл бұрын
@@MakeWeirdMusic General practice routine.
@josephrohrbach1588
@josephrohrbach1588 9 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the greatest album ever. Musical mastery from start to finish.
@scarymonster7765
@scarymonster7765 8 ай бұрын
This is a wonderful album. I was lucky enough to see Tim Hodgkinson, Chris Cutler, Yumi Hara, Chlöe Herington and John Greaves perform the second half of this record at a show in 2018 (the first half was skipped because they were only playing music composed by Lindsay Cooper). Cutler's drumming is truly something to behold.
@user-uo8yh9tb8g
@user-uo8yh9tb8g Жыл бұрын
my favorite Henry Cow recording... amazingly complex
@Symphomaniac1
@Symphomaniac1 5 жыл бұрын
First discovered this gem several years ago. Definitely an acquired taste but at the same time a huge influence on my own musical endeavours. I probably don't need to tell you but if you enjoy Irène Schweizer's solo on "Gretel's Tale" I highly recommend the work of jazz pianist Cecil Taylor.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the recommendation.
@progfox
@progfox 4 жыл бұрын
henry cow will always be my goto rio band
@MegaCirse
@MegaCirse 5 жыл бұрын
Je comprends pas ce qu'il dit mais la musique est bien ...... très bien même !! cette musique absconse et un peu toxique ouvre indéniablement les yeux sur de nouvelles promesses et à toutes les merveilles de la nature. Evocatrice de la croyance dans «l'au-delà» et de pouvoirs au-delà de l'observation, ces pièces tirent les ficelles du cœur, attirent les nostalgies et éveillent les amours, les vies écorchés et les veilleurs endormis!
@robertosolito1276
@robertosolito1276 4 жыл бұрын
Ce l' ho questo vinile...ti consiglio In praise of learning 1973 o 1974 ?
@veloopity
@veloopity 4 жыл бұрын
INSTANT BIG LOVE, right back when it was released, but I grew up with this stuff (early prog, Soft Machine, weird harmonies and time signatures), so I had no problem and could enjoy
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
You are more open-minded than I! :)
@Syfoll
@Syfoll 4 жыл бұрын
They're quite interesting and even though haven't gotten completely into them, I like Nine Funerals of the Citizen King and Ruins quite a lot, especially Nine Funerals.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't gotten completely into them, either. That's for sure.
@stinkodoronion
@stinkodoronion Жыл бұрын
Ruins is my most favourite composition of theirs!
@FiddlerNick
@FiddlerNick 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this album when it first came out on CD but never got on with it. I loved all their others, especially Concerts and saw them live a couple of times in the 70's. A lot of their stuff needs a few listens before you "get" it and then becomes very rewarding.Not sure why this one didn't gel.. Is it a touch more relentless than the others or maybe I got more impatient as I got older? Anyway I will now dig it out and listen a few more times and see if we can make it work!
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I bet it'll stick at some point
@foarfield
@foarfield 9 ай бұрын
Love the good Hodgkin's side, haven't gotten into the Cooper side yet. Hodgkinson was also in two cool post-punk bands called The Momes and The Work.
@BobDaniel
@BobDaniel 5 жыл бұрын
Always liked "In Praise of Learning" over other Henry Cow albums. Love me some Dagmar.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
I do not enjoy Dagmar. But I’m glad so many do! She reminds me of Yoko Ono. Just not my thing.
@BobDaniel
@BobDaniel 5 жыл бұрын
@@MakeWeirdMusic Understandable. But I would offer that the difference between Dagmar and Yoko is like the difference between Fred Frith and a cat walking over the guitar. Dagmar sings atonally because she CAN, and accurately. Yoko is just caterwauling.
@tbuts5859
@tbuts5859 4 жыл бұрын
They gut huts with gusto Pillage villages with verve War does what she has to People get what they deseve
@meptune
@meptune 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Living In The Heart of The Beast is one of my all time favorite progressive rock (?) songs and I think Dagmar is outstanding on that album. I hope you've seen the old live performance for French television that's been KZfaq.
@sebastianx13
@sebastianx13 5 жыл бұрын
More videos like these, amazing
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
I have another one planned for this weekend, if the day job allows.
@ethanwimsett
@ethanwimsett 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess like any aesthetic you're not so familiar with, but this is also very detailed so each revisit is like peeling down layers to the piece. Dunno if it's just the cover, but this album has a real 20th century artsy vibe.
@wjstephens4654
@wjstephens4654 23 күн бұрын
I’ve loved this album for about 40 years, and loved it from the beginning. It really did blow my mind as a 20 year old the first time I heard it. In fact I thought it was impossible for humans to actually play this music and then I discovered my turntable was in 45! All one needs is an open mind and imagination to enjoy, I certainly had little understanding of music theory back then. It is still an inspiration all these years later.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 14 күн бұрын
Check out the new interview we just posted with an avant garde bagpipe artist
@chrismawson8935
@chrismawson8935 2 жыл бұрын
Henry Cow's second album was called Unrest, and for good reason. It is UN-easy listening, but with moments of great beauty in between the passages of apparent dissonance. In that regard they're in the same league as King Crimson or Radiohead, in my view anyway. Again IMO, their first two albums are the ones to seek out.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 2 жыл бұрын
They are great! But they don't have the nauseating effect of Western Culture haha.
@chrismawson8935
@chrismawson8935 2 жыл бұрын
@@MakeWeirdMusic I wonder whether some of the 'Western Culture effect' is due to the rather shrill production - 'warm' it most certainly isn't!!
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 2 жыл бұрын
No one I've played it for has commented on the sound. It's the composition that gets under their skin. :)
@EdwardBast
@EdwardBast 10 ай бұрын
I've always liked Henry Cow-with or without Slapp Happy. Its closest counterpart for me would be the experimental side of Zappa, like "Greggery Peccery maybe" But I think the Cows maybe had more formal training in counterpoint? Hodgkinson's writing is brilliant, as in "Living in the Heart of the Beast," one of my favorites.
@JadeTheWolf1982
@JadeTheWolf1982 Жыл бұрын
Listen to Ornette Coleman's Free Jazz, that is where Hendry Cow drew most of their inspiration. Also on the piano solo, that is lifted from Cecil Taylor. Finally, listen to Meditations from John Coltrane. You will hear the influence. Those are more difficult and demanding listening than Henry Cow.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic Жыл бұрын
Frankly, I'm not looking for demanding listening as much as creative music. But those are some great recommendations!
@jago62blue
@jago62blue 2 жыл бұрын
Fred Frith’s Guitar Solos album is also worth checking out.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! That's going in an upcoming video.
@jago62blue
@jago62blue 2 жыл бұрын
@@MakeWeirdMusic Great. It’s a classic!
@ericarmstrong6540
@ericarmstrong6540 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps now is a good time to plug the new HC book that is out under Duke University Press entitled: "Henry Cow: The World is a Problem". I am about 1/3 through it and so far I can highly recommend it. Will report back...
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I should get it and do a video about it. Thanks!
@ericarmstrong6540
@ericarmstrong6540 3 жыл бұрын
@@MakeWeirdMusic Reporting back to say that I completed this book about three months ago. Highly recommend it to anyone who is a fan of the "vernacular avant garde" (the way avant garde artists/musicians express themselves) in general, Henry Cow, Canterbury music, Frank Zappa, Capt. Beefheart and other similarly oriented artists. Coming in at over 500 pages, it is a very thorough read on the subject, that takes one though the early years of Henry Cow at Cambridge in the late 1960's up until the band's decision to split up in 1978. The writer interviews everyone for the book who was a member and also managers, sound engineers (John Greaves' wife, Sarah Greaves) and other artists who played with Henry Cow near the end (members of "The Orkestra"). Very Enthralling.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I gotta check it out
@yvindheilo229
@yvindheilo229 4 жыл бұрын
Love at first listen! A love that just grows stronger and stronger.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Glad you enjoyed it
@hopeyousmokeit
@hopeyousmokeit 6 ай бұрын
First off hadn't heard this album before so thanks for bringing it to the surface of my algorithm. I'm a huge Henry Cow fan and 70s prog / jazz / fusion. I disagree about your advice to listen to someone with a music degree to explain things you dont "get". Music and art are extremely subjective and personal. You shouldn't have to force yourself to try and enjoy something or feel like you arent educated enough for your opinion. All you need is an open mind and active listening. ( and hopefully a good set of headphones and a sativa) Music finds us when we are ready for it. It catches you...and if you follow your bliss your tastes will grow and mature. Extra info like theory adds but should be after the fact. Like watching a film with directors commentary only after you're a fan.
@timallnutt5011
@timallnutt5011 4 жыл бұрын
I love it, fantastic album, all Henry Cow's albums are amazing, related bands Slapp Happy and Art Bears are great too.
@kookamunga2458
@kookamunga2458 Жыл бұрын
I just bought the album for a decent price and I am not disappointed. It's in the same vein as Frank Zappa but it's also different.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Great album. Thanks!
@paulayers1111
@paulayers1111 5 жыл бұрын
I’m still trying to digest this album. I’m not as familiar with it as the others. I absolutely love all the other Henry Cow albums though. My personal favorite is Unrest
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a good one too!
@Shadowbannddiscourse
@Shadowbannddiscourse 4 жыл бұрын
You got grettles tale mixed up with day by day. When I first heard this album in love it. Georgie Born got down on that Cecil taylor like solo. HC is one of my fave bands .you gotta dig that 1/2 the sky first heavy metal song with bassoon like sabbath's meets prokofiev . Notice the beginning is the same as the song falling away ( the song you featured last . Just heavier and doomier
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction. There’s a lot of depth to that album, which you adeptly point out.
@gidouille
@gidouille 4 жыл бұрын
Georgie is the bass player. The pianist is one of the guests, Irene Schweizer.
@Shadowbannddiscourse
@Shadowbannddiscourse 3 жыл бұрын
@AlexanderBabikovHimself true shame on me i got my female's mixed up .
@Shadowbannddiscourse
@Shadowbannddiscourse 3 жыл бұрын
@@gidouille yeah as i said i got my females mixed up . And i k ow especally irene had had a music career out side of HC she was also on john Graves solo album if i could remember shes done a ton.
@gidouille
@gidouille 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shadowbannddiscourse Schweizer, who is a drummer as well as pianist, led a free Jazz trio which had Uli Trepte and Mani Neumeier before they tripped out, went electric and formed Guru Guru. She played with Cooper, Born, Nichols, Potter, etc. in the Feminist improvising Group, with Cooper and Nichols in Les Diaboliques, with Jo Mcphee's Po Music, is on dozens of improv albums and has a hand in running the Swiss Label, Intakt, I believe. Can't recall her being on a John Greaves album, but i could be forgetting something, or perhaps you're thinking of Carla Bley.
@nickj5451
@nickj5451 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Leg End and In Praise of Learning, but I could never get why people like Western Culture. Maybe I'll give it a real try again then.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Please do
@romanpotocki7018
@romanpotocki7018 13 күн бұрын
I tried to listen henry cow starting from beginning of they're journey, my impressions always ranged from total trash to unskilled playing, and still do, hence I have never went through the socks albums. Personally I think that first attempts was just experimenting and trying new things from which not a lot remained relevant. With this album I think they finally found "IT", instead of trying to mimic Canterbury style they switch to King Crimson and it turned out to be the missing element.
@lbcsrw
@lbcsrw 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of Henry Cow, and associated projects. To be honest, though, I've never been fond of Western Culture. It always felt like cleverness got in the way of art. My favorite album is sides 1 & 2 of Concerts. It is truly a thing of beauty and wonder.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I've never listened to Concerts. I'll have to give it a shot.
@lbcsrw
@lbcsrw 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you think.
@martinpirint8559
@martinpirint8559 Ай бұрын
That's not really fair. I have a music degree and that ain't the way it goes. Just 'cause you understand it doesn't make it something you're going to hum on the way to McDonalds. This stuff is extreme but I like what I like and that is that. I bought the white background sock album for $1.99 at a record store and it must have been one of the first Virgin pressings because it took paint off walls it was a Mastering Genius. I came from a Frith album and this became my favorite new band. So on to Art Bears and how to clear a room at last call. God I love these creatures. BTW I play the Chapman Stick because I ran out of notes on the bass...
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic Ай бұрын
That’s fair. Go make a video about it
@ellismaytham456
@ellismaytham456 3 жыл бұрын
I have the album on CD signed by Tim
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky lucky!
@_ratherBursadboi
@_ratherBursadboi 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure where I’d put Western Culture in my ranking of the Henry Cow cannon. I love In Praise of Learning and the Art Bears albums.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously it's #1.
@primitivepatterns
@primitivepatterns 3 жыл бұрын
The solo in the intro goes harder than any other guitar solo I've ever heard
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
It's boppin' fer sure
@primitivepatterns
@primitivepatterns 3 жыл бұрын
@@MakeWeirdMusic i feel like you can't truly appreciate it until you've tried to play air guitar along to it
@flytomars
@flytomars 9 ай бұрын
Love it.
@jeremiahch
@jeremiahch 3 жыл бұрын
Henry Cow is one of the best bands ever!
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
They're amazing
@jeremiahch
@jeremiahch 3 жыл бұрын
@@MakeWeirdMusic have you read the biography? It's incredible.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Not yet
@starless5668
@starless5668 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's better - the album or the book it's standing on.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
I knew someone would catch it!
@user-ej1cx8tk7l
@user-ej1cx8tk7l Күн бұрын
love
@richardkemp5550
@richardkemp5550 7 күн бұрын
Ask a friend with a music degree? you're what we call in England a... you look it up.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 7 күн бұрын
You are so clever!
@dyllanusher1379
@dyllanusher1379 4 жыл бұрын
i love godel escher bach:)
@everylittlecrapshedoesismagic
@everylittlecrapshedoesismagic 4 жыл бұрын
Western Culture makes atonal sounds tonal.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Hah, I wouldn't go that far. There's a lot more extreme stuff out there.
@culturaekiz310
@culturaekiz310 2 жыл бұрын
Like it.
@brainhackmusicbox
@brainhackmusicbox Жыл бұрын
+1 big fan of Henry Cow here
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah!
@malcolmwood5843
@malcolmwood5843 2 жыл бұрын
Glorious music.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Malcolm.
@miguelvalentine9776
@miguelvalentine9776 4 жыл бұрын
big pet peev you do not need to seek a friend with a music degree or know all the motifs to appreciate this. also the drums alone are a huge selling point. may be listen to more music, baby steps... like trout mask is a harder listen, some glenn branca... may be start with cardiacs work your way here lol
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 4 жыл бұрын
To each his or her own. It helped me appreciate it. I can’t change my story.
@ganazby
@ganazby 3 жыл бұрын
I adore it. But it took a while.
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@obelusyt
@obelusyt 5 жыл бұрын
instead of asking a friend with a musical degree, spend some time listening the rest of their discography
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@briandeabler9704
@briandeabler9704 5 жыл бұрын
this reminds me of begnagrad
@MakeWeirdMusic
@MakeWeirdMusic 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what that is. Please share.
@briandeabler9704
@briandeabler9704 5 жыл бұрын
Make Weird Music a Yugoslavian avant-garde band. They tend to be more melodic than Henry cow, but they are similarly bold. Their song “coc’n rolla” is a good example of their style.
@lightweed
@lightweed 3 ай бұрын
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