I’m very conflicted but ….. atleast Eugenia is out of her mother’s house for x amount of time?
@Sadlittlecloud8 ай бұрын
I agree she doesn’t have any friendships and I’m sure with her condition it’s hard to even Make friends. She deserves to have fun & love too.
@haylieemichelle88268 ай бұрын
All I can think. Maybe this is her chance OUT
@Peepandbridgette878 ай бұрын
Someone said she’s nearby in a hotel
@malpal12138 ай бұрын
Same. Eugenia needs social support from peers who care about her- how does anyone expect her to have a chance of recovering if everyone alienates her??
@lisacarr86548 ай бұрын
@Peepandbridgette87 in a hotel may as well be otherside of world for how far her mum let's her get away from her
@Pineapplejim8 ай бұрын
You can’t help people who don’t want help. He’s making the rest of her life happy, it’s the most compassionate move
@tiselectric8 ай бұрын
I agree, I believe he has good intentions.
@rawheadxfiles50178 ай бұрын
@@tiselectricnot the way he snapped at her
@seraa31098 ай бұрын
He is using her to generate interest for himself online. This is all for views and comments and drama. And its working.
@malpal12138 ай бұрын
I think this is true but I also believe Jeffrey knew he’d get more attention by doing something public with her. The way she just flatters him also makes me think that’s why he likes to keep her around. And I think she’s so excited to have a friend that cares about her
@damnmuggle8 ай бұрын
@@seraa3109you don’t think it’s the same for her? Lol
@DaraxXxDevious8 ай бұрын
Let's be honest, this girl isn't possibly going to survive for much longer with what she's putting her body through. If Jeffree, even as horrible as he is, is bringing her some sort of joy, let it be. She's going to die, and nobody is going to stop that unless she herself decides to save herself. Let her be happy at this point.
@beans222uwu8 ай бұрын
I feel the same way. This interaction was so wholesome to me and I think Jeffrey knows the reality of what’s coming unless she gets help. I enjoy their chemistry together.
@rachelhansen24178 ай бұрын
My problem is more that Jeffrey is platforming her to an audience with people who are already at risk for anorexia.
@kat-928 ай бұрын
I agree she nows what shes doing. She knows the result. You can't help someone who doesn't want help, its purely just keeping her comfortable and happy. As long as he doesn't use her death for content later. I shudder to think.
@mvpgale8 ай бұрын
@@rachelhansen2417the internet or anybody in general isn’t responsible for your triggers. he isn’t promoting anything. he is giving her a chance to look at what freedom is.
@tuffstuff2U8 ай бұрын
Let's hope she doesn't have a medical event on his watch.
@bobbiejoulmer288 ай бұрын
Honestly I’m glad Eugenia is able to spend some time with someone. She’s actively dying, I don’t think there’s much we can do at this point. If he’s giving her support and showing her she’s not alone then I can’t say anything bad.
@rachelhansen24178 ай бұрын
I’m concerned about someone who Jen such severe anorexia being platformed for the sake of those in the audience. It’s just so dangerous.
@freakoftheweek54708 ай бұрын
@@rachelhansen2417she has an eating disorder, that does not mean she should hide all day. she is being tormented by her body and we all need to empathize better
@rachelhansen24178 ай бұрын
@@freakoftheweek5470 you misunderstand me. I have nothing against showing her love and support-in private. The problem I have is more on Jeffree for the fact that he has an audience that includes numerous vulnerable teenage girls. Promoting her as aspirational to audiences like that is dangerous.
@gobsmr8 ай бұрын
@@freakoftheweek5470no one thinks she should “hide all day.” but her being deplatformed would do wonders for her. the media is constantly talking about her weight and one of the best things she could do is walk away from the internet.
@pinkmonkeybird26448 ай бұрын
@@rachelhansen2417I guess I’m just too cynical. Jeffree Starr is actively making money when he brings her online with him. He lost a decent chunk of his audience and has worked hard to rebuild that nice stream of money coming in via KZfaq and other platforms. Eugenia being in her most precarious health ever has been the talk of social media recently, so he knows that if he trots her out to perform with him, she’ll make him a lot of money. He doesn’t care if it’s good for Eugenia or not, as long as it’s good for bank account he’s fine with it. I wish Eugenia well, but she’s so far into the dangerously low weight bracket that I’m not sure she will be able to recover.
@NatashiaB778 ай бұрын
It’s a weird take that people think that because she has ED or mental health issues she shouldn’t have friends or do things that make her happy.
@libbyacar76098 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. She is ill not evil and she deserves to have some kind of happiness.
@Stephanie-we2mv8 ай бұрын
she actually needs that support system even more
@mizconti8 ай бұрын
I agree. Isolation… will amplify addiction and EDs. It’s having a friendships and healthy connections that truly helps those in such a dark place.
@elizmaoosthuizen32018 ай бұрын
And how everyone is promoting body positivity and obeysity but because she has a ED that happens to make her skinny it's not supported? That's hipocrisy on a next level. ALL ED's are dangerous and worrisome and good friends might just save their life.
@carriethompson848 ай бұрын
Right?!?
@suckzforlife8 ай бұрын
I would never think these two would have anything to do with eachother tbh
@jaqsre8 ай бұрын
they’ve been friends for a while now. eugenia always makes videos about his products too
@bb-mf6qh8 ай бұрын
Really? She has a ton of his makeup and she talks about him all the time, he also was besties with Shane who publicly exploited her. There's a bunch of connections between them even more I'm sure I don't know
@idcfunny12178 ай бұрын
I think the connection started years ago through Shane Dawson she use to collab with
@Lucia-yc9zj8 ай бұрын
Almost all her makeup videos have Jeffrey star makeup. Now it makes sense why
@laur838 ай бұрын
i think they talked about a collab years ago. so this doesn’t surprise me 😭 and they’ve been speaking over text and tiktok live. idk it’s just problematic to me.
@litgirlablaze34328 ай бұрын
If he’s gonna help her, it’s gonna be a slow thing. He has to gain her trust. You think she’s gonna respond if he’s like “oh I’m taking you to rehab!”. People need to stop being ridiculous and really think about this. If he is gonna make any difference he needs to just be a friend to her so she trusts him…He needs to connect with her. He will have to drop subtle hints and probably spend lots of time with her and helping her to see and WANT help.. This isn’t an overnight fix.
@spookshow69998 ай бұрын
He's not helping her. He was being mean to her last night. They don't care about her.
@anka63568 ай бұрын
Exactly. Look where what Jacklyn did got her. Nowhere. And I like Jacklyn.
@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr8 ай бұрын
No one expects him to literally drive her to rehab. People expect a real friend to have a real conversation with her about her problem.
@litgirlablaze34328 ай бұрын
@@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr and do you guys think that would be on live? I am sure they have had talks that she isn’t comfy to do online. He was in tears saying the internet doesn’t know the whole story and to give her some grace.
@Sarahkara13138 ай бұрын
He’s not helping her. He’s using her.
@Alexis-vm8ng8 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why people send gifts to celebrities and influencers like they have money 😭
@Mintn1m8 ай бұрын
Bro, they don't magically have money like sure they have lots of dollars stacked on their bank but like those money came from their own hard work 💀 not sure if you meant it in a different way or if zi misunderstood
@madsss1338 ай бұрын
@@Mintn1myou def misunderstood they’re talking about like during live streams they give gifts and stuff but they’re already rich and don’t need it when they profit on other things
@y3sy3day8 ай бұрын
...to show that they love them?
@sarar42708 ай бұрын
They want their y/n moment
@youllbemytourniquet8 ай бұрын
@@sarar4270 this is the only explanation i can think of. these people must be rich because i don't have money to be giving out freely
@pinkbearx3ily8 ай бұрын
Oh a random note Im tired of youtube promoting Eugenia. If I'm searching for crochet tutorials she shouldnt appear and I should be able to block her and yet I can't.
@jolimars228 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh you too?? I've just been trying to look for crochet tutorials and shes everywhereeeee on there. I don't know why they're pushing it so hard. Totally random
@AshleyxVlogs8 ай бұрын
The fact that I can’t block channels completely is insane. As someone who recovered from an ED I don’t need a flashback to ED Tumblr when I try searching for enchilada recipes.
@thegrimlooper8 ай бұрын
Same here. That’s not the pattern we want to see.
@StarryNightxx8 ай бұрын
its so twisted how they push ed content. I started getting videos of anorexic people showing what they ate in a day and basically giving tutorials on how to be sick just in my feed out of nowhere.
@foxxxyg8 ай бұрын
I feel like if I look up ANYTHING I see her. And it's usually weird fan accounts. "Love Eugenia Cooney" comes up constantly. Like I'll look up try guys and I'll get like 4 of their videos and then her!? It's so bizarre.
@jojoindigo8 ай бұрын
Hot take! Jeffree spoiling Eugenia might actually promote her to eat something. I think back to my anorexic days and if my rich famous friend was flying me place and taking me to glamorous restaurants… I might actually eat more. Enough to keep me alive. I’ve been following both of them for awhile now and I’m not the biggest fan of either- however I want Eugenia to get better.
@colleenmcbride36568 ай бұрын
I get big brother vibes from this interaction I saw. He is the ONLY person who has been able to get her away from her mom, which is amazing and can only be good for her. Sometimes it takes a lost person to reach another lost person.
@bigb8538 ай бұрын
Same, we have no idea what was said off camera...I hope he is trying to help her.
@eternalsun.34008 ай бұрын
He's not lost...totally grounded
@humanoide70768 ай бұрын
But Deb is there too
@lauraborabee9036 ай бұрын
Exactly! He is clearly trying to help her here! He has money I’m sure he’s doing things on the side that can potentially help her.
@ladynightmare918 ай бұрын
Maybe Jeffree is as concerned as we are and is trying in his own way to help her? Hence taking her to lunch and letting her stay with him. Maybe one of her idols reaching out is what she needs. I don't want to see that poor woman pass away myself.
@batmanwtf8 ай бұрын
Agreed! But why are they live streaming the entire thing? Hosting someone and extending friendship doesn’t need to be monetized by Jeffree if it was genuine.
@ladynightmare918 ай бұрын
@@batmanwtf Well Jeffree or not she's always live and doing stuff on twitch or whatever. Should she really have Jeffree or anyone for that matter treat her like a prisoner and outcast her from what she loves to do? Or let her do her thing while also trying to help the cause at hand. I get what he is doing. And he is actually doing exactly what should be done to actually try to help this woman. You can tell it's hurting him inside as well. Hate him or not he has feelings to and is human like the rest of us and I applaud him for actually giving a crap.
@karlat78808 ай бұрын
If he was trying to help he wouldn’t need to livestream it.
@alexmiguel3518 ай бұрын
@@batmanwtfI’m not really a JS fan. But if her mom is as controlling as people think then maybe agreeing to do a livestream together was the only way mom would allow the visit. Maybe JS is trying to infiltrate.
@ladynightmare918 ай бұрын
@@karlat7880 And you have what medical degree to tell anyone how they should help someone? Like I said, Jeffree or not she would be going and doing lives on her own. He's making her feel comfortable, doing stuff that she's used to doing, he walked out to stop people harassing her and he broke down and cried. He's as scared as anyone who is human enough to feel compassion about someone struggling. Hence why he has her staying with him. Hate him or not he's actually doing something to help unlike any keyboard warrior telling her to go eat something. Everyone needs to step back and shut their mouth. Period
@LyssaJ8308 ай бұрын
It’s literally nothing he can do…she herself said that she never wanted help. He probably just wants to connect with her since it’s obvious she’s going through something and she always supported him.
@sybill123ful8 ай бұрын
two terrible people becoming friends, shocker
@LyssaJ8308 ай бұрын
@@sybill123ful😂😂 I wouldn’t call Eugenia terrible but she’s something.
@laur838 ай бұрын
i don’t think it’s that altruistic, but i agree that there really isn’t a whole lot jeffree could do to help her since she has rejected help. i suppose forcing someone to be institutionalised is one thing. but her friends already did that before and she got better for while, but it didn’t stick. not that i think people should give up on getting her help, but just that she may very well be beyond it. either way, this friendship is just super weird to me
@sybill123ful8 ай бұрын
@@LyssaJ830someone who glorifies eating disorders and makes them seem cool like she does with her child fans, is terrible. 🥰
@eggsndlegsbby83048 ай бұрын
I really do think he cares. He made a pint to say they at lunch and dinner. I don’t know how long she’s planning on staying at the ranch but I can totally see Jeffery kinda monitoring the situation and at least making sure she eats something. Idk I guess I just hope he’s not doing this all for clout.
@ellacorrigan79358 ай бұрын
Having to walk on eggshells so as not to upset ppl's feelings is a huge sign of emotional abuse
@julialarsen96378 ай бұрын
I think it’s good for her to have a friend who treats her like a normal person. She’s isolated enough as it is. Maybe getting out in the world and meeting someone she looks up to will spark something in her mind💗 she still deserves love
@saraNeon118 ай бұрын
You know, Jeffree Star is a lot of things but I think inviting her to visit him and taking her around town, etc is the compassionate side of him that we don’t often get to see. I think he’s genuinely checking in on her and spending time with her and a bunch of strangers on the internet interrogating him on Live about her wellbeing isn’t going to do anyone any good at the end of the day. But well … the fact that she was able to spend time away from home with a friend is a least something.
@tellxbelle8 ай бұрын
She’s been obsessed with Jeffree for years ! I have no doubt if anyone can get through to her it’s be someone like him that she looks up to. I’m honestly really happy seeing her with him seeing her actually happy I think it’s a huge sign of hope for her
@para978 ай бұрын
As an ed survivor social media is DEFINITELY enabling it. When someone had concerns and noticed how skinny I was, I was like „Yeeees its working that I dnt eat for days“… people being concerned does feed into her ed. I wasnt at all skinny like her but still my body was shutting down. Its so sad we have to watch that all happening but you cant force her to get better. You can place someone in a hospital, mental hospital but when they get out it gets the way it was
@HeyImSheb8 ай бұрын
Exactly what I'm saying
@seraa31098 ай бұрын
Yes. A person will not get better until they want to be better. They will not accept help until they accept that they have a problem. The internet is just feeding into it wether its the ones who defend her to no end or the ones who show “concern”. And i think its weird that people were calling the actual police about it.
@kims72878 ай бұрын
@@seraa3109I defend her because nobody deserves to have their entire f***ing existence erased in the name of "help" 😅.. also, anyone who has their own mental disorders is going to have their own unique triggers, you can't stereotype everyone and it's impossible to remove EVERY trigger of every condition from the Internet/TV 😭 that's why people need to be responsible for their own choices and stay off the Internet if they're not emotionally mature enough 🤷
@kristajones72028 ай бұрын
I hope your recovery keeps going forward. And, yeah, people's bodies can shut down from EDs even when carrying fat.
@arielevans92918 ай бұрын
…cool sorry that happen to you but leave her alone. She’s going to do what she’s BEEN doing and if KZfaq could they would. Y’all are HIGHKEY harassing her at this point. Let it tf go she’s a whole adult as sad as it is this isn’t helping her at all. Get off ur high horse
@Jennyhbell8 ай бұрын
At first I thought Jefree didn’t have her best interest at heart and was just asserting himself into a popular topic but now I think he’s just doing what he can. He can’t force her to get treatment, he could try tough love but what good what that do? Would she be receptive to it or would she just be hurt and feel criticized? She’s clearly struggling, he can only be kind to her at this point, enjoy her company and spend quality time with her and pray that she has the strength to save herself. I think we can just send her love and support right now and hope she wins her battle against her demons.
@Ako89268 ай бұрын
Looking back at this, I agree it's all he can do. She had few friends in the past who set up a plan to help saved her. When she found out, she was furious and even called her mom to get her. All around a messed, so I guess Jeffree knew he can'tdo anything..
@renferal52908 ай бұрын
As long as she doesn't want help, there is nothing anyone can do.
@miwfreak43128 ай бұрын
And I don’t think it’s right to be mad at other creators for being her friend
@dillwont92358 ай бұрын
We can ignore her content where many children watch. Her content is dangerous
@renferal52908 ай бұрын
@@dillwont9235 parents need to monitor and educate their children about what they are watching. It really is a shame that KZfaq allows this on their platform
@dillwont92358 ай бұрын
@@renferal5290 yes, parents should but these content creators know who is watching. They get stats. All they care about is $$ not kids.
@renferal52908 ай бұрын
@@dillwont9235 I completely agree. It really is sad
@sybill123ful8 ай бұрын
IM CACKLING AT JEFFREE SAYING HE HAS “too much empathy” 😂🤣 that was a good one
@natalieh93008 ай бұрын
And the dramatic tear wipe 😂
@RP_768 ай бұрын
And the ones falling for it 😂
@MrsJustJessie8 ай бұрын
The fake cry I literally SCREAMED
@anka63568 ай бұрын
@@RP_76 Not everything is either black or white.
@RP_768 ай бұрын
@@anka6356 🤣🤣👌
@ericasanters47118 ай бұрын
I have a best friend with a different mental illness than Eugenia but in the same regard, sometimes there’s nothing you can do to help someone, you can only love them. JS is giving her a reason to get out of bed in the morning that isn’t just to go on stream. They’re having legitimate fun. Let her have at least that guys.
@Sarahkara13138 ай бұрын
This is why Jeffree continues to get away with horrendous shit. He’s using her for views and gifts on TikTok. That’s all. And Eugenia had a history of problematic friends AND mods in her own community - as in predators she ignored and allowed access to her young fans
@rachelhansen24178 ай бұрын
My problem is more the fact that she’s being platformed. It’s a risk to those in his audience who are prone to anorexic tendencies.
@Shibbylovess8 ай бұрын
THIS.
@xDaringMotive8 ай бұрын
that's fine, if jeffree star kept his mouth shut instead of telling her 'haters' she's healthy and to shut up about her health.
@gobsmr8 ай бұрын
@@Sarahkara1313Not everything is so dark and gloomy. I don’t like Jeffree as much as the next person, but bffr. Anyone can tell that he’s a “ride or die” type of guy.
@Scrabbledat8 ай бұрын
What exactly are people implying? Just because she has a mental illness it doesn’t mean she can’t have friends. Wtf?
@K-a-n-d-i-s8 ай бұрын
Exactly it's just stupid
@Katherine_xs8 ай бұрын
Lets not act like Jeffree is a normal friend
@chocoboqueen54988 ай бұрын
I stand with this. Let her have friends and a support system. Eating disorders are complex.
@jessica2brook7 ай бұрын
My mother and sibling had anorexia and I had bulimia. People get help when they want to. You are correct eating disorders are very complex psychological disorders that have very low rates of recovery.
@whodat10178 ай бұрын
I truly hope he’s being a friend to her to encourage her to better herself and not just using her. 😢 I hope she gets better
@nicholevimmerstedt67598 ай бұрын
I have felt bad for Eugenia for years. For her to be so apologetic is so worrisome, no matter what she says that’s a sign of someone being abused in some way. I know I heard Jeffree say he was worried about her before so honestly him reaching out to her and befriending her might be a good thing. He has been through a lot in his life and maybe he can help her even just with giving her more confidence. He obviously cares deeply for her.
@dlarsen3258 ай бұрын
Omg Jeffere calling saying he was so much empathy?! Puuhhhlease. He is the biggest narcissist and has absolutely no empathy for anyone. Jeffere is vile and such a dark human.
@lizzielonglegs19808 ай бұрын
Yeah I think he is quite deluded about himself he may have some caring feelings but he is also really really Mean as well
@nowheregirl27918 ай бұрын
Tbh she isn’t completely innocent either.
@kmari98198 ай бұрын
Jeffree is honestly right about her needing love. Talking about her disorder to her is not going to help her because that’s just not how this works! Please get a clue if you thinking talking about her weight to her is going to help in any way.
@quinshelton22958 ай бұрын
I don't like Jeffree but I also don't think he's necessarily defending her. If he cut her off, he couldn't help her at all. He can be her friend and help her through it without supporting her anorexia and issues. Emotional support is important for someone who clearly isn't well mentally or physically. They both deserve to be cancelled but they can be cancelled together.
@Sarahkara13138 ай бұрын
He’s using her. That’s all. He will drop her just like every other KZfaqr he’s gone through a phase with
@quinshelton22958 ай бұрын
@@Sarahkara1313 I can see that too, but it’s also hard for me to tell bc I’m not behind the scenes. I don’t think either one of them are great so it’s hard to decide if the friendship is but 🤷🏼♀️
@Sarahkara13138 ай бұрын
@@quinshelton2295 I think Jeffree has shown us PLENTY in FRONT of the scenes to draw an educated conclusion that he’s a sht person who can’t be trusted
@SuperWeenieHutJuniors8 ай бұрын
Tbh she looks happy. Even if she doesn't change at least she'll be spending her last days with her idol.
@sybill123ful8 ай бұрын
jesus christ the bar is so low in every instance. this is what we see as happy? THATS what should be seen as an idol?
@laur838 ай бұрын
@@sybill123fuli don’t think the OP agrees with the statement, but looking at it from eugenia’s perspective. she’s always come across as a big fan of jeffree’s and she used and reviews his makeup frequently. so if this is her feeling happy and with someone she herself idolises, then i guess good for her. but from the outside, it’s just two toxic people coming together.
@SuperWeenieHutJuniors8 ай бұрын
@@sybill123ful wow you totally missed the point. It's not about what "WE" think is best for her. She is a grown woman in charge of her own life. People have been trying to get her help for years. But you can't force a grown woman to make that decision. I don't like Jeffree but if he makes her happy, especially while she's experiencing what may be the end stage of her disorder, then let her have her version of happiness. The bar is only "as low" as you believe it to be. Eugenia, on the other hand, is living her life.
@BloodSweatandFears8 ай бұрын
Exactly she’s not going to live much longer, let her be happy for once!
@d3monsn0wkitty8 ай бұрын
Thank you OP. I agree. Life is very cruel. If she’s happy hanging out with him in her last days, let her be. It’s better then sitting in her room alone.
@kellevichy8 ай бұрын
"Concern" is a strange way to call bullying and harassment that she's plagued with. She's the punching bag of the internet and it's disgusting.
@erinnicole31708 ай бұрын
I've seen clips of her livestreaming and people telling her she looked pregnant. It was sickening.
@marlenechicoine40058 ай бұрын
And yet she chooses to stream, like 15 hours a day.
@m3g_h4n8 ай бұрын
@@marlenechicoine4005mental illness:/
@rebeccaspratling28658 ай бұрын
@@marlenechicoine4005so she's not allowed to stream because of the mentally ill bullies like you that are obsessed with her? You want to bully her off the internet?
@lucydyamond36588 ай бұрын
Here’s the thing: regardless of Jefree’s intentions with the collab, it is NOT his place to comment on Eugenia’s situation. He absolutely shouldn’t be answering questions about her, and it is inappropriate to redirect those questions to her when they were just having a little hang out. (Again, regardless of what the other intentions may or may not have been.) Giving Eugenia all this attention is feeding her ED, and we as fans and watchers haven’t been able to help her yet, and probably won’t be able to help her. If anything, even if he is a fake friend, Jeffree reminding her to stop apologizing for no reason, and to stand up for her by not answering those questions/responding to those comments, probably made her feel more comfortable and safe. Ultimately, the only thing that can help her is her, and until she’s able to at LEAST ask for help, she’s giving to carry on as usual. I hope that the people in her life are offering her love and care, and that she does someday recover.
@k_pufflz8 ай бұрын
The thing is if anyone could out manipulate an enabler Munchausen by proxy mother it’d be a slime like jeffree and he could easily manipulate Eugenia into getting help, making her think it was her idea, and becoming internet hero ‘protector bringer of lambs into his flock blah blah blah’ 🙄 I don’t think that would redeem him at all but like if his nasty ways could have a net positive then I mean why shouldn’t he
@AyitaLightfoot6228 ай бұрын
True
@brees38 ай бұрын
He's had that "I'm a mentor. I'm a big brother." thing forever and he knows it doesn't stick/redeem him so I don't think he'd do it for that reason. I do see a world in which him rescuing her and/or publicly feuding with her mom is something he does for engagement though. Like how he conveniently reminds the world every six months he has secret SA allegations against James Charles
@darcidarling70208 ай бұрын
Jeffrey Star grew up around alcoholic family members and his dad committed suicide so if anybody knows how to manipulate the situation it would be Jeffree Star!!!
@ashleyl.84478 ай бұрын
Can someone explain what Jeffree did and why he’s cancelled or something. I’m so confused
@nouraa3428 ай бұрын
the people who try to “help” are bullying her so much . pathetic
@zariyahfiyahofficial8 ай бұрын
I think it’s nice. He’s allowing her to be herself. He knows she needs help, but you don’t make someone better by casting them out. She seems so sweet and needs friends. I would thank Jeffree for hanging out with her. I would hang out with them. She’s just insecure and her parents, or whoever, brought down her self confidence. My dad was SUPER controlling and did the same shit to me… I get it.
@GabeAnthony-qy3hm8 ай бұрын
I get it though, in a way he clearly sees that she hasn’t, or will never receive help. So he’s like making her feel some support while she’s still here with us. You wouldn’t understand unless you had a friend you seen in the deep end, and there’s nothing you can do but support them through their dark moments, but ultimately if they make any life altering/changing decisions that is up to them. There’s only so much someone can do.
@suan3338 ай бұрын
She had true real friends, not internet ones, who care for her and did everything they could so she could be admitted to a facility to help cure her ED. She didn't care. Later she tried to paint them as villains in her life. She knows she has an ED and she doesn't give af about herself. At this point i think she loves the attention she receives and how she looks.
@LUN43218 ай бұрын
@@suan333 this makes you sound really ignorant and uneducated. If you’d ever seen the inside of the “treatment plans” of standard inpatient stays first hand you wouldn’t have this perspective. It has nothing to do with not caring. It’s not adequate health care for someone with as severe as a condition as her and it’s also VERY traumatic for most people. Please do some reflection on this cause this was an insanely disconnected, uneducated take and also very rude. She’s struggling. No one would choose this for themselves.
@suan3338 ай бұрын
@@LUN4321 🤷🏻♀️
@GabeAnthony-qy3hm8 ай бұрын
@@suan333 Mental health isn’t something that’s linear, there’s peaks and valleys that happened throughout the journey. You are telling someone else’s story. I can certainly understand where you’re viewpoint, but I like I said in my original comment. It gets to a point where there is only so much you can do for a friend, or a loved one. Ultimately I think when that point is reached, you should let them have autonomy over their own individualized thoughts and body. It’s the least you can do honestly.
@suan3338 ай бұрын
@@GabeAnthony-qy3hm an that's why at this point I don't feel bad for her, because is known that if a person doesn't want to get better, they are not gonna do it no matter how much the people around them try to. And she obviously knows what's wrong with her but doesn't want to do anything about it.
@Wakenbaketv8 ай бұрын
So she’s not allowed to have friends bc she has a disorder? The masses are being INSANE about her. Yes, she’s sick and it’s scary! We’re all worried, but to harass her while she’s just trying to enjoy herself?! Come. ON. This is horrible and I’m so sick of people trying to say she isn’t allowed to live her life just bc she has a severe health issue. Leave her alone man. And one more thing. You can’t help someone who doesn’t WANT HELP. PERIOD.
@IvoryeneMusic8 ай бұрын
exactly
@Cynthiaa.c5418 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but I wouldn't be friends with a crackhead I wouldn't wanna see someone suffer and not try to help them
@Cynthiaa.c5418 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but I wouldn't be friends with a crackhead I wouldn't wanna see someone suffer and not try to help them
@Wakenbaketv8 ай бұрын
@@Cynthiaa.c541 So you know them personally?
@MackyAttack8 ай бұрын
Jeffree is definitely using her
@duckie39618 ай бұрын
I think if she's going to keep being online and posting, then i dont blame people for being kind to her. Being friends with her. Showing empathy. You can still be a supportive friend, and want whats best for them. Want them healthy. Shes going to do what SHE wants. So for her to lose friends and support because "fans" think people are doing something bad by being a good friend? What ever. She does clearly need help. But why not be friends and maybe you can help influence her positively OFFline??
@sybill123ful8 ай бұрын
💀💀💀 you genuinely think jeffree star cares to be a supportive friend of anyone,
@laur838 ай бұрын
absolutely true. it’s never so one dimensional when trying to help someone in a difficult situation. i think a lot of the backlash just comes from how problematic they both are and jeffree’s track record of not being a very good person.
@Sadlittlecloud8 ай бұрын
Exactly everyone is all like “destigmatize mental Illness.” yet don’t think Eugenia is worthy of love, or having a friend. She lives w her ED it doesn’t need to be a talking point everyday..
@seraa31098 ай бұрын
He’s not being kind or a friend. He is using her to generate interest in himself on the internet.
@LexxG8 ай бұрын
I think it’s positive for her to start spending time away from her mother. Her family is letting her wither a way. It’s terrifying. Being around friends and not them I think could be beneficial
@deannaroe36568 ай бұрын
Wow so we’re shaming them for being friends? So should she be alone? What a twisted logic.
@sob.prince8 ай бұрын
It’s so weird and almost creepy how Eugenia literally just puppets everything Jeffrey says like she doesn’t have a single thought in her brain
@unapologeticallyb50688 ай бұрын
For some context, long term anorexia causes significant brain fog and neurological deficits. That's why she's like this I don't think she's dumb, I think her brain is dying
@mirandafitch10138 ай бұрын
She has no original thoughts. She legit only agrees with Jeffree. Lmao
@Sarahkara13138 ай бұрын
That’s why Jeffree is using her now. She’s easy to take advantage of
@tesspalmer9928 ай бұрын
If you watch rich lux's interview she does eventually the same thing for an hour
@fragilefleur8 ай бұрын
She’s learned this behavior. It gets her what she wants and needs and doesn’t cause conflict by being a super toxic people pleaser. It’s self destructive but it seems to be the relationship she lives in daily with her mom. She’s very sick and has so much to deal with and preventing conflict is her learned manipulation to feel safe. This is a trauma response. She clearly has major trauma and I don’t think it’s just school bullies. She will keep the peace to the death of herself. Jeffree sees through it but I think knows he can’t fix her and so he’s just dragging her around like a little sister who you don’t really know what to do with but envelop her into the daily routine and show her the cute animals and not so cute guns while he waits to pickup an order. Lol. I dunno. Even if he gains from her presence it’s just super sad. She’s got some big bad issues underlying her ED and at her age who knows what the potential for survival is. Showing her guns, to me, is the last thing I would do to someone who seeks so messed up. They are like two kids from a toxic family trying to make normal out of not normal childhoods and poor coping skills learned as a result.
@iffyangel33808 ай бұрын
Her gums no longer have any color! It's tragic to see her doing this to herself. What's more tragic is her mother and her so called friend profiting off her. 😢
@Sadlittlecloud8 ай бұрын
Literally, how is he profiting off of her?? By spending time with her?? Taking her out to dinner? Is she not allowed to have a friend?
@Sadlittlecloud8 ай бұрын
Jeffree even said this is the first time she’s getting out of the house in a long time bc she doesn’t trust anyone.. how is this not a good thing?
@msBuddiez1018 ай бұрын
That's severe iron deficiency and dehydration
@iffyangel33808 ай бұрын
@@msBuddiez101 yup!
@ema20318 ай бұрын
I cant believe she still has teeth.
@pettybee38608 ай бұрын
Damn. Everybody's just succumbed to the fact that she's practically dead and we can't blame each other either
@revandenburg8 ай бұрын
I'm conflicted with the visit. I don't trust Jeffree...AT ALL. I'm really wondering WHY he extended the invite to her. Was it because of the 'live' where he purposely managed to get Eugenia 'disconnected' from the call, and screamed laughing LITERALLY rolling on the floor saying 5150 BITCH!! while the other 2 callers were laughing with him. I would say he feels bad about that. But that would be admitting he may have a conscience. I don't think he really cares. I think he doesn't want to get Cancelled AGAIN. Being friends with Jeffree is like being friends with a Cobra.
@bethb44328 ай бұрын
He wasn’t even listening to a word she said. He just wants to start more drama per usual. 🙄
@morganhope7248 ай бұрын
It’s always SOMETHING with him
@mindfullyhere8 ай бұрын
its how he stays relevant
@Sadlittlecloud8 ай бұрын
Y’all are so Nasty.. Eugenia is worthy of love and friendships too.
@haleyhez8 ай бұрын
He is sooooo using this for some sort of gain or profit, while she thinks she has a real friend in him. I know she's participating, but her mental state is very unwell. Jeffree at least knows better, it's not a regular "collab". He knows that this will draw attention to him, whether he becomes her martyr, has drama channels talking, gives attention to his new launch, or she (pray to god not) unfortunately passes and he makes it all about him & how he was such a good person to her. Either way, he's helping her use her deadly illness for benefit. I pray he gets her help or that I'm wrong. Let's stop covering it please, it's feeding the fire. He's already yelled & snapped at her when they were on live last night, made jokes about her in the past, but now she's his "sister" as he went on live last night while she was at his house talking about, "I have so much empathy." This is all for his ego & gain, we know Jeffree y'all.
@dazzlingforests13738 ай бұрын
Omg I thought that too. He’s despicable
@jamie31768 ай бұрын
Yeah he literally just looks annoyed w/her
@Kikithewildling8 ай бұрын
How? Shame on him but how is he profiting off her?
@autumn51308 ай бұрын
Yes, he needs her for a profit. LMFAO he doesn't need the money, but ok.
@lmpnw28368 ай бұрын
She’s profiting off him too. People buy into her “omg be nice” act but she’s the first to jump on any collabs as well!
@wendolin8 ай бұрын
She's a human being people need to remember that.
@thesegotoeleven31118 ай бұрын
J is grabbing at straws for views
@happytownesvanzandt8 ай бұрын
LITERALLY. Her arms are twigs.
@stephblueflicky8 ай бұрын
Is she the new Manny mua repeating everything Jeffree says 😂😂😂
@CHIPICHIPICHAPACHAAPA8 ай бұрын
It's quite the irony from Jeffree to say ''we need love and not hate''
@ileGL8 ай бұрын
I understand not wanting to promote Euginia but also let her have friends? It must be even worse for her if she was isolated... I don't know how to feel tbh. I know Jeffrey is not a good human being but also who else wants to get close to Euginia if she has a "toxic brand" ☹️
@karenputnam65605 ай бұрын
EUGENIA is dying. Nothing anyone says or does will help her. As much as I dislike Jeffree ( and all people like him ) I believe that he is offering something that she needs and wants. Both of them are obviously incapable of a healthy relationship, but it works for them.
@bitchystrawberrytidalwave87038 ай бұрын
I want to know if she's really eating with him.
@Nanaluna168 ай бұрын
Jeffree knows she will get him views. He doesn’t give a shit about her.
@thesegotoeleven31118 ай бұрын
agree- if he wanted to help her with the visit, fine. why film and broadcast it?
@gianna56428 ай бұрын
Everytime he goes live and giving us updates. He's using her visit for views its so disgusting
@FairFlower0058 ай бұрын
I think it’s good she’s leaving her house and town and seeing friends independently. Maybe Jeffery will help her open up and get better.
@PLZstandBYEEE8 ай бұрын
How would all creators isolating her and never interacting with her help her in any way shape or form
@reneem61758 ай бұрын
I think people need to just stop talking about her all together. The more her platform grows the more impressionable people will be harmed. We all want to support her and help her to get better and the best way to do that IMO is to stop feeding into her disorder with all of our views and comments.
@a.k.a.Kaitlyn8 ай бұрын
There is this part of me thats kinda hoping that maybe, possibly, Jeffrey will talk her into going to treatment. Let her have a few days of freedom and fun, and then talk her into going. But thats wishful thinking on my part, I know!! I just feel like he can use this opportunity to turn this whole thing around.
@Mikayla_58 ай бұрын
I don't care about who she chooses to spend time with. I just want her to not get hurt and for her to get better.
@Shantebaker8 ай бұрын
Like Of Herbs and Alters has said recently, I think Eugenia is sadly on her way out. At the point of no return. She's made it very clear that she'd rather die than recover, and I think people around her have finally come to realize that and just want her to be happy and comfortable until the end. I do think Jeffree truly does feel sorry for her. That said, I don’t believe there's a genuine bone in that man's body. He knows appearing with her will bring him attention. As soon as she's gone, he's going to be the first person interviewing with podcasts and journalists about her.
@meganclow69598 ай бұрын
It's one thing to hang out with her, it's another thing to blatantly lie and say she is healthy and she is fine. He is just another person enabling her and using her for views
@tigerofwu8 ай бұрын
Why these two have supporters is mind boggling.
@AyitaLightfoot6228 ай бұрын
Right?
@aaaabbbbyyyy8 ай бұрын
Them doing lives side by side is so incredibly uncomfortable, and Eugenia kissing Jeffree’s ass yet he didn’t even look at her was sickening
@idalarsson47298 ай бұрын
I know that this is no laughing matter, that girl is sick and needs help with her disorder. But I couldn’t keep my face straight when Jeffery said; I’ve got so much empathy. He’s sure as hell not empathetic when he and his friends fat shamed Trisha!
@AmazingAmy668 ай бұрын
The reason people don't feel Eugenia is good for people is because of her ED/health. She keeps insisting nothing is wrong which sets a bad example. Plus she body checks which is also not good to expose to children/teens who see her online.
@DavidKen8788 ай бұрын
Do you say the same thing about morbidly obese people? I highly doubt it.
@isabelalmedarodriguez3388 ай бұрын
@@DavidKen878 not you acting like people weren't fat shamed all the time, and let's be real, you rarely find someone who wants to look and be obese, considering that in tik tok and twitter there is a big ana/mia comunity young people rater look like Eugenia.
@chiquiii8 ай бұрын
@@isabelalmedarodriguez338omg yes lmfoaooo I hate when people say “stop promoting obesity” like nobody wants to be obese!!!! More people would rather look like Eugenia then Amberlynn. Let’s be fr fr .
@kellevichy8 ай бұрын
God forbid someone suffering through something DOESN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. She doesn't know the internet talking about it. Treat her like a human being, maybe.
@isabelalmedarodriguez3388 ай бұрын
@@chiquiii people are just in denial, in videos about my 600 pound life there is not a single soul saying that they love the look and would eat they way to look like that, and me, without having to look to much into it, had found young girls saying they are envious of Eugenia and even sharing tips on how to lose weight that are just unhealthy, a lot of these girls seems to also be fans of kpop idols, who must are known because they have terrible restrictive diets. sorry if i had mistakes english is not my first language but the message is clear.
@K-a-n-d-i-s8 ай бұрын
What else could he possibly do apart from widen her circle?? It's all he can do is what he's doing, he can't do anything else, it's not even down to him to do anything either.
@KaelWrit8 ай бұрын
Jeffrey Star is a terrible person but it's weird to say she should be socially isolated *BECAUSE* she is so visibly sick?! Im surprised people are saying that. She needs HELP to get any better. She needs friends. Not toxic people like Star though.
@onionsbroccoli-on6jf8 ай бұрын
Who knows, maybe he can help her. He has the money, and maybe he can her. Sometimes you need someone out of your zone.
@KaelWrit8 ай бұрын
@@onionsbroccoli-on6jfyea when I needed help during abuse my friend group was not the best people and it was harmful in some ways but they also kinda saved me. A healthier friend group would have been better but if it's the best you got it's better than nothing. If it helps on her journey and doesn't make it worse, that's better than nothing. She is at serious risk of dying.
@mandycastle90428 ай бұрын
She doesn't want help. She cut off friends that had her 5150'd, and has made it clear time and time again that she just wants to be this way. You cannot help someone that categorically refuses it every step of the way. Eugenia loves the attention she gets, she flaunts herself online all day, and mocks the people that make comments regarding concern for her health or habits. When will people accept it for what it is. The best thing everyone can do is to just not follow, interact, care or engage.
@onionsbroccoli-on6jf8 ай бұрын
@@mandycastle9042 I have been reading a lot of people who have claimed to have gone through a 5150, and they said it was horrific. It made it actually much worse on them as a person, and they got even more sick after the experience. Being forced into something like that, doesn’t seem to typically help the person in the long run. Probably should have of gotten her away from her family instead, imo.
@mandycastle90428 ай бұрын
@@onionsbroccoli-on6jf I agree with you on getting her away from her family. I know nothing about treatment conditions for a 5150, however as she didn't want any help of any kind, forced help seemed to be the only option for her friends at the time.
@TheStorytellersBox8 ай бұрын
As terrible of a person as Jeffery has been online I think this might actually be a potentially healthy thing for her. I’ve watched videos from ED recovery specialists who have said that your support system is key and that all the people continuing to engage negatively with her comments were likely feeding the disorder more than they were helping. I’m not convinced her mom is actively harming her so much as being in over her head but either way spending time alone with other adults who sound like they are feeding her or at least providing her the option of food is likely to be at least a little helpful
@isisaphrodite35858 ай бұрын
This video didn’t include the disturbing videos they made. This one makes Jeffree Star look like he’s actually being a supporting friend, and I would have believed it, if I didn’t see those other videos they don’t want you to see.
@TheStorytellersBox8 ай бұрын
@@isisaphrodite3585 oh yikes! disappointed but I believe it
@lexburgess24368 ай бұрын
The fact that they went to restaurants together, gives me some hope for Eugeina. I honestly believe spending time away from home and having fun with a friend for a while, will do her good ♥
@gallopvaly1238 ай бұрын
she clearly needs a friend, why do ppl hate her for not getting better then hate her for having support?
@lunaloveless72348 ай бұрын
Hot take but maybe it's not a bad thing that Eugenia actually has a friend that isn't part of her family and has someone that doesn't focus on it with her which we all know doesn't help the disorder anyways. It's interesting her mom trusts this arrangement and maybe he's just worried about staying in a good place with them so he can try to intervene with it more strategically.
@SweetLala258 ай бұрын
Wouldn't the best thing for her be to completely ignore her? Clearly all the attention is going into the "I need to stay this thin for views" mentality. People wishing her well, wanting better for and hoping she gets healthy isn't doing good for her because what then? If she gained the right amount of weight and looked healthier, she'd lose the thousands of people who shower her with the attention she's receiving. I don't know it personally but sadly I've seen it first hand.
@Kikithewildling8 ай бұрын
The police in Eugenia’s city say that she is fine & has a good relationship with her mom. They also say they can’t force her to eat. She has a secret code she uses to tell the officers that is okay. The best thing to do is stop talking about her, watching her, stop making videos about her. You literally validate her and get her views. This gives her no incentive to get better. Shame on Jefree Star. He’s the court jester of gaslighting.
@explore_with_em_x8 ай бұрын
I follow a British woman who is a Ano survivor, she’s been in and out of facilities and had been at the stage Eugenia is at now and knows all the stages of the ED. I watched her latest video about EC last week and she said that in her opinion, with her experience, Eugenia is at the point on no return now and if she doesn’t get help right now, she won’t have much longer, which is really upsetting to hear from someone who knows what Eugenia is going through. I mean it’s good to see her out the house but she needs to step away from social media and work on herself. But I don’t think there’s any chance of that.
@KarlaGarcia-ng4dq8 ай бұрын
He's so obnoxious.. she's so sweet .. he sounds so uninterested in her conversation he keeps cutting her off
@Matias-cx3wg8 ай бұрын
It's so ironic how he talks about... positive energy, good vibes...
@ghosttd0ll1048 ай бұрын
I can't believe anything this man says or does. An also, if Eugenia opened to him and talked about her struggles, then that's it! I think she denies it because 1. she feels embarrassment (I felt that, I have AN too), or 2, she doesn't want to get help again.
@Anr12318 ай бұрын
Jeffeee knew he would get attention for this If y’all were jus hanging out doing make up then do it Why record it or be live? He knows what he’s doing girl
@newjaye8 ай бұрын
I’m nervous about the young, vulnerable girls she might inspire. Why does everything have to be on camera? Be her friend off camera. Seriously, the glamorization of this illness is very disturbing.
@carriethompson848 ай бұрын
I think it's sweet that he's showing her compassion & love.. just her having that love & friendship may make her realize how "worth it" she really is. She's experiencing alot of firsts & I believe that love still wins in the end. I'm not hating any of this ❤
@kelsiismirliesmusic8 ай бұрын
... Did anyone notice that in every video of them together, she just compliments him OR repeats EXACTLY what he says... its interesting...
@meriaehkarey16218 ай бұрын
He literally wants to watch her die so that he has an excuse to act all dramatic and sad when such event happens. ‘Omg guys I can’t believe it I knew her personally so it hurts more’ 😢😢😢😢😢
@Elhastezy8888 ай бұрын
Eugenia Goth Pallette Out Soon After
@meriaehkarey16218 ай бұрын
@@Elhastezy888 purrrrr
@deathrays8 ай бұрын
the problem is her impressionable audience, who don't understand that she is really sick. and who will believe her every word, when she says she's fine and jeffree is so nice. jeffree is a predator, he's evil, manipulative. he's racist. and a liar. he says he's been friends with her for 15 years but it's been proven that they only started communicating this year. he's protecting her because he also has an ED and he uses drugs. and Eugenia is normalizing that, and Jeffree is normalizing her behavior too. it's so wrong.
@jensta59958 ай бұрын
Enabler!! She needs a medical team!! Using her for views
@katie.parsons8 ай бұрын
He’s using her for views and comments, he knows she would say yes to hanging and she’s too scared to upset anyone so she wouldn’t say anything negative about him
@angiesaunders55948 ай бұрын
I want to thank Jeffrey for his kindness.
@squixiee8 ай бұрын
I'm all for them being friends, you do you. The problem I'm having is her being on social media, and not only that but being PROMOTED
@xpatriciadanielle8 ай бұрын
Fact is: he is right. She needs love and he helps her see what it's like when you are sure about yourself. He shows her a whole other side while at the same time understanding her when it comes to toxic family and upbringing. He might be helping her, he might give her a good time as long as it lasts. But there is no need for Eugenia to be bullied and to be pushed in this cage where she has to stay untill she heals or dies. And that's what a lot of people do. I hope there is time and a chance to heal for herself. Either way, I wish her nothing but the best.
@DickiesReceipt8 ай бұрын
Nice of Jstar to take her out for some fun before she croaks over
@christinevb38618 ай бұрын
Ohhh to be a fly on the wall…..
@kimicope_8 ай бұрын
I think it's a great sign that shes talking about eating lunch and dinner! She used to never she would just say she ate. It's also great that he's with her and isn't forcing her. Jaclyn had the best intentions. Everyone claims that shane caused the relapse but imo ambushing someone into rehab in which probably felt like shock, the fact it was a 5150 and she was in a mental health facility and not in a true rehab for eds, sent her right back into relapse. That is the worst way to attempt recovery. Now in her mind she thinks getting help means being in a mental hospital. Who knows, maybe she will move in with Jeffree, honestly it would be good to be around people her age that are friends especially if she doesn't feel comfortable living alone
@liahlong88238 ай бұрын
I'm glad you pointed out how apologetic Eugenia is about everything. Tbh I think it's manipulation on her part. She's acting like she needs to defend herself over things that nobody even mentions or cares about cause she's scared of "haters". She knows that nobody cares about that bs. She knows what people are saying about her and what people care about, and she doesn't want to address it. She wants to act like everyone just hates her for no reason and everyone is just "mean" lol.
@whatsherface81108 ай бұрын
That could be it but also if she is being abused my her mom, a lot of people with trauma become overly apologetic over anything they do
@kaitlynhadley44538 ай бұрын
It’s been long acknowledged that Eugenia’s mother is an enabler, Jeffree has removed her from that scenario, I think he is helping her.
@sunshine711sn28 ай бұрын
Thank you Jeffrey for taking her out and abt and being an normal adult doing normal adult things. I think he was being compassionate and I knw Jeffrey was asking her behind the scenes what's going on with her and her health in a private and compassionate way. He will address it but its NONE of our business how he does. A good friend doesnt need to publicly announce that he's helping her. Geez guys, not everything is our business!!!! Let them have fun together it isn't that deep.
@ai-meeding9598 ай бұрын
My thing with Eugenia is that a lot of ED survivors have come out to say that what she is doing is very problematic to the ED community and that she is feeding into Pro-Ana rhetoric with her content. Also her being friends with Jeffrey also just says a lot about who she is as well. Both of them are problematic and shouldn’t have platforms in my opinion, they’re both very harmful especially to young impressionable minds.
@ai-meeding9598 ай бұрын
it's not about "liking" or "disliking" them it's about how harmful they are to the poeple that watch them, eugenia feeds into people's eating disorders, educate yourself.@@cjjohnson7095
@IvoryeneMusic8 ай бұрын
just bc he's being nice to her doesn't make it "enabling"
@ninjabunny16548 ай бұрын
When he said get out I got so scared I almost dropped my phone.🤣🤣
@happytownesvanzandt8 ай бұрын
Desperate for views is our poor Jeff.
@idcfunny12178 ай бұрын
Did she try some yak meat 🤣🤣🤣
@laur838 ай бұрын
bruh 😂😂😂😂
@Unbanable4208 ай бұрын
Bet she ate Jeffery's meat
@tashmdizzle8 ай бұрын
she obviously needs friends. To hate on someone for making a friend is wild.
@Heyitsdes18 ай бұрын
I feel like she was yelled at so much as a child 😢 poor soul. Sick mother.