4 years ago I posted a video showing off the SC in Dirty Bomb and for some reason this one comment stuck with me. It was something like "yeah, the gyro stuff looks alright for casual play but when you pulled out your pistol your aim went everywhere." Since that day I've found a way to have a "semi-auto" mode -- either a button, or a mode shift, or a Chord, something -- that gives me turbo shooting. I never wanted to sacrifice my aim like that again.

Couldn't agree more. I still dream about playing Space Pirate Training. VR FPS is a blast and there is nothing else like it.

@@criticalinput I already like the more realistic aiming and shooting, but what really convinced me was watching flat game play of SuperHot. I had only played SH in vr, and when I watched the flat gaming video it looked... waaaaaaay less dynamic and cool (no disrespect to the joyshockmapper/flickstick dude)

You could make the right pad mouse, lower the sensitivity all the way so it doesn't respond, increase the size of the outering and switch to a layer or action set. This would allow you to use button press on the pad while still utilizing the radial menu.

The way I have it set up has a Center Button on the Radial Menu where nothing is sent. I could have a Click Action on the Radial and only click it in the center to get the same effect. The benefit to your setup is that you can control the size of the inner click and the outer ring menu, which would be huge for most people. I've put enough time into these oddball configs that my thumb naturally sits in the center of the pad now though.

Yeah that was my issue trying this out. I guess my thumb rest a little left of center. This gave me more area to rest my thumb.

LT is a mode shift simply because I I change more than just the sensitivity.

Whatever is most comfortable. The Higher Sensitivity Gyro also has smoothing, MMT, and acceleration on it so there isn't exactly an easily transferable frame of reference since various factors can change the ratio between the input and output.

@@criticalinput comfortable? Is the high sensitivity mode adequate for not just navigation, but for basic targeting such as item pickup or maybe even "hip fire", or do you have to use the left trigger mode for that?

@@davidyoung9289 The lower sensitivity is honestly a crutch for more precise aiming. The goal is really to use the high sensitivity with med/high acceleration and get a feel for both low speed turning (low sens) and quick turning (high sens) and get rid of the lower sensitivity entirely. But not a lot of users (myself included) can do that. However, I'm getting better at using the higher sensitivity for hip fire spraying, though I'd never be able to do a long range, unscoped precision shot with it.

@@criticalinput so after trying this a week, I'm hitting some small issues maybe you have an opinion about: -The touch menu and radial have some latency, they don't fire until the menu is drawn. Solution is dpad, but you're limited to 5 buttons. (4 since one button is null) this is only an issue if you lift thumb for buttons though! If you're just sliding, then it's no issue. - cannot target the center of the radial well. I think the center "dead zone" on radial is too small, I don't think it is configurable either. solved with either touch menu (7 item menu had a large center button) or I put my null binding on the left side of the pad where my thumb rests. - the weirdest one: my right thumb now gets sore after a relatively short session. Counterintuitive, since the thumb now doesn't move very much at all. Wondering if you noticed this much yourself when you stopped using aiming on your thumbstick or touchpad.

@@davidyoung9289 You're quite correct about your first two discoveries. The small input delay from needing the menu drawn is why I typically keep my thumb in the "deadzone" of the radial at all times and slide to the various actions rather than tapping them from a non-touched state. I really only release my thumb to reset my hand position. As for the "deadzone" area being small and not modifiable, I think I just got used to it. I remember having issues with accidental inputs when I first started by now my finger just naturally rests in the middle. Unfortunately the physical size and shape of your hand does have some control over this factor, though you found a good workaround by simply changing which button on the Radial was the "deadzone." As for thumb pain, I never got any with the SC -- either with a swiping config or this radial menu based one. I wonder if you are simply extending it in ways that you don't when you are swiping since with swiping you start and end at positions that are comfortable for YOU but with a Radial you have set points on the pad that your thumb is required to go to. Just a guess though. It might sound a bit ridiculous but you could try doing some thumb stretches or exercises before playing. I started doing them (as well as hand and wrist stuff) late last year and I'm feeling a lot less pain when using controllers or typing. Levi Harrison is a doctor that specializes in hands and wrists and has some really great videos on youtube. You could start with this one which is designed specifically for the primary finger and thumbs -- the two most used digits when gaming. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldp5i7p0mNOZf6c.html

This overview was done by request. I do have a couple of videos that were started months ago that I want to finish but I'm not actively using the SC right now.

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Probably not going to happen. I've tried Warframe a couple of times and I simply don't enjoy it. The combat is par none and I often say it's the Platinum Games of the shooter genre but every other system is infuriating.

Yeah, it's all platinum... and it's very infuriating that they have systems such as basically a slot machine to get prime parts through relics or even furs despite of already having purchased all the colors for your armor and ship (and yes, you have to buy colors here... it's ridicule.. some of them not even work fine despite of being a shade away)

I think that what I like about WF is having the advantage by using the Steam Controller to bullet jump, crouch and jump with the paddles that I can't see in any other game.. Maybe Doom Eternal would feel similarly provided the double dash and climbing, but still it's not as if you were bullet jumping as in WF.

Yeah, WF has some phenomenal combat mechanics that really aren't replicated anywhere else in the industry. I would love for there to be a full priced, single player game in the WF universe that uses the exact same combat options. But all of the timers and drop rates and investment required to get anywhere are a huge turn off for me.

I might put together a montage but I'm no pro so don't expect much :)

@@criticalinput No pressure here mate :D I can barely play shooters using Steam controller (Just really hard to get used to after years of Mouse and keyboard experience), and even mediocre gameplay with using such controls looks fascinating for me.

Thanks for the reminder. I'll get that added when I'm at my computer next.