"Nikola Jokic is HIGHER ALL-TIME Than Kevin Durant" | Reacting To Hot Takes!

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10 ай бұрын

Damian Lillard, Kevin Durant, Nikola Jokic and more are all the focus of today's edition of Hot Takes with Rusty Buckets from your tweets.

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@Other_Robots
@Other_Robots 10 ай бұрын
Durant is that kinda player you add to a talented team to give them the boost they need while Jokic is the dude you get to elevate a team as a whole
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 10 ай бұрын
?liar
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr 10 ай бұрын
If durant had Jamal Murray as his point instead of Westbrook. Plus durant played better competitive heat team and western conference team compared to jokics.
@manbo1213
@manbo1213 10 ай бұрын
@@curtiszyryou think Jamal Murray is better than prime Westbrook, lmaooooo
@joskaizer9521
@joskaizer9521 10 ай бұрын
​@@curtiszyrIF JOKIC HAD CURRY HE WOULD HAVE 7 RINGS
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr 10 ай бұрын
@@joskaizer9521 obviously you’re just reading to reply and not comprehend. I’m saying when he was clearly the number option with Westbrook and one of the worst pacing in the league on a contending team .
@starwarsnewsandmemes8289
@starwarsnewsandmemes8289 10 ай бұрын
I'd personally rank KD higher than Jokic right now due to his longevity, but since Jokic is still significantly younger, him passing KD down the road is totally realistic.
@emilioreyes4159
@emilioreyes4159 10 ай бұрын
Jokic has done more in less years, how does KD's longevity help him?
@moralesglitxhh27
@moralesglitxhh27 10 ай бұрын
only way jokic doesn’t pass up KD is if he retires and never player another game. Other than that, Jokic is passing up KD in due time
@mihir702
@mihir702 10 ай бұрын
Jokic has already done more in less years, unless we’re only pure ring counting. Jokic one ring as the unquestioned leader and best player lifting Denver to a title Carrie’s more weight than KD’s two rings from the superteam Warriors
@somregularguy
@somregularguy 10 ай бұрын
@@emilioreyes4159I mean idk, KD even as weak as the warriors 2017-2018 runs are, he was still the FMVP on a team with Steph Curry so that does count for something
@condog209
@condog209 10 ай бұрын
@@emilioreyes4159 the problem is that people Jumped KD way too high ( I've seen him be ranked top 15) and they don't think jokic is there either So the problem is KD got placed too high in the first place
@machoboys8884
@machoboys8884 10 ай бұрын
HOT TAKE: Bill Murray saved Jordan’s legacy
@PowerIsThatGuy
@PowerIsThatGuy 10 ай бұрын
Who is Bill Murray? Bron got saved by Allen and Kyrie
@marshallnelson6127
@marshallnelson6127 10 ай бұрын
@@PowerIsThatGuy Bill Murray was an actor in space jam bruh 🤣 always gotta immediately jump to “bUt leBrOn” lol
@Buttington_Headerson
@Buttington_Headerson 10 ай бұрын
@@PowerIsThatGuy”Who is Bill Murray?” :/ this fills me with infinite sadness
@_Larzy
@_Larzy 10 ай бұрын
@@Buttington_Headersonsame
@jamariyoung6322
@jamariyoung6322 10 ай бұрын
@@PowerIsThatGuy 🙄
@buri8915
@buri8915 10 ай бұрын
Honestly Jokics chip is worth more than KDs 2 and him literally gettin Wilt Chamberlain PER with already 2 MVPs… in 5 yrs its not even worth the arguement
@TMALGoated
@TMALGoated 10 ай бұрын
How? By being the first seed and almost winning a 3 peat mvp and facing am 8th seed in the finals?
@DrakesFoodReviews
@DrakesFoodReviews 10 ай бұрын
@@TMALGoatedyeah just an 8th seed that made it to the NBA finals 🙄. Such a dumb argument. They earned the 1st seed too. Not like it was just handed to them.
@somregularguy
@somregularguy 10 ай бұрын
If you’re going to say that than you have to keep the same energy for Curry’s rings as well
@bigsoulja73
@bigsoulja73 10 ай бұрын
PER is a useless stat. There’s significantly better ways you can show Jokic’s dominance
@yisusoflare6225
@yisusoflare6225 10 ай бұрын
by averaging a 30 points tripe double in the playoffs and being unstoppable or the whole series@@TMALGoated
@nicholasalexander9866
@nicholasalexander9866 10 ай бұрын
Bro Rusty, I don’t think you read the dudes question right. 5:30 You literally agreed with him
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
Nicely spotted, I didn't even notice as I was just listening to Rusty rant a bit instead of using my eyes to read.
@platinumremixhd1790
@platinumremixhd1790 10 ай бұрын
so what?
@PostNuttClarity
@PostNuttClarity 10 ай бұрын
You need to add Jokic Jersey at your background. I'm sure you're also a Jokic fan. Your face lights up whenever you talk about Jokic.
@bigsoulja73
@bigsoulja73 10 ай бұрын
KD has averaged at least 25 points per game in 14 straight seasons now, while at no point having a below average TS%. He’s also shot 50% from the field for ten straight seasons. In the last ten seasons he’s averaged 28/7/5/1/1 on 52/39/89 shooting splits while also being an above average to great defender for that entire stretch. Jokic is an amazing talent, and can certainly at some point rank higher then KD. But as it stands, Jokic has been an elite player for 3 years, Durant has been for 13 years.
@Esteban-R2
@Esteban-R2 10 ай бұрын
True, the thing is tho that KD hasn't reached the level of greatness as for example someone like Kobe or Lebron in the sense that you can rank him higher in all-time lists just because he is THAT good of player. (Lebron and Kobe are prime examples that you can "forgive" their "lack" of accolades because of consistency, context, and Legacy. They are so great as basketball than you can't deny they deserve Top5). KD is getting there, he is almost there, but not being able to be a leader and having the BEST teammates anyone has ever had has tarnished his legacy a lot. Until he wins at least 2 rings more, or 1 but a very meaningful one, he will always be a below top 10 player.
@simple45679
@simple45679 10 ай бұрын
it only takes one more chip for jokic to really overtake KD. (hypothetical) one more chip meaning at least 1 more year of great basketball guaranteed and even if jokic somehow gets career-ending injury after, he'd still have 2 better rings while KD never really led his own team to the championship
@simple45679
@simple45679 10 ай бұрын
@@Esteban-R2 how do kobe and lebron have a lack of accolades tho, terrible example
@endah08
@endah08 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I don't think KD is like an amazing defender but I do think he's underrated. I was actually really impressed by a lot of his defensive play in this latest playoff run. He acted as a help rim protector quite effectively especially because Ayton was dropping the ball a lot.
@endah08
@endah08 10 ай бұрын
I think Jokic can be an okay defender in the right team. This year they had a huge team with a bunch of great defenders so Jokic just needed to pay his role and not have any major lapses, he is a smart enough player to do that well. KD is actually a decent defender in any situation, he's quick enough and long enough to do well with wings and guards on the perimeter and that length helps him with rim protection even if he's to slight to be a serious rim protector.
@1tchey976
@1tchey976 10 ай бұрын
As a verified jimmy Butler meat rider I can confirm Damian Lillard will be traded to the heat by the deadline
@machoboys8884
@machoboys8884 10 ай бұрын
Get back to work yeti
@ashtonwright7756
@ashtonwright7756 10 ай бұрын
🤨 we gettin verified nowadays…
@AstralScourge
@AstralScourge 10 ай бұрын
It's not happening with that trash offer kiddo
@user-nn6ow3xt5o
@user-nn6ow3xt5o 10 ай бұрын
Is that you Rachel?
@LetMeEatDem
@LetMeEatDem 10 ай бұрын
How you get verified
@KankoonShuffle
@KankoonShuffle 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, at this point its more of a Hot take to say, that Jokic won´t be higher all-time than Durant at the end of their careers
@seandawson5899
@seandawson5899 10 ай бұрын
We always talk about how the players deserve fair compensation and then the workers at concessions and security get absolutely shafted. I'm sick of the owners and players talking about money. Who speaks for all the nameless and faceless people who make playing nationally televised games in giant areas possible. It's disgusting at this point.
@user-nn6ow3xt5o
@user-nn6ow3xt5o 10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@selanryn5849
@selanryn5849 10 ай бұрын
Players are unionized. Are concession workers and security? UNIONS are who speak for workers.
@seandawson5899
@seandawson5899 10 ай бұрын
@@selanryn5849 the who is referring to the media. The owners make too much and now the players are creeping up there too. My favorite player, steph, makes 48 million dollars a year when the base pay is 18 dollars an hour for a concession stand worker, in the bay area, where the cost of living is astronomical
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
This is an important thing to mention. There are literally hundreds of millions of people working jobs that are meaningful and important, barely scraping by with what little they have. I think basketball players should get paid a lot, as their talent is unique and they provide entertainment and rolemodels for millions of fans around the world. Their efforts are also paying for all the jobs that are created by the NBA as a whole. People in stadiums, food services, cleaning, medical staff, analysts, radio and podcast hosts and even youtubers as a secondary beneficiary. Without them, this all wouldn't even be possible. Unlike some crook working an executive position at a bank, who embezzles billions of dollars with shady (barely legal) financial constructions, who is a blight on society and detracts value from our economy for his own benefit, an NBA player actually ADDS value to the world. They provide jobs and security to a whole host of people and for that reason alone I think they deserve to get paid. This is too political for a basketball channel for sure, but if you want to direct your anger at someone as a reason for the world being unjust and inequality being a huge problem, point your finger at the financial sector, at the corrupt government and at big industry and tech to keeping this system in place. At the very least the owner of an NBA team should pay his staff a reasonable living wage, that is not the job of the NBA star.
@Khanfuzed1
@Khanfuzed1 10 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t like comparing kd/jokic they’re both 1/1s and are undeniably incredible players. Agree jokic’s chip is more impressive but KD is unstoppable in his own too. He has bad games because he plays bad. It’s virtually never b/c of a defender or someone in opposition. That’s not normal
@patrick05Morgan
@patrick05Morgan 10 ай бұрын
Bro called Durant overrated because of what he said about LOW💀
@Salsainglesa
@Salsainglesa 10 ай бұрын
I agree with the Jokic > KD take. He took his team to the promised land being the first option with high usage rate while being amazingly effective. KD, well he hasn't
@kyletucker3811
@kyletucker3811 10 ай бұрын
I don't know why Rusty is playing dumb on why Portland is hanging on to Dame right now. It has nothing to do with wanting him to stay, they want fair compensation. And like the Nets they're not going to be forced into giving him up for cheap. It's that simple.
@Dasbulldoge
@Dasbulldoge 10 ай бұрын
They either give him up for a little less or they make themselves the least attractive franchise in the league to free agents. Not worth it to burn a player like that.
@kyletucker3811
@kyletucker3811 10 ай бұрын
@@Dasbulldoge I think this is slightly overstating it. They're waiting it out to get the best offer from Miami. They have no obligation to take a lesser deal just like players don't when negotiating contracts.
@YungLanxx
@YungLanxx 10 ай бұрын
@@kyletucker3811it’s not solely up to Miami…they want a 3rd team involved to get them more desirable pieces than Miami has but regardless Portland is not getting equal value for Lillard and there’s no one to blame but themselves for how bad they’ve been as a front office.
@mikefrost5575
@mikefrost5575 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with KD being overrated all time, and this is coming from someone who grew up watching the man. For all those who disagree, just think of it like this: when the other team would rather double and triple the 6'3" light skinned in Under Armours (shout out TSO Sage) over the 7 foot Slim Reaper, what does that say about who the best player on the team is? Sure, KD put up better numbers than Steph for sure, but KD wasnt getting triple teamed, was he?
@EzMoneyMir
@EzMoneyMir 10 ай бұрын
That’s actually cap KD has some of the most gravity ever is the best scorer ever and a great shot blocker
@dontbedummy8101
@dontbedummy8101 10 ай бұрын
@@EzMoneyMir Ty Lue disagreed
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr 10 ай бұрын
@@dontbedummy8101ty lue poor game plan isn’t proof. It just shows it was the wrong game plan lmaooo you guys that say this are so stupid 😂
@amplesstratleholm7609
@amplesstratleholm7609 10 ай бұрын
Perhaps it's because Steph is more "stoppable" with the personnel that Ty Lue (and most teams) had. They wouldn't slow down both Steph and KD while still paying some attention to Klay (who can win games singlehandedly if he gets hot), unless LeBron (the only player that has a chance) checks KD all the time, which will sabotage their offense.
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
So all u just said means kd is overrated u didn’t break shit down at all all u did was suck off steph curry instead of explaining how kd is overrated
@moisturizedkev
@moisturizedkev 10 ай бұрын
Good lord thank you for that first take!!! The argument shouldn’t be that players should make way less- we should ALL be making more!!! That’s why I rock with you Rusty, comrade vibes
@somregularguy
@somregularguy 10 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how people can count Curry’s 2 rings in 2017-2018 but not KD’s, KD’s are the more valuable ones because he at least won FMVP
@Esteban-R2
@Esteban-R2 10 ай бұрын
without Curry you wouldn't win, is the same as Kobe and Shaq. Yeah Shaq got the FMVPs because everything was build around him but without Kobe you wouldn't even get near the Finals and even won the Finals. It takes greatness to be so great at the game and also have that kind of humility to not be considered the best player in the team when you actually are
@Esteban-R2
@Esteban-R2 10 ай бұрын
think about like. Kobe and Curry are the LEADERS of the team and they delegated tasks, in basketball terms they got less the ball because there was someone with more "talent" or the offensive system made them more useful. Don't get me wrong I'm not bashing KD or ESPECIALLY Shaq but yeah the thing is they are the most effective player offensively but they weren't the best player or maybe the MOST IMPORTANT player in the team is a best term
@winter9242
@winter9242 10 ай бұрын
KD wasn't the most valuable one. Teams were more concerned with curry's shooting because of his off ball movement which freed durant so many times and getting easy points
@cwebed-stuy9951
@cwebed-stuy9951 10 ай бұрын
@@Esteban-R2 KD is clearly like Kobe. People said Kobe couldn’t win without Shaq just how people say KD can’t win without Curry.
@ebenezeronile
@ebenezeronile 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@cwebed-stuy9951No his not, unlike KD, Kobe proved he could be the First Option on a championship team and win. With him winning. 2x Peating as an matter of fact. Also if anything, Curry was the one who prove he can win without KD. KD needed Curry, Curry didn’t need him. He won before him and after him.
@Most__Toxic_
@Most__Toxic_ 10 ай бұрын
With that AD comment, where would Kawhi rank? He’s literally DOMINANT whenever he plays, he just doesn’t play often. Imo, he’s still a top 3 player when healthy
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
Top 15 player in the league and Top 3 player in the playoffs. (when healthy)
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 ай бұрын
Kawhi has to be ranked higher than AD just off that Raptors run. The Spurs championships are just icing on the cake
@princesslightning5447
@princesslightning5447 10 ай бұрын
@@taj3618stop
@Jeff_2x
@Jeff_2x 10 ай бұрын
Like I really don’t get why people act like KD was gonna stay because Draymond yelled at him 😂 like this was a Miami Heat Bron thing he was gonna be there 3 years either way 😂
@PvtShiznit
@PvtShiznit 10 ай бұрын
Hair on point my guy, keep up the content
@thetank5642
@thetank5642 10 ай бұрын
Rusty definitely changed the title right? I swear it was Dame will stay in Portland before I decided to watch now
@Miles_305
@Miles_305 10 ай бұрын
Hot take: The Heat franchise care much less than people think about Dame. They make ECF's with 60%+ undrafteds..Dame a luxury😂
@Virgil191
@Virgil191 10 ай бұрын
they lost all those major undrafted players, i don’t even know why people are so convinced he’s going to miami when they literally have no one to give portland
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
Dame was playing at an MVP level last season. Ofcourse he is going to add a ton for the Heat. They don't even have a lead scorer, Butler is only doing that because he always does whatever is needed to win. (and they do not have a high level scorer, so he often does that exactly)
@Miles_305
@Miles_305 10 ай бұрын
😆 Please doubt them...we already know how that ends...we seen it enough the last few year
@EzMoneyMir
@EzMoneyMir 10 ай бұрын
KD has become one of the most underrated players ever just because ppl don’t like him
@sheyarjames4904
@sheyarjames4904 10 ай бұрын
Underrated my ass, aside from the Bucks series he hasn't done anything impressive in the playoffs since 2019.
@etanabu2232
@etanabu2232 10 ай бұрын
hell nah
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr 10 ай бұрын
@@sheyarjames4904has kawhi ? What was jokic doing all those years before his mvp ? Kd came into the game and was a straight up killer . He’s definitely underrated because of his FREE AGENT career choice lmaoo
@sheyarjames4904
@sheyarjames4904 10 ай бұрын
@@curtiszyr Jokic always performed and did well in the playoffs when his team was healthy, same can't be said about KD his scoring and efficiency drops a good bit in the playoffs in the past years, his free agent choices made him overrated not underrated because he is making big threes left and right and center.
@iamlegend5373
@iamlegend5373 10 ай бұрын
@@curtiszyrKawhi has been injured
@sagesimply9742
@sagesimply9742 10 ай бұрын
Hey Rusty...If don't nobody else say it...I see the glow up
@matthieusaade3616
@matthieusaade3616 10 ай бұрын
Hot take that shouldn't be : Tony Parker is much higher all time than Damian Lillard.
@machoboys8884
@machoboys8884 10 ай бұрын
I mean Dame is a notably better player but going off accolades and rings I guess I can see it. You better have bill Russel as your goat though
@mikefrost5575
@mikefrost5575 10 ай бұрын
.... you know... you might actually be spittin.
@sadmarinersfan8935
@sadmarinersfan8935 10 ай бұрын
I think you can definitely say he played a better team game and winning mentality but scoring not even close tho
@savonsanders3955
@savonsanders3955 10 ай бұрын
​@@machoboys8884Tony Parker playoffs stats from 2002-2010 is low key goated ngl
@machoboys8884
@machoboys8884 10 ай бұрын
@@savonsanders3955 he is a HOFer for a reason m
@burrybondz225
@burrybondz225 10 ай бұрын
durant has never been the same since tearing his achilles and none of his fans can convince me otherwise.
@zacharywilliams3697
@zacharywilliams3697 9 ай бұрын
I could actually get behind this because of the full fact that jokic won with the team he was drafted on.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
Just wanted to mention a few things: The Suns extremely high scoring potential for their stars only *barely* managed to get them past the Clipppers in the playoffs last year, despite the LA team missing PG13 and only having Kawhi for 1 game. Sure, the Clips overperformed with their roleplayers and Russ was really good which a lot of people didn't expect, but needing ridiculous games from both KD and Book to even have a chance to do anything is just not a good starting point. I do think the Suns are going to be a good regular season team again, but if they do not add to their defensive depth and starting lineup, it's not going to matter much in the playoffs. Their best two defensive starters went to Brooklyn, their 3rd best defender went to Chicago. All of them were good from 3, which is also something which they lack. KD is awesome, but they overpaid at the cost of their defense and their depth.
@totalwine161
@totalwine161 10 ай бұрын
good points but chris paul was often bad in that series and they basically flipped him for bradley beal, who i think people underrate. also KD was injured for most of the season, they had like 8 games with him before the playoffs. scheme and preparation are also really important for the playoffs. now they have vogel, a defensively minded coach, and a full offseason to prepare. people dont really mention all that.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
@@totalwine161 The CP3 trade for Beal could work out well. I think it is an upgrade for their scoring potential, however they have a need for his playmaking. Now it has to be between a bit of Booker and Beal, with a dose of KD thrown in, none of which are awesome. Book is probably good enough, but the other 2 ... I don't think they are. Also, there still is too much midrange shooting and not much 3 point shooting on this team. This is what made it so hard for them in the playoffs. With KD, Booker, Beal and Ayton all being great in the midrange, but so far only Booker and KD are the only guys I trust as high volume 3 point shooters. On the bench, it doesn't get much better, they basically have Watanabe and Lee as the only real specialists. I don't mind Watanabe, he could even be a big part of the rotation, but Lee doesn't have the best reputation as a defender. We have to go and see how it works out. Quite possibly Vogel can impact the team defensively by a lot, but with playmaking and 3 point shooting being possibly down, they still might need some things to change before the trade deadline. Not having Cam, Mikal and even Torrey Craig anymore certainly hurt their 3 point shooting just as much as their defense, people tend to forget that too :)
@JordanGurney
@JordanGurney 10 ай бұрын
Young player - Jordan Poole, had tons of confidence and was wildly impactful on my Warriors' 22 championship. However, after securing "the bag", he regressed MIGHTILY, and thus, we needed to flip him for the best value (CP3 atm). I see that 2022 season for Poole as an outlier though. It's kind of the one exception that proves the rule. We got lucky he played so well in 22'. Look at MPJ for the Nuggets - struggled in the Finals cuz he's still a young guy - that's typical. Point is, I agree that teams are oftentimes overpaying young guys before they've proven themselves (ah la Poole).
@condog209
@condog209 10 ай бұрын
I mean KD 2 FMVP 1 MVP Jokic 2 MVP 1 FMVP Now let's also have Jokic leave Denver to join Curry and Klay and see him become a 4 time Champ
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
I see u use no context so do they win 4 in a row if jokic fucking tears Achilles like kd did u talking like kd them wouldn’t have won 4 in a row so your saying a bunch of nothing
@jbthestoner5504
@jbthestoner5504 10 ай бұрын
I don't care if you can argue KD is technically a better basketball player than Jokic, I'd take prime Jokic over prime KD on my team 10/10 times.
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
Depends on what’s around them
@ShniitSchneyder
@ShniitSchneyder 10 ай бұрын
I still have the same shirt!
@MikeTheNBAGuy
@MikeTheNBAGuy 10 ай бұрын
Nah it's definitely too soon to put Jokic > KD, because of longevity. Peak wise he's absolutely better but KD has like 10 more prime seasons, Jokic needs a few more years of prime play before we can put him over KD unless he has ANOTHER elite title run next year
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
Nah kd has been in prime since like 2010 the man is youngest scoring champ ever at like age 20-21 which is still fuxking crazy to believe
@bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 10 ай бұрын
Common Comrade Buckets W
@ecoblitz3655
@ecoblitz3655 10 ай бұрын
Lol bro really said ain’t nothing different in having an extra 30 million dollars
@jaketerpening3284
@jaketerpening3284 10 ай бұрын
Hold up a bit. Jokic put up legendary stats on his run but so did Durant. The only devaluing of the rings is lack of competition. In the Warriors case, it was because the rest of the team was so good, but in the Nuggets case, they played the 4 seed and play in teams. The Heat cleared out all the top teams from the east with a miracle run that left them exhausted for the finals while the Nuggets biggest struggle was against a Suns team that had no depth and was missing their 3rd best player. And had only played 8 regular season games together. Jokic's ring is getting crazy overrated right now. It may be worth more than 1 KD ring, but not 2. Let's pump the the breaks a bit. Jokic will probably end up higher than KD all time, but they were both to stop their careers right now, KD is higher.
@srdjanpajic2404
@srdjanpajic2404 10 ай бұрын
Difference is, Jokic/ Nuggets had no influence in who they are going up against, they could not choose their opponents, they can only beat who manages to advance to the next round, it's not their fault that the Celtics, Bucks, Sixers, Grizzlies and Kings failed to advance any further KD on the other hand CHOSE to join the Warriors, and like you said, the rest of the team was already so good, went to back to back finals before acquiring him, so their path to the finals/ chip was so much easier, and since then, he created two other top heavy teams, without anything to show for His two rings don't have the same value to me, I rate Giannis, Jokic and Kawhi higher than him all time
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
You can argue the Nuggets had an easy championship this run, but that only means they are so much better than the competition they faced. The Phoenix games weren't that extremely close, it took herculean games from Booker to even win 2 of them. They swept the Lakers, which was a play-in team, but certainly didn't play like one in the rounds before and having the finals against the Heat was certainly not a struggle for the Heat because they were 'tired'. They simply got outplayed as the Nuggets offense was too hard for them to stop. Out of all those teams, only the Heat was able to slow them down enough to make it a bit of a contest. For sure the Celtics wouldn't have been much better.
@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tq
@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tq 10 ай бұрын
Idk where the idea of the Nuggets having an easy run comes from They were Underdogs in half the series they played And Joker was the lone all star on his team outside of a washed up Deandre Jordan
@jaketerpening3284
@jaketerpening3284 10 ай бұрын
@@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tqThe only series they played a non play in team was against the 4th seeded Suns who had no depth and their 4rd best player getting injured.
@blazefactor6849
@blazefactor6849 9 ай бұрын
@@jaketerpening3284 And yet two of those teams had massive swings back towards the end of the season due to good signings, with the Lakers actually getting some depth behind AD and Lebron and the Suns getting Durant. Both of those teams improved massively, so calling them easy is doing a huge disservice to how good they actually were. Then you've got the Heat, who literally won the Western Conference over teams that were rated as likely to win a championship because they were shooting like 50% from three as a fucking team. You call this an easy run, but once you actually look at what happened... Nah. This was a legitimately difficult run, and the Nuggets made it look easy.
@ClareAmel
@ClareAmel 10 ай бұрын
AD kind of has to be a top 10 caliber player considering it is impossible to name any centers better than him besides Jokic and Embiid, which is crazy considering he would ideally be a power forward
@dontbedummy8101
@dontbedummy8101 10 ай бұрын
GIannis is also a big, so there are 3 better than AD
@zsomborszigeti6797
@zsomborszigeti6797 10 ай бұрын
​@@dontbedummy8101he said center not bigmen
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
If we count AD how he was in last year's playoffs and for the final short run of the season, he is definitely a top player. If you look at him at the start of the season though, he was a detriment to his team. He played like an oversized midrange and threepoint shooter, having horrible efficiency and he basically forgot he was one of the best centers in the league. AD playing like he's Kobe is definitely not a good player. Personally I like Brook Lopez better, as he is more consistant, a better 3 point threat and a much stronger, sizable center that you cannot move around easily. AD is much quicker though and his secondary reaction speed, coordination and hands are all incredible and unmatched in the league for his size.
@dontbedummy8101
@dontbedummy8101 10 ай бұрын
@@zsomborszigeti6797 There is really no definite centre position in modern basketball. Giannis can totally play C in today's basketball world.
@ClareAmel
@ClareAmel 10 ай бұрын
@@dontbedummy8101LeBron could totally play C in the modern NBA. So should I consider him when I’m ranking Centers? No, because he’s a small forward. Giannis is a 4. I think it’s a pedantic waste of time to insert him in this discussion that he does not belong in especially when the Bucks have a better player than Giannis to play the 5 on the defensive end.
@michaelmayers3622
@michaelmayers3622 10 ай бұрын
The gam always been about valuing players value for the future
@sneaksies8931
@sneaksies8931 10 ай бұрын
no way u used my take thanks rusty
@pashapasovski5860
@pashapasovski5860 10 ай бұрын
This is why Joker doesn't do socialmedia! Shit gets twisted and priority turned upside down! It is a rare privilege to observe a team first leader! I personally like KD,as a player he's one of the best and he looks cool as a person! Ge gave Jokic and Denver no excuse props!
@theripper631
@theripper631 10 ай бұрын
I dont think jokic over Durant is a hot take at all. jokic clears Durant
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
Jokic clears Durant u realize Durant been great 17 years right & jokic only 4
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr 10 ай бұрын
@@MeloRiley-gb5pzthey’re actually insane with thaws takes. What was jokic doing all those years before his MVPs years ? Kd came into the nba and was a straight killer.
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
@@curtiszyr the man has 2nd longest streak in history with 16 straight years of 25ppg only Lebron has a longer streak with 19 and with the way its looking kd streak not ending no time soon he is a 4x scoring champ youngest ever 6x all nba 1st mvp 2x champ 2x finals mvp 14x allstar 2x 50-40-90 1 of which was 55-40-90 I can literally keep going bro when it comes to longevity for this man to have torn his Achilles broke his foot mcl calf strain jones fracture all these lower body injuries in career and yet he is still killing today
@iamlegend5373
@iamlegend5373 10 ай бұрын
@@MeloRiley-gb5pznobody denied he was a great player, but Jokic will measure higher when it’s all said and done. Look back in like 5 years
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr 10 ай бұрын
@@MeloRiley-gb5pz plus they’re not taking into consideration the competition in the west at the time. Kd at a young age 22 23 going against Duncan Kobe dirk and in finals prime lebron d wade . Compare than to jokic competition. The media has normalized diminishing and hating on the man it’s insane
@woke49
@woke49 10 ай бұрын
The kevin durrant Disrespect is crazy
@urivan9613
@urivan9613 10 ай бұрын
The players are NOT responsible for the profitability of the NBA. The people responsible for its massive economic value are the businessesmen behind it. There's nothing inherently valuable about basketball as a sport. It's the people with big brains and audacity who managed to turn a regular sport into a global sensation. Let's not forget that.
@jahazielcipolla
@jahazielcipolla 10 ай бұрын
I’m not the biggest KD fan in the world but suggesting that Jokic’s defense today (which is like a net neutral) is far better than KD’s defense at his peak is ridiculous
@Jay-qs2ro
@Jay-qs2ro 10 ай бұрын
He’s just a Kd hater that’ll say anything to slander him
@spartakusvelickovic
@spartakusvelickovic 10 ай бұрын
You just don't watch Jokic playing, and have fallen victim to narratives, I'm not saying Jokic is an outstanding defender, but definitely above average, his hands and positioning and box outs are pretty elite
@GTNover
@GTNover 10 ай бұрын
Jokic is way better than net neutral (although I'd say KDs prime is absolutely better). But the 2 most important things on defense are rebounds and steals as they instantly end the offensive possession and give them to your team. Jokic is by far the best player in the league at combined steals and defensive rebounds. Add his defensive IQ which is better than anyone not named Draymond Green, and the fact he's a massive lengthy body in the right place at the right time, he's far better than net neutral. Every defensive metric backs this up as does the eye test, as does proof in the pudding with a championship and anchoring a top 5 defensive team in the playoffs. It's a false narrative.
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
Facts ‼️
@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen
@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen 10 ай бұрын
So you’re saying Jokic is comparable to Jordan and Kobe when it comes to scoring?
@DrawQuick2014
@DrawQuick2014 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen
@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen 10 ай бұрын
@@DrawQuick2014 no, he isn’t. If that isn’t recency bias idk what is. Jokic isn’t even a top 10 scorer all time and that’s fine. But KD undoubtedly is, so saying they’re close in scoring is just wrong. Calling KD overrated when he is 15-20 all time is ridiculous, that as fair of a ranking for him as you can get.
@---kr3zg
@---kr3zg 9 ай бұрын
I would say as a player im taking jokic, jokic can also shoot unstoppable jumpers just like KD has a higher IQ the passing isn't even in the same realm only reason KD is ranked higher all time and i agree with this for now is his longevity and the extra ring jokic has a extra mvp and KD has a extra FMVP i think jokic is going to end up with 3 rings and 3 finals mvp and at least another regular season mvp so in the future yes i definitely see jokic being ranked higher
@kylejohnson4615
@kylejohnson4615 10 ай бұрын
I am now mildly terrified to find where KD ranks on Rusty’s all time list if he thinks Jokic is already basically in a statistical tie. He’s 13 in my all time list, and Jokic is 22. I definitely believe there’s a not so unrealistic world where Jokic jumps past him (I think Jokic Giannis and Luka are the old active players outside top 10 all time rn who have a real case to crack it one day) but it feels like there is some distance based purely on accolades accrued over time by KD (all-nba, etc).
@Dasbulldoge
@Dasbulldoge 10 ай бұрын
KD’s accolades are ethereal, they lack any real substance because he has proven that he’s not good enough to put a team on his back and elevate them. Steph won before and after him, and his stints at OKC, Brooklyn, and Phoenix has shown that his great play is limited to individual performance and not true inherent greatness. He’s obviously an incredibly talented player, but his failure to find any real success whatsoever with any of his other teams paired with his constant team-hopping really knocks him down a lot of pegs for me.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
Now I'm curious how you rank Jokic 22nd all time and who you took over him. If you can find the time and think it is fun to do, can you post your list? It is going to be met with criticism for sure, but it might provide more insight at what you mean and how we value younger players that have a lot of future potential. For example, I think Luka has a case for being the Goat player over Lebron and MJ in the future. He is on a trajectory to do so at least. You could argue the same thing about Jokic, as he is also reasonably young and pulling off some historical statistical feats.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
@@Dasbulldoge There is some merit to judge a player on his own achievements over his team's performances. If you are a on a stacked team, you are going to win championships far easier than if you are a sole star with a bunch of medium roleplayers. Now carrying a bunch of roleplayers very far into the playoffs is an ever bigger personal accomplishment and we've seen that Jokic and Luka are for sure capable of doing that. Jokic this last season actually had a good team around him (at least the first 7 other players were excellent to good) and he got a championship right away.
@kylejohnson4615
@kylejohnson4615 10 ай бұрын
@@pinobluevogel6458here’s my top 35. I’m sure there are things people will critique but my list puts a lot of weight into career achievements (rings, major awards like MVP and DPOY) as well as a big emphasis on All-NBA and All-Defense selections. Stuff like impact, all star selections, and the flash/play style are valued less. Here it is: 1 - Jordan 2 - Bron 3 - Kareem 4 - Magic 5- Duncan 6- Kobe 7- Shaq 8- Bird 9- Steph 10- Bill Russell 11- Wilt 12- Hakeem 13- KD 14- Dr. J 15- KG 16- West 17- Giannis 18- Big O 19- Moses 20- Dirk 21- Admiral 22- Jokic 23- Kawhi 24- Karl 25- DWade 26- Chuck 27- CP3 28- Harden 29- Elgin 30- Isiah 31 - Nash 32- Kidd 33- AI 34- Mikan 35- Gervin
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
Preach ‼️‼️‼️
@richierich4330
@richierich4330 10 ай бұрын
I wanna see ppl get paid but its cutting out those vets/locker room guys which the nba needs more of
@GONZUdAce11
@GONZUdAce11 10 ай бұрын
At this point people are just hating on the suns, Rustys take 6 months ago was literally that the Suns were gonna be championship favourites with a full season and training camp of book and KD. Now they have a far better roster than just that, with a far better defensive coach, and suddenly the suns got worse? If it wasnt for CP3 injury on game 2 they would have taken the nuggets to 7 games.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 10 ай бұрын
The Suns were a championship team with Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson on it. They did improve offensively with KD, but their offense is totally out of whack, having so many midrange guys. I think not having CP3 is actually a blessing, even though he was actually taking his threes at good efficiency. A younger scoring talent like Beal is a good replacement, that adds a bit more flexibility, speed and 3 level scoring. I'm not sure the playmaking is going to hold up, but with a few guys that can all do a little bit, it's probably going to sort itself out. However, their defense is still a big questionmark and I don't think they have the assets to do much more than what they currently have. Basically they are counting on Wainright, Okogie and Booker himself to carry the defense, hopefuly Ayton and maybe TJ Warren are going to help with that. It's not nothing, but it isn't great either. They could have some shotblocking from Bol Bol, but I'm not counting on that yet. (though I can't argue the potential with him is great)
@winter9242
@winter9242 10 ай бұрын
Lmao cp3 wasn't performing great even before his injury and during the first round. He doesn't have the same lift in his mid range and his 3 ball got a lot worse which limits his passing
@timholland2129
@timholland2129 8 ай бұрын
They didn’t win with CP3 so why would having him have made them better?
@daddyfuse50
@daddyfuse50 10 ай бұрын
What people underrate is the NBA marketing, storytelling, and ability to spread the league. People think its just the player's that "bring the value" are completely wrong. Its equal at the very least. How much do people pay to go watch the best mens leagues team in their city? Absolutely no charge and still nobody comes to watch?
@thecolossusofclout5612
@thecolossusofclout5612 10 ай бұрын
I played against Ayton in 2k20 and he played better virtual basketball than he ever has as a basketball player he graded me out I was a stage demon
@BHPTV
@BHPTV 10 ай бұрын
8:12 Agreed
@AxtroArmyz
@AxtroArmyz 10 ай бұрын
Devin booker was better than Chris Paul in that 2020-2021 finals run.
@PaM07675
@PaM07675 10 ай бұрын
The longevity gap is HUGE between KD and Jokic. Joker has like 4-5 strong MVP caliber seasons, whereas KD has like 12 of them
@GTNover
@GTNover 10 ай бұрын
KD has only had 13 all star seasons, not 12 MVP caliber seasons. He's only had 6 1st team NBA (less than an MVP) and 2 MVPs in his 15 seasons. Jokic has had 3 1st team NBAs and 2 MVPs in 8 seasons. KDs longevity hurts because in the extra 7 years of his prime, he's only had 3 more all NBA first teams. I would expect Jokic to be 1st team all NBA at least 4 more times in the next 7 years.
@PaM07675
@PaM07675 10 ай бұрын
@@GTNover You dont have to be 1st Team All-NBA to be a “strong MVP caliber player”. We know most of those GS years that KD wasnt making 1st team All-NBA was simply because he was on the Warriors, same thing happened to Steph for a couple of those years. But that doesnt change the fact that he was still a top 2-3 player in the world for all those years. He has been a tier 1 superstar since like 2010/2011 easily.
@GTNover
@GTNover 10 ай бұрын
@PaM07675 We aren't debating who was a tier 1 player the longest, though. And that's what it seems you are doing. We are debating who is the better player. Jokic has done almost as much as KD with so much less. Half the time, not a single all star teammate, let alone people like Steph, Klay, Draymond, Harden, Kyrie, Westbrook. You are free to think its KD, but most the world thinks it's Jokic now.
@PaM07675
@PaM07675 10 ай бұрын
@@GTNover No no no, this is not about that. This is about who is greater all-time, and in that convo, longevity is def a huge part of the convo. So while I wouldnt disagree with you that who has the greater peak is arguable, that is clearly not the convo we are having. Its a part of the convo, but its not the whole thing. Longevity, AKA sustained greatness of play, is just as relevanr, and the gap in this convo between KD and Jokic is a canyon right now at this current monent. If their peaks and peak accomplishments are comparable, but longevity is a canyon-sized difference, then yeah KD is still greater alltime… for now. Jokic’s career isnt over tho and he still has plenty more time to build his legacy either through his longevity or more peak accomplishments
@GTNover
@GTNover 10 ай бұрын
@PaM07675 I didn't say this is about the best peak. I said it's about being the best basketball player. Which it is. "All-Time" is simply the time frame we are allowing players from. It's obvious and virtually undebatable that Jokic has a better 3 year peak than KD. It's less obvious Jokic is already the better player, but again, accomplishing nearly the same amount is so much less time with so much less help gives Jokic the edge. Very similar to why MJ is the better player than Lebron. But if you want to put a major emphasis on longevity, some people think it's Lebron. Most people don't, but that's why it's a subjective opinion.
@AbdullahSediqi23
@AbdullahSediqi23 9 ай бұрын
KD's two rings with the Warriors
@marcosmartinez8088
@marcosmartinez8088 10 ай бұрын
So, Jokic is already top 15 all time right now. Wow. Where do you rank Willis Reed btw?
@ebenezeronile
@ebenezeronile 10 ай бұрын
Jokic is not Top 15, if Jokic is top 15 then we’re tf Giannis rank than ? Recency Bias is crazy.
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 10 ай бұрын
I love KD as much as the next guy, but it doesn't sound (too) crazy to put Jokić above him all-time right now. Also, I'm glad that somebody addressed the BS narratives of the circumstances surrounding the Warriors' decision to sign KD. Winning and dominance was the reason they signed KD, not LeBron, especially when they defeated him and the Cavs the previous year (although the Cavs weren't fully healthy) and nearly repeated against them a month prior to signing KD.
@loganmattoon5284
@loganmattoon5284 10 ай бұрын
If anyone can fix phoenix's defense its Frank Vogel
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
They was a top 6 defense last year and top 4 in playoffs too
@probablyyourdad
@probablyyourdad 10 ай бұрын
Lakers having more talent than the nuggets is an insane take 😂
@ilai7893
@ilai7893 10 ай бұрын
KD has never been the central fulcrum on the championship winning runs, when Joker's already been the guy who was the engine driving the bus in multiple facets (scoring, playmaking, rebounding).
@ivanastevanovic7215
@ivanastevanovic7215 10 ай бұрын
Jokić is the Best right now
@LonelyHoops
@LonelyHoops 10 ай бұрын
This may be splitting hair but jokic’s defence this season wasn’t on the same level as KD’s in GSW. KD was a good defender in GSW while jokic this season albeit being no where near the liability people were saying he was was still above average. KD as a defender was very mobile on the perimeter and offered good value as a helpside shot blocker, he did struggle guard in the post and recognize breakdown defensively but I think that negligible when talking about the gap i believe there is in shot blocking and perimeter ability. I do think Jokic is a much better offensive hub then KD however which I think is the better route to go down when talking about each of their respective peaks.
@thetrib1
@thetrib1 10 ай бұрын
He will be. Not there yet, but he will be
@mkysoul
@mkysoul 10 ай бұрын
Dame going to the Knicks
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 10 ай бұрын
Dude the difference is 30 million, that’s a freaking lot of money. That’s literally like 100 extra houses.
@kaneearley1234
@kaneearley1234 9 ай бұрын
think kat will come back strong this season
@cwhitney1972
@cwhitney1972 10 ай бұрын
Who's the first guy talking about? Ant? Lamelo? Haliburton? Zion? Ja? Dudes have been getting max deals coming off their rookie contracts since the rookie scale was first created. You only have to look at the picture of the guy to the right of Rusty to see an example of that. And before there was a rookie scale imposed, rookies got their insane money before they showed *anything*. So what's the big change this guy's talking about?
@BRDRDRDAT
@BRDRDRDAT 9 ай бұрын
The Heat dont have a trade for Dame. Dame doesnt want to go elsewhere. It was a clout play, he's staying in Portland and 3 peating
@TheMarkTEP25
@TheMarkTEP25 10 ай бұрын
Here’s my deal. This whole thing with Damian Lillard is going to end up biting him in the ass. Because if Miami ends up giving up depth to Portland (and they’ve already lost depth with players leaving in free agency) it’s gonna be a similar situation to the Suns. Star power with no depth. Unless they are able to get another team involved, it’s not going to be the situation Dame is hoping for. This is a huge reason why I’m not a fan of these players taking such big ass contracts because it gives a team no space to sign decent players and build and you’re going to have to give up more in a trade just to get those types of players.
@SirBackPack
@SirBackPack 10 ай бұрын
It’s weird people don’t like counting KD rings but love counting Steph’s rings
@somregularguy
@somregularguy 10 ай бұрын
Exactly what I’m saying, Curry’s count FAR less considering he went to visit him to recruit him in Long Island and not only that he deferred to KD and KD won the FMVP both times they won
@sakketin
@sakketin 10 ай бұрын
Yep I still have Isaiah as the goat pg. People overvalue Steph and they also really hate Isaiah because of his beef with MJ so they don't look at things objectively.
@ebenezeronile
@ebenezeronile 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@sakketinHave you forgot Magic somehow, objectively speaking.
@susanlee594
@susanlee594 10 ай бұрын
Steph won without KD, KD has never won without Steph.
@SirBackPack
@SirBackPack 10 ай бұрын
@@susanlee594 KD has 2 finals mvps while Steph was on the same team. Proving he is better. The logic still stands though. If those rings don’t count then they don’t count for anybody
@jaceygaither2581
@jaceygaither2581 10 ай бұрын
Jokic right now is better than prime KD. KD still has the better career though.
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
Ion know bro prime kd was crazy to watch 7”0 demon wit speed and pulling up 24/7 in people face 😂
@kazuiyah
@kazuiyah 10 ай бұрын
@@MeloRiley-gb5pzkd never lead a team to a chip jokic def peaked higher
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
@@kazuiyah bra do u know what it takes to win a chip right? Not just a roster games not won on paper and kd a 2x finals mvp buddy stop the bs jokic doesn’t have close to 20 years of longevity on his resume kd does so until jokic puts in atleast 15+ years of greatness he’s not on kd level point blank period your logic makes 0 sense and tell me the competition jokic beat to get that ring u realize kd in his younger days in okc had to face waaaaay better competition in west than jokic had to not a old Lebron and a old kd and a play in heat team kd had to face way better competition and when he got to finals in 2012 that heat is on a waaaay different level than the heat team jokic beat so stop the bs u niggas don’t know basketball at all jokic hasn’t even been great 5 years yet
@kimjonghyun3471
@kimjonghyun3471 3 ай бұрын
KD is on his last month of being better than Jokic all time. Jokic winning mvp makes him above KD and ring and fmvp with it is gonna make for some tough top 10 convos
@wariokanasta1772
@wariokanasta1772 10 ай бұрын
HOT TAKE: Russel Westbrook
@curtiszyr
@curtiszyr 10 ай бұрын
Gsw fans doesn’t love the suns , shocking
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 10 ай бұрын
Rusty Buckets said nonsense about KD vs. Jokic. That was a Media take, not a Basketball take.
@jamiegaskins3687
@jamiegaskins3687 10 ай бұрын
KAT doesn’t have the aggression to be anything more than the 3rd guy on a championship team.
@davidwilliams316
@davidwilliams316 10 ай бұрын
Did anyone know jokic in 2018?
@sakamoto8354
@sakamoto8354 10 ай бұрын
Beside from the Nuggets fans for obvious reasons, yeah they were a few like BBallBreakdown who made a video about him in 2017 and it aged very well.
@Julians1996
@Julians1996 10 ай бұрын
Ewewewewwe put that sauce put that sauce eweweweewe
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 10 ай бұрын
A dude that won back to back final MVPs was the one that got carried. I get it, half of y'all never bounced a basketball before but you should know better than this. i find out every youtubers to get views and likes needs to talk shit about kd 24/7 y'all kd haters are hilarious! probably can't go to bed without crying yourselves to sleep. 😂😂😂
@Penerzz
@Penerzz 10 ай бұрын
Rusty your KD takes are uneducated and you let your feelings get in the way when you speak about him, he is not overrated now nor has he ever been overrated. You also kind of exposed yourself when talking about the defence between him and jokic. Peak KD’s defence was seriously good, the last couple of years he has lost a step but he is still a plus defender, whereas jokic has always either been a negative defender or neutral. Honestly hearing you talk about KD is painful, if it’s in depth fair enough but you just get in your feelings about him and spout a bunch of nonsense
@omy2115
@omy2115 10 ай бұрын
Bro i totally agree with your kd take. If you take away those 2 rings then kd is exactly like carmelo anthony, great scorer but not much else. No one will put carmelo in a top 10 all time
@joel8692
@joel8692 10 ай бұрын
How about kds MVP amd much better stats
@baseupp12
@baseupp12 10 ай бұрын
KD has an MVP, 4 scoring titles made the finals as the clear best player while Melo only has one scoring title, no MVPs and no finals appearances. KD is in a different league even without rings
@CJfromMEXICO
@CJfromMEXICO 10 ай бұрын
Durant is just so iconic to me
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
Facts ‼️
@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tq
@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tq 10 ай бұрын
I agree 💯 almost as iconic as Joker
@teannatrump2622
@teannatrump2622 10 ай бұрын
Hot take: we all thought the 76ers we’re going to be the real championship contenders over the Boston Celtics and the Boston Celtics have absolutely proved everyone wrong i’m a diehard Raptors fan and Warriors fan.
@majesty1842
@majesty1842 10 ай бұрын
Which team would not like to sigh Prime KD? U really expect anyteam to say: u know with KD we gonna be too good and overpower, let's send kim to Wizards or Detroit. He'll make them to fun to watch. Warriors got a cap space, KD wanted a chip no matter how or where, so it was up to KD, not the warriors organization will to build a superteam
@rainofkhandaq6678
@rainofkhandaq6678 10 ай бұрын
It's not a hot take. If Jokic remains consistent ppl will put him over Jokic.
@pear-head
@pear-head 10 ай бұрын
Suns only going 7 deep rn isn't a big deal, assuming u can get like one more guy who is average. Nuggets just had an 8 man lineup win it all. With that said, I'd still take Nuggets over Suns rn without seeing the KD-Book-Beal combo in action. I don't think it'll work, but I'm open to it.
@shafiksunderani4230
@shafiksunderani4230 10 ай бұрын
Why the contracts in the first place opposed to regular salary jobs? They could have: X amount of sick days Poor performance leads to extra support and warnings X amount of vacation Assaults get prosecuted in criminal court (draymond green) and perhaps automatic dismissal Talking "trash" at work to other players or to the customer (fans), media goes right to HR for workshops in sensitivity, inclusivity .. lol..etc.. and also gets classified as workplace harrassment Players looking annoyed during post game interviews get reprimanded for poor customer service. Journalists/ media are representatives of the customer (fans), i want service with a smile and enthusiasm even if questions are like "how come you didn"t play well today?" Untoward behaviour can lead to dismissal during work hours or in work related roles off the court The flip side of off court is let people do as they want in their free time (ja morant) no spotlight or investigation or consequences for twitter if it doesn't impact productivity on the court and isn't illegal or like let Harden look or eat what he wishes unless after a year his average level of production doesn't exceed the minimum nba requirement threshold Or keep everything as is and have 1 year contracts all-around so no one is stuck with a player that doesn't play well
@nikolayjerev9285
@nikolayjerev9285 10 ай бұрын
Tbh is not the players it is the money, the American companies, and your policy that drive the NBA.
@HappyTofu2424
@HappyTofu2424 10 ай бұрын
Joker is not higher right now than KD but when both careers are over he probably will be. Joker already has more MVP's than KD and winning one more chip and FMVP will basically seal the deal imo. KD is a scoring machine but he still hasn't shown he can lead a team to the chip when he's the leader and culture builder. Joker does basically everything better than KD except maybe defend. Anyone who says Joker is worse at scoring has not watched him score. He has a good post game, a reliable mid range shot and can shoot the 3 and hit FT's very well (especially for a center).
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
He can’t hold a candle to prime kd when it comes to scoring its a reason kd is said to be greatest scorer ever 4 scoring titles youngest scoring champ ever at age 21 2nd longest streak in nba history 15 years in a row of 25ppg streak continue 2x 50-40-90 1 of which is a 55-40-90 and he is damn near 50-40-90 for career kd top 4 scoring average ever I like jokic but when it comes to scoring it’s no debate bra
@HappyTofu2424
@HappyTofu2424 10 ай бұрын
@@MeloRiley-gb5pz Joker only 2 points behind KD in career playoff scoring on better efficiency. Unfortunately Joker doesn't care about the regular season enough to score significantly and took like 5 years to become a full time starter so his regular season numbers are very skewed. KD's got the accolades but if Joker actually wanted to score he would probably average more than KD on pretty similar efficiency (not 50/40/90 unfortunately). We saw him this playoffs torch Rudy Gobert, AD, and Bam, 3 of the best defenders in the league. Joker spends half his time passing the ball or setting screens to open guys up. After watching him this playoffs, I think it's safe to say that if he really wanted to he could probably average 30-35 pts in the regular season.
@MeloRiley-gb5pz
@MeloRiley-gb5pz 10 ай бұрын
@@HappyTofu2424 fool u talking like kd couldn’t average 35-40 a game if he wanted to fool so stop the bs talking about “if” jokic wanted too fool kd can do the same thing kd is unselfish let me tell u how great of a scorer kd is fool he has a top 4 scoring average ever and he is not even ranked in the top 20 in shots per game in nba history now since we doing ifs and shit imagine if kd was ranked top 3 in shots per game all time he would fucking break score board he has sacrificed shots and like I said we don’t do ifs cause if we gone do that it’s not gonna a debate kd is the goat scorer him and mj it’s a reason people say that the guy has 2nd most scoring titles in modern history and most of those scoring titles guess he didn’t even take most shots on team or it was a tie with Westbrook
@wyattfriend7360
@wyattfriend7360 10 ай бұрын
Im just gonna say what everyone is too scared to say. Jokic looked like a top 5 all-time player last season. And better than KD.
@brandonhawkins2367
@brandonhawkins2367 9 ай бұрын
Y’all forgetting who kd is
@michaelmayers3622
@michaelmayers3622 10 ай бұрын
Miami trading for dame not a smart decision
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 ай бұрын
I thinks it’s easy for people to say Jokic was a better than KD all time but I could see it going either way. Sure Jokic lead his team to a championship but Durant almost did the same thing while going thru tougher teams. The only difference was he ran in the big 3 Heat who would’ve also beat the Nuggets. Jokic has 1 more mvp but KD has been really injury prone so it’s unlikely he’d win another
@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tq
@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tq 10 ай бұрын
There’s a certain irony in this cause people were having the suns and lakers beat the nuggets in a gentleman’s sweep lol
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 ай бұрын
@@MichaelPalmieri-pk6tq idk why people thought the Suns would beat them. They had no depth and CP3 was hurt/old as hell. I thought the Lakers would have a chance but I was way off with them getting swept
@ebenezeronile
@ebenezeronile 10 ай бұрын
“Recency Bias”
@akivacoleman223
@akivacoleman223 10 ай бұрын
KD was a better defender than Jokic as a smallball 5. Definitively
@uberneanderthal
@uberneanderthal 10 ай бұрын
lol no
@michaelmayers3622
@michaelmayers3622 10 ай бұрын
I ain't agianst players getting their money if it's there take it
@LUNALIGHTYEAR
@LUNALIGHTYEAR 10 ай бұрын
4:06 The warriors may have beat the cavs in 2015 BUT they took 6 games to beat the cavs who were battered by injuries. They didnt just simply beat lebron. im not saying they signed KD just to beat bron though.
@jamiegaskins3687
@jamiegaskins3687 10 ай бұрын
- Young talent is beyond overrated these days. It’s rare that not trading the young guy for an established star actually pays off later. Boston and Miami could both have dynasties right now if they didn’t overrate the absolute shit out of Brown and Herro. They’ve passed up on at least 10 trades combined that would have made each team better than it is now.
@yanni1244
@yanni1244 10 ай бұрын
🇨🇦
@reimixo
@reimixo 10 ай бұрын
wtf would not get kd if givin the opportunity?.......
@susanlee594
@susanlee594 10 ай бұрын
AD is definitely very injury prone and for that reason I have him out of my top 10, definitely still a top 15 player though.
@OneDrewThree
@OneDrewThree 10 ай бұрын
Hot take,Ben wallace was a better defender than Dennis rodman 🤷🏾
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