I listened to the instigator of this event when he testified. He called a stranger a pedo, ramped up the accusations, involved another group of strangers, and then retreated to stand back and revel in the chaos he had created. He then filmed himself pretending to be shocked instead of trying to offer assistance. That is who should be on trial. Classic sociopath yelling fire in a theater.

If you don't discipline your children, someone else will.

I saw all the videos of these young people on the witness stand and every time I thought that hopefully no such people will ever move into my neighbourhood. Their initial stories were all proven wrong by the video and they tried to evade telling the truth as best they could. The video with sound shows clearly how they enjoyed tormenting the man for sadistic pleasure, as drunk and drugged cowards do.

Why were these kids not arrested for gang assault?

Why wasn't the person who attempted to pull his bathing suit down charged with sexual assault? How is it possible that none of these teenagers got charged?

Even when i was a teenager i hated other teenagers

Never seen an incident that has so many people on the wrong side of truth

They didn't harass him. They ATTACKED HIM. One of them had his hand around Miu's neck, when the knife came out.

A lot of young people these days seem to think they can just disrespect people with no consequences.

This man felt threatened. I am 56 years old, and being surrounded by 13 people would scare me so badly! Especially if they were younger than me and drunk, taunting.

These punk young adults harassed him? This man was attacked by a pack of jackals. It's a disgrace that he is charged with first degree murder. He never went out that day with the intention of killing somebody. This is self-defense. How did he not know that they were not going to drown him?

Ultimately, he was found guilty of all 6 charges. It was a big win for bullies and harassers.

Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups

When social media skills meet real life.

I find it interesting to pretend drunk teens would never commit violence

Many young adults disregard social etiquette and cry for help when they encounter consequences. Note how gentle they became when the cops showed up in true weasel fashion.

Moral of the story: Don't be a bully

Those kids taunting-laughing really gives it away. They were never afraid of him.

These brats everyone of them should be in prison! This man was surrounded by 13 of these evil kids.. it was self defense

Note to self... Avoid approaching all humans at all times.

I completely agree. And on a side note: How come the state saw no need whatsoever to charge the group for the illegal consumption of alcohol and other drugs, as well as for harassing, bullying, terrorizing and finally physically assaulting Mr. Miu?

Everyone wants to remain a child when being faced with the repercussions of their evil actions.

Pack of wolves is the perfect description for these people. Now Mr. Miu is looking at the rest of his life in jail for being attacked by these trash bags. So sad.

He was surrounded, and assaulted. In one angle it appeared that someone had put pressure on the top of his head, preventing him from lifting his head above the water. This was Self Defense.

this case makes me very sad for some reason this situation is so much darker than other horrific cases, and I don't know why it troubles me more compared to other cases

This video should be shown in every classroom. It clearly demonstrates the effects of bullying and how a lack of awareness and empathy can escalate a situation. Thank you for the insightful and educational video, Dr. Grande❤

I agree with your analysis dr. Grande. Drunken teens looking for a fight; crowd bullying, they got what they were looking for

They were taunting, harrasing him and even resorted to being physical with him, and he couldn't simply escape. He got overwhelmed by the harrasment which turned physical and acted in self defence. That jury was very stupid.

I agree with you. However, after watching again, I see it is really a totally mishandled situation. He should have left, realizing he had a knife, and that the knife would be his only defense he would use, he must avoid these situations. A phone is not worth the trouble he appears to instigate. Kids need to know that it is not ok to fuck with people, I feel he situation could be over, and everyone involved still be alive if better judgment had been applied. Sad but he is not guilty of murder. Being pushed into a couple feet of rapidly moving water is deadly force, and he can respond with deadly force. The court got this one wrong.

These weren't kids. They were adults who chose to act like entitled little brats. He shouldn't be charged with anything. Those "adults" would be publicly shamed for such behavior. I'm tired of bad people doing whatever they want

My personal experience as a cave diver who frequently visited various backwoods watery places, getting through the locals was sometimes part of the thrill and danger of the dive experience. Not only were you worried about vandalism of your vehicle you even had to worry that they would steal your equipment, left in shallower water & necessary for proper decompression from these dives. The sites were generally filthy with strewn trash, beer bottles and diapers. Some sites were located on abandoned property or state forest land so there was no one to assist in case things went south. Some areas had no cell service either. Non of those teenage fools would have been acting that way had they not had their mob with them.

This whole thing is disgusting, the young adults should be charged.

Those teens should be on trial not they guy who had to defend himself against the thugs.

"I guess they were using the little known "push people into the water" method of assistance!" -what a perfect example of Dr. Grande's dry, subtle humor! 🤣 I could listen to him for hours, and I do!

I was never a punk at that age… I was taught by my parents, “you never know who you are messing with, so let people be”… I always lived by this philosophy… hadn’t had any major issues… these kids were never taught that and had to pay for it… my sympathy only goes so far with punks… and this BS argument of “their brains aren’t fully developed yet” is BS… they are developed enough to know what’s right and wrong. They wanted to act tough and paid for it.

Unbelievable that he was the victim and ended up in jail for defending himself. Unbelievable

Dr Grande, I m so pleased that a professional like you has got yhis 100%correct. I felt that youconfimed everything i was thinking like most people.

Their behavior is sooo triggering to anyone who has been through highschool bullying. That laughter and circling around makes me absolutely sick.

I’ve been a court reporter for 30 years and I am 100% in agreement with your assessment.

The defense should have called someone like you to the stand. This clown court just railroaded a sickly man with no criminal record just because they could. It sickens me.

Dr. grande, always the voice of reason. Can’t we just throw out the court system and give Dr. grande the helm I mean really?

This case reminds me of something that happened to me which could easily have gone South. I had walked down this trail to go to a swimming hole I had been too many times before. It wasn’t warm enough yet to swim but I liked going there just to chill and listen to music. It was midweek during the workday so there wasn’t really anyone else around. As I made my way down the trail I noticed a backpack along with some fishing gear leaning against a tree right next to the trail. When I looked down the thickly wooded hill to my left I could see some guy wading in the creek fishing. I figured the stuff was his and just kept heading down the trail without thinking much more about it. I eventually got to my destination, threw on my headphones and just chilled out as planned. About ten minutes later I saw some guy walk out of the woodline with a fishing pole. I immediately recognized him as the fisherman and figured he was looking to drop a line in the swimming hole as its a pretty good spot. So I just gave him a small wave of acknowledgment and nodded my head. But he continued to walk towards me and I could tell he was saying something? So I took out my ear buds. He was young guy about 25 with long curly hair and a muscular build. Looked like he definitely worked out. Thats when he spoke to me. He asked “Hey man. Did you happen to see a backpack and some fishing gear? I left it up in the woods and cant find it. Ive got all my stuff in there. My wallet and everything.” Immediately I didn’t like the energy that was coming off of him. His question was more accusatory than anything else. So I said yeah I saw it. I described exactly what I saw, that I saw him fishing, and that it was leaning against a tree right next to the trail. He kinda looked at me for a second and said “Cool. Thanks.” Then he walked off towards the trail. He came back about five minutes later only this time he’s much more animated. He says he couldn’t find it. So im thinking how could he not find it?? I mean its right there! Only a blind man could miss it! Now I could tell he’s convinced himself that I stole it. He starts giving me the third degree. Do you live around here? What’s your name? All that stuff. So now im getting pissed. Im out here just trying to enjoy my day. This trail and swimming hole is practically my backyard and I got this stupid absent minded guy basically accusing me if stealing his stuff. Keep in mind its just us in the middle of the woods and flip phones had only recently become a thing. I dont even think there were cell towers up in this area. So I had a choice. I could tell this guy to F off and risk getting into a fight or something worse. And judging by his physique I wouldn’t have had much of a chance without any weapon. Scenario two. He walks away cursing me and eventually calls the cops. Or scenario three which would cause me to swallow my pride and check my ego a bit and walk this dumb SOB to where his gear is. Ruining my otherwise chill day. I chose option three. So I asked him how far down the trail he went to search? And it was obvious he didn’t go far enough. I told him to follow me and I’ll show him exactly where his stuff is. Sure enough after a very long, tense and silent walk there was his stuff exactly where I said. Leaning on that tree right next to the trail. He says, “Oh. Thanks.” No apology or anything. Thats when I told him in the future he should pay closer attention to where he leaves his stuff and not be so quick to judge and accuse people. Immediately he got defensive. “I didnt accuse you!! I didn’t accuse anyone! Where the Hell did you get that from!?” I said, “You know what forget it. Im outta here.” And I split. That whole situation could have easily gone South like with these kids. And its often all about ego. Everyone seems so quick to fight these days. Rational thought is just gone.

Imagine instigating conflict & assaulting a gentleman simply looking for a phone.. then being surprised when he defends himself.. 😂🤦🏼‍♂️

Mr Miu needs a retrial with a sane jury. Unbelievable. Good video man

Brilliant analysis as always !

The man was scared. I would have been too. I had a situation a couple months ago in a Veterans club that I am a member of. I had a difference of opinion with a guy over politics. I was surrounded by three men trying to get into the conversation and I'm a 63 year old woman. Next thing I knew a total of five men started yelling at me , surrounding me and calling me a bunch of very inappropriate names. No one came to my defense. I started to leave and three of the men followed me to the door. I ran to my car. I was shaking and crying all the way home. I haven't went back since then. Too scared to. So I completely understand this guys mindset. Our world has become very scary and angry.

A knife is not a long-distance weapon. They were in his face.

The jury made a bad decision and the appeal should be a breeze

I have a feeling that these teens will be a little more polite to older strangers in the future

I'm certainly not going to say that he is innocent or blameless, but people need to learn that their actions can have consequences and to leave other people alone rather than taunting them when in a large group for "safety".

It is deeply regrettable that someone died because of this asinine situation. They're all responsible because of their behavior.

😢😢😢 Those teenagers were bullying that man; calling him those things 😡 they were getting others involved in the bullying by screaming for help which turned into a mob of people who were attacking this man when all he was doing was looking for a phone...😥😥😥😢🤬 the bullying backfired and one of their friends lost their life and an innocent man basically lost his life 🧬 to life in prison and all he was doing is looking for a phone!! A day at the damn river turned into a f****** lifetime and his wife is now screwed😢😢 I sure hope this man can get a good lawyer and get off on the pill because he definitely don't deserve to be in prison that was self-defense in every sense of the word

This is ridiculous it's cold group rioting Don't ever surround yourself with this type of people It will only lead to a disaster He goes to prison for defending himself that doesn't make any sense This is a broken justice system

My dad told me once, "If you go looking for trouble, you're going to find trouble you weren't looking for." Sounds like they were looking for trouble and found trouble they weren't looking for.

These guys didn’t just “harass” him - they instigated the entire thing, while drunk, to record it (“for the culture”), wouldn’t let him leave, attacked him, pushed him down to the water, tried to hold him in the water, and put their hands around his neck. Then they proceeded to lie in court, while the video proved they were lying. How is this happening?!

What? Theyre literally assaulting him and he gets Jailed for murder?

They're drunken loudmouth liers and should be in jail.

I think being in the water is a huge factor. It’s so easy to get sucker punched when there is a big group like that. If you get knocked out, no guarantee anyone is going to pull you out of the water.

I would have been scared when they pushed me down in the water and converged on me. People do kill others.

If society wanted to protect people from rabid, ill-raised teenager then teachers wouldn't be daily hurt by them. They are another privileged group

I can always rely on Dr Grande to give an honest overview of any given situation and include all context available.

Not to mention the fear of constantly being pushed in the water he could have had a huge fear of drowning.

Honestly if I was surrounded by a group of aggressive, angry, drunk young adults engaging in mob behavior, I’d be terrified. But for it to happen while we’re all standing in a body of WATER..AND SOMEONE STARTS SHOVING? Now it’s absolutely a life or death situation.

This is so disgusting. This man does not deserve prison.

for people who's defending these fatherless kids, I hope you don't get into a situation one day where you're surrounded by mobs and be forced to defend yourself or your family.

He wasn't only harassed, but also physically assaulted by the teens. Title should be updated.

The entire group was taunting, belittling, and bullying him. That part was all the way messed up! I could see the kids treating their fellow class mates this way.

10:27 "I guess they were using the little known push people into the water method of assistance!" Haha

Those young adults are lieing DOC ,..........PROSECUTER CANT TAKE. " YA I BELIEVE SO" the punch in the face LIE OR SLAP BS

They were not kids!! They were poorly behaved adults. And bullies.

Charging Nicolae Miu with first-degree intentional homicide is absurd. The state and prosecutor have gone way overboard with this charge and hopefully will come to regret it.

I thought you put it most succinctly with: "He didn't leave the house that day with the intention of killing someone." I agree. A jury didn't, apparently.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for expressing so eloquently what I believe. I watched every second of the court proceedings. I’m heart broken for Mr. Miu. This was a grave injustice that needs to be fixed. I found it difficult to feel empathy for the bullies. Watching a human beaten and persecuted by an out of control mob is triggering and painful. My empathy is 100% in Mr. Miu’s favour. May justice prevail.

Humans who are raised staring at personal screens, with parents who don't parent, and who spent little time in the real world while growing up may end up acting this way. I fear for the future if these kinds of people procreate.

To be attacked while in water your going to defend your life.

This is example of how people follow the cult. They don't watch the trial , but only a few clips. He was 💯 guilty.

As long as we use the word "bullying" nothing will change... Its assault/ abuse. Same for "pranksters" that really are criminals.

I've watched every minute of this trial & thank God there is so much video evidence.

I was tubing in another river nearby at the same time. One of our group said they had a bad feeling. We were like, oh, it's fine. It was nuts to hear this was happening not terribly far from us.

Terrible analysis. The individuals that were stabbed even admitted that Nic was assaulted before anyone was stabbed.

So glad you named the mob sadism Dr Grande.

Lack of empathy. That's a massive problem among the younger generations. The additive nature of having cell phones and young people using them for hours and hours a day have been proven to have lowered the ability of young people to feel and experience empathy - up to 30% and even more.

Very good analysis Dr. Grande

I wish someone could send your video to the judge in this case. They also made the questionnaire to the jury so complicated that the answers implicates that he was found guilty! The video says a thousand words! That girl lied,the video shows him holding up his arms to defend himself,no proof he hit her!

The worst part of this story are the prosecutors who clearly identify with the bully group, and not with Nic. This is becoming a HUGE problem in our Legal system. Can you address this sometime Dr. G?

I absolutely think these entitled teenagers got themselves into this mess. Its terrible that one young man died and others were injured. The man was absolutely pushed to defend himself! I've been in the middle of a group of mean taunting teenagers and I was terrified. Just because he lied doesn't change the facts! Id be afraid that if I told my side they would still prosecute me too. I feel for the family of the young man who was killed. But I don't have any empathy for the rest of that group!

I don’t think he should have been found guilty. He was ganged up on by a gang of arrogant, evil teenagers. I’m shocked the jury found him guilty & the little bastards who provoked him are getting away with it.

I hadn't heard about this case until now and this is the first video of yours I am watching. I really like the analysis and how well put together your thoughts were.

Water can be used to murder someone and they knocked him down into it twice. They EASILY could have held him under.

There is no way that the jury is going to convict him of first degree murder. The prosecuting attorney really blew it when he charged him with that. At the most, he should have brought a manslaughter charge.

Unreal he got charged let alone convicted… stay away from crowds and cops

If it happened in Florida, he probably would've won the case, AND the teens would've been charged for their friend's death.

I recently attended a high school track meet. I think people don’t realize that 17 year old boys are strong men.

I have yet to see a prosecution witness who elicits any sympathy in this trial. In general, a bunch of drunken underage kids picked the wrong guy to mess with.

Well done doc,well thought out and spoken,the problem was the jury couldn't separate the thought of poor kids and sadistic mob

This guy stabbed people, one to death. What was he doing with a knife? How can any rational person defend him?

It comes down to this, “ as you can see the more you fuck around the more you’re gonna find out.”

This is a classic case of "FuQ around & find out."

He is 54 so he will die behind bars. Unless there is the unlikely chance of a retrial or successful appeal. And what message does this send out? A mob can surround a man, yell false accusations in his face, physically threaten him, taunt him. He lashes out in a panic and unfortunately there is a fatality and injuries. Instead of recognizing the context, the mob are treated like the victims and the original victim gets his life thrown away. So if you live in Wisconsin, better just let drunk teenagers hospitalize you rather than stand up for yourself.

😢 it's a shame that this young man lost his life but it's a shame that another man is going to have to spend the rest of his life in prison because the kids decided to bully him mob mentality took over...😢