Thanks for the kind words. Since starting this channel I've learned just as much about video editing as I have about the Steam Controller and Steam Input software. So it's always warming to hear positive words about the video itself. If you need any help with the Steam Controller then feel free to ask. I've been using mine for 3 years now, in every game, and have spent a lot of time with the software. I'm glad to hear that you are dusting it off and giving it another shot though. This controller is revolutionary and I can't imagine going back to mouse+keyboard or a traditional controller. It's an amazing device once you adjust to it.

This is one of SIAPI's compromises but it should be better over time as we -- both the devs and the users -- get used to it. They didn't actually try to disable it -- that's impossible -- but they did hide it from the default set of choices. One of Steam Input's Legacy issues is choice overload. There are too many options and a lot of people end up just using someone else's config or they switch to another controller. SIAPI improved this by creating Basic and Advanced options and allowed the devs to determine what should be found in each. The Basic settings should only contain what a majority of users will want to use an Input Source for. So while it might seem a bit odd to see options hidden, this is entirely intentional and should result in more users making their own configs rather than relying on others. And as more games adopt SIAPI we should see this practice more often which will make it less surprising when we do see it.

How do I turn this screen off I don’t see much KZfaqrs with this screen

If you turn Steam Input (Beta) to Off then you'll need to press your Guide button to open the overlay and access the configurator through the traditional method. While in the configurator you'll need to make a Legacy Config though; only mouse, keyboard, or Xbox bindings. After that it should work.

@@criticalinput I've tried this and steam gives me a message of some sort basically saying I can't access the controls unless I turn on in game controller support. I'm extremely picky about input lag and this has essentially caused me to quit playing my favorite game.

@@dwabado Hmmm....I've switched back to a Legacy Config without any issues. Alright, first of all I need to know exactly what you are trying to do. Which controller are you trying to use? If it isn't a Steam Controller, are you wanting to use Steam Input or Rocket League's native controller support?

@@criticalinput If you could help me out I'd be extremely grateful. Since it's a bit hard to communicate like this, here is my discord: awedgoo #6747. If discord doesn't work, let me know how I can best contact you.

@@dwabado Did you ever get your problem solved? I'm in the same boat

If you are using SIAPI then no. The whole point of the API is divorcing key bindings from the game and to have Steam Input handle them. If you are using a legacy config (aka you're binding keyboard or Xbox buttons to your controller) then yes.

In Steam set your config to Xinput or m+k and then when you load Rocket League make sure to disable Steam Input in Options -> Controls. (At the bottom set "Steam Input (beta)" to Off)

@@criticalinput how do i turn it off now there isnt an option to turn it off

Max Trice I want to go back aswell but idk how to

3lbad738 2 I figured it out when it opens of steam controller thingy got to browse and than click on the original psyonix controls.

This video was about an API, not an application, so I'm not sure if you are wanting to know about the benefits of Steam Input (SI) vs native controller support or the benefits of the Steam Input API (SIAPI) vs XInput API. While there are a lot of nuances between the two arguments the ultimate reason why someone would want to use SI or SIAPI is customization.

Dude, I get notifications for all of my comments -- there isn't any need to spam multiple videos with this same question. As for an answer, I don't have one. It appears that Psyonix forces SIAPI for Steam Controller users. For other controllers you could disable Steam Input on a per-game basis inside of Rocket League's Properties in Steam. But I stopped using Steam Input and the Steam Controller precisely because of things like this so I'm actually a little bit out of the loop as far as game specific workarounds.

Critical Input alright thanks

Yup, I said I couldn't give it the gold standard label yet but that it was certainly on it's way. Assuming Psyonix keeps working on it I don't see how it wouldn't reach that level by the time it exits beta. However, you do bring up a great point with the vibration. I didn't mention it at all and that's because I don't think about it. I don't even use it. But it certainly is a factor that I should keep in mind as I continue to talk about SIAPI supported titles. Thanks for reminding me about this feature and I'll be sure to include it in the future.

Critical Input also ur vids are awesome I wish more people talked about steam input, it's really my most favorite feature on steam and one I hope gets more recognition in the future.

Critical Input wanna 1v1 in two days I think I may be better than you even tho I’m silver.

I can dribble, double jump aerial and more

Honestly I'd recommend a legacy config at this point. I was having issues consistently pulling off half flips with SIAPI and they recently added new features to the Replay Viewer and I don't know that they updated the SIAPI config to reflect these new bindings. To get your Switch Pro Controller working you need to enable Switch Pro Controller Support in Steam's Controller Settings and then load a gamepad template into Steam Input for Rocket League.

Critical Input i actually had switch pro input enabled and it never worked and the configs weren’t the problem. I pretty much just went in controller settings and just tried everything i could and it started working but i have no idea why.

Very strange. I know RL had a rather large update yesterday so when I get to my computer today I'll see if my controller works and if I can still see the Steam Input (beta) option or not.

You're right, it looks like the Steam Input (beta) option was silently removed -- probably because the automatic detection works well enough that they don't need it anymore. I tried switching between Legacy and SIAPI configs and Rocket League knew exactly what was up each time. I'm not sure why you had trouble getting your controller detected but I'm glad you got it working.

have you found a fix?

@@Titoo2xx Sadly no. Both Reddit and Rock League forums didnt find an answer.

Beanos Same i happening with me can u help?

chanan gupta I finally figured out how to fix it ( i think). First right click on rocket league and go to properties you should see a new window with a few tabs. The default tab has options on the bottom. On the option “Steam input per-game setting” click the drop down menu under it and pick forced off. For me it doesn’t work but for others it does.

Are you using the official DS3 drivers or are you using a third party wrapper like scptoolkit? If you aren't using the official drivers then your controller will show up as an Xbox 360 controller to Steam. As for why the name of the controller changed, I have no idea. You can change that name in the personalization area of the Controller Settings though.

Critical Input i guess i am using a third party program how can i use the official ds3 driver tho?

Critical Input because my controller has sixaxis and I don’t think i am taking the advantage of it as i am playing with the xbox 360 configs .. please I’ve been struggling with it for a long time if i can send me a link or tell me the way to use the ds3 configurations

@@d7eemo270 Depending on which program you are using (DS3Tool, Better DS3, MotionInJoy, ScpToolkit etc) determines how you will need to go about removing it. Some of these are more difficult to completely get rid of so do some googling for how to uninstall the one that you use. You'll probably want to reboot after you uninstall the software. Then you need to download Playstation NOW. It should recognize your DS3 and request permission to install a driver. Let it do this. Another reboot is probably good here. Then go to the Controller Settings in Steam and enable Playstation Controller Support. And that's about it. However, I should warn you that Steam Input doesn't supports the IMU chip (the SixAxis) in the Dualshock 3. I know it does for the Dualshock 4 but if doesn't for the DS3. It also doesn't recognize the analog face button. So technically you aren't missing out on anything by using your current setup. If you want to use the gyrometer then I highly suggest upgrading to a Dualshock 4, if you can. Between the gyro and the touchbar it is easily my favorite non-Steam Controller gamepad.

Critical Input ty , well explained as always. Appreciate it m8

Pertaining to the cursor always being present, that is a holdover from the game not entirely understanding SIAPI, hence why the glyphs are also mouse/keyboard. Even though it is accepting controller input it isn't switching to the controller UI. Both of these issues should be resolved simultaneously between now and when it leaves beta. And the beta status is also why it feels clunky. As long as they follow through with this, that clunkiness will be removed with further patches. As for your comment about the Switch Controller, it doesn't require SIAPI. In fact, no controller requires it. Steam Input is more than capable of getting any controller working with practically any game. The Steam Input API specifically relates to how the gamepad get read by the game and how the game sends info to the gamepad. Also, the Switch Controller is a proficient controller and has a nice feel to it. It's only major flaw is that Nintendo put digital triggers in it. An issue that doesn't really matter too much in RL. However, to help you have the best experience I will offer some troubleshooting. For the time being, disable the beta Steam Input support in Rocket League and use an XInput config just like before. SIAPI isn't being forced on anyone and, as far as I see it, will continue to be an option alongside native Xbox and DS4 support.

I tried using DS4 with my ps4 controller but it doesnt work. It still forced me to put on the option ingame before my controller would work. I used to put my controller on and it works just fine but with this update it forces me to put on the setting no matter what i use. I tried turning it off and getting the controller to work but nothing, then installed DS4 without having the setting on and still didnt work. Deleted the drivers and bluethoot setting and redid all of it and it still didnt work. I was busy for 2 hours trying various things to get it to work but nothing worked except turning on the setting. I dont mind them putting it in the game, but putting a very early beta version of it into the game that cant even tell the difference between controller inputs of arrow inputs from a keyboard seems a little strange to me. It took me about an hour to already figure out my previous controlls i had. Cuz it reset everything when i turned the steam input on :/

My best advice currently is to file a bug report over on Rocket League's Steam Discussion page. I haven't heard anything about them working on a fix for it but the more people who let them know about the issue, the faster it should get updated.

If you Right Click Rocket League in your Steam Library and select Properties you should see a new window with a few tabs. The default tab has some options at the bottom: Steam Input Per-Game Settings and Use BPM Overlay When Steam Input is Active. I believe you can disable the controller mapper if you change the "Steam Input Per-Game Setting" to "Forced Off"

Critical Input When I put forced off the controller doesn’t even connect with rocket league but thank you for the help. Let me know if you find something 👍🏼

Woo thank you bro I felt like I was being Suppressed now I can 1v3 people again

Yup, the gyro can be used for anything in any game. For RL, just set it to Joystick Move and then make sure you only toggle the Gyro On when you are in the air -- or have it on all the time and do some sweet gyro steering.

Critical Input what is gyro steering???

Driving the car with the gyro.

Critical Input what is the “ gyro”

Oh. It's the motion controls. Like you could rotate your controller like a steering wheel and turn the car that way.

Close. Diamond 3 Div3 (Standard). I'm so close to Champ 1 but I'm also close enough to know that I have a long ways to go to get there.

Critical Input i always think about something hidden from us that only pros know.. something like xinput or maybe something with the joysticks xD