她对如懿是爱啊！只是不自知自己是女同罢了。其实海兰心机深，手段狠，只不过她是依附如懿的，所以如懿能hold住，不至于让海兰行为太过。魏嬿婉是依附皇帝的，她的恶念恶行没有被皇帝辖制，所以肆意害了很多人。

如果當皇后真的不得了

不久就是替女主把髒事辦光的人設 生孩子都是為了女主毫無自我

但海蘭畢竟是知恩圖報，性格屬於正直、懂得自重的類型，不像某些人，日子好好的也要害別人看能不能讓自己跟自己的兒子上位。海蘭比較像是覺醒看透了宮廷叢林法則，不願意再坐以待斃，連如懿的份也一起負責了。

是的

Ruyi was Hailan's strength and protector for so long. Later after Hailan had learned to play the game she protected and avenged Ruyi. I agree they were 2 sides on the same coin though.

應該是說 如懿即便心裡有恨，也不願傷及無辜。

活該

演的真好👍

她活該，但可憐永琮了。。

都是因為他做那麼多壞事才會連累孩子 他的孩子何其無辜

玫嫔是太后派去的

看完整部戏再来看你自己的评论 看你在说什么

Let us not forget that the Queen Mother put this woman in there she put two spies to spy on the husband two women spies Queen Mother put these women in there it seem like it turned out pretty bad she didn't expect them to go crazy but yeah the Queen Mother planted these two women and look what happened

玫嬪是因為背後有太后這個大靠山，才敢和皇后一般見識，但她性子莽撞，做事不經思索，最後終被賜死，也是悲哀....

​@@reynerdtee1226 ❤/

Wow! That's nice to know and makes sense..ty!!

So true. And a flock of crows is called a murder..... fitting but horrible.

Yes because the children are innocent and didn’t deserve to die the way they did from these schemes 🤧

Jia actually killed Mei's kid but used empress to do it

不ㄅ

And it was Jia who killed those kids. That’s another bit’s!

She also prevented Ruyi and another concubine from having children for so long with those bracelets.

Consort jia

She poisoned herself while pregnant tho to frame others and gain favor. No one else did that. She orchestrated her own downfall by being greedy and taking extreme actions with no regard for her baby until the baby died

@@amberthemagnificent7259 Was that in the book? That was not what the show lead you to believe.

@@katherinkeegan8601 its literally in the show lmao, she was poisoning herself

Mei Pin poisoned her face ointment to frame Ruyi, and was poisoned by Jia Pin and lost her baby . Then Jia Pin tried again later on in the series but only succeeded in killing her parrot

She can't escape retribution

Wasn't Mei also only around 15? It's no wonder she was emotionally unstable.

Such practice were not the norms back then though. The ladies in the harem were said to be amicable with each other most of the times & almost all of them are sheltered noble ladies who are accustomed to living like a family with fellow concubines. Children usually died young back then mostly due to lack of proper health care. It's just that palace dramas like this are based on novels that are not historically accurate but interesting altogether. An example is in the novel this drama was based on, the main antagonist of the story is WYW but historically she and Ruyi could have had a good relationship because a portrait of Ruyi was later found in her belongings even after the Emperor ordered to destroy every portraits of RY.

This is what we call empty prayers they do evil to others but they don't think the sins of the of the fathers come back to the children so her prayers are not even hitting the ceiling they're just empty prayers people still do that today when they're selfish and want something from God disregarding what they have did and they said and not asking for their own forgiveness in their own mess I do serve a god of Mercy yes he is but when you have selfish and useless prayers they don't go nowhere they're just empty prayers they don't go they don't even penetrate the ceiling

有些感觉变扭的地方也没办法，其实如懿传拍出来的时候100集左右，导演花絮里有说，为了过审导演大概删减了30集左右的剧情，实在可惜

I'm also not sure why no one really caught on that since the women in the Harem could not be punished due to their tribe in court, then people targeted their children instead. Empress, Noble Consort, and Jia do what they did in this show as well in the book?

As with most dramatizations, there is major changes from the book. Ruyi wouldn't look like the sympathetic character if she is portrayed like the book. Apparently in the book she ties A'Rou in a sack with several feral cats as well. Again not the best look for the main love interest character.

@@katherinkeegan8601 oh were those feral cats, not just normal cats??

@@user-ix1rp9ff3p Can't say for sure since I haven't read the book. I was just restating what many others have posted on other sites. Many do mention the cats being feral.

@@katherinkeegan8601 That scene with A'rou almost made it into the drama. A'rou's last scene shows her cowering in the corner, if you look closely she's covered in scratches.

集體團滅

empress Mother has Sulian doing some of this. then Sulian went to hui andJia to get some ideas and instructions

Not to mention 1st Prince's mother and sister, plus causing Ruyi and Gao to be infertile. Annnnd trying frame & murder Ruyi repeatedly.

孩子太无辜了

The fact that both her sons were born weak and starts to die around the time she commit bad deeds really seem like retribution the oldest her daughter was the only healthy child she had around the time when she hasn't starts to do bad deeds but even she was forced to marry into a "bad" marriage(nothing compared to lain xin to he honest)as annoying of a brat as I found her to be she not as bad as her mom and still at least deserved to be a princess she did her duties as expected of her and at the very least thought of the kingdom and even her other siblings even from the other wives of her dad that she look down on like due to ying advice she managed to at least stop yanwang son from being corrupted it a shame her mom being a terrible role model ruin her to hate ruyi and made her do bad things she should still at least be able to be reborn as a human but from the working to the merchant class I can't see her deserving a noble life after all she done

她的孩子可怜 被她害死的孩子就不可怜么

@@yinqihu5739 她的孩子可怜 被她害死的孩子可怜 就她不可憐

或許孩子去了也是好事，至少不用一輩子被媽媽跟她的家人情勒去做一些他可能做不到的事

是啊 她也是一位母亲😥

But you remember that she could kill two of her own kids when they were sick he kept working them until they died she killed her own two children didn't nobody else kill her first two children

是啊 嬪妃之間的勾心鬥角也會波及到無辜的人

應該回宮伺奉主子前會先消毒淨身，畢竟貞淑懂醫，知道傳染病的嚴重性。

戲嘛！

Search “ruyi zhuan “,it will show you the whole 87 episodes

@@okmcglone997 Thank you very much. I can see I will be busy for the next few nights.

@@okmcglone997 God bless you😊

@@janblackhurst1652 weeks* each episode is about 45 minutes and there are over 100 episodes if I'm not mistaken

@@janblackhurst1652 👌hope you enjoy them!

董潔

他們還有一個天然的避孕藥耶，這有啥好稀奇的

@@Lisilaylook3saio 对 带了那么多年居然还有效果😂

@@swnail1680 皇后她們是皇家藥劑師協會中國分會會員之打胎大隊,用藥手段之高非吾等小民能理解的

是的

Yes. The nursemaid breastfeed all the royal babies. Their moms breast milk is for the emperor... 🤦🤦🤦

ya you are correct

Correct. Royal babies had wet nurses to feed them. This is (I think) to prevent the children from attaching strong bonds with their birth mothers. Also children from lower-ranking concubines were to be raised by higher-ranking concubines and after they reach certain age, the children will be sent to a sort of academy within the Palace where they would live and tutored there. Again, the purpose was so the children don't get too attached to their birth mothers.

@@nekonette Why do you think that is? I know that filial piety is important is Chinese culture, so wouldn’t them being close to their mothers be the best?

@@kakes121 It is true that filial piety is very important in Confucian societies, the royal children can still perform their obligations to their biological mothers but not to the point of placing them over certain things. In the imperial family, social hierarchy is also very important, the Emperor and Empress are considered the legal parents of all the royal children regardless of who their birth mothers were. So they take precedence when it comes to children showing their filial piety. Again this is just what I gather from watching and reading here and there, another reason is to prevent the mothers from taking advantage of their children's special positions one day. The sons will grow up to be Emperor/Dukes/High rank officials and their mothers use their close relationship to take advantage to gain favour/special dispensations/etc for herself or her clan. This can potentially destabilise the power balance in the court and nation. Take Consort Jia, for example. In the novel, her motive to push her children to the throne was to help her clan to break free from Qing control. She was hoping one of her sons will become the Emperor so she can use that position to release the Jin clan/Joseon from being vassal state to Qing China which will make her first love happy.

Well, it wouldn't have come out in a nice way since not evil hearted concubines have also lost their babies due to either natural facts or someone else's scheming🤔 SPOILER ALERT For example, Jingse (5th princess, Ruyi's daughter) died because of Wei Yanwan giving them clothes to Ruyi's son (12th prince) and siblings getting them switched. Well, the clothes aimed to the prince had a smell that drove Jia's dog crazy, go towards Jingse, startle her and make her collapse. Not only did Ruyi suffer given the death of her daughter but also had a miscarriage. Hence, we cannot forget Consort Shu and her deceased son. She truly loved the Emperor and never held mean intentions towards the other concubines. Plus, she was longing to be a mother. What I mean is that a situation like that should be studied to find whether it is a culprit or it is due to a natural situation so once everything is crystal clear, the scheming ones should be sentenced to death🤔

That would motivate the schemers more to do it. A wicked consort with a strong family background would see it as an oportunity to raise to the empress seat and get the crown prince position for her son.

@@Yoruichi_16 I honestly don't think the imperial system would have any solution to help keep the children alive....

送你一颗💖

你的國文是體育老師教的嗎

我們都歹哭，都歹陪著你哭🥲

即使皇后事前沒有參與，事後包庇也有她的份。身為中宮皇后卻縱容旁人謀害皇嗣，背鍋是她活該

是的

💖💖💖

每一胎都是兒子

體質。 有的人就是很容易懷上，有的人則相反，用盡一切辦法，怎麼樣都懷不上孩子。

不是吧

😉也不少~

聽說1兩=3000台幣 所以辦個喪事15萬 @@

@@zz0987050945 現在這個世代，差不多~

紅樓夢裡面 王公侯伯 （公）家的姨娘 1個月的月錢是 2兩 大丫鬟兩吊錢 但考慮到那個時候 很多食物都是自幾種 或是吃顧主的

是的

誰😂

说的是那个角色？

@@Binge-watching 她說的是皇后演員本人的事

很多好戏都不火，不该怪剧吧，有很多好东西需要有品味有内涵的人才看得懂

其实如意的性格很像甄嬛传里的眉姐姐 也是一个敢爱敢恨善良单纯的人 眉姐姐在甄嬛传里热度很高 但是在这部剧里就展现了为何眉姐姐那样的人在后宫活不下去

你給我住嘴！

如懿傳的確不是很好看，劇情斷點有時候很怪，加上如懿本身在劇中凸顯性格確實很不討喜，加上皇帝演技不夠。 樓上有人說如懿像眉莊，的確是有點。但是沈眉莊是以一個配角身份受歡迎，以女主角來說個性有點窩囊無趣。

如懿傳很火啊，衹是被大陸禁播了啊。因為从宮鬥劇可以看到現實中國政治制度的全貌啊，衹是你不懂而已😂