And we’re actually shown interviews and literal evidence. Tom doesn’t mess around. Also that Max guys voice makes me physically ill

i am a bullfrog and i approve of this statement

I learned more in the first 30 seconds

Because Mamamax is a lazy fraud in this for his own gain, and it's amazing people didn't pick up on that when he was first caught faking content and bullying people to support him. Later interviews showing he didn't even know the most basic relevant laws to cases he pretended to be the champion about for years, and just asking chatGPT for all of his "research" was that "sounds about right" moment. Saying his lies about death threats, lies about catching people, was raising awareness by speaking from an alternative dimension where pedos ruled the world and he was the leader of the rebellion, and KZfaq was just too dumb to understand this, was the sprinkles on his borderline personality disorder cake. How can anyone support him?

Cause max was doing this shit for money and clout

That entire drama perfectly summarized

Indeed. I had a really messy relationship when I was a teenager and this sounds exactly like that, right down to the Whisper and Kik stuff. It just SCREAMS highschool drama that they never grew out of

it's all so cringe 😭😭 this was so hard to listen to

Spencer just really loves cult leaders be it a edgy poly one or a megalomaniac who thinks he has a cult of personality

Perfectly said

LMAO

To be fair, it is easy enough to assume that the WWE match happened while the family was away.

It's the werewolf powers man

I get the feeling she def fabricated some of her story.. not excusing the dudes action at all tho

@@hunterashton673 Yeah, she absolutely is. A stone vase the size she’s describing weighs like 100lb, and she’s talking like he’s picking it up like you would in Zelda. 😅

Especially when she uses names of characters straight from Law & Order 😂😂

Bro I know 😂 like wtf are these girls talking about? Out of nowhere they will be talking about werewolf lore like it's real life.

@@Astra_DystopiumStephanie Meyer destroyed an entire generation lol.

@@Astra_Dystopium Blaccula went grrrrrrrrr into the camera... that's as far as i understood.

A moron lied and now wants to blame an ex for their being a liar and an idiot. There I summed up "Spender" for you. She's a dime a dozen "MeToo" liar who wants to be the victim, when they are in fact the guilty one. Never believe any victims who don't report their cases immediately and with evidence.

​@@mikeoxlong1395 Blaccula? More like Count Chocula

DUDE SPOILER! smh hahaha

No no no I saw the video he's REALLY powerful and scary

You have proof bitch?

Plot Twist They Are All Teenage Vampire werewolves angel goddesses who are all pregnant in an abusive poly relationship and none of them graduated Hs

​@@Scarlettfeverdreamofnyso...reddit/discord mashed up with wattpad?

😆😆😆

Hahahahah

That part is crazy. Especially that her current perspective is still that way, and she isn’t even framing it as how she felt at the time or anything. The mental gymnastics

Its crazy she thinks we believe should climbed through the window without shaking the houses foundation

@@dumbfoundedkiryu9468 And she's never "lived off saltines" a day in her life.

💀

💀💀

Gorlock 👹

Not Gorlock😂😂😂😂😂 fking ded

he probably led her away with a van saying "free my chemical romance merch" lmfao

Blackula and Gorlock...still better than Twilight.

Nah bro gorlock is crazy 😂

Ive known a girl just like her for 8 years. She was my best friend. Believing all of her stories that are always so full of gory and disturbing things was so much for 14 year old me to handle.. it was a lot. To this day I wont believe a single word that comes out of her mouth, even if I want to believe her so badly. I just cant.

She definitely knows, because she suddenly claimed to have PCOS when asked about her lack of D&C.

I’m surprised how little everyone is talking about how calm she is. Like, people process grief differently, but I don’t think a single person on earth could go through this level of abuse and trauma and then just talk about it like it’s nothing. It’s like she’s talking about the weather or something, there’s not even a crack in her voice to indicate she’s holding back tears. She doesn’t even sound like she’s numb about it, like some might expect from someone whose been through insane abuse like this, she’s got the inflection of someone talking about how it rained a little yesterday in the middle of summer. I have been through some rough stuff myself, including SA, and even though it was long ago now and I have generally grown past it, I still find myself crying sometimes over what happened. I’m not healed, exactly, and I don’t think I ever really can be, but even though it’s been more than a decade, I can still find myself breaking down when I think about it too hard. I’m repulsed by kids and never want to have them, but even I would probably never talk about a miscarriage as casually as this.

@@RailfoxStudios Great point. I would add that you called out the exact reason why no one believes her, even without all the fake miscarriage nonsense. Experts say that 80 to 90% of communication is nonverbal so we're all looking at HOW shes telling this story before even processing her weird ass timelines and unrealistic scenarios. THEN when we think about what shes saying, we've already all but dismissed it because her tone and body language are screaming "IM DOING THIS FOR ATTENTION LOOK AT MEEE". TLDR: Bitch doesnt pass the vibe check 🤣

​@@zogwort1522your voice cracking is kinda like going into falsetto, doesn't have anything to do with the vocal fry

Yeah I caught that. I wonder if that was the reason she got booted. Camden found out and despite being a creep he may not actually be a pedo. He learned what she tried to do and booted her. Then went to go check on the girl. Idk

Its very likely to be a load of bs like the rest of her tale

If a victim helps victimize others they are no better than the abuser

​@@dirtymarauder7553Virginia Giuffre

literally talking about the r**** incident with a 13 year old and her "trying to cancel the uber" i'm calling the fucking police in that incident and the way she talks about it is remorseless if this shit actually happened i think she holds no self accountability which is kind of disgusting to me

Most sane discord group:

Yes thank you lol

This the most accurate TLDR of the situation

This seems to be exactly what happened.

High school? Bro, I knew people like this in COLLEGE. Freaking crazy

He looks like Cory from Cory in the House lol

I swear that sound like a name from a 90's sitcom

The Dark Lord

@@bluemariomedia8351it’s an actual movie

At least there are no "crimes against children" involved!🤔Just weired people who lied and abused each other...🙄

Or a roleplay group that takes stuff too seriously

That's 100% what this was.

@@nman551reminds me of the FFVII House.

​@@LeighsLittleLifebut worse, yeah.

Tbh it really comes off as "girl ran away from home to be with internet boyfriend, realized it wasn't fun living with him and his parents, regretted it, then went back home and claimed everything was abuse to escape responsibility." It's hard to say without hearing both sides, but it's really hard to believe most of her claims and allegations. They just seem way too far fetched to believe that all of this abuse, assault, and beatings were going on in his parents home without anyone hearing or noticing.

if only it was real

he cracked the code.

He flew too close to the sun.

LMAOOOOOOOOO 😂🤣💀

Too bad they're ugly as sin.

Ain’t it crazy how he couldn’t do one video right on a real person

Real person, fake "cult".

​​​@@flanflan88eh seems like it was a real cult at least from where I've gotten into the video but it seems like it was way over Dramatized parodied to fit into MamaMax's weird delusional super pedophile cults running the world and a resistance called the children ran by him fighting back this Camden does seem like a weird delusional cultist that convinced Gullible people around him into following his cult but it's nothing like how Max explained it

I thought Camden was just an actor. All of it is just so absurd it sounds like a really bad ARG

Real person, who used to date spencer, dumped her, and nows shes trying to ruin his life. All the "cult" shit is just shitty online roleplay

Periods are WACK They do want they want when they want, it's the worst

Malnutrition? Look at her, girl is built like a 1996 Ford Bronco 😂😂

@@imjustroleplaying Especially werewolf vampire periods, apparently.

@@SuperCosmicMutantSquidwerewhale

Assuming her claims are true, she was absolutely malnourished. Clearly, she beat that shit a long time ago.

I thought I was crazy, it was from Supernatural.

@@chrisb4131 season 7 lol

Hotline Supernatural

Or Hellraiser

@@bluemagician9724 Hellraiser had hardcore BDSM demon dorks. These are just regular dorks so not really Hellraiser, more this other thing OP was telling about.

You know. How can he possibly be caught? He have more money and connections than Epstein. FBI can't touch him because of his powers

rl i laughed when she said dat. can not take her serious 4 shit

Yeah if there was actually that many people that went to Georgia that got SA'd by Camdan, it'd be a national news story.

@@SeriousStriker even if she's talking about like sexting, that's still an absurd number, and no one has come forward with screen caps?

i don’t think there’s even 1 victim

I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.

moufronn

I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.~

I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.~

I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.~

Damn! 😂

I mean... Just look at her. She looks like the type to lie about literally anything for attention. They ALWAYS look the same.

she actually sounds upset he kicked her out of the cult. then talks about how she escaped......she didn't escape? getting kicked out means there was nothing to escape from.

I know a woman who would tell her husband, "get me drunk or we're not having sex" regularly when he wanted any intimacy. She eventually turned around and accused him of getting her drunk to take advantage of her and SA her. She included all those times that she demanded to get drunk knowing it would end in sex. But literally everyone remembered that, so no one took the SA accusations seriously. Because honestly she was just eager to dump him and look morally righteous doing it before she moved on to another man she was having a secret affair with. Said man she was having a secret affair with was a known abuser.

​@@Kanaleah source?

@@enough2715 Source? Source? Source? Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't. I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.

@@enough2715… it’s an anecdotal story? Why tf you asking for a source.

​@@RuinedComedianpay no mind. He's an idiot.

Kinda hard to do that when you have people like Spencer who more than likely had a normal family life but was acting like a little shit because her parents didn't let her do destructive shit and she labeled them as abusive.

@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid not a defense of spencer, but bad home lives are usually the reason why kids get involved with these dumb destructive groups

Or that certain people shouldn’t be parents.

This story basically supports why the men and women in the younger generation refuses to have children. These young people needed protection and direction, didn't get it, now a huge mess.

@@SuperCosmicMutantSquidFrom how manipulative Spencer seems, 99% of the time it’s a result of a bad home life. I have no idea if her parents are abusive & I don’t want to speculate, but she had to have learned that behavior from somewhere at a young age

Yeah this whole thing is a farce

It's VERY VERY VER improbably. Stranger things have happened but I'm not very inclined to believe her and im pretty sure she just had her period once a month for 4 months LMAOOOO

​@@IchigoDeFoliebeing overweight and malnourished (if we're to believe her stories of being starved) could all lead to irregular periods and stomach issues, aka the only reasons for her thinking she was pregnant

Yeah, her description of the timings for all the pregnancies and miscarriages don’t really add up. Also, is it just me or was there come contention as to whether they were miscarriages or abortions? I seem to remember that from Tom’s last video

Well and don’t you need to have a procedure done after a miscarriage to avoid complications? I am not a doctor nor a woman but miscarriage implies that something is there it just didn’t make it right? So I would think you would need to get it out.

BLACKULA? 💀💀💀

​@kms1011 yeah blackula is Dc's blade 😎

@@xAA-zd9np OG Blade.

​@@kms1011it's a 1970s blaxploitation movie. He's black Dracula.

"blackula" is fucking hilarious lmaoooo

This. People saying these people are dumb for believing the vampire stuff but not realizing Camden literally targeted, “kids who want to run away.” Most kids don’t seriously want to run away unless their home life is already messed up. Likely most of them have previous abuse, possibly physical or sexual. That on top of being. 12-16 and highly impressionable.

@Thebritcoll Bruh, don’t even start that nonsense again. We already went through that with Spencer and Max the first few times around, and until I see some actual evidence supporting these accusations, shut your stupid face. 🥱

@@Thebritcollmy little sister is 9 years old decently online and nowhere near this retarded. This is neglected stupid and overweight child looking for acceptance anywhere they could get it. It comes down to actually having an attentive home live

the problem is the one who gave them those issues are also the ones who gave them cellphones so like..

What this. What is video what happening. Exit

I agree

The whiplash is INSANE

She definitely had things in perspective.

The part of how they just hide the SDcard / the phone files to protect the guy is funny too. If he is your God, then any regular human can't unsubscribe the guy. How a regular human can beat a God, this is not a video game holy shit.

Shit I'm glad you commented this; I thought I was a shitty person lol.

Bruh. Obviously Blackula went through a training arc to beat her one last time.

Hey, she had just had her daily rations of saltine and was thus loaded up on electrolytes...who knows the last time he fed on someone. ;)

All while he was still in high school.

WE LIFTIN UP 60 POUND STONE VASES IN THIS ONE‼️🗣️🔥🔥

JARATE!

@@rnpee YABA DABA DOOOOOOOO!

Piss jars are a staple of every good story

Piss jars used to be an actual witchcraft thing, they're still digging them up back east, but idk why people brag about doing it like 😂 keep it to yourself fam

A vampire werewolf god

​@@amusingmoose9924 A 2 in one god 😱

i imagine Camden's voice to sound like Steve Urkel LOL

Spencer wanted Camden's sexual werewolf energy but he just wanted a friend. ☹

Spencer strikes me as someone who has the intelligence of a chicken and will believe literally anything someone tells her and will say whatever keeps eyes on her

Yeah they’re somewhat awkward

Mhm. I'm not one of those people who loses my shit about AI, as though using it for filler and B roll makes you a bad person somehow, but several of the pics are noticeably poorer in quality than if Tom just used stock photos. I recently discovered Tom's channel, and I immediately became a fan. The AI images are just a small nitpick, though. If he had gone in and touched them up, I think that would have helped a lot.

Wait, people are actively watching Tom's videos? I usually use Tom's stuff as background audio.

It's the one where a black dude is holding a box of crackers for me xD

@@CCLFan1 for real, unsplash is free and homie be usin the worst dang AI generated crap for b roll 😭 hopefully he's not paying for a sub bc what a damn waste of money when a legit stock image is just as good

i just got to that part and im genuinely baffled a college student falling for this shit lmao. she also talks like a fucking 15 year old high schooler, not a college graduate lmfaooo

As a college graduate... it ain't what it used to be. You have room temperature IQ people getting degrees because they're diploma kills at this point. As long as you show up you basically pass.

I mean, to be fair, if someone who might be delusional (for example), they can sound like they really believe it. And if that person tells you stuff like that over and over again while being really manipulative, you might actually believe it too, no matter how smart you are. Being intelligent ≠ not being easily manipulated.

Shoko Asahara's cult had a majority composition of college to university educated individuals, being intelligent doesn't necessarily mean you aren't easily led on.

​@@HallowedOstelogist Being intelligent just means that they can rationalize their beliefs better. No one is immune to falling for dumb shit

This is exactly my sentiment towards her story no matter what I’ve never seen someone talk so nonchalantly about their abuse and SA there is always some type of emotional response but her completely devoid of emotion

What do we really know about Camdan beyond what she has claimed? Nothing she says is believable, so why should we believe what she says about him?

And It is always an SA. Everyone she met that was male just SAed her. Like it feel like a bad lifetime movie where the female lead is is just a magnet and everything with a penis is evil. SA is serious and bull like this is what makes it so much harder for actual victims to come forward.

Yeah I felt that way too. I don’t wanna discredit SA victims but it feels like every interaction she had in her story lead to her being SA’d. It feels a little fishy. And they are just random people too, not Camden. It feels like she just wanted to be a general victim not get Camden caught.

BPD

Literally

Hahahaha xD so true. Every girl in in this story is comicly dumb af

With a twist of Supernatural. "Ishmael" is a borderline illiterate kid's attempt at an angel name, they don't know about Moby Dick cause they couldn't get through 2 pages of it

1000%

word at the tavern is that leviathans are coming for him

@@Glitter_H_Hoof Can you contact Turkey Tom and tell him to line his doors and windows with salt? And to stock up on holy water. I'm worried about him.

​@@zazikikomo7796 wouldn't it be wolfsbane instead of salt? And, like, silver?

Nah look he'll want to surround his house in lemon juice and rolled up newspapers

Meanwhile saying some other girl is "accountable" and "must have known something was wrong" 😂

@@chloeep9329 that bugs me so much. she tries to paint the other girl as Ghislaine Maxwell and it's like "no bitch it's you!!!"

Well, these videos are about how "bad" someone was to her. Don't get that confused with how someone was "bad" to people in general. ;)

This exactly. So fucked up.

The fact we still know more about Spencer's shady shit than Camden's is amazing.

I mean the evidence the police got made it 100% they were lying about him, so idk why you'd come to that conclusion other than "men=bad"

Exactly

No I bet it was just metoo garbage from a angry piggy.

Oh my god I was just listening than *sudden Wendigoon* I picked up my phone so fast 😂

The way my brain went "WENDIGOON⁉️⁉️"

No fr tho!

I lov wendi, it was a bit of a jumpscare doe fr 😭

Wendigoon is goated

that's because it is lmao i feel like 90% of this stuff happened over wattpad and what she's describing is actually her RP logs. especially the whole "i was able to dodge under him and then pick him up and throw him against a wall" part? like that reads like someone's fantasy RP battle scene or something lol

Funny enough Wattpad plays a role in this enduring clusterfuck. I'm about 59% certain a large amount of this BS either occured or was initiated on Wattpad. Because all that dialogue looks like bad fanfiction writing.

😂😂😂😂

lol

"black guy with two women by his side, smiling, blonde, brunette, canvas image, forest bg"

@@rowrat7014 dont forget "fat"

Haha so I wasn’t alone in that 😂

Well max is actually really stupid. I’m betting he tried to use chatgpt to put the timeline together

​@@XxSTACKxXyes

Max needs to add some stupid voiceover and referencing hotline Miami while flashing images of SniperWolf and Critikal loool

i think the only reason max made it more vague and scary than it actually is was cuz he already promised spencer hed make a video on it, thats prolly why he just rambled and didnt show anything and just linked to the podcast.

Thought the same exact thing lol. They're both liars too.

Fat girl voice

similar bmi

Omg it is pretty similar

It's the fat girl voice.

Couldn't the missed periods be explained by malnutrition mistaken for pregnancy? She is obviously disingenuous and this story is definitely fictionalized and over Dramatized but it seems at least partially rooted in reality

@@ZeroDim Yes, you can mess up your period if your diet becomes fucked which with the whole 'eating only saltines' thing, would be the culprit. I've NEVER heard of orange juice being s trigger for a miscarriage consider that vitamin C is something that is WELCOMED while you're pregnant and he was just making her drink ORANGE JUICE, not like....OD on vitamin C supplements or something.

@@ZeroDim If by "reality" you mean "A Wattpad story" then yes

but werewolf babies can be aborted with cinnamon. Sorry sweaty, but the facts are against ur doctorate

@@EighmyLupin rooted as in there is some truth in the story or it is based off of something that actually happened from what I can tell it seems like some of this did happen but it was a lot more tame than the Wattpad story Spencer and Max cooked up

coming back after that 58:50 bit, this is the most batshit thing I have ever heard, like come on guys

​@@michaelbelcher4096somewhere towards the end pretty well explains at least how it's possible. These are a bunch of teenagers from messed up families living with untreated mental illnesses and/or emotional issues, looking for escapism. Otherkin vamp-wolf "god" shows up on whatever they're browsing and offers them escapism via delusional nonsense via Tumblr Wattpad fanfic, but FOR REALS. Then mix in the whole "better family" schtick and you can probably lure in people through "roleplaying" into your private Reddit/Discord harem, and all you need, via lessons from Tate and Ep est ein himself is to convince just one woman and get her hooked, then use her to lure in other women. Which is more or less what she admits happened. She was convinced that he was her everything, so she'd do anything to keep him happy. She's as much a victimizor as a victim. There's grains of truth somewhere under all the fanfic Final Fantasy house dramatic nonsense, but it's hard to be sure exactly what any of it is, or how much of its not exaggerated, due to her being at best an unreliable narrator, and at worst a willing accomplice in the recruiting for the Supernatural wattpad fanfic "cult" and wanting to try to hide from owning up to her responsibility and culpability.

lmao fr like how can u be in high school believing all this shit lmao werewolfs, vampires how fucking stupid u gotta be to fall for this shit at 16

Depressed children do stupid shit but this is straight retarded

In fairness, there is no shortage of very stupid people on this planet.

She said she had 4 miscarriages on 4 months, that should be reason alone to not believe her.

@@Sheffdawg2305yeah that’s just not possible. It sounds like she’s trying to make everything sound extreme as possible - ie with the miscarriages thing or with how according to her everyone in the world was SAing her right left and centre

@@Sheffdawg2305ikr, it literally takes on average 6 weeks or longer after pregnancy to get your menstrual cycle back, it’s like astronomically not likely at all to get pregnant and miscarry 4 months in a row

​@@jazg275Also she didn't even take a pregnancy test, which is how most people find out so early into pregnancy. She claimed she knew she was pregnant because she was very tired, hungry and I can't remember the other vague symptoms that could have been related to a hundred other common ailments.

and she also winked at Max every time she talked about her breaking up Like- is she now Max's 5/6 girlfriend?

And somehow no evidence for an arrest.

The AI stock images were pretty distracting

@@themcrib7920 very strange looking indeed.

@@markg2514 There's literal points in her story when she's talking about showing people "evidence" or events that she had friends present for. Why is she not showing us that "evidence" or having those supposed imaginary friends show up to tell us they actually did witness the things spencer says they did?

Yeah the AI pictures didn't need to be added

Also he dated another girl just to make you jealous?

"oh and you helped him by luring pre teen girls to his house so they could be sa'd too?"

Now it's even more freaking confusing than before Can we go back to the time where Mamaboy is threatening to send Reaper Leviathans on Cummin's house or something?

This is a cake walk compared to some of the other messed up stuff they have to deal with. I know a guy that used to be a homicide detective. It messed him up, especially when it involved kids getting murdered.

@@StallionStudios1234 I'm not saying it's the worst crime ever, just that it's 'wild' and cringe

Seriously. This is like Jupiter the Hybrid levels of rants

No seriously wtf is this story, it feels like it was made up along the way, just seems like a bunch of teenage girls fighting over a guy and they somehow turned it into this big ordeal

This is the type of story people who never did drugs came up with

Final Fantasy house vibes

This is only funny if you don't know anything at all about acid

Today, on My Story Animated...

Notice how Spencer never said HOW she convinced people to get free rides. Like she's in a RPG and max out charisma or something

@@cosafea8722 Yes, very weird to include in your story. Those tickets are expensive, especially crossing state lines. There’s also a bunch of things that don’t make sense to me either like she is always mentioned when there is some sort of conflict in the group. I think she has a even bigger role than she lets on

The one part that is believable is the love triangles with a larper. You wouldn't believe how weird/nerdy people get around. They're having more and kinkier sex than most 'normal' people.

Dont forget she was able to abort her own fetus with cinnamon and fucking orange juice. Who tf actually believes anything she says at this point? Jesus christ its hilariously stupid

The 4 pregnancies in 4 months is what got me. No pregnancy tests, and knew she was pregnant because she was sick and missed her period, so she'd need to be @ least a month into each one. Impossible! Wait a second... based on the # of pregnancies & the time span, it'd mean she didn't have her period to whole time. So how did she know it was multiple pregnancies & miscarriages, instead of one pregnancy & miscarriage?🤔

" immediately gets SA'd by the first adult she comes into contact with in every state," For real. My mom ran away from home and I always tell her how lucky she was she didn't get human trafficked by the bikers who picked her up. They treated her like she was an infant (she was super naive). I'm not saying you won't get SA'd if you're a young person on the streets, but EVERY DANG TIME? That's sus.

Yeah when a woman claims she's been SA'ed it should be looked into immediately as it should, but when a woman says she's been SA'ed by every single man she's ever come in contact with it should be clear that red flags are waving. And that the person isn't probably the most sane and rational person. The chances of you being SA'ed by every male encounter especially when you're 500 pounds of butter fat stuffed into a human sausage casing the chances of anyone SA'ing you in every start you visit is astronomically low. Like non existent.

Yeah. I’ve been around a few of these myself, there’s absolutely nothing you can do but avoid them like the plague. It’s always something catastrophic and they’re always super strong for powering through it and being a better person every time, while also being a perfect victim.

always gotta be the victim to justify how fucked up she is

God I had to deal with so many people like that in High School, so glad I don’t deal with anyone like that anymore

Reminds me of my ex, I remember when I opened up to her about being abused as a teen and she made it about her and I had to console her

The kind of woman lies even when telling the truth occasionally and accidentally

basically

TLDW: MamaMax has never exposed a single predator and has faked his entire career

Longer TLDW: Max would be a perfect Republican candidate, as he's accused everyone else of things he does

TLDw: I have no idea what happened because I didn't watch.

@@tzvikrasner6073Why make it political?

Omg that's so fucking pathetic and kinda really funny?😭😭😭😭😭 what the fuck😭😭😭😭😭

holy shit i didn't know about her being a fan of law&order... yeah that's absolutely hilarious then if she was just ass-pulling the name from the character of det. fontana lmaooo

Oh shit good catch!

Don't forget that there is also an SVU episode about a werewolf/vampire cult too.

This person admitted to luring kids to get groomed and raped

I mean who better to be in charge than someone who has made ALL the bad choices, right? Now they know what to avoid. Also, nevermind the fact that this person was apparently a longtime family acquaintance that you are now also able to milk for clicks. ;)

Yeah, and the whole “I didn’t think it was sexual assault until much later” is super sus to me too. She doesn’t seem like she has very much reliability as a narrator

She also managed to throw her abuser through a wall and admitted to luring victims...

@@mattlel3194Tbf many people don’t realize the piss poor education there.

@@mattlel3194When she said that, It made me realize she just read the most basic information about rape victims to make up her story. Its common for victims to not remember or not realize because the PTSD prevents them from seeing the trauma. The way she talked about it was absolutely not how it actually happens.

I bet she'll turn on MamaMax in the future as well

Considering Max has been known to exaggerate stuff for the sake of "filmmaking", I doubt that's even true. Camden was likely a creepy shty ex-bf, but doubt an actual cult-leader with a big following. Thank you Mamamax for making this entire situation an entire comedy

@@ammagon4519 the fact mamamax intentionally mixed film making with situations he claimed were real is beyond me "the story's are fake but the prededtor and pursuit is very real" makes 0 sense. Like what does that even mean? Is he muddling the waters to not get sued? Is he just a fool?

@@drewbakka5265 exactly, wth does he actually gain from purposefully fking up potential evidence for the investigation might use? Oh yea...💸💸💸

​@@drewbakka5265 probably a little bit of both

@@drewbakka5265I think what he meant by that is that the “Hotline Miami” style skits and the schizo editing were fake but the parts where he’s actually hunting people are real. Thing is, as Tom’s previous video showcases, not even some of those are real. Or, at least, it can be inferred that some of the hunts themselves were entirely staged. Likely so he could LARP as “le p3do hunter.”

TOOK ME OOOUUTTT LMAAAAOO

It takes most women a month to a month and a half to learn they are pregnant and her timeline would suggest that she became pregnant the exact day she would physically be able too and magically knew within a span of a few weeks when symptoms usually havent even set in. Also I mean the degree of beatings you'd have to endure to miscarry from THAT early would leave substantial harm that would require medical attention. That and she admits she didnt know for sure and was being starved at the same time, and the whole spouting the vitamin c myth, she clearly either is lying outright to make her story sound more harrowing or she is still this stupid 7 years after she maybe thought it was true at the time. Also her miscarrying at 3 months and not at all having medical complications from not seeing a doctor, after claiming shes had like 2 or 3 miscarriages already IS INSANE. She was not pregnant. I refuse to believe a girl who claimed to miscarry 3 or 4 times, still does not realize miscarrying at 3 months means you need to see a doctor. Miscarrying is not an oops not pregnant anymore ordeal, but she either knows that and is relying on other peoples lack of knowledge. Or she's fucking stupid. I've never met anyone who self diagnosed a miscarriage before, because it's a lie most women of child bearing age can sus out with basic logic. At this rate, girl probably thinks the vagina and urethra are the same goddamn thing.

Seems like a bunch of stupid kids got manipulated and is now airing out their dirty laundry

Miscarriages come with unusually large blood clots on dates outside of your period. Regardless, you can have an abnormal period due to stress factor. I think that she genuinely believes she miscarried, but cinammon and vitamin c definitely does not cause that.

My wife has had tubular pregnancy with twins and 2 other miscarriages that almost stopped us from continuing our endeavor of raising a human that hopefully doesn’t wait to long to turn at a yellow light and causes you to stress honk your horn after a long day . She was in pain both times and in major in lack of a male understanding of the situation ( discomfort ) ? Leading up to each issue she endured as I watched helplessly. There was signs we came to recognize and advice from the doctor about stress anxiety etc . They never in all the wisdom that was bestowed upon us warned us about doing the cinnamon challenge or doing communion with oranges . I think all women and even men that have had a pregnancy in a relationship heard what she said looked at each other and went 🤔 soooooo bullshit rt ?

@@dakotatotten5355 men that have had pregnancies? Dude I understand that you wanna be inclusive but to legitimately think you are the opposite sex is a mental illness and nothing more. Yes they can transition and be accepted by their friends and family but random people shouldn’t be ostracized for stating basic biology. Men don’t get periods men don’t have uterus’s and men can’t get pregnant because they are men and saying that “men” can get pregnant totally discredits what women have to go through and live with in relation to pregnancy. Use your head not your feelings

I hate the way you explained but that sums Spencer's part of the Allegations up pretty well

Exactly.

As a black dude in Indiana, where every other obese white girl has some kinda drama with some bummy black man, I totally agree

It's like one of those weird ass werewolf fictions you get ads about on Facebook outta nowhere

@@steviebeevie It honestly reminds me of those kids in high-school that wear cat-tails/bunny ears and stand extremely close and rawr XD at each other

Honestly that sounds sick af. Sign me up!

@@yoboyfargoth1208 you are in! We are going to meet this weekend for an intense game of capture the flag, you gotta wear crocs tho. 🤣

hell yea

fishtank elimination challenge 😭😭😭

I don't see how forcing a baby elephant to work out is a horrible thing

made me chuckle

omg 🤣 Nicole and Azan/Twilight fanfic! Its brillant I tell you, brillant!

😂😂😂

Several years from now when one of the actual victims gets justice Max will resurface screaming it was all because of his actions l

😂😂😂😂

@@sinjin8576Or he will resurface as one of the predators.

At least there are no "crimes against children" involved!🤔Just weired people who lied and abused each other...🙄

@@sinjin8576yup. great prediction. he’s about as deep as Mt. Everest

>talks about her breaking up with her girlfriend >winks at max.

yeah i was thinking if it's just me that she looks and sounds awfully happy throughout her explanation

@@localonionseller8556I don’t ever recall Spencer ever having a moment of genuine grief with what supposedly happened to her, she describes it like it was just something mildly wacko that happened

I believe this is a phenomenon that psychologists call "Duper's Delight". Duper's Delight is an emotional boost or thrill, that some people get when they successfully cheat or deceive another person or organization. The rush they enjoy can lead them to repeat their dishonesty, even when there's no reward other than the high itself

​@@MarioGoatseand I just thought she was a bad liar and kind of a psycho.

Peak irony if that happened

He won't he is not that petty

​@@jessiescholten9119he probably will claim that this is what he wanted all along. making drama to make the story spread. all according to his plan. something like that. seeing his ego

I don't think he ever really wanted this to happen lol. I'm not even convinced mamamax believes all this shit to be honest with you.

I don't see him doing that. This is exactly what he wanted. A large channel doing the work for him. I can see him being extremely critical of it because it probably makes him look even worse (I haven't watched the whole way through yet) and he might claim this video is victim blaming or defending Camden.

most people don't understand the impact of their actions on others, I hope you find peace some day with what happened to you it is unfortunate that people discredit credible cases like this

@@zogwort1522 Couldn't stop yourself from tipping your fedora?

​@@zogwort1522 You are stating it as if your words are facts and that you're anything more than a pretentious retard oversimplifying a topic he has no understanding of nor has done any research on in depth. I'd be mighty surprised if any of what you said actually came from yourself and was not regurgitated from the various media figures you mindlessly follow, being no different from the people you criticize, smugly trying to move the subject to something you can intellectually jerk yourself off on, knowing that it will only get other idiots to mindlessly agree as any sincerely intelligent person would just not engage. Sadly, I am not intelligent enough for that.

@@zogwort1522 You are stating it as if your words are facts and that you're anything more than a pretentious [Medical term for low IQ that KZfaq filtered my comment over for some reason] oversimplifying a topic he has no understanding of nor has done any research on in depth. I'd be mighty surprised if any of what you said actually came from yourself and was not regurgitated from the various media figures you mindlessly follow, being no different from the people you criticize, smugly trying to move the subject to something you can intellectually jerk yourself off on, knowing that it will only get other idiots to mindlessly agree as any sincerely intelligent person would just not engage. Sadly, I am not intelligent enough for that.

@@zogwort1522 Either KZfaq is filtering the comment I was trying to write over meanie words or the way it updates is garbage as neither of my previous comments show up for me. Either way, you're severely uneducated on the subject yet write as if you are an arbiter of truth, and it's a frustrating display to say the least.

Camdan is OP ngl

He sent the leviathans 💀

the leviathans came 😈😈😈😈

@@victormurori4367this got me laughing my ass off lol - also the fkin leviathans bruh

He's probably laughing his ass off.

That show also had a massive following of fangirls on Tumblr

How did I, a massive Supernatural fan at the time, not make this connection holy shit you're so right

Picked this up in the last video, its only until the half way point Tom points out the DIRECT connection to Supernatural. They're all larping as if the show is real. Ironically further evidence the show should have ended after season 5 -_-;

​@@ThatGuy-ky2yfOne of the recruitment post was made with a picture of Sam and Dean.

@@Primal2229 Yes, by the time I got to the end of the video it became abundantly clear this is a cult where the Supernatural TV show was used as the basis of its mythos. Up to including having a witch whose name sounds strikingly similar to Rowena. I would have been interested in hearing the finer details of this cult's ideology

She's a werewolf vampire bro, her womb is on another level.

she uses the word 'literally' alot too

she also deflects any responsibility by saying "he told me..." he convinced me..."

I watch a lot of police investigations and interrogations. Saying things like "literally" and "and everything" are considered qualifier statements. It's meant to sound more believeable when you are lying and its a red flag when you do it often.

​@@outofpowderRTC and JCS ftw

she just uses words that overexaggerate everything without having to add any substance

Because "adrenaline".

@@flanflan88 The extra miscarriages gave her power.

​@@SuperCosmicMutantSquidlmao

​@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid "I now have the strength of a grown woman and 4 little babies"

Easier to believe she threw a guy one time than consistently worked out

Police: so uh how many times did you get SA’d? Spencer: 1,000,000 Police: Yeah I don’t believe you

She's a chronic liar and it's so obvious 😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯

She lives in Omegaverse fanfic land, where the morbidly obese weirdo with terrible hygiene who pisses in jars gets constantly SA'd because everyone finds her "soooooo irresistible" lmao

@@driadoewould not be surprised if some allegations come out against max himself in a year or so

Did she not have to crap too? Was she doing that in jars? Like it's been a while since I've lived with my parents since going to college but I could even tell by the smallest noises how many people were in the house or who when my neighbors had guests over in the dorms. Camden also had a brother, did he not know that girl was living there?

@@markg2514Dear god, we don't need to think that. Spencer's ramblings is enough.

Did you not know? Vampires lose their sense of smell when they turn. They probably couldn't smell the Day old urine.

They didn't notice "hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds" of persons all of which, presumably, piss in jars.

I could buy her story if it was like a huge house or at the very least 2 story so there's some distance, but this was a single story 3 bedroom house by Spencer's testimony in the Muta convo. There's just 0% chance her telling of the story is completely honest. Something is either being lied about or withheld.

Okay I thought was crazy 😂

@@nassarihyman2864me too 😂

I didn’t catch that! Woulda made this video less agonizing to get through.

Who is wendigoon

Tom was at Wendi's wedding, they're friends.

Werewolf powers kinda gets you somewhere

Yeah I just responded to another comment talking about all that. I put 60 pounds in a weight vest and tried to swing it. Wasn't a very good swing and I'm pretty fit. She don't know how heavy 60 pounds is

@@zogwort1522 that's stupid

its like one of those chinese kungfu movies

He must have grabbed it by the silver part. Vases have those right?

Better call Saul, then.