After she wanted space, I gave it to her because I still wanting to work things out. It was hard and hurtful not hearing from her. Then a funny thing happened after a couple months of no contact, my feelings started to change After reflecting on a lot of things she was doing to me, being disrespectful, always blaming me for everything, etc. I didnt think she would reach out and honestly I was letting my feelings fade away. And didnt want her anymore. So after 5 months out the blue she sent me a Hi text. She said she wanted to talk, I left her on read. I didn't want to communicate with her at all. 2 days after that more text and then blowing up my phone. I will not reply , I think her other supply of attention messed up and thought she had me as a backup. When I'm out , I'm out.

Your videos saved me from driving my car off a cliff. I cant even tell you how much this helped me. Thank you.

7months no contact. To all those going through a break up, keep your heads up. These videos will help you get your ex back or move on. All I know you're gonna feel really good in the long run. It hurts like hell right now, but I promise you'll be fine

I was a dumpee and dumper as well. All stages are very true. Speaking from my experience, being a dumpee is excruciatingly painful in comparison to being a dumper when you get a relief by breaking up, yet later on the dumpee heals and gains more confident to move on and never look back at someone who didn't appreciate them as soon as they realize their own value. When you're being a dumper, chances that down the road you really would start questioning if it was a right or wrong decision are high. Because you feel that you left the one who loved you so much and it's something precious in comparison to the dumpee who feels that their worth was devalued as a result of being abandoned so that there's no longer positive emotions holding them back. Tables are turning. Some may not reach out for many reasons (one of them is a fear of rejection), but trust me, they regret leaving you in some point of their life.

The dumper unknowingly makes the dumpee powerful because now the dumpee makes the choice of accepting the dumper back and the terms of doing so.

Honey, they left you, you leave them back. Dont go after someone who dont value your emotions, honesty, and love. Give them the break as coach Lee always says. Take time off this toxic relationship and bad thoughts. You come first and you matter. You deserve someone who doesn't give up easily on you.

This guy is not about breaking people up but about reconnecting. First time in history of KZfaq therapy did I come across such a person. Who doesn't say ignore them when they reach out.

As someone who has been the dumper before, this is 100% accurate. I was so arrogant and so sure that I could go back whenever I wanted, I tried reaching out six months later and to my surprise that ex had done work while away. They set boundaries to our conversation, they made sure to call me out on my part of things, and ultimately in the moment identified that I was not the person they wanted and to not contact them again. I was so shocked at the time that it took years before I could express how proud I was of them because I didn’t have any intention of changing how I acted and was coming back to see if they were open to working around me instead of with me.

"Anger shows weakness". This man is a beautiful genius.

Dumper: relief Dumpee: shock n hurt Dumper: concern Dumpee: concern Dumper: curiosity Dumpee: confidence Dumper: contact possibilities Dumpee: be welcoming but low key

Yesterday i was watching a random clip from “dr strange” and the ancient one said this: “ you cannot **beat** a river into submission, you have to **surrender** to its current and use its power as your own” I think it also applies to the no contact rule, you cannot force someone into a relationship, but you can use their own silence to your advantage...

im in this position as the dumpee and i swear once you've reached a stage in where you have control after you once thought you had non , it feels fucking amazing

I was dumped once and a dumper on my last 2 relations! It's far more dificult to get over when you dump someone. A lot of doubts will be living in your mind for months and months. You recover faster when you are dumped because it's easy to realize that it was her/his loss and you can go on with your live with a free conscience...

28 days of NC! Sometimes I feel confident and some days I feel like I'm dying inside. It's really hard to forget or move on from the fact that you created so many memories with that person. I felt like I did try my best for my relationship. Even after the breakup I did reach out to her few times, I said sorry and everything I could, and I asked for a chance. She blocked me right after saying "good bye and take care." During my NC, I realized a lot of things, and I'm working on myself.

Nobody keeps track of time better than a dumpee! Lol

"I'll always love you" they can save their breath and not waste my time

When a girl talks to you like she works in HR she's definitely over you

Well, I guess this is what my ex of 6 years tried to do when she broke up with me. I eventually stop bothering her after what became a 2 year situationship and when she came back 2 months later I had another girlfriend that I eventually married and the ex is now bittered and still alone. Lesson: don't play games. We're not mind readers. No one wants a flaky individual.

Yo regardless if ur ex comes back everything’s gonna be ok. I actually got over my break up back in December. I went through the worst type of break up and actually got Straight left for someone else. It broke me and I don’t break easy it takes an astronomical amount to break me. I gave her everything, made so many sacrifices, and took care of her like a wet nurse. But even if y’all go through wut I went through it will I repeat WILL be ok. The best part bout it is that they WILL INEVITABLY look back and see just who they walked out on but by then it’ll be too late for them. Remember this tho, u were ok before the break up and u WILL be ok after. I was my ex’s first boyfriend of four years.

70 days no contact today and feeling stronger each day. Thanks for the videos!!! I listen to them before heading to bed. lol. If she doesnt come back I will be OK :)

'Remember anger shows weakness', this is the phrase that will stay with me for the rest of my life. Lee you're smart, intelligent and speak the realities of life after breakup, you're very good. I enjoy listening to you all day on relationship. God bless you. Keep the good work I've already subscribed.

What a strong speach, coach Lee is a professional. Got a tip, bought the kit a week ago. I would recommend it to everyone. Very well summarized information! I don't really need it, I think, to the point that I gave up and figured that whatever is happening forr a reason. But , I bought it to support coach Lee, and still consider it super helpful and informative! Thank you again ☺️

Coach Lee, This is one of your Best videos ever, because it gives the Person dumped lots of self esteem, and good news.

Hi Lee, I don't know how I missed this one. I learned so much from you that I don't know where to begin. I ended up dating the "wrong guy" for 5 years. I listened to mostly all your videos, and 2 of them really hit me where I couldn't believe it. You told my story. I left him after 5 years of being USED. The worst thing you can do to someone is deliberately hurt someone who loved you deeply. After I left him, I went into Therapy and learned so much. I'm now dating a real nice guy, and he's healthy in mind, thank God. YOU ARE THE BEST!

What's great is that I think no contact, when not done as a power play, game, is clarifying whether you want your ex back or not. Sure, it gives THEM (let's assume they dumped you) time to be curious, confused, etc, but it also gives YOU time to consider...do I want them back? Under what conditions? Is it for my highest good not to be with them after all, despite the initial pain of being "rejected?"

NOTIF SQUAD! Edit: I’ve been single 3 months. NC for 2 months and I feel absolutely amazing. I keep checking in for these videos for comfort these days, as opposed to necessity.

This is the most knowledgeable coach I've ever heard in my lifetime. He speaks right to you, he speaks right through you. it's like he's living your experience.

Its been almost 10 months I been in No Contact - its still hard! Thanks Coach Lee for the encouragement and support! You're the best!

Thank you lee, my ex has gone through two relationships after we ended, I’ve dated no one but feel so much better in myself and have definitely moved on.

This is so damn accurate. What's baffling to me is that you're able to distill objective frames of reference from both peoples viewpoints and weed out the injustice or other feelings that muddy the water of objective understanding. Serious kudos Coach Lee. This strikes me as beyond rare and likely says a great deal about your emotional prowess. The pain and work that went into your channel is impressive in ways that are hard to truly define. I'd love to meet you one day.

One of my favorite videos! Very well explained! My favorite line “ Anger shows weakness” 🙌🙌🙌

If she comes back, I’ll throw $100 in your tip jar. That’s a promise

Over a year ago, I used to watch Coach Lee’s videos on the daily over a bad break-up with someone I knew from work. Covid19 and work-from-home arrangement saved me in a way. Fast forward 1 year later, I’m in a much much much happier place. Met someone so damn amazing during the pandemic (who knows right??) and I have no regrets! I didn’t go into no contact directly after the breakup. I begged and pleaded for about 1.5 months up to a point I felt like I needed a break from all the pleadings, crying & sadness. It’s never too late to do no contact! Things will and do get better with time. Love comes when you learn to love yourself first! Trust me. :)

I like how your video is not just saying "Move on!" It explains how it all works and dignifies the dumpee. Thank you.💕🙏💕

i am 8 minutes into this video and i’m honestly amazed. you do not only have an emotional but logical approach to this, but you validate our feelings. a lot of people don’t do that.

Coach Lee ❤I just have to tell you: You helped me through so much! -Your serious voice that understood our pain was like honey on a wound. It helped me through the sudden discard, just that there was someone out there who understood. You did not joke around and flame, but took our grief seriously. And now that I saw your channel again I suddenly realized that I have made it through even if i did thionk i never will. Thank you Coach Lee. Thank you so much ❤ God bless your soul

Thinking back to an experience many many years ago where I was the dumper and my ex the dumpee, can confirm that the stages of the dumper's experience as outlined in this video are all true... Although back then I was not self aware enough to grasp these psychological concepts that were happening within me. My dumpee handled it like a damn ninja with a high degree of self control, exactly as Coach Lee is prescribing in this video, and I went through the experience of the tables turning and it was an excruciatingly painful experience at the time. I've long since healed from it after he moved on and chose someone better for him, and now I am able to look back on the experience as a priceless learning opportunity! I wish everyone the best at toppling their "dictator" by instigating silent coup!

Thank you so much. Your videos have helped me to be strong through my break up. I'm a stronger better person because of them. Blessings in abundance to you Coach Lee.

I’ve been binge watching all week, thank you Coach Lee for helping me get through a tough week✨

I wish I had a coach like this much earlier in life. I love you, Lee!

after searching for a week in order to move on and watching lot of videos ,your video comes out of the blue and man this is mind blowing , you describe literally what is happening and helped me to gain a self confidence for me again even though idk if she'll get back to me again or not but now iam feeling better and gained so much control for myself . thanks again

Thanks, you’re that calm, reassuring voice, in a time of stress and panic.

Personal story: my ex and I dated for 8-9 months and he never reached out during no contact of almost 2 years. I lost feelings for him after doing no contact for six months and life was good. No all exes reach out. After 2 years, I moved to a new city, felt lonely and messaged him. He was very receptive and even decided to meet me on a business trip but said he lost all romantic feelings for me and only wanted “fun time” with me. Of course I turned it down. After that I realised the person I’ve been missing was all fantasy. The real person was kinda sh*t. Use no contact to heal. Not all losses are real losses.

I find myself coming back to coach Lee's videos quite a bit. Reading the comments is also helpful because it's our own support group family. As low as I'm still feeling, i can't imagine without this advice. I do wish to have him back in my life. He was good to me and we had something special so I thought. He asked for a break end of June. I begged and pleaded about once a week for 2 months😔 He never replied so I went no contact end of Aug. It's been 4 months apart and no contact for 2 months. It's a daily struggle for me, especially when his sister told me soon after he left that he still loves me. I feel clueless, dumbfounded, and heartbroken. I've had my fair share of boyfriends and one marriage . He was different than the others. I'll be 40 next summer and I pray for some major changes before then. Love to you all still struggling❤💖💜

Coach Lee , You are right on the money! I’m so glad I found you because I’ve been so confused and lost and did not know which way to turn. I have read and watched other sites but I did not get the knowledge that I received from you! I love him and I can follow your guidance. Thank you so very much because now I have some clarity of it all, and what I have been going through is exactly what you have described! Thank you again so very much!

One thing on getting answers: I recently did just that after the relationship ended 5 years ago after receiving little to no closure. It took that long to be able to get honest communication from my ex. He feels remorseful that much I know but we’ve definitely moved on. It was still healing to be able to understand and get those answers and finally heard him say it wasn’t all on me and that he made his mistakes too.

This is a good one to go back to. It shows that it affects both parties, not just the other. It also helps coming back to see where we were, where we are now, and where we will be later. It's just a matter of patience on the dumpee's end and all shall fall into place naturally.

It has been about 4-5 months for me and I can fully heartily say I am happier. I used to watch your videos numerous times throughout the day to help me in the beginning and understanding ways to try to get my ex back. Now I just watch them to help clear my head whenever the thought of her gets too much for me. I've noticed I'm more confident and outgoing and not to mention more motivated than ever by going to the gym and getting my work done. Thank you Coach Lee for everything you've done not just for me but for everyone else.

After listening to Coach Lee, I’m starting to feel a lot better about myself and the situation. I will admit it was hard at first because the breakup caught me off guard. I feel like my ex has been communicating with an ex who cheated on her. I know for a fact they’ve had conversations, but she says it was nothing (right).

Just got broken up with after a 7 year relationship. 1 month later she’s out at clubs dancing and making out with lames. These woman change once they are “FREE” especially if they are influenced by single friends or family members. If you have a gut feeling about her not responding to you and etc… trust your gut feeling. Definitely ain’t worth my energy anymore. Moving on with my life. She will realize eventually she fucked up.

I watched all the vidoes of coach lee ...whenever i felt weak and verg of breaking no contact and watched his videos to help me stay strong.... one month of no contact and one day i get phone of call from my ex. 😀 but this whole process has made me stronger person and able to realise my self value.... never let anyone make u feel less worthy... thanks coach lee for making me understand my inner strengths. 😇😇😇

this guy is a genius. LISTEN to his advice, and you WILL see results... even if it takes longer than you want/expect...nothing worth getting comes easy... his steps are PROVEN. Its not a genie in a bottle exactly, but solid relationship counseling is probably the best thing you can hope for when your forever person isn't treating you with the respect you deserve.

My heart is literally shattered, such a perfect relationship just came to an end. I was doing no contact. It woks!!! I screwed up & talked to him, that screwed it up, I should’ve continued no contact. Now I have to start over. In the mean time, I’m going to make my self have a blast & quit crying. Thank you Lee, appreciate you.

My ex started treating me poorly during our relationship, she did a lot to me and I overreacted about the things she did. She blamed me for how I reacted instead of looking at what she was doing. I still was willing to work things out and she left, she wanted to be friends still and I told her that I am not willing to do that. I cut off contact and I am not looking back I did the best I could and it made me realize I needed to mature in the aspect of when things go downhill to talk respectfully instead of using my emotions. Breakups are a good thing sometimes because it makes you realize what you can work on for yourself

coach lee‘s free uploads helped me a lot already. bought the kit to support him so that he can continue with his you tube uploads. the kit is great by the way :)

Thank you, coach Lee.... You're advice is helping me deal with this breakup....

Being in two months of NC I feel good he tried coming back I told him Big No I know my worth I thought I can’t do it but I pushed myself. I cried but I said no begging , no calling and am good now thanks couch Lee 🙏

I met my ex for a coffee and she pushed her new boyfriend into the conversation. I wasn't angry, just upset. I felt like she wanted to see my reaction. We said farewell on good grounds. Since then she has rang me about a tyre compressor. I'm broken hearted but stoical about the situation, quite happy to move forward (apart from thinking about her at every moment). She has been swayed by others so much that I feel I can't actually reason with her. Your advice is the most understandable advice I have ever heard. You are a legend.

Lot of people come here saying you should move on etc,If you could that easily you wouldn’t be here watching. Coach Lee 100%

She dumped me 3 years back and go no contact then now she said, I was testing you lol...How sweet excuse she made up Just to make me Chase again.

I keep coming back to you. 3 times in the past 3 years. I benefit from your videos.

The ABSOLUTE BEST on KZfaq

It’s so heart warming and reliving hearing you speak. Just like you are God sent. Keep this up. You’re a healer

As the dumper, I had to go no contact. He had a lot of problems: addiction, very poor mental health he wouldn’t address, I supported him while receiving crumbs in return. I couldn’t stay with someone who was so broken that he was dragging me down. I felt horrible for dumping him but the relationship was absolutely destroying me. Toxic relationships are more common than you think

Lee, you are such a wonderful person. Keep it up bro, looking forward for more videos ! and guess what, your videos are life lessons whether she gets back or not..I seriously do not feel any hard against that, I totally forgave her and moved on in my life. Life is cool and full of amazing things ! If she comes back, I will welcome back her in a careful manner because I want to protect myself from slipping back into a mess. She should show that she has changed as well !

My husband left me 5 months ago. I’ve gone through so many emotions from desperation to moving on. I’ve had so much guilt about what I have done wrong but you need to go through those stages and sit in that icky emotions to move through them. I can say this month I’m honestly feeling free and looking at it as a relief. I still feel anger but I have made an oath to be respectful as I can around him. This attitude has helped me realize this is truly his loss, not mine. I wish him peace.

Wow. I feel so much better after watching this video. Out of all the breakup/no contact videos I've seen lately, this is the best one for its in depth and reasonable explanations. So glad i clicked. I will be watching many more, so thank you for your wisdom.

This guy is awesome!!!! Very helpful, compassionate and knowledgeable!!! Thanks coach Lee!!!

Coach Lee videos have been very helpful to me...just dealing with the anxiety of the break-up with my boyfriend of 2 years due to lack of movement in a complex divorce situation and I was frustrated. I initially did the breaking-up but was sorry the next day and my boyfriend said no you can't keep doing this breaking up as it is was too hard on him and he said we needed to take a break for about month. I sense he may be doing the no contact rule on me. However, I have apologized for the way I ended it. I didn't come across these videos until it was a little late. 4 days after break-up I texted him with a kind message reminding him that I loved him and missed him. No response at all. 10 days after that I called him with a message to lay out my feelings....he was very frustrated by talking to me ....he said he didn't want to work on this anymore and that we just weren't compatible and I was rigid on his marriage situation. I called one more time to wish him a happy father's day which he said thank you but was very cold. So now I am 1 week from my last contact. I just can't believe how heart broken I am.

Your videos makes me feel much better during this time of pain. been watching you everyday for a week.. this helps alot.🙏 Thank You so Much!!

I think I love u Coach Lee lol- I've watched a lot of these in my no contact period since I got dumped 6weeks ago and yours have been the most concise, helpful and insightful advice out there. You have that trustworthy voice/demeanor! My anxiety somewhat subsides when I listen to u:) THANK UUUUUUUU

To be honest 2020 was the most eventful year of my life. I was dumped 2 times by my ex and on December I lost my mom and grandmother aswell. So at the moment I don't even know what I am feeling...I don't evem know about what I should be sad about but happiness and motivation are are like a far away dream 😢

This helps deal with the pain I sometimes feel. I have to remember what I offered and gave. Im learning my worth again after 2 months NC. In the end, I don't have to live with the regret because the decision was made for me. I cant imagine being the one to end something good and realize it was a mistake. Its way easier to move on as the dumpee

I'm so grateful for your videos! I've been listening religiously. Since my breakup 2 weeks ago this has been a lifeline for me.

This video is gold.I appreciate you so much Coach Lee. This breakdown is super needed. Gratitude.

35 days of NC for me...I'm proud of myself because I realised that I'm strong enough to do it and I honestly find happiness in that revelation. Sometimes I'm feeling good, sometimes not that good, but not as bad as I felt at the beginning. Not looking into her IG account nor her photos and stories. I even stopped posting anything so I'm applying the "radio silence". Basically I dissapeared like a ghost in the wind. My goal is to heal and be stronger than I was before, and that's a greater goal for me than to reach out to her.

Coach Lee, Thank you for dedicating your life to selflessly helping people struggling with this most difficult and painful time and giving them and me the tools to be positive and find a way forward, hopefully with restoring our relationships.

I’ve been waiting for a new video. This topic was just what I wanted! Thank you Coach Lee!

This is one of Coach Lee's best videos

Hey, I honestly want to thank you. These videos have been helping me out a lot. Before watching these videos I just had a sickish feeling and didn't want to eat or drink anything, then after watching these the feeling is just gone and I'm wanting to eat and drink again, yesterday I tried talking to my ex before I found these videos but now I kind of regret doing that! And to be honest I do want my ex back. But I'm not going to get my hopes up or think about it to much. It just depends if we can both change for the better and become a better match 🙂

Ty for having this. i also believe that when you cant stop thinking of someone constantly it is them thinking about you. 30 years later. i just like to watch these videos, my life has waayyy moved on and his tooo. it is said, god doesnt give u more than you can handle, i care to differ.

Forget my ex, drop the skin care routine coach Lee 😂😂😂😂

He is emphatic,knowledgeable,kind and very intuitive, You are amazing coach Lee

Honestly without you Coach Lee, had I not found your channel I think I would still be reaching out to him, texting him, and I had nooo idea that doing that would push him away. It’s been almost five weeks no contact now. At first I was watching these videos multiple times a day to stay strong in no contact. Then as time went by I didn’t have the urge to message him at all, it was routine not to. It’s helped me so much, I’ve really used this time to focus on myself, my relationships with friends and family, working out, reading, saying yes to new opportunities and filling my days with things that make me feel good. And I feel better about myself. The first week after it ended I was a mess, and felt so weak and sad. Now I feel strong and happy. We are meeting this weekend! Wish me luck 😊

We need a video about( don't try, just let go/ signs that you should move on)

Hey Coach Lee, I would like to appreciate your videos and your point of view. It's been 3 weeks since I was dumped after nearly 2 year long relationship (you know first love) and I must admit that at the beginning I've fallen a bit into rabbit hole of a huge amount of breakup blogs, coaches and so on. Now I've started to gain a different perspective and started to appreciate myself and the world around me. I've come to realization that although there were surely some mistakes from my side, at the end of the day she couldn't appreciate me for who I was, lost my identity to some degree and generally put too much effort into the relationship without getting things back. Maybe I've stopped even pushing my limits and seeing other goals in life than prospering relationship. I am young and still learning how to be better man but now I'm pretty sure that now at least I know how to love a woman (or girl in my case) and I am grateful for this experience. Here and there comes a time when I find myself overanalyzing things and remembering only the good things and then your videos provide some balance into my thoughts. Although some might say that what you are saying here isn't helpful because you cling to the past and are stuck waiting, you provide some warm supportive words which are really uplifting and motivational. Sometimes listening to that I find myself as if I was again a small kid learning the reality of the life around me and coming to some reason that not all things are granted. And for that I thank you. I'm kind of starting to be independent of the result - if she wants to get back, I might. I might as well meet a better more suitable girl. I might as well wait long years before I find again someone I loved as much as her. But all of this is happening for some reason. As my brother told me "Amor Fati" or in other words "Love your destiny". For everyone reading this - it sucks, but this at the end of the day makes us who we are supposed to be. Don't break no contact. Learn how to live and love your life again even without them. It's the greatest gift for both of you. You will find someone else. But most importantly you will find yourself.

This hit me on a different level and it hurts to even think about it.

It feels like he can read my mind. I love hearing him talk

Excellent material to mentally go through again a couple of times! Thank you sooo much coach Lee!

This hurt soo bad , break up hurt so bad , especially the person u hv pictured your future with . I am literally going through this stage . And I pray for strength

These videos are SO HELPFUL. Thank you, Coach Lee!

Coach Lee.... your wise words are what helped me through the hard weeks after being broken up with with a txt.....gone immediately NC and listening to what Coach Lee repeated time after time......now I want to say to everyone who's here - this is the best advice! I now feel so much stronger! Even if he reached out I will not look back! Take your time and know that every day you will feel stronger and then one day you might even wonder why you spent time with your x..... Thank you Coach Lee !!!

Thank you for these videos, they do help alleviate the pain and bring hope back. Looking forward to the anxiety series as well! An idea for another video: how to behave when your boyfriend asks to be left alone? Of course you want to give him space and work on yourself in the meantime, but should you reach out after a while? Should you do radio silence and always wait for him to reach out? Should you be the one breaking up once some weeks have passed? In some ways it's even more difficult than a breakup, as you're in this limbo and don't know what rules to apply, if you should check in, talk about it after some time, be distant or close when he reaches out, deal with hot and cold behavior... you know basically the things you talk about, but applied to a slightly different situation, the dreaded break.

Great video again Lee! 💞 I’m wondering what happened yesterday. My husband who dumped me and now lives with his mom since December first asked my 19 year old daughter if he could come over for coffee. She was thrilled, she hadn’t seen him since January 26. He showed up 30 minutes late, didn’t drink anything, searched the house for some documents, asked how she was doing, how I was doing, if I still cause drama and told her he is investigating a divorce but 7000 euro is too expensive. After 20 minutes he left again leaving my daughter heart broken. She told me she didn’t recognize him, he wasn’t happy, he was neutral and she didn’t feel any emotional bond, no love... midlife crisis also crosses my mind. What to think of this behavior? I do smart contact and I’m so puzzled. Thanks in advance 😊

Emotional attraction - I’ve never heard of this concept, but it makes complete sense.

March 17th 2021 was the last time we spoke, been no contact and moved on w/ my life, feel so much better, it’s a long journey but it’s worth it. Keep positive and keep pushing!!

Your videos help me so much to get me though this heartbreak …. It’s been 3 weeks and I’m starting to feel better… and stronger …. Thank you 🙏 ❤

Thank God for Coach Lee.

Hey, Coach Lee...... Just wanted to tell you that when I watched your video it actually felt like you were talking to "me" and my situation.....appreciate you. Thanks.

I had been turning your videos and listening them when she broke up 2 years ago. I changed. Really changed. She got back 2 months later. But as you say, they may get away again. She is in depression because her Grandmother passed away 9 months ago. She grieves. And war. We are from Ukrain, Kryvyi Rih. She was raised in a family of a gangster and 'princess', who neglected the first child. I wanted to ease her life, but failed. No contact works and I know it. Coach Lee is a guru in this industry! Thank you! I wish it worked for the second time for everyone and we all are healed from insults and traumas.