I have an XC it fricking amazing everywhere. Blast along an open highway, drop into backlanes and gravel tracks then onto some forest tracks and once again blast it back to a ton all in the same day with a huge smile on my face.

You brought an expert, I tought he would elaborate more on his review....I bet he had lots more toughts.

Cheers mates, that "review" was utterly useless :). Thankfully, there are other blokes posting their own comparisons on the tube.

anyone else notice during the introduction to the second rider, after each sentence a flicker which when paused in slow motion said triumph? haha love the xc !

That Triumph Triple sound just overpowers the silent Bimmer... and I love it :)

I have the F650 GS which I use for touring and a bit of forest roads. It gets over 60 to the gallon and on a recent run in the scottish borders, taking my time and enjoying the scenary rather than seeing it flash by as a blur it got nigh on 70 mpg!

At first I thought there were two Beemers sitting next to each other, then I realised the red one was the Triumph. Maybe the designers meet up for drinks every so often.

Love the fact you have stepped up production values...maybe time for you guys to step it up to a bike version of Top Gear! Dont like the flash cuts too much... its like subliminal messaging! Greta vids though, thank you.

Wonderful work, and you know I don't go cheap on compliments! ;)

I´d love to go to the Simon Pavey Offroad Skills Course! Heard and seen so much ( Race To Dakar, Long Way Round) but never had the chance to visit.

*rolleyes* "blabla he is very good of offroad." :D made my day

What are those subliminal images popping up between cuts?

crazy jump! and i think they are both great bikes! the triumph looks cooler, don't like the fact that the pilions footpegs are weld to the steel frame - if you drop the bike - what does that mean for the frame if it falls on the peg?

Wow, wondered what big Trev was up to these days. Was just browsing through my old PB mags circa 2000 or thereabouts. That bloke must have ridden some bikes in his time. I think he could've done this vid on his own.

Yah one of these days, but for now I have a 60D I am working on some L glass as well.

@falapedro I think that is the plan, keep the information in MCN itself with the videos as mere tasters.

Wtf is that flashing. Gonna give me a fit

I personally test rode both bikes, they are both very exceptional bikes, it all comes down to personal preference, triumph for me was better on the road and feels planted to the road. where as BMW felt very light on the front wheel, probably due the the fuel tank not being all in the front of the bike but more under the seat for weight distribution, but on the other hand BMW off road almost makes you feel like you riding a MX bike XD, love that feeling. so yeah pro's and cons for each i guess.

Worst review ever! Where are the bikes?

The BMW is extremely comfortable. Not a fan at all of the BMW's but I have to had it too them on this respect. After a long test ride it was the most comfortable seat I've ever been on. Cant understand why MCN would say otherwise.

Considering that the Triumph is less expensive, would you say that it is comparatively the better value than the BMW?

the most stressfull review yet never again . had to turn it off before i went mad

Did you get that BMW from the pidcock garage in Long Eaton? If so, I sat on it yesterday! It explains why it was covered in mud :)

The BMW is lower in power, yet the tiger is higher in torque. Was the lower torque on the tiger ever an issue? No2, did you compare vibration? I'm a 800gs owner but a little inclined to the 3 cyl.

@ptso34 did you ride them both? dont think so...

This is typical of MCN reviews: a few blokes riding around on the bikes and negligible reviewing. I used to think the reviewers were lazy but it's probably more to do with their need to sell content in the MCN rag rather than give to much away for free on youtube. Result? they shoot themselves in the foot as it all comes across very poorly when compared to some of the American youtube reviews (e.g. MotoUSA - much more thorough and generally better)

I read that f 800 xc is making 41 mpg urban & staggering 63 mpg motorway!!!

To me, i go want more on road, what Bike? The problem i have 170 cm... Thanks

Why the subliminal flashes of the triumph tiger? Thought I was getting a migrane. lol

Oh yes, ask an instructor from the BMW off road school for his verdict on the Bikes Yes, that's right it's NOT the Simon Pavey off road school (there's no such thing), it's the BMW off Road Scool

@dergelbevonderelbe Do it. The instructors are world class riders, a great laugh and extremely competent teachers.

You drove all the way to Wales to say "Yeah, it's alright". Was it worth it?

This BMW is not a boxer, it is a vertical parallel twin.

@dergelbevonderelbe Do it. It is absolutely superb. The instructors are world class riders, nice people, a good laugh and extremely competent teachers.

@ptso34 I'm a BMW fan, but the TRiumph is def NOT a replica. It, like all their bikes, has it's own charms, especially that 3 cylinder motor

Well if that is what a accomplished champion can do with a 800 so called dual purpose motorcycle( 2:26). The term" Lead Balloon" comes to mind.

Why is the GS's brake light flickering like that?

I want your job, matey!!

I like F800GS.

so is jp freelance now or something

@GSPilot4 why is it no comparison for you? theres too little arguments in your comment

800cc on dirt???? arent they a bit heavy for that?

F800XC?? That some sort of BMW/Triumph love child?

Triumph Tiger 800 XC is the best!!

With a title like "Triumph Tiger 800XC vs BMW F800GS ", I expected more of an in-depth comparison of these two motorcycles. While watching the video I was surprised when the elderly MCN reporter said "Well, to sum up ...". "Sum up!!!", where is the comparison but a few comments? Another very disappointing MCN video. However, I did like the image of the tiger jumping well above the head of the BMW rider as if to indicate the rise of a new breed of mid-size adventure motorcycles :)

CAN YOU STOP PUTTING THIS IMAGES IN ONE FRAME FROM TIME TO TIME?!

@motorcyclenewsdotcom €2,800 though - fuck me. Wouldn't wanna lose or damage that baby ;)

Very funny!

I do mine myself.. and do a better job!

I bought the new XCx. I can only compare against the BMW based on examining them in the showroom. The BMW has a separate bolt-on rear sub-frame, which they did solely to cut costs. I find that unacceptable, since they want top dollar for the machine. Everything about the Triumph seems higher quality. Not that the BMW is "junk". It just doesn't seem in any way special, and I don't understand how they justify the cost. The Triumph is better equipped, for about the same price. Obviously a better value. The Triumph comes with cruise control. Once you've ridden behind cruise control, on a bike, you won't accept anything less. It's an absolute revelation. The BMW used to have the edge in off road performance, according to what I read, with the Tiger considered the superior road bike. But the XCx has a high end WP suspension now. The same guys who make KTM so good off road. Advantage Triumph. Again, I can't speak to personally comparing them off road, and I'm a novice anyway so I would be of no use as a reviewer, but all I can say is the XCx works GREAT as far as I can tell. No complaints. It's also slightly lighter than the BMW. I DO have 6000 miles worth of experience with the same engine and gearbox that the BMW GS has. I came from an F800 GT sport-tourer. I can say from personal experience that there is simply no comparison between the BMW and the Triumph motors. The Triumph Triple is in a whole other class entirely. Nobody talks about the F-bike's motor. It does the job. That's the most you can say for it. It doesn't sound great. It vibrates. Not a bad motor at all, but nothing you'd ever brag about. "Like a loyal but slightly dopey dog", said one reviewer. The Hinkley Triple, on the other hand, is BRILLIANT. Worth the price of admission all by itself. I can't rave about it enough. The sound, the feel, the power deliver.....everything. Wonderful! As others have pointed out, the Triumph's electronics are a bit odd to figure out, and it's annoying that it automatically reverts to to "road" mode every time you re-start the motor. But once you get the modes set up the way you like you're never going to mess with them again, aside from pushing a single selector button, so I'd say the complaints are really unfounded. I'll leave it to others to debate the finer details of off road performance. From what I've read the XCx is VERY capable. BMW should be afraid. Very afraid. It's certainly more capable than I'll ever need. All in all, a lovely bike. Highly recommended. Even the FUEL ECONOMY is great! Amazingly so.

subliminal messages wow.

the only thing you ask your expert is: "is the Triumph capable"? Common man, what kind of question is that? I expected a lot more info from him and I am pretty sure that he had a lot more to give after being on those bikes for 2 days and lots and lots of miles... A good uportunity wasted. Shame.

hehe Triumph always wins in your tests. Even when the expert says bmw

Dry toast is more exiting than this guy 😅

yep ! predictable... the non expert just keeps talking and the expert gets thee chop and basically he is saying the BMW is a superior machine and the no expert is not. Time to stop prescribing to MCN en mass, until they get the message I think

Wtf is wrong with you people, I can go from 0-potato therefore I'm the obvious fridge

Once you ride the BMW you will realize how boring the motor is and really inst anything special.... Seriously it's flat and has no real power and feels like a john deer tractor. I have test rode the Tiger 800XC and that is freaking blast to ride with great power and motor that has some personality. BOTH NEED ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION

mmmmmm. maybe in the future well be able to "virtually ride" these by plugging our brains in. ... i would even settle for plugging my nose in to be able to smell all these new bikes. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Worthless review

Seriously. You MCN guys get some great ideas but absolutely waste the opportunity to get the comparisons done proper. This, like many of your other videos, leaves one no better coming away, and only worse for the wasted time. Shameful.

Waist? A waste reading your comment!

You obviously own a BMW..... sure its a wast of time if you the one that has a biased opinion??

A high percentage of parts of Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and BMW etc are made in China. China doesn't mean 'fragile', that's just pots LOL!

If you like a whiny engine get the triumph.

Triumph was a German Jew who came to GB no?

have not watched this video yet but i predict its going to be extremely biased to the triumph... waist of 3 mins

Triumph will never be as good as BMW. Good thing that they try - it's always good for the others to have some competition so they would have to improve their products. The next thing is that Triumph is just really, really ugly, while the GS is just a bit ugly.