I always ask that! Even people in relationships where the person says their partner watches them at work or on an entire shift. All I hear is that the stalker is an unemployed weirdo. You can’t stalk and be a productive adult at the same time.

Wrong, you just need to stalk more efficiently😎

They all live in democratic city's where the government supports unemployed with unlimited resources

Part-time stalkers man, they don't even get health or dental insurance.

I think about this all the time

That's absolutely beautiful. I can't even imagine how weird it all must feel for you. She sounds like she was a great person honestly, I'm sorry you had to experience that.

A living flower memorial is such a lovely way to honour her.

... umm rent her apartment out? It sounds like a weird attachment of yours to accept loss of money and to leave a unit abandoned because of the memory of a young woman you never knew personally.

@@user-us9xg3tw2x I have a vacant that I use for a "show unit" and lease signings and things anyway so I will rent out my old "office" unit and just make her old one my new one. Besides being hard to rent out a unit like that because you have to tell people what happened, I had a lady that lived next door who moved because she said she was hearing bumps in the night. So, for me, it just makes more financial sense to move my office and be able to show an apartment that is furnished, do office work, paperwork, etc in.

​@@user-us9xg3tw2xThey obviously knew her and know her parents. Worry about your own wallet.

I personally think there should be a registry for stalkers as well

It's so weird. The US will dole out punishments for crimes that are like 150 years. You'd be shocked to see how pathetic some other countries punishments are for things like murder. As in murderers can walk out in a few years. So you have all this and suddenly you're like...stalking...ah that's a misdemeanor. What? Like that first one, he's some creepy Indian who put a tracking device on an American woman's car. Why isn't he kicked out of your country?

​@@peytonkirk106that and higher charges

So many women have been murdered by creepy men because the stalking wasn't taken seriously.

Lol so should the laws abt divorce, and all these money hungry succubus’s but nobody cares

and a domestic violence registry!

@@elliedegroft5117 We don’t even talk about domestic violence anymore, athletes get away with it a lot.

@@elliedegroft5117100000%

Damn I never thought of that

@@elliedegroft5117i absolutely second this

Tell me about it. Plus, calling her while he's speaking with the police. Who does that? If she's sleeping with someone or hanging out with anyone. (Hotel) It's her business and not his. This is literally one of the worst things I have seen. Putting a damn tracker on her car.

He was sooo creepy

​@@LouiseHultcrantz she was a prostitute

Yea I don’t think we got the entire story. If this dude was so creepy, and they had no relations, why would she resume communications? She needs to stop talking to these kinds of people lmao. Hopefully she learned a valuable lesson.

I just watched going, where's the camera, the cops are being punked and then my chin was on the floor when it was real, how can he be real, he thought putting a tracker on her car was no problem !?!? 😮😮 😮😮

They believe what they want to believe and you can't tell them otherwise.

@@moldevx64Don’t make excuses for these fuckers.

yeah, a week in jail??? The law really doesn't care about women's safety.. These people needs to be removed from society. Since the law doesn't care, at least shaming them online & hope the next would-be victim sees this video.

they are very dangerous

I feel like it only leads to murder from jealousy of these freaks

IMO it's because back in the day a stalker had to do things in public while people interacted. Think to even the late 1800s where it was mostly foot traffic, everyone knew each other and outsiders were scrutinized, you kept you and yours accountable. These days of high tech, isolated conditions, cars, and a lack of a cultural moral center? Stalking is far more than a peeping Tom that your neighbor's dad can beat out back.

​@Undomaranel murder and domestic violence were far MORE common in the 1800's, but without forensic science, killers, stalkers and abusers got away with it more.

I’m doing a course about domestic abuse and learnt that stalking is a huge indicator of murder of the victim.

@@Undomaranelit was legal to beat your wife before 10 pm in the UK in Victorian times. You weren’t allowed to do it after 10pm because it would disturb the neighbours.

@@cl5470 Not just a lack of forensic science, cultural attitudes of the time towards gender were probably the biggest culprit in letting the guilty go unpunished.

Considering the mental health consequences this could have on the victim, the punishment should be much more severe.

They always escalate, we know this and the courts still don’t do their job! Crime is only growing in the last few years, weak judges just let them out with no real consequences. We must demand better of our leaders and vote for the candidates who are tough on crime, and big on safety!

For real. Theres a lot of stalking incidents that lead to the stalker taking the victims life from getting slaps on the wrist and not taking it seriously to stop.

@@FlawlessImperfectionBeauty The courts don't set penalties for crimes; that is the job of the State/Federal legislators. If you want the punishments changed, lobby your State/Federal legislators to do so.

Do you think stalking should carry with it a prison sentence of more than a year?

Agreed 💯 One week in jail..? The law doesn't care about women's safety; these people needs to be removed from society. At least shame them online & hope the next would-be victim sees this video.

what if i want to make sure the girl im following at 3 am on a dark alleyway is safe

I agree. Stalking leads to violence and more. Lawmakers need to read the news properly

Yep, because these sickos end up hurting or killing someone

@@player70477 those fkn jokes arent even funny💀 its little boy humor

yeah victim blaming is a real cool thing to do! extra humanity points for you @@Nick_Feger

@@Nick_Feger OH, I just love your comment! It's so stupid!

Sorry you went through that!

Jesus, I’m sorry you had to go though that dude. Hope you’re doing ok

I had a guy make different instagram accounts to compliment my art and stuff, but it was a guise to talk to me. Creepy af.

I can tell you from personal experience as a woman. Just try to get a male cop take a statement and follow up on stalking. The stalker just says your his girlfriend or an "crazy ex". My coffee was drugged and i was raped and even then no police officer would take a statement at the police dept. It's still not considered much of a crime.

@@nikkicole3331 If there was evidence, it would have been followed up. Don't make up stories.

​@@scheezy wow, you're trash

How do other animals rape and take whatever they want from one another? It's just natural behavior really. Luckily we have managed to create a society and laws that deter most people from doing this. But at the end of the day some humans will succumb to their basic instincts.

It could help them generate "chance meetings" in supermarkets etc etc. This could help them keep up contact enough to spark a relationship.

@@moldevx64 Thanks for sharing man. Glad you never did anything crazy.

​@@moldevx64 I admire people who can go down such destructive roads and come out the other side wiser and more empathetic.

It is completely out of their control. It’s a compulsion. They need years of therapy and even then, it’s a tough one to fix. Not based on reality at all.

It is complicated in mist cases because you have NO right tobprivacy at all if in public so even things like filming or photographs are 100% legal.

​​@@Gl-my8fw​ You missed the point entirely mate. Also a taking a picture of someone in public is not equitable to placing a tracking device on their car without permission. 🤦

it totally ruins your life yes & many of them invite other stalkers of the same type to stalk you so then you are swamped with like dozens of sex pervert stalkers breaking the law to obsess over you & criminally ruin your life I was raped & stalked by a child rapist ever since I was 14 & it has been non stop abuse spouting from this cop hating low iq criminal flabby piece of shit ever since he needs to be locked up he is a Nassar clone he kidnapped & raped me when I was half dead from being hit by a car

It's probably a misdemeanour because usually the victim is a woman and women have historically been under-protected when it comes to male violence.

@@Manny-zk4xewell yeah he got a felony for placing the tracking device

That’s wild!!! glad to see you are doing okay 👌

The heck is wrong with people. I’m so sorry that happened to you and I hope you’re doing much better now. Glad that you got a restraining order.

Glad you’re okay!

I am so sorry that you had to go through that

How awful for you. My heart goes out to you and your family. You've done nothing to deserve this and it sounds like you have PTSD as a result of the terrible trauma. There's an injection called a sub ganglion block. It's been used for over a century for veterans with certain pain conditions but a side effect of it is to calm the brain after trauma. I got it for my nephew (cptsd) and he's much improved. He says he can think about and work through his trauma as he's no longer in a state of dread. I'm in the UK and it's only available privately here but it's worth every penny. I wish you well. Remember, you're NOT a victim. You're a survivor.

I am so sorry this happened to you. 😢

Totally agree though I don't think the first woman was trying to be friends with him. I think 'friend' was her attempting to neutralise his crazy arsed stalking. Unsuccessfully of course.

Yeah restraining order and remain vigilant you wouldn't know when the stalker fully loses his/her marbles and tries to abduct, abuse or k*ll

​@@jessISaRicePrincessyep although restraining order can be useless, because it's just a paper after all

Women can’t be friends with men. Ever.

Stalkers never mean anything good towards the victim. If you try to be friends with them, they will escalate and do things that hurt you. It's mental illness obsession.

How creepy. You became a prisoner. You are lucky to be alive. I feel for you.

How did this ended?

@@COVID-1901 To make a very long story short, I broke my lease and moved. He would threaten to off himself any time I didn't do or say what he said (like when he wanted me to tell him I loved him), and I felt immense guilt on top of everything else going on. My wonderful, wise sister pointed out that even if he did, it wasn't my fault; it was him making a choice. That advice helped me make a quick, clean break without worrying about what he might do. Got a new phone number, new email (I backed up the old one in case I needed proof, but I shut it down so he couldn't contact me anymore), and quit my job. I don't know if he watched the new apartment tenants until he realized I wasn't coming back, but I guess the new place was out of the scope of his watch and he couldn't find me after that. In one of life's little "ironies," I did have a close encounter with him about ten years later, although he never knew: My husband ended up in a group with him on an online game. They were chatting over voice coms and my husband's sound was coming through his speakers instead of his headphones. The guy talked, and my husband asked me what was wrong (later told me my face drained of all color when I heard his voice). I told him "I know who he is, that's the guy that stalked me." My husband asked me if I wanted him to say something and I said hell no, I got away, hopefully, he's forgotten about me now and I want to stay that way. I made sure to steer well clear of the microphone so it wouldn't accidentally pick up my voice, and the guy was never the wiser.

Oh my gods i hope its gonna get better and the nightmares will go away so you can forget about him and live peacefuly What a crazy peace of garbage Wow He should be in prison and mental hospital

@@crazynedry5085 Thank you, I appreciate it.

Yes she is seeing, dating, sleeping and talking to many men other than you. If she TROs you or presses charges, you go ahead and do the same for her peeping tom ass.

If he had denied everything and they were not able to find the tracker, things would have been very different in that case.

In my case I haven't been able to arrest her. She strikes whenever I feel comfortable or start dating anyone. She claims I SA'd her and that ends my relationships. 22 years of this idiocy. I'm tired and on the verge of suicide. Maybe that's what she's pursuing.

@@nicandromartinezsotelo3300 So, you’ve like gotten restraining orders and taken her to court and everything?

I attempted to file a complaint and gave the detectives all my social media accounts and my phone including my WhatsApp, texts and calls. Police down here won't even try to intervene or allow experts to give you a chance to surrender evidence. You have to pay experts to do the digging into the records and collect and compile all evidence in your favor. And that's quite expensive. But the complaint was filed ​@@tablescissors67

I think we should decriminalize stalking. It's like MAP's, they are stigmatized and ostracized. They are people with feelings too

@@tigerwoods373 theres so much wrong in this statement i dont even know where to begin

​@@tigerwoods373if committing a crime and being morally robbed of the concept of right and wrong is a stigma, then you might have a few screws loose

​@@tigerwoods373no. You're not defending PEDOPHILES.

Actuals trolls would have a field day with you guys.

I've had women do it.. it's justmas scary.

@@morbidmanmusic Whoever does it should be punished to the full extent of the law. Granted a female stalker and especially a female stalker that escalates to killing their target is way more rare than a male, but not unheard of. People should be protected regardless of their gender. I hope men start confidently reporting this shit more often so they stop being cruelly ridiculed for it by ignorant assholes.

​@@argentumsoundMen do report this shit but it gets laughed off. I guarantee you really don't understand. You a woman? Because it makes sense that you don't understand. Men are not believed. Men have called about an abusive woman and you can visually see his cuts and bruises and HE gets arrested and taken from HIS home. Because SHE attacked him.

@@morbidmanmusic As a man and having a female stalk you, its like yeah I could physically destroy you but damn its an odd position if all their doing is literally tailing you, you cant just attack them like you want to, to get them to stop like you could another man. I feel bad for women who get stalked by dudes because its like they are literally prey due to the physical component and men just being outright stronger, they can't even just physically go to the person and make them stop with their hands.

​@@kevinleewilliams5119 Woman stalker survivor here. The physical differences between us are what makes confrontation dangerous, but stalking itself is the behavior. Try to look at it from a neutral standpoint like behavior or actions rather than man vs woman. Women get overpowered and toyed with, men get their lives and reputations destroyed. We're all survivors regardless of our bodies' pros and cons.

Has no daughter

Narcissistic parents am I right. They are notorious for boundary stomping. And some narcissist parents DO stalk their adult children. I don't remember her name but there was an Irish college student who sued her helicopter parents and successfully got a restraining order.

If he does have a daughter he should have no contact with her. Hes taking pics of 9 yr olds. Disgusting.

@@bunnyluver2176 He actually GROPED the 9 year old! And him trying to destroy his phone irritated me because he's not trying to even take responsibility for his actions.

​@@Starlee123its ok, they're gonna do alot more to him in prison, and that makes me smile.

I like how the cop just comes up and asks how he's going and stalker dude already knows what it's about.

Deport him immediately

For sure, but that 2nd guy is even scarier to me. Those eyes, his meth, plus his downright enthusiasm to engage in demented road rager bs shows he's a serious threat to anyone.

I hope they sent his ass back to the 3rd world slums he's used to

It’s crazy. He actually lives in the city im in. And the place he got arrested is near my neighborhood. John’s Creek is a very wealthy city where nothing really happens in JC filled with doctors and tech workers.. Most people keep their front door open because nothing ever happens here generally. It’s crazy that this happened near my house.

Calling the cops - 20-45 min wait time. CCW and 9MM - 1900 Feet per second. When you keep praying to big daddy government and keep expecting different results, it's a sign that you are clinically insane.

@@kevinspacey5325 Not everyone lives in "Murica, genius. Calm down.

​@@PyramidgodMeekman6kk, well im glad I live in Murica cause I'm allowed to have things to protect myself and not let attackers do what they want to me since the cops don't give two shits 🤷

​@crunchy_toadlet I've watched so many videos of guys who shoot just to shoot then try to cover it up later. Vigilante justice is not the answer.

@@qv43v Yep, and you can do that with a knife, or a dog, or a rope, or fists, or anything else. People attack with weapons. People also defend with weapons.

I feel the 1st one is really a relationship thing. I think the girl misled him. He probably had money she didn't benefited on. The other 2 were definitely criminals. The 1st one is weird to me a little bit, but does feel like she misled him . I believed he won't contact her again. I bet he hasn't either.

yea

I’ll let you know, I’m still workin on it (ITS A JOKE I DONT LEAVE MY HOUSE)

@@notnotme1715 😁 I don’t leave my house except for doctors appointments, so I know the feeling!

​@@karenneill9109i wont leave my house if i dont have to 😂

Yes! Keep saying this what do they thinks gonna happen. Oooh your deranged come on in want a cuppa?

They don't do it to try to date the women but to own, possess, and eventually destroy the women. It is not based on love but entitlement and narcissism.

What happened to you happened to my daughter for a brief moment. There was a boy stalking her from her middle school. Her brothers fixed that situation real quick.

@@user-qm2li8zx2d I thought that if family got told, it would have been sorted out but wanted to try the less confrontational way first.

What a story

I’m glad you had people to protect you. It’s terrifying.

That's what dad's are for!!!

I pity the sex toy.

@@vidsbybrielle woah

I’m not even that dedicated to myself.

they have a lot of fun😂

he made a horrible mistake and wasted his opportunity to live in america

You are clearly nothing like any of them if you realized what was going on and asked for help I applaud you for that I don’t think a lot of people would have been able to ask for help.

You demonstrate positive self-awarenenss.

Yeah I've been there, it puts a pit deep in your stomach when you realize the road that your possessive feelings are leading you down. I went to crazy lengths to try and preserve a dead relationship and one day I saw the reality of what was happening, apologized to the poor girl, screamed in my car (still have that fire playlist lol) and then moved on as best I could. Some days the feelings come back (I'm talking years later out of the blue) and it makes me miserable, but it gives me some sympathy for the people who can't recognize these feelings for what they are: compulsions, not affection Stalking is not okay, relationships should not be one sided overdoses of unconsentual harassment in an attempt to "reconcile" (only to lash out when the attempt inevitably fails) My heart goes out to victims of this type of torment, and I hope the people like myself who struggle with these compulsions get the support they need in order to bring peace to everyone involved.

I was getting to the stalker stage years ago. Glad I caught myself before I got to deep

Must of had some good ding dong

idk i kinda feel bad for some criminals some times, even though i know they deserve whats happening and stuff.

Right?

​@@awynsaWhy would you feel bad for someone who makes someone's life hell 😭

Of the things that happened in life, that totally happened the most. Try harder. 😂

​@@cl5470 research indian culture first and then comment again. This behaviour is common amongst indian men. They treat women like animals and property. It's disgusting, as is your comment

I believe it happened, but in a smaller scale. Like 1 or 2 instead of 8. And if this wasn't in America, but in some other country.

"Lazy Stalker" is a phrase ya never hear! :D

That's why they are so dangerous. Any normal human being would never put that kind of effort into something with no return.

It’s so weird of all the things to devote yourself to it’s someone that wants nothing to do with you.

If she has money she can hire a private investigator to follow the stalker

what if she had 32DD's

I wish I were as blissfully unaware as you.

Oh petal, you men get it too!! Oh you do! Except we do stuff like accuse of r*pe or SA and stuff if we don't get our own way!

No offense, but that mindset that it only happens to women and celebrities is not only ignorant and ridiculous, but dangerous. ANYONE can be a victim.

​@@ir9567WTF are you talking about. Are you saying men can't get raped or assaulted? I hate to shatter your illusions, but women can be perpetrators as well. Gender has nothing to do with it.

@ir9567 "we"? You speak for yourself in that repulsive behavior making me ashamed to share your gender. Shame on you.

I’m sorry that happened? Did he get arrested and did you go to therapy?

From what I've heard it is a terrifying experience that leaves the victim feeling powerless and in constant fear. Any charges such as these should automatically be felonies. This is as serious as serious can get as far as victim safety goes.

I admit I can't understand it myself. If someone weren't going to wish to be around me -- why on earth would I want to be around him or her?

They can't grasp that someone doesn't want something. They are usually narcissists as well so there is a lot of self-absorbed thinking going on inside their head.@@tanikokishimoto1604

You can't be close... .. you either were, or were not. Period.

@@morbidmanmusic I only say "close" but it was a one-time encounter that I took care of immediately. It's a more complicated story that your nose doesn't need to be in. I had a taste of what that bullshit is like but not to an extreme extent like others.

So true…

If your name was on the vehicle, it wouldn’t of been a crime

They aren't in a relationship though.....

@@thestone8187 He has his truck, I have my car. We’re on the same insurance. I work for the Fed, we both have security clearances. I have to think long and hard about things I’m not willing to blow our/ my own life up over. Even a hint of controversy… no.

Lisa......this ain't about you........

@@sterlingarcher857 Go be miserable somewhere else. You want attention? Call your parents or go make friends.

Some....pretty sure that's all stalkers since it's the very definition of being a stalker. They're entitled and believe they own the person they're targeting, they intrude on their private lives, and obsesses over the person.

@@EvilAnomaly you're absolutely correct about that.

Because most of the time they have emotional abandonment issues from childhood and usually for that reason they use their victim as a godhead for their emotional well being.

I noticed they found a “fleshlight”, but you called it a “flashlight”. Are you not aware of what that is?

It's kind of like driving past a bad wreck--you're hoping not to see someone's been hurt but you're staring for all you're worth.

Naw seriously

Hahaha, sorry about that

lol, i heard the exact thing , doubted myself

Eh?

Except they blew it by not taking his phone immediately. Instead they let him hold it and destroy it. The female cop even says "oh, I guess he broke the phone"

@@Jeff-66 yea

​@@Jeff-66That doesnt matter. The data can still be retrieved. And they have the security footage.

I'm actually surprised they did not fall for his routine of being a victim of his own crimes

*their

Obviously very difficult to understand to someone who clearly has mental issues or else this wouldn't be a thing.