It was recently revealed that Luke would have died in George’s Episode 8 and that he would have isolated himself due to the loss of a student

Love your take on the sequel trilogy! Thank you for making this content, wish there was more of it around

I get the message they were trying to send here that you can learn from past failures but the issue I have with Luke is that we don’t really see how he failed the first time. Episode 6 seems to imply that he has moved beyond the ways of the prequel Jedi and did something they never could: bring anakin back to the light side. So I just find it weird that Luke somehow makes the same mistakes as Yoda and obi-wan and has Ben turn to the dark side for unknown reasons off screen. And he now doesn’t believe his nephew can be saved even though last time we saw him he believed his father could be redeemed when no one else could. Rey for some reason is the one reminding him that a Jedi saved Vader even though he literally lived that exact moment. So I think it should be the other way around and he should be the one convincing her that Ben can be saved. And Luke believing the legacy of the Jedi is failure seems to contradict one of the first things obi-wan told him about the Jedi: that they were around for a thousand generations. So by the time of the prequels ya they got arrogant but only after their enemy the sith had been seemingly dead for a millennium.

0:10 me literally every time I finish watching TLJ

This is great Gold Man. I like how you look at your pc, like Luke looks at the Binary sunset. LOL

I really liked Luke. I didn't really the ending of the movie because it didn't really hype me up for 9 and it basically works as a movie by itself. Great ending for finale rather than a second act in a trilogy.

Great job mate, i truly loved TLJ is my fourth favorite SW movie and it bugs me that someone can’t express positive feelings about the film in social media without receiving negative reactions.

TLJ was not hated by twelve-year-olds, it was (and is) hated by people who were twelve forty years ago. :-) Well, not all of course, but many of them did not grow up. They wanted Luke to kick ass, not to leave a powerful message to them or the galaxy. I do believe however that the actual reasons for why Luke failed in the first place could have been more fleshed out. - You're right, Luke actually defined what "being a Jedi" actually means, good point!

Do you want to create a Sith empire together??

Well, I've watched this video about a year after you made it, and I think it's brilliant. Thank you for putting into words why these films are so wonderful and aren't the complete failures some people seem to think they are.

Came back to watch this to remind me of how much I missed your channel! It's been a long time man, haven't been around here since last year in Summer 2020. I missed your videos so much, it feels amazing to be back!

Thank you for your work!

Just discovered your channel man and I’m a big fan! I’ve been a huge fan of The Last Jedi but haven’t heard many voices of people my age examining its greatness. This is refreshing to hear!

Loved the video!

Great video!

great video!

Great job dude! Made me think I don’t even need to do part 2 for mine lol. You’re the best dude. Loved the cold open too.

“He was horrified” Bob Iger the CEO of Disney

Awesome video. Subbed. You definitely should do more. You deserve more views.~

you just spoke all my exact thoughts haha

Thank you for helping me see a different point of view I still do not like two sequels but I understand what you're saying and I believe we all can be friends 💞💖💕💖 where that comes down to at we both love Star Wars

Wow, is this really your first video?!? that's so crazy how far you've come. I luv the ST, even tho it feels like everyone else just shts on it. But I luv the characters, the messages, and everything else. I LUV how Palpatine was the villain the whole time and TROS is in my top 3 favorite sw movies. Don't get me wrong, I also enjoyed legends, I even enjoy the stories most ppl don't, but what they are is in the name, "legends", nothing more.

23:00 It's been 4 months and I think you killed it, man. Truly inspiring stuff.

I feel like a lot of problems with the sequels boils down to good ideas, medicore execution.

I read somewhere that George wanted Luke to be some kind of a Colonel Kurtz character from Apocalypse Now and I think that sounds pretty cool and interesting and it is kinda similar to how it turned out to be.

Originally, Star Wars was a nine movie saga from George, and although I cannot confirm this, I did hear in another video somewhere that Luke being an old hermit was actually George's idea in his sequels as well. Its a shame that when you search The Last Jedi, the top video is always the one on how much of a cinematic failure it was. These videos praising it are always far more interesting.

Great video

I Had to go back to this video just to see the Klaud sketch again 😂

Your videos are brilliant!

After the Rebels won, there were no more stormtroopers in my version of the third trilogy. Episode VII, VIII, and IX would take ideas from what happened after the Iraq War. "Okay, you fought the war, you killed everybody, now what are you going to do?" Rebuilding afterwards is harder than starting a rebellion or fighting the war. When you win the war and you disband the opposing army, what do they do? The stormtroopers would be like Saddam Hussein's Ba'athist fighters that joined ISIS and kept on fighting. The stormtroopers refuse to give up when the Republic win. They want to be stormtroopers forever, so they go to a far corner of the galaxy, start their own country and their own rebellion. There's a power vacuum so gangsters, like the Hutts, are taking advantage of the situation, and there is chaos. The key person is Darth Maul, who had been resurrected in The Clone Wars cartoons - he brings all the gangs together. Darth Maul trained a girl, Darth Talon, who was in the comic books, as his apprentice. She was the new Darth Vader, and most of the action was with her. So these were the two main villains of the trilogy. Maul eventually becomes the godfather of crime in the universe because, as the Empire falls, he takes over. The movies are about how Leia - I mean, who else is going to be the leader? - is trying to build the Republic. They still have the apparatus of the Republic but they have to get it under control from the gangsters. That was the main story. It starts out a few years after Return of the Jedi and we establish pretty quickly that there's this underworld, there are these offshoot stormtroopers who started their own planets, and that Luke is trying to restart the Jedi. He puts the word out, so out of 100,000 Jedi, maybe 50 or 100 are left. The Jedi have to grow again from scratch, so Luke has to find two- and three-year-olds, and train them. It'll be 20 years before you have a new generation of Jedi. By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. - George Lucas Hermit Luke was not The Luke George intended in his sequels. Let’s put this sequel trilogy, Disney Star Wars fan misconception to bed. Case closed.

Great video. Has anyone told you that you look like a young Han Solo (Alden Ehrenreich). I love the Sequelogy. It's my favorite trilogy in Star Wars.

Another thing that people forget to mention with Luke failing Ben is his hubris, which he says in the movie. Sure maybe Luke wouldn't try to kill Ben after RotJ, but after Luke starts to believe his own hype and wants to keep everything he's built up to that point, he's more vulnerable and susceptible to the dark side, especially when he still had good intentions

Great video! Would love to collaborate sometime.

Great Video, Gold. It's nice to see some positivity in the fanbase after so much negativity. Let me know if you'd be interested in a collaboration.

Oh awesome, a video that sums up the past 4 years of my reddit comments but better.

The birth of the gold man channel

As much as TLJ was the only sequel I liked I think George actually wanted his treatments used.

omg I loved it!

Lol, I just realized I was actually 12 when TFA came out.

Dude , I have the same poster that’s on your left and behind you ! Haha. Brilliant video! You really speak a lot of my thoughts on the sequels and Luke primarily and I think you understand Star Wars on a deeper level. It’s easy to judge when you don’t have at least a minimal understanding of Joseph Campbell’s relation to Star Wars imo. You should do a video talking about the parallels between apocalypse now and Star Wars. I’ve been doing some research on that and it’s blowing my mind. Luke was originally designed to be a colonel curtz type of character and was meant to die in episode 8 . Maybe you already know about it tho. Would be awesome to see you discuss it !

So what you're saying is that Legends still made the best Luke?

The Last Jedi was an incredibly unique Star Wars experience for me as a fan. Although I didn’t agree with every single thing, the arc of Luke Skywalker was the most compelling to me other than Kylo Ren and Rey’s.

George Lucas wanted a girl named Winkie (She became Rey, actually) and she was supposed to find a Luke, very much like the one that we saw in the sequels. Great video, Gold man.

Yeah Gold Man him staying on the island wasn’t the best choice and also all it did was create more pain

@The Gold Man, I actually like your points. I will be honest that I still don't like Luke in episode 8, but I do see the value you pointed out. For ME, (key word me) the reason I feel sad when watching like in it is b/c I know there is no real perfect way that will serve the story yet give us a positive Luke. Basically, I (again, just me) see the whole star wars saga as 85 percent tradgty, wether you wanna say order 66, ANAKIN'S turn, rouge one, SOMEwhat kannans death, ashoka's guilt toward anakin, obi-wan guilt (which will surely be explored in the kenobi show), and what a lot of these things (sad things) have j common is that they will resolved or at least positively influenced by Luke. What I am saying is so much bad happens in star wars (which is why ROTJ ending is so impactful) Luke is the one who actually needs to and is okay to just succeed with flaws, but OVERALL SUCCEED. Also that yoda, anakin, and obi-wan are specifically choosen by the Force to be ghosts to help Luke grow. So the fact that all this is set up for him to not really GROW BEYOND THE FAILURE of these force ghosts for me I just feek depressed and kinda hopeless. I know Luke stepping up at the end of TLJ should help resolve this, and it does a little, but then I just kinda feel like okey-dokey adachokey. Anyways, still a realy good video, and I was wondering if you know of any places online that I can talk with Star wars fans civilly even though we can disagree? You seem like a guy who would know where to find place like that

The biggest problem in Star Wars is the return of Palpatine.

I think Klaud prefers ROS because there’s more him in it

I’m so glad more people are coming and speaking positively about the sequel trilogy. I loved all 3 films and felt it tied into the saga in a satisfying way.

You forgot this 🎖️

In retrospect, saying that this is what Lucas wanted is kind of misleading. It was VERY early concept art and George just gave it his seal of approval. That may sound like proof of what he wanted, but if you look over concept art from the prequels, he gave lots of other seals of approval to art that was never utilized in the final film. Not to mention, we now have more details from Lucas himself about what he wanted to happen in his sequels, none of which paints the picture of the Luke from either the concept art nor TLJ

Klaud's our lord

And yet somehow only after the last jedi just because of the way luke was treated everybody started missing lucas. This is soo hilarious

Klaud talks??

May the Klaud be with you.

I understand your perspective and it seems like many who liked the sequels are already popping up everywhere but for me. It was just too disjointed, confusing, annoying, characters I loved had such weird changes and I hated it, the ending was... I don’t even know and this is coming from someone who avoided Star Wars for 17 years of being on this earth and finally watched it all of them last last year. I knew I’d like the originals and came out loving them, I went into the Prequels with low expectations and OT knowledge but came out... really liking some and loving one so much it made me cry just like Return of the Jedi did, that film was Revenge of the Sith. When it came to the sequels I had no expectations and watched them late last year (Fire sticks are nice for not having to go to the theater) my No expectations attitude granted me anger, confusion, and annoyance. I watched plenty of videos like this weather it was critiquing or explaining and I couldn’t like them I really tried but they don’t work with me. I’m not going to talk about Ben’s wasted potential, Rey’s overpowered...ness, Luke’s sudden murder attempt just seemed so out of character for me, sure he was flawed but at this point he’s not the arrogant boy from Empire, he’s the level headed Jedi that saved the second most evil person in the galaxy. Obviously I’m probably just stuck in the past but this Luke felt strange, it just seemed utterly strange, And throwing this in again Luke showing up to help a random Sith Trooper and showing him what a Jedi really is inspired the trooper and gave him hope. I don’t know man but this just my view. I guess my road for Star Wars just ends with the originals, Prequels, and extended lore. Btw Rian saying Luke should’ve beaten Vader in Empire gave me little hope for his Star Wars Trilogy... and now it’s gone

I really have to disagree with you here, man. When you say Luke was flawed, sure, we can agree to that point, but despite that flaw, he never once believed that Vader was so evil, that he couldn't be turned back to the light. So how in the hell could Luke think that BEN was beyond redemption?? It just doesn't make any sense to me. A man who was so twisted and evil, that he killed younglings, and got off on killing and torturing people, just because they inconvenienced him, FOR DECADES, yet Luke still saw the good in him. I'm sorry, I just can't accept that he would think his own nephew could be so dark, that he's beyond saving, to the point Luke has this insane lapse in judgement, that he would even THINK about killing his nephew. Just... No. And to suggest that others would think the same way, I have to vehemently disagree.

I see through the lies of the Jedi (JK You can have your opinion)

I really dont like this version of Luke. I'm happy i understand why people do though. It's great people can enjoy these movies.

You definitely changed my mind about Luke in TLJ. Before I couldn’t understand why Luke wanted the Jedi to end but now that I think about it it completely makes sense. The Jedi made a big mistake in the prequels but not seeing the Sith Lord they were trying to find was right under their noses. One last example is when Luke tosses Anakins lightsaber it did not seem like Luke would do that. But I now realize why he did that. The last time he saw that saber was when he found out his father was Darth Vader and when he lost his hand. So to me it makes sense. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk!

Great video! I certainly like these movies better now than when I saw first saw them. Where Rian Johnson loses me is when he brings our politics into the movie in such a blatant way. I used to go to movies to get away from that. I don't go to movies anymore.

"What" and "why" Geogre Lucas wanted are irrelevant, because the problems are not the "what" and "why", but the "how", and Lucas would've definitely done things in such way that they actually make sense. The problem with Luke in TLJ isn't that he's jaded. The problem is on the one hand that they don't do anything with that concept, and on the other hand, is that they had the nerve to pretend this age old clishé, that they had managed to spectacularly screw-up, was a perfectly executed and oh-so-original direction. Compared to Peter B from Spider-verse (who is the exact same charater-archetype, in the exact same archetypical story), it's blatantly obvious how badly executed Luke's "story-line" is. Whereas the reasons for Peter B's jadedness are explored adequetly, right at the moment of his introduction, and he rediscovers his passion through teaching Miles, in TLJ 1: we don't learn what made Luke jaded until his second to last scene, and even then, the explanation is a load of bullcr*p. Not because "Luke wanted to kill his nephew for a thought crime". But because they opt for telling instead of showing, which is the cardinal sin of storytelling. Luke claims that he saw darkness in Crylo Crap during his training, right? Well how about you show us that darkness, instead of the utterly irrelevant Canto Bight sh*t? Show him lash out and almost kill a fellow student who bested him during a lightsaber fencing practise for example, and show that Luke was barely able to stop him! We can immediately better relate to Luke's decision to invade the privacy of his nephew's mind, and his instinctive reaction of "kill this bastard" and his immediate regret. 2: He doesn't rediscover his passion through teaching Rey. Instead he's given a ridiculously hypocritical and self-contradicting peptalk by Yoda. Seriously how fcking stupid one has to be, to write down a character uttering a fortune cookie like "Greatest teacher failure is" (which to be fair is kinda true), and immediately follow it up, with the same person (Yoda) telling that MaRey Sue already knows everything Luke does not, eventhough MaRey Sue has not experienced a single failure across these two movies??? And I'm saying this as someone who actually thinks TLJ is by far the best film in the rehash-trilogy. Which honestly says more about how awful the other two are, than about how good this one is.

Haha man this video has not aged well at all considering we all know now what George Lucas had truly intended for Luke.... Spoiler Alert!..... it was nowhere near this

“They has no clue what they’re doing” Well yeah they never had a plan lol

I don't think wanting to save his friends out ways KILLING HIS OWN NEPHEW

If Luke cares so much about his loved ones that he’s briefly ready to kill his own nephew to protect them, why would he just fuck off to another planet and leave them behind in their hour of need? This is why Luke shouldn’t really be that shocked to learn that Han is dead, because what else did he think could happen by leaving Kylo and Snoke to do as they please? You might say that Luke is too depressed to think straight. My headcanon though is that he got serious brain damage when Kylo made the hut fall on him. lol

This is totally false See Nerdnonymous Star Wars Apocrypha Part 2 This time slot 17:45-19:45

In all honesty the idea of Luke a crazy hermit was prevalent in Lucas’s ideas for his sequel trilogy but the reasoning behind Luke’s transformation in this sequel trilogy to me does not work.He debates for a moment of killing his Nephew. That is nothing like Luke at all. He would not debate killing his nephew because of visions of him falling to the Darkside he would try to help his nephew even more see the ways of the Jedi and The Force. If this is what he debated then he should have had no problem considering killing his Father. The only reason why he strikes against him is because Vader threatens to harm his sister and it triggers Luke’s Anger. At that time he was young and still had to learn control but he always believed in giving others a second chance including his friends and family. The idea that Luke would debate harming his Nephew over a vision of what wasn’t when he forgave a man that harmed him and his friends for years tells me that there is something wrong with the reasoning behind Luke’s fall. George with his story team came up with the idea of Luke being a crazy old hermit hiding in the cave over the betrayal of a student in his order but in this it shows that while Kylo did destroy his order if the only reason why he did it was because Luke attempted to kill him then this issue heavily falls on Luke. If he knew that Ben had connections with Snoke he shouldn’t have given in to darkness to solve his problem. That is not Luke. Luke would have tried to Save his Nephew before he fell just like his father. I’m not saying Luke is perfect but what I am saying is these are traits of his character that Rian did not focus on when bringing the reason for why Luke had turned. If the flashback was longer and a little more fleshed out on Luke trying to help Ben and him constantly refusing and embracing more of the Darkside then Ben doing evil things and corrupting his Jedi Order with temptation than this scene would maybe feel more developed but it wasn’t. The idea that Ben did nothing bad before this moment or gave into the Darkside and was just conflicted on the inside like Anakin was then this just does not work in my opinion. If you want to bring up Luke’s struggles as a Master of a Jedi Order and his struggles with Ben show that. That scene alone did not justify Luke for a lot of people. In order to give a character an arc you have to show the transformation clearly and consistently with consistency instead of showing a mistake that is out of character from the character we know and not explaining why that error was made within the character. The idea of Luke in this film was similar to what George seem to have in mind but it missed the mark and overall created a version of the character that people could not relate to or sympathize for without a clear reason for why he changed. (This is just my opinion on the matter but feel free to tell me how you feel about it. Your video was very well edited and I do like your references and message but I had to give my opinion on the matter.)

Problem isn’t the idea of broken Luke it’s the execution...Lucas never would’ve made Luke throw away the lightsaber like that as a joke

You can either agree that the sequel trilogy was terrible or you can be wrong...

You know that lucas was horrified by this films luke, how are you this naive

I would argue that broken Luke isn't the problem, *cynical* Luke is.

22:34 You are wrong. They made luke like that to piss us off. If you enjoy the sequels you must actually hate Star Wars deep down.

Too young, yes, too young to have a real perspective on this subject.

I but how can this dude try and justify the absolute character assassination of luke in the last jedi Oh..... Wait..... Hes the same person thaf thinks Rey ismt a Mary Sue when that is an absolute fact that she is one This video has to be a troll theres no way that you genuinely believe Lule om the last jedi is how luke really is cause if you do then you arent a Real Star Wars Fan i dont care what anyone says

George would have done better....

The last jedi is trash

Hi my name is Jake Skywalker, I believed my dad was a good person despite him having literally murdered children. I helped him realize his good side, and because of my faith in him he changed and saved my life. Please excuse me while I go attempt to murder my nephew, I have a hunch that he's going to be evil when he grows up.