Why Season 8 of Game of Thrones Doesn't Work
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Күн бұрынI know this aint my usual content but Season 8 Episode 3 of Game of Thrones the Battle of Winterfell really struck me in a bad way. I enjoyed it while I was watching it, until that ending. So inspiration struck and I made this. Hope you like it. PSA Sitch
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@PSASitch 5 жыл бұрын
So my prediction of the everything works out ending was proven completely wrong. I assumed that would be the ending because nothing was being built or set up to go in a different direction. Silly me, it's my fault for being naive. I spent this whole video complaining about how D&D don't care about properly setting things up, I should have expected a completely out of nowhere left turn into crazy town. Part 2 now out! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rduZgbWhytfLY3U.html
@aunthaumv3711 5 жыл бұрын
They fucked up the whole series with the last season. Is it the weight of living up to the expectation that they messed up so bad?!
@blueguy136 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know what they are planning with just a single episode left and not much more to cover as there is no main enemy anymore, going to be a slow episode for sure with a lot of back stabbing and probably set ups for spin off series to come
@conk3rryan422 5 жыл бұрын
congratulations for your first 1 million video! May it be the first of many :D
@GameBoysUK 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely make another video, I'd be very interested on your updated thoughts after episode 5. Great content!
@gard86 5 жыл бұрын
@@blueguy136 Ehm, Deanerys is the main enemy now...
@cocogoat1029 5 жыл бұрын
i love how smug the writers look thinking that they wrote a masterpiece
@stick-itproductions.3307 4 жыл бұрын
True... And it wasn't even their own idea.
@heraldsloth 4 жыл бұрын
I'm angry that they get a Star Wars trilogy.. given how the sequels and GoT S8 went.
@Paul_Jeremiah_Rabin 4 жыл бұрын
AdamBlueification they were fired
@nicholaskinkaid 4 жыл бұрын
@@heraldsloth If you are a star wars fan then you have plenty already to be angry at.
@stevennorris7181 4 жыл бұрын
yeah those after episode interview things were so painful, they were talking about their work in the third person as if they were fans of it, "I think jon did this for this reason and whats really interesting about that is...." was how they would talk lol, they both have very, very punchable faces.
@0mnicide 5 жыл бұрын
“They defeated Satan and I’m supposed to care who gets elected President afterwards..” - Some KZfaqr whose name I can’t remember
@asksmeq3883 5 жыл бұрын
Nerdrotic I believe, and I couldn’t have put it better myself
@0mnicide 5 жыл бұрын
Asks me Q! Yes. That’s the guy. Thank you.
@neriumsuitedher 5 жыл бұрын
Dude I feel you. I'm still seething. All while trying to pretend that the outline in my head is the real canon.
@rockavenger7729 5 жыл бұрын
Nerdrotic said that
@bawsack69 5 жыл бұрын
It was like the Muller report, years of build up for a big nothing burger, and it cost million to produce.
@ShaiAmos 5 жыл бұрын
Cersei should have been resolved in Season 7. Season 8 should have been the battle against the apocalypse.
@Mason-kd2zr 5 жыл бұрын
My big issue is that Jon Snow should've killed the Night King while Arya should've killed Cersei. Jon is connected to the Night King more than Arya. Arya killing the Night King doesn't make much sense. But at the same time Arya needs a big moment for her development in this season. Killing the Night King didn't develop the character. Killing Cersei would have. Arya got nothing out of this season even if she is the real hero.
@ShaiAmos 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mason-kd2zr I can't say I disagree with any of that.
@chrismassalas 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! At least bring the NK and the army of dead to the South... for the love of God!
@ShaiAmos 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrismassalas Yeah, make his character and that conflict that's been building actually mean something, instead of brushing it aside as if it was nothing more than a minor annoyance.
@BunzieCakes 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mason-kd2zr I hoped Jaime was the one who killed Cersei 😔
@lizardperson9648 5 жыл бұрын
S1 W S2 I S3 N S4 T S5 E S6 R IS S7 COMIN S8 G... AND IT'S GONE
@EmitNen 4 жыл бұрын
Jurchen Chan brilliant..just brilliant 😂
@TheStapleGunKid 4 жыл бұрын
Season 8: Winter.exe has stopped working.
@ik8303 5 жыл бұрын
The screen is dark and the script is full of errors.
@tamircohen1512 5 жыл бұрын
Made me laugh out loud
@TeaScholar 5 жыл бұрын
Ybinn2 lmaooooo!,!,
@yellowfruitchocker9879 5 жыл бұрын
XD
@alexandraaikonika 5 жыл бұрын
The best joke about Game of Thrones I’ve seen in a while. Good job, man.
@mcqueenng8691 5 жыл бұрын
nice
@Sealdrop 5 жыл бұрын
HBO: what do we say to a good ending? D&D: not today
@joffreybaratheon9044 5 жыл бұрын
Despacito
@kyliekoss8136 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@elgatochurro 4 жыл бұрын
When the campaign ends
@peterparker9214 4 жыл бұрын
Sealdrop lmao greatest comment ever 😂😂😂
@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184 4 жыл бұрын
HBO: what do we say to a good ending? D&D: I don't want it!
@obsessivefangirl5055 5 жыл бұрын
This is like the hundredth video I've watched of people explaining how they would've resolved the conflict with the NK, with Cersei and Dany, etc and all of them are way more SENSIBLE AND LOGICAL THAN WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
@lyrilljackson 5 жыл бұрын
and yet the 1% still rules. people are angry exactly because they ruin someone who was supposed to change the world and break the wheels. these stupid for profit shows aren't sincere after all
@obsessivefangirl5055 5 жыл бұрын
@@lyrilljackson yeah Hollywood ruins art. Its a sad fact.
@synchro7451 4 жыл бұрын
Cersei was a pretty important character , the fact that they killed her in rubble without any interaction with Dany is disgusting.
@ricksanchez1079 5 жыл бұрын
1 Random undead can hear a drop of Ayra's blood hitting the floor. 10+ whites 100s of undead and 1 Night king can't hear a yelling running/jumping Arya. *ALL IN THE SAME EPISODE*
@mistahj4426 5 жыл бұрын
This girl was not making any noise. 😁
@fran3ro 5 жыл бұрын
Rick, can you take to a dimension where te Night King kills Arya in that episode?
@entropic8708 5 жыл бұрын
She was almost definitely guised as a wight.... Dur. They definitely should have showed that, though.
@ericstaples7220 5 жыл бұрын
The white walkers turned their heads before she attacked the Night King. This means they heard her, but she was too fast for them to react to in time. There goes your theory. Now was the show stupid or are you just upset that Jon didn't kill the Night King?
@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher 5 жыл бұрын
@@ericstaples7220 it was stupid. Personally I've been counting down to King's Landing. Whether it was going to be Cersei coming out on top, or if Jaime or Tyrion put a stop to her, all against a backdrop of Arya returning from a place of strength to resolve her arc and avenge the life she was thrown out of. Perhaps even destroying Tyrion and Jaime you never know... Season 7 finale was unintentionally hilarious and I think lessened my enthusiasm, they went the way they did I wouldn't say it bothers me it's just anticlimactic.
@jaye3547 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine gathering the best fighters in Westeros, giving them all Valerian steel swords, then not having a single White Walker vs 'hero' duel.
@sleepz1651 5 жыл бұрын
Jay E not one! All that build up for nothing!
@crocodileranger8404 5 жыл бұрын
That would be even worse. No one wants your shitty bad guy vs traditional hero fight
@johnlungo8080 5 жыл бұрын
Entertainment today tries to steer clear of anything actually cool. A sword fight between a hero and a white walker would be awesome, but might hurt women's feelings because they could never be as badass as a man. So creators now just "subvert expectations", also known as lazy writing.
@devilshila5588 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnlungo8080 But Brienne has a valyrian sword so she is a woman who can have that fight. And Arya still could have killed the NK when he is fighting another character, assassin style. And we could have had a WW in the crypt where Varys sacrifices himself so Tyrion and Sansa could have an opportunity to kill him. The writters are just bad
@toivosilvennoinen8540 5 жыл бұрын
But why would a White Walker engage in combat? Can you give me ONE logical reason why you, as a White Walker, would risk your life (and the unlives of your wights) in a duel? Same with NK and Jon. NK could lose everything he's worked for the last x years to some raggy-haired hobo with a sword.
@akmonra 4 жыл бұрын
Night King: No man can kill me. Theon: *Drops trousers* I am no man!
@Cenotaur1 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@AbhishekPal-ri9gr 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@superdanyal2009 3 жыл бұрын
Looool that's brutal
@glorygloryholeallelujah 3 жыл бұрын
This still would’ve made more sense than MarySue Stark!!! Remember they say that the Valyrian word is basically *”gender neutral”* or can be used for both female or male description? Well... what if that Valyrian word was *”neutral,”* because the _Azor mf Ahai_ was *”NEUTERED?!”* 😱🤣 Still makes WAY more sense than _deus ex Stark’ina getting “the kill”!!_ 🤦♀️
@SheikhMawini 5 жыл бұрын
When you hear a writer say, "I *think* the character feels this way..." Shouldn't you *know*?
@darknesswave100 5 жыл бұрын
Or saying that Dany "forgot about the iron fleet" when at some point in the episode before it somewhere she was told about the iron fleet. She's either really bad with her memory or they wrote themselves into a corner and shit the bed when it came to making sense if it
@chrismassalas 5 жыл бұрын
D&D: You know nothing! And you ruined it all in the end. Shame!!
@Mason-kd2zr 5 жыл бұрын
No no no. The actor should know, not the writers. As displayed by what Marvel has done. Half the marvel scripts are improv these days. I hope the writers learned a lesson here that they take with them to star wars. The directors of the star wars reboot made the same mistake. Listen to your actors. They are the character.
@TheBeastr 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mason-kd2zr this coming from one of the writers and directors of X-Men Origins: Wolverine and decided to change deadpool into the opposite of the 'Merc with the Mouth' Honestly D&D do better when they are working with someone who can take the lead or they become nearly assistant directors and assistant writers. If they had more source material, maybe it could've been better. But with every year they took more liberties and burned so many plot lines that it's not surprising the show became swiss cheese. Like I could see more holes in the past few seasons than their are in two full games of Golf! (Tbh, I wish someone would throw rotten tomatoes and feces on them for the next ten years whenever they go into public, but that's what I think they deserve)
@Nekrumorfiini1 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheBeastr So if they didn't direct it, it would've been better? That's pretty obvious.
@lucifer_0309 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine Hermione kills Voldemort in the sixth book. The final of the 7th book is how Harry tries to win the Quidditch Cup against the evil Slytherin. Season 8 GoT.
@imanaralltidbast 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahah omg spot on.
@coathee 5 жыл бұрын
stop stealing comments lmao
@aigerimsam3523 5 жыл бұрын
@David Kinney well, I'd prefer a good written general story over a bad new one.
@aigerimsam3523 5 жыл бұрын
@David Kinney yes, my opinion doesn't add anything, just like you saying GoT is good because it's a new type of story doesn't add anything to the matter of the bad execution of the said story.
@aigerimsam3523 5 жыл бұрын
@David Kinney I don't really see any analysis, all you said was that GoT doesn't have a specific lead character. This fact doesn't make it good or bad, that's true. But then you went on saying "How about we try something new?", which has a positive undertone to it, which in turn implies you think of this 'new' stuff as good. So this basically means that you stated a subjective view that doesn't add to anything.
@DannyPhantom435 5 жыл бұрын
Joffrey Baratheon was the lead antagonist longer than the Night King
@greenkidd529 5 жыл бұрын
And his death was a better use of subverting expectations.
@ilanpiol2680 5 жыл бұрын
And Walder Frey killed more people
@snorcutter 5 жыл бұрын
@@greenkidd529 Because it was in the books.
@jacquidavies8059 5 жыл бұрын
When was the night king ever the main antagonist?
@minipie9175 5 жыл бұрын
ED2 09 he did kill a lot of unsullied and basically all of the northern meant and Dothraki
@lar.8168 5 жыл бұрын
Also, the Night King can be murdered with Valyrian steel because it's made of dragonfire, but not by actual dragonfire?
@srilemobitelsrile8809 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZ2daauBnpupdIE.html He has good explanation
@HVBRSoF 5 жыл бұрын
It's not just valyrian steel. it's the same dagger pushed into him by the children of the forest from which he was made a white walker. But getting Arya to do it? Yeah, that was completely a cunt brothers move. Doing something not because it makes senses, but because it subverts expectations!
@atuljha6128 5 жыл бұрын
@@HVBRSoF no it's not the same dagger.
@Chemtekmain 4 жыл бұрын
Jao Romero they stabbed him with dragonglass, not a dagger. Also, valyrian steel is a mix of steel, dragonfire and dragonglass alike. Still weird ill admit. Either have him die from dragonfire or dont blast him with it in the first place
@dreadpirateroberts4764 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chemtekmain Was the recipe for valyrian steel ever actually revealed?
@RoronoaDZoro-ko8cv 5 жыл бұрын
also why did they make it seem like jaime was in love with brienne if he was just going to go and die with cersei
@obsessivefangirl5055 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly my point
@bj71000 5 жыл бұрын
dRaMa
@samueljackson3512 5 жыл бұрын
TO SUBVERT YOUR EXPECTIONS LMAO
@TheStapleGunKid 4 жыл бұрын
The same reason Jaime said he doesn't care about innocent people in King's Landing after killing his own king to protect the innocent people of King's Landing. Because D&D are hack writers who can't keep their characters even remotely consistent.
@giabarrone7422 4 жыл бұрын
Because beds are cold at night in the North? There was zero sexual chemistry between them.
@joeshmoe7485 5 жыл бұрын
This is PROOF that literally ANYONE could have written a better story for S8E3 than D&D.
@vassilyvodka2638 5 жыл бұрын
It's not even their Story. Couldn't thsy just go to George to ask him for help?.
@TomyBinho 5 жыл бұрын
I actually read a "leaked script" 2 years ago that was tons better than this crap
@joeshmoe7485 5 жыл бұрын
@@TomyBinho I believe you.
@drunkrumjack 5 жыл бұрын
And anyone who is a No One with No One parents with zero force training can become a Jedi. Arya is lightyears better than Rey mind you but this whole well Jon Snow was important but we want to have Arya be our Rey (it was cool though but...) just for a twist is out of a Last Jedi playbook. When was the last good significant kill Jon Snow made? He punched Ramsay out, has a few stare downs with the Night King and his dragon. Maybe Jon Snow truly does know nothing cause it seems apart from brooding diplomacy he does what?
@fxzeedits5456 5 жыл бұрын
Thats like killing voldemort in harry potter and then the next movie is about who wins the house cup
@Historyfan476AD 5 жыл бұрын
hey at least that would be fun to watch, i mean sure gryffindor would have a heavy advantage from the thousand points given to Harry for Killing Voldemort.
@monolithworldline 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@TheFireknight12 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say more, they killed ole Tom Riddle. then every panics because a Troll was last seen in the girls bathroom.
@xxCrimsonSpiritxx 5 жыл бұрын
spot on comparison
@fxzeedits5456 5 жыл бұрын
stephen hawkins yeah
@ckhawk00 5 жыл бұрын
Why season 8 fails... George R.R. Martin wasn’t involved
@ckhawk00 5 жыл бұрын
@0 Subscribers Without Videos Do you have proof of what you say. That it is his ending? Because if push came to shove I could pull up clips of him stating how he became less involved over the seasons, and that he had an agreement from the start that they could take it in any direction they wanted. He writes slow + gets easily distracted + takes on too much work = this has been his thing for decades. So if you are just finding him from the show just know we readers have been tortured for decades.
@ckhawk00 5 жыл бұрын
0 Subscribers Without Videos you will have to link this because just a few months ago GRR said the book will be different
@ckhawk00 5 жыл бұрын
@0 Subscribers Without Videos thanks.
@Itried20takennames 4 жыл бұрын
ckhawk00 True, but there also just seemed to be a lack of care: the coffee cups/water bottle left in final shots, telling archers “Fire!” Instead of “Loose!,” Gendry calling himself the wrong bastard name, the plot armor, the abandonment of many plot lines, characters contradicting or not acting like themselves, etc.
@gtc4692 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not that George wasn’t involved. Why it failed is because George didn’t already write it for them and they just adapt it to TV. That’s the reason the first few seasons were good.
@Desatyrion 5 жыл бұрын
LOL! The "Arya teleports behind you, nothing personal kid" had me choking on my water. :'D
@Deno2100 5 жыл бұрын
Literally everyone's alternative episode is better than the actual episode.
@MohammadAli-iz9ld 5 жыл бұрын
And that always makes me think What kind of a retarded D&D are???
@zonipoi 5 жыл бұрын
@@MohammadAli-iz9ld they are hacks who merely thrive in the politics of film industry, hence they got to do the writing despite their lack of aptitude in it.
@andrewmartin5029 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the NK was going to Kingslanding convincing the golden company join the fight
@mikagrof9243 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmartin5029 he wouldnt convince them he would just slaughter them
@DormantGolem 5 жыл бұрын
@@zonipoi I heard from someone they didn't wanna continue Game of Thrones because they got bored with it but what the fuck does this show for anything they will make in the future?
@vzvictorsaurus 5 жыл бұрын
Daenerys: We must attack King's Landing now! Everyone else: Why? Daenerys: Because we only have two episodes left!
@jacobmccabe458 5 жыл бұрын
to be fair that is a pretty good reason. the real question is why go to kings landing by boat when euron and the iron fleet is around why not just move on land or better yet how do you even forget that the iron fleet exist. daenerys: because the writers say we have to and because the writers say i forgot.
@Mr.Sax. 5 жыл бұрын
-We have two options, we go by land where we have some disadvantage since a big chunk of our army is gone or we go by sea, were we have a massive disadvantage even with a full army since they have the fucking Iron Fleet waiting for us somewhere on the way. -Hmmmm... To the boats.
@FearRua 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Sax. Because Tyrion thinks he is smart and devises the brilliant(retarded) plans that always fail. If it wasn't for Tyrion, Danny could have defeated Kings landing with 3 alive dragons a few seasons ago giving them tons of more allies and resources to fight the Night King, but instead the little imp drove her crazy with his constant failed (brilliant) plans and now she looks like the bad guy. I can't wait till Tyrion dies.
@Mr.Sax. 5 жыл бұрын
@@FearRua Tyrion dumb, sure. The writers are the dumb ones for making such smart characters like Tyrion or Lord Bayless make such bold moves in the last seasons. Don't ever make such statement again before thinking.
@quinton1306 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Sax. Dani is not cruel the writers make her cruel. John Snow is not brave the writers make him act brave. Are you even reading what you are saying? If a characters was smart it was the writers who made him smart in the first plays.
@sfchief415 3 жыл бұрын
John in S8 ep2: "We can't beat them in a straight fight" S8 ep3: Doathraki charge straight into them
@xxDrain 5 жыл бұрын
The way things DID happen, the south can just keep on denying that the night king ever existed >.
@haziq12ish 4 жыл бұрын
And all the masters was correct. It wasnt a huge threat anyway
@Gravity638 5 жыл бұрын
Game of thrones is generic tv at this point, I'm glad its ending.
@TonySharkks 5 жыл бұрын
What you aren't excited for the 12 spinoffs off?! lol
@sunnyjim1355 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even pirate it.
@cmo1162 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunnyjim1355 lol, brilliant
@MarcAlcatraz 5 жыл бұрын
Me too, at this point I wouldn’t be able to be invested in another season
@Aeric98 5 жыл бұрын
It should have ended two years ago.
@elchapo6452 5 жыл бұрын
They rushed it... that's why. They should have had 10 episodes. By rushing it, they created plot holes.
@augustlavdal6187 5 жыл бұрын
Not only plot holes.. Terrible battle strategies, people do stupid things, nothing is explained, wayy to many cuts, knight king is dead in only one episode, half the army somehow survives, plot armor, seems like people are about to die but no and scorps lost 100% from ep 4-5...
@augustlavdal6187 5 жыл бұрын
i can tell you much more, but you know there is much more. Because the show is so bad that everybody can see every mistake they make, even if it's just a starbucks cup
@elchapo6452 5 жыл бұрын
@@augustlavdal6187 yeah and that is created by the bad pacing. We on the same page my dude
@rickfrompawnstars5550 5 жыл бұрын
EL CHAPO how does it feel that HBO offered them more budget for episodes and the writers said naaaaa were good 👍🏻
@elchapo6452 5 жыл бұрын
@@rickfrompawnstars5550 I know man... they fucked up
@DarkPrince-mn4so 4 жыл бұрын
what i would have wanted to see 1- Arya tries to kill Jamie using one of her faces, only to have Bran stop her. 2- Jamie asks Bran why Tommen committed suicide and to learn the bitter truth. This where Bran's reply of "the things I do for love." better comes into play. 3- A cruel and bitter death for Cersei 4- the Golden Company being more than just a handful of extras 5- have the Night King the final battle 6- have Jon Snow being Aegon Targaryen actually mean something and that's just to start
@liverpooljft9623 5 жыл бұрын
Jon and theon taking on the night king together would've been SOO MUCH better.
@jonlocke1624 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. But honestly, almost anything else would have been better.
@EmyN 4 жыл бұрын
Omg yes! And then Theon dies during the fighting, not rushing to the NK like an idiot
@godspeed2272 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and maybe TNK kills Theon after knocking Longclaw out of Jon's hand and is about to kill Jon before Arya tosses him the dagger or, better yet, stabs TNK in the back of the neck paralleling Howland Reed saving Ned
@mjr_schneider 5 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed at how good your alternative storyline is, but then again literally every alternative storyline I've heard for this episode has been better than what they actually went with.
@illgiveitago1719 5 жыл бұрын
You uh. You got a point here
@WhatsTheTakeaway 5 жыл бұрын
Low bars, and all that.
@Lilitha11 5 жыл бұрын
They are just dues ex machina everything. Arya's teleports out of no where for the kill and half their army was still alive the next episode even though it looked like everyone died. If they remove the dues ex machina and make a normal consistent it is all fixed. Arya fights her way through the army to get to the night king(maybe with some help of other main characters?) and the army acts intelligently so half of them survive. The story is fine like that.
@helvetica709 5 жыл бұрын
@@Lilitha11 This isn't even a deus ex machina thing anymore. This is a Chaos ex machina, aka nonsense.
@iamspencerx 5 жыл бұрын
Me 6 years ago: GoT is the best series ever because unlike the other series, they adapt the story off a book, and don't pull it out their asses like other series do. Me now: For fuck's sake
@CuracaoChic 5 жыл бұрын
Because there is no more written book so they have to pull it out of their asses :(
@darknesswave100 5 жыл бұрын
See this is the difference between game of thrones and the lord of the rings which was mentioned in the video. The lord of the rings books have been out for years and years and they took the material (God bless Peter Jackson) and made the movies which are pretty good even by casual viewer standards. GRRM has been bullshitting for a while not getting the books out and look what happens. After they ran out of book material the show has basically gone to shit. The braindead morons writing the stuff are throwing shit at the wall and trying to see what sticks and nothing is
@chicano_travels 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck the book. You wanna be meister ?or something? Read about the achievements of other men? I rather watch it
@nightmareTomek 5 жыл бұрын
They are running out of ideas and want cashgrabs where ever they find it. Song of ice and fire successful? Let's take it and rape it for money, and not wait till it's done like Lord of the Rings.
@chrismassalas 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I spent 9 years watching the whole series numerous time. Love the characters. Love GOT. Then usurpers D&D RUINED IT ALL!!!!
@rileyelkin4380 4 жыл бұрын
"the Knight king wants to erase this world and I am it's memory" "that's stupid". Thank you!!
@artemshimanski3618 5 жыл бұрын
I love how in season 8 they had D&D after the episode trying to justify terrible writing. Like if you have to say "she kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet", when the Iron Fleet was mentioned within the episode, you suck at writing. If you've got to explain why things make sense after the episode, you've kind of forgot how to write. Imagine watching a movie, and after the credits, the writers start telling you "no, it's not that this doesn't make any sense or doesn't adhere to who the character is, they just kind of forgot". The fact that they did this basically proves that they knew their writing was atrocious and they owed people an explanation of some sort lol.
@ShubhamPatil-rl4jk 5 жыл бұрын
It's like voldmort got defeated in sixth movie and Harry Potter is now in finale with whose gonna win quidditch match😂😂
@dramatican 5 жыл бұрын
Express your anger, sign the petition! chng.it/TL5fNL8rF5
@aidanmagill6769 5 жыл бұрын
Seven and a half seasons in and you've failed to grasp that this is a show about the power struggles between rival families. The threat from the White Walkers has always always always been a sub plot. An amorphous background threat that the humans ignore whilst they plot and scheme against each other. It's ultimately a commentary on human nature and our self destructive nature.
@selimtoprak8070 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@LiamT120 5 жыл бұрын
@@aidanmagill6769 No. The whole point of the books and seasons is to show the futility of war and bickering. We got so many shots of burnt fields with the Hound and Arya as Winter approached. So much wasted food, resources and men. Ever since season 4 it's been fan service at the expense of the plot.
@Knux999 5 жыл бұрын
Aidan Magill I wonder how many more ‘This series has been awful for 4 seasons, but somehow I still watch it/know it like the back of my hand and am taking the time out of my day to make a video about it’ there will be before the series ends?
@SasukeUchiha-vb2vy 5 жыл бұрын
The wall was built to protect the night king from bad writing
@hdawg9883 5 жыл бұрын
Sasuke Uchiha 😂😂😂😂
@gingerbill128 5 жыл бұрын
that really made me laugh
@thugnificiant1324 5 жыл бұрын
Poor guy, he didnt know
@Nemo_Ayanami 5 жыл бұрын
Bad writing? Anyone who says this season is suffering from bad writing is just repeating what they've read online.
@thugnificiant1324 5 жыл бұрын
Nemo Odinson David Benioff, who wrote this season is the same writer from xmen origins let that sink in.
@solarneddy 5 жыл бұрын
Season 8 has flushed the entire previous 7 seasons down the toilet
@chrismassalas 5 жыл бұрын
Last season is a 3-day old Soda, goes straight to the toilet. It's unacceptable!!!!
@TheWikingWarrior 5 жыл бұрын
Aragorn. Eragon is a book about some kid with a dragon
@DoubleADwarf 4 жыл бұрын
THANK you.
@Alknix 4 жыл бұрын
So, Game of Thrones then?
@Shaambum 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how The Mountain was harder to kill and pretty much impossible but the Night King? LOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL
@pranavkulkarni6706 5 жыл бұрын
Mountain is not vulnerable to Valyrian Steel or dragon glass. Mountain was made to feel no pain by Qybern. Hound went head on, without stealth, declaring a duel. Of course it's going to be difficult when it's a match of strength.
@Shaambum 5 жыл бұрын
Pranav Kulkarni Yeah I already got that, my comment was comical with intentional lack of detail due to whats been of season 8 lately; along with the fact that there should have been prolonged screen time for killing the night king imo that way the satisfaction of his death could have been greater.
@pranavkulkarni6706 5 жыл бұрын
@@Shaambum it was alright in my opinion. People would have had a problem no matter how he would have died. A prolonged battle with the Azor Ahai and finally killing the Night King like how the mountain kills Oberyn Martell would've been fan service. The show has a strong history of not giving the fans what they want. No reason why that should be so surprising now.
@Shaambum 5 жыл бұрын
Pranav Kulkarni it’s true they never do thats why i kind of already knew Daenayrs wouldn’t have the journey we all wanted as thats just too much of a happy ending. Its not surprising. To be honest I wasn’t that disappointed by how the death of the NK played out, I just think it could have been a little more prolonged thats all.
@pranavkulkarni6706 5 жыл бұрын
@@Shaambum lol I can go all you're wrong hurr durr but I'll take the high road since you did too. I've had some mad debates about the episodes 😅 I was satisfied with the 3rd episode but the 4 one was garbage.
@williamparks867 5 жыл бұрын
The actors did a good job it was the writer's and producers who dropped the ball
@finnfeaver1196 5 жыл бұрын
nah the actors were not that great, we didnt spend any time with them to actually see them act. Tey were all just looking terrified.
@abnormallynormal8823 5 жыл бұрын
Finn Feaver I mean why you get a script that I’m sure just said *a battle ensues* and a director that just yelled “YES BE SCARED YOURE GONNE BE OVER RUN AND DIE YOURE TERRIFIED” what else can ya do?
@jeupater1429 5 жыл бұрын
they could've redeemed 8-3 with one small edit. Just as the NK catches Arya, Bran grabs NK's by the arm. Then Arya finishes him. That would've changed everything. It wouldn't be the best resolution, don't get me wrong, but it at least wouldn't be the sack of sh!t it currently is.
@snuffcarl 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeupater1429 mmm just like very small additions in ep 4 could have stopped the ball at least one inch from the floor
@shannonbalogh6168 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the actors works very hard they did a great job working out in the cold for all those nights I think the actors deserve some recognition
@juggernaut7570 3 жыл бұрын
I always like to remind everyone that Arya is literally the worst choice for killing Night King, because she is the only one person who isn't there thanks to John. Even if a random soldier killed Night King, would at least in a small way be a John doing. gg wp D&D
@devmarceadventures77 5 жыл бұрын
D&D ruined game of thrones :(
@chrismassalas 5 жыл бұрын
D&D ruined it all. D&D betrayed us all. D&D failed them all!
@elgatochurro 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrismassalas ???????????
@RachelG1979 4 жыл бұрын
And their careers I would imagine. They were already let go from doing star wars because they knew it was gonna bomb because no one is interested in seeing their 'work' anymore.
@commanderosis435 5 жыл бұрын
I went from chomping at the bit for every episode and waiting anxiously for two years to not caring in about ten minutes. That's really impressive honestly.
@princecharming69 5 жыл бұрын
My sentiment exactly. The last 3 episodes don't even feel important to me
@commanderosis435 5 жыл бұрын
@@princecharming69 the whole point was to show how pointless all the power struggles were. The night King is the main antagonist. Not cersei. Cersei is just a secondary annoyance by comparison. Fuck these writers. They made the night King a joke.
@jesperburns 5 жыл бұрын
I admire you for being able to stay invested for that long. I starting tuning out halfway through season 4, season 5 being the nail on the head. I just watch it now to laugh at their incompetence.
@Grandmaster-Kush 5 жыл бұрын
Havent watched EP4 yet, don't feel like it now
@Recuper8 5 жыл бұрын
@@Grandmaster-Kush It's much worse. If you can believe that.
@psychoboyjack285 5 жыл бұрын
going from Martin Scorcese to Michael Bay in 3 seasons.
@ianb8885 5 жыл бұрын
going from Quentin Tarantino to Tommy Wiseau in 3 seasons.
@snuffcarl 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! Sad but true.
@notsansastark2541 5 жыл бұрын
Ian B tommy wiseau 😂😂😂😂😂😂 “Oh hi jon”
@anja1627 5 жыл бұрын
Ian B HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@afterworkart 5 жыл бұрын
Its funny because it's true
@vargwolf7208 5 жыл бұрын
A only word for define the season: "DISAPPOINTING"
@CHIL2903 5 жыл бұрын
It worked in LotR because Tolkien actually finished the books!
@kim7990 3 жыл бұрын
Well GRRM gave them guidance too but because they want it to end fast because Dumb&Dumber want to work on the new Star Wars Trilogy and now they work for Disney. They're being ignorant and vacant headed idiots
@benghiskahn3673 5 жыл бұрын
Remember when George Lucas had R2D2 kill Darth Vader at the start of RotJ just to subvert the audiences expectations? Me neither.
@aleksander8497 5 жыл бұрын
Arya is R2D2 to me. Good analogy.
@finsfan90 5 жыл бұрын
Kamal ThataTurk Pretty fucking funny trying to imagine that playing out lmao.
@Zett76 5 жыл бұрын
Well, Benioff may be allowed to reboot the SW series soon, and already noted your suggestion...
@chuckchuckerson5364 5 жыл бұрын
Remember when George Lucas ruined the entire franchise with episodes 1-3? The original Star Wars were only good because of George Lucas being on a leash.
@EdgarthenaturalJimenez 5 жыл бұрын
Revenge of the Sith was good. I think 1 and 2 are shit.
@imperialmovo 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Azor Ahai was the friendship we all made along the way
@PSASitch 5 жыл бұрын
*ANIME MUSIC PLAYS LOUDLY*
@leandrochenque 5 жыл бұрын
On a cruise. We are!
@MoriMemento117 5 жыл бұрын
Mind = Blown.
@jackh9708 5 жыл бұрын
nah they said there would be snacks and booze
@ferrusmanus4013 5 жыл бұрын
Perfection. Maybe the good guys can have a dinner together at king,'s landing in the end!
@anikakulkarni5386 5 жыл бұрын
And what was Melissandre's character for? To provide as a light source for the Battle of Winterfell?😐
@loveyastillthen8994 5 жыл бұрын
And give Arya a pep talk
@niahoad 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah she is a lighter
@TheStapleGunKid 4 жыл бұрын
Also if she can light weapons on fire, why can't she just light the enemy troops on fire?
@patrickgogan3517 4 жыл бұрын
@John F i cant believe some are defending the illogical writing
@doofkos 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickgogan3517, but there is some kind of logic. Somehow the Wights are no longer flammable. Poor dead Ned Umber was still highly flammable. But when they smothered the flames in the burning trnech with their once highly flammable bodies, I knew that Melisandre would not be of much help, if she would light them. They have also boosted their strength and could break through stone. Before that they could be imprissond in a wooden box... In D&D's minds this _is_ logic.
@romanbellic9129 5 жыл бұрын
Drogon is Azor Ahai. He flew to another world to burn the producers.
@loveyastillthen8994 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. No jury will convict Drogon for this.
@chrismassalas 5 жыл бұрын
Please do so! They are on my list too... D&D
@natasha4640 5 жыл бұрын
yes😀😀😀🙏🐉🔥
@devinharp4321 5 жыл бұрын
The death of cersei should've been season 7 when dany had an army and 3 dragon and this SEASON SHOULD'VE BEEN THE NIGHT KING SEASON THE GREAT WAR SEASON
@santhoshsan9958 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@tgolobic94 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! It always felt like too little time for a good resolution of the NK threat.. But they solved it the easy way. :( Can't wait for the book..
@johnnysopals 5 жыл бұрын
nah i think the other way around, because the whole point is who ends up on the iron throne, and it was never going to be the night king, but they should of made the battle for against night king the whole of season 7 and then boom more time for season 8 to really see who ends up with the throne, but i guess that hows the books goes.
@Brokokush 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree but sadly the show is called Game of thrones and not The Winter wars.
@devinharp4321 5 жыл бұрын
Dumb and Dumber oh we planned arya killing the night king for 3 seasons now OH THAT BULLSHIT STORYWISE IT SHOULD'VE BEEN JON THAT KILLED THE NIGHT KING. AND ALOT OF HUGE NAME CHARACTERS SHOULDVE DIED ESPECIALLY SAM
@stefanodisperati1391 5 жыл бұрын
S1: winter is coming S2: winter is coming S3: winter is coming S4: winter is cooming! S5: winter is coooming!!! S6: winter is coooominnggg!!! S7: winter is coooooominggg!!!!! S8: winter is here, and it's gone, bottoms up, let's move on
@Vlad-qu5mt 5 жыл бұрын
Benioff and Weiss kept on diverging from the books and also were trying increasingly more to write the story in order to please the audience rather than to follow to coherent plot laid out since the start. Sadly you can see this increasing with each episode of seasons seven and eight. It's kind of sad because the producers choked at the end when they had all the resources required in order to deliver (funds, directors, and actors)... D&D did their best not to kill off favorite characters to avoid disappointing some of the audience, in the end, it feels fake in GOT standards. D&D should have tried at all costs to remain coherent with the narrative laid out since the onset (which comes from the books). Put differently it feels like after reading the first four books you got to read Winds of Winter written this time by completely other authors...
@mehdiabounnahr1414 5 жыл бұрын
actually winter as a season is still here dumb-dumb
@arsenioibay414 5 жыл бұрын
Then by all mean, yes, please do.
@LP00768 5 жыл бұрын
I feel this whole seaeon should be vs the night king and a season 9 for the king landing storyline
@nguyenthiphuonganh 5 жыл бұрын
Stefano Disperati just because those shithead writers wanted to be smarter than KZfaq GOT THEORISTS.
@chrismassalas 5 жыл бұрын
In the end it's The Game Of Nothing. Nonsense piled up week after week. Biggest betrayal of D&D to millions of loyal fans after 9 years. SHAME!
@nathangehman7018 5 жыл бұрын
AragoRRRRRn. Not Eragon, AragoRn. The R is important.
@Rattenhoofd 5 жыл бұрын
That's probably just his dialect or accent. I'm pretty sure he knows how the name is spelled.
@HarrysBaby 5 жыл бұрын
Was scrolling through specifically to find this correction. Thank you 🙏🏻
@Keldroc 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rattenhoofd He isn't a non-rhotic speaker with any other word in the video. He just doesn't know the name of one of the major characters in the grandfather of all fantasy literature, no big.
@nathangehman7018 5 жыл бұрын
@@HarrysBaby I'm glad someone was as bothered by this as I was... I think. Is that like wishing ill-things upon someone else? I don't know.
@HarrysBaby 5 жыл бұрын
Nathan Gehman I think it’s more just being a huge LOTR fan and wanting things said correctly 🙈 and making sure that you weren’t the only one to notice haha
@MsK4YY 5 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile there is Samwell, a character that spent the whole time crying on the floor, survives just to tell us that he's retiring with his pregnant girlfriend. What a hero. /sarcasm
@balabanasireti 5 жыл бұрын
Mia I really like Sam but damn... do I hate his plot armor.
@PhongPham-lt7rr 5 жыл бұрын
he's a pussy now
@OmaOmaO 5 жыл бұрын
@@balabanasireti he doesn't really have plot armor... he could've died in that battle and changed nothing. xD
@beautifullEternal 5 жыл бұрын
Phong Pham he always was
@vayman666 5 жыл бұрын
not everyone has to be a hero. some people just save their skin and honestly, that's what i would do
@peacorptv6502 5 жыл бұрын
Theon also could be Azor Ahai, because he's from the Iron Islands, he was born in: "salt and sea". But you're way was so much better.
@chrismassalas 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter. D&D have ruined it. Screwed it. Blew it completely!!
@MiguelLopez-yc2rh 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the biggest flaw of Game of thrones series was that apart from not having a great book material from GRR Martin to continue developping the story for the last seasons, the writers simplified the entire story in less than a season. It looked very accelerated (almost like they just wanted to finishing it soon instead of selling you TV show final episodes).
@RamB0T 5 жыл бұрын
Can we just edit together a brand new season? There's got to be enough footage from all the seasons to fix this mess ✔
@j.p.1370 5 жыл бұрын
I'm legitimately just going to pretend that this season was a vision that Bran had of a possible future, and I'm going to write my own scripts about how it ended and consider it canon. Because this is like watching bad fan fiction as it is. No way can mine be worse.
@eh8484 5 жыл бұрын
RamB0T dude! Yeah!! There’s gotta be sone way to improve it.
@palacsinta6622 5 жыл бұрын
My firm opinion is that film makers should listen to fans when they write storylines. Multiple people are smarter than just two, especially when the show is this big with so many characters and character arcs. But nooooooope they had to try to be the smart guy. Spoiler alert: it hasn't worked out well so far.
@happygrass5 5 жыл бұрын
i hope when George R. R. Martin finishes his book he ends it the way he wanted to.
@topquark35 5 жыл бұрын
I wish the real plot twist is that they are just pulling our leg and there is a better final season written by really good writers. Oh, boy.
@tilmerkan3882 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, D&D THAT IS the way you get people to read the books.
@spacehooliganzack7429 5 жыл бұрын
I was never planning on reading the books, figuring that I'd get everything I needed out of the show and going back through the same plotlines would just be tedious. Then season 8 started airing and suddenly I'm very excited to go read the books so I can get back to what I love most about game of thrones: well planned stories with well developed characters
@joeybulford5266 5 жыл бұрын
Til Merkan I think they just inspired George to actually finish them.
@jaime8318 5 жыл бұрын
@@joeybulford5266 or they gave George a heart attack after watching that and now he'll never be able to finish the books.
@snorcutter 5 жыл бұрын
@@spacehooliganzack7429 They are great, you wont be disappointed.
@rizh5889 5 жыл бұрын
FUCK THE BOOKS! I don't really hate the books, but you fuckong low-life nerds are getting on my nerves
@CaptJosmy 5 жыл бұрын
15:55 I would have been WAY more satisfied if Theon had been the one to kill the Night King while he was strangling Arya. Heck, it could even potentially explain WHY she decided to scream when she was trying to do a sneak attack - it could have been her plan to distract him and give Theon an opening, if she had somehow noticed he was still alive and could do it. Heck, anything rather than her killing him in the name of fanservice. I still believe Dany and Jon should have been the ones involved with his death, but if you gotta keep Arya there, then do this.
@LINKchris87 5 жыл бұрын
I'd pay to see a GoT remake when A Song Of Ice And Fire is actually finished. And each season having its proper name. Clash Of Kings. Storm of Swords. Fast for Crows. And so on.
@petew.7870 5 жыл бұрын
Thai Corralo Vigo ...and **at least** twelve episodes per season!!!
@Zek_Ken 5 жыл бұрын
Credit to whoever posted this comment elsewhere, but killing the Night King in one episode would have been like Gimli smashing the ring with his ax in Rivendell.
@Lilitha11 5 жыл бұрын
The white walkers not even fighting would be like ringwraiths never fought. They are basically the same thing as the white walkers, the generals and body guard sort of thing.
@matth1589 5 жыл бұрын
No, you have to get right to the end before you make large sections of the plot pointless. So, instead of Gollum stealing the Ring and falling into the lava, Galadriel appears out of nowhere, "I'll take that Frodo. You were right. I should have taken the responsibility, rather than leaving it to some poor mortal with no way to protect himself." Gollum, tries to steal the ring. Galadriel immediately disables him and she casually tosses the ring into the fires of Mount Doom. She then teleports everyone to safety. Divorces her husband, whose lack of confidence in her had stopped her from taking the Ring in the first place, cock punts Aragorn and rules the world with Arwen and Éowyn as a polyamorous family. Everybody lives happily ever after.
@mdmyer 5 жыл бұрын
Killing him in one episode could have worked, if it wasn't such an anti-climactic battle? Literally took 5 seconds from when Arya attacked him to him dying. He definitely died like a bitch.
@PowerofRock24 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, I think that was my comment from another video! Probably on Mauler's channel. I think I said it is like Gimli smashing the ring in Rivendell and Denethor is the final boss xD I don't know, it might have been or someone has the same mind as me. I have been watching videos of this season all week trying to make sense of it all to no avail.
@davemccombs 5 жыл бұрын
No.
@mikewazowski8793 5 жыл бұрын
If Cersei is really dead we waited 10 years for the 3rd most hated TV character to die to a ceiling
@secondchance6603 5 жыл бұрын
She brought the house down with that ending.
@niahoad 5 жыл бұрын
I hate her character but that death was unworthy. Her whole arc was staring out of a window for this season
@thegang9348 4 жыл бұрын
Ceiling was the best character in the series. Killed cercie lannister who was basically the main villain since the night king died so quickly. The ceiling is my favourite character ever.
@SagarsDeck 3 жыл бұрын
Who are the first two characters that you hate more than Cersei??
@DaveEllen967 3 жыл бұрын
@@SagarsDeck Joffrey and Ramsay
@1024det 5 жыл бұрын
Best GoT finale critique ive seen so far. This guy came up with a better story in a 20 min video than D&D could ever come up with.
@allornothing432 3 жыл бұрын
Who? Where?
@arjl880 2 жыл бұрын
Your idea of having Theon kill the Night king would've actually worked really well for all the reasons you mentioned...plus the last conversation between Jon and Theon, when he declared him a Stark and said that part has never left him. Full blown redemption, especially had it happened as you suggested, saving Jon after a more appropriate one v one vs the Night king.
@randomrandom450 5 жыл бұрын
The dotrakis "decimated" yet they seems like thousands in episode 5
@sterkar99 5 жыл бұрын
They might had been like 50 TBH and anyways I'm glad they are here. They fixed their stupid mistake from episode 3
@TCS4680 5 жыл бұрын
Decimated means to kill one out of ten...which would mean that nine out of ten are still alive. Not that I disagree that common sense was sacrificed for the purposes of a good visual, but words do have meanings.
@VenomOnPC 5 жыл бұрын
TCS4680 True. Words do have meanings. Sometimes some words have multiple meanings such as decimate. It also means to destroy a large portion (which is applicable to the context used in the original comment). Most recently another definition is to completely wipe out, but that’s not important seen as episode 5 proves the dothraki situation is best described by the second meaning of the word I listed.
@aszthrotep4632 5 жыл бұрын
@Knasterreal1 no only a few survived, those that came back. all dothrakis was used in the initial charged since they are an cavalry unit, they dont fight on foot. also when they pan the cam above winterfell almost no defenders left at all.
@sanantonio855 5 жыл бұрын
meanwhile the 20,000 soldiers of the golden company were about 250
@wtsang1 5 жыл бұрын
Even winter in Egypt lasted longer than In GOT
@Symbol-Of-Peace 5 жыл бұрын
I can personally attest to that.
@juliogu5437 5 жыл бұрын
It was the nk Who brought the winter
@purplereign2255 5 жыл бұрын
You realize just cuz the NK is dead doesn't mean winter is over
@aliberketozlu8977 5 жыл бұрын
@@juliogu5437 You should go to school
@DoctorSakr 5 жыл бұрын
Egypt: seven months winter Westeros: seven episodes winter
@egoist920 5 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think that _a certain author_ is waiting for all these discussions about what would have been the best possible plot and then just picks the parts that he likes best and then writes them down. At least that'd mean he'd continue within this century.
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 5 жыл бұрын
Dude it’s Aragorn not ERAGON. That’s a completely different series and main character.
@hotemotoaster8712 5 жыл бұрын
GOT: our battle scenes are longer than yours LOTR: *at least we can see ours*
@OnigoroshiZero 5 жыл бұрын
How can you even compare LOTR with this shit, you should be ashamed.
@aydict 5 жыл бұрын
Also LOTR : atleast ours are good and make sense
@hotemotoaster8712 5 жыл бұрын
@@OnigoroshiZero your right I apologize
@equivalentexchangeisalie5726 5 жыл бұрын
@@hotemotoaster8712 You literally apologized. I can't 😂😂😂 But I would have done the same lmao
@marlom7882 5 жыл бұрын
Creepy Freek oooohhhhh!
@FriScooby 5 жыл бұрын
16:46 Night King: "No man can kill me" Theon: "I am no man"
@estherjohnson6019 5 жыл бұрын
I understood that reference😂
@NaturalGallantBodybuilding 5 жыл бұрын
lol, hilarious. Love it. HA!
@nicknevco215 5 жыл бұрын
I remember that from another series
@lastbutfirst266 5 жыл бұрын
That would had been great or have Cerise rule as queen of the ashes and final shot with her sitting on the throne like the ending of Conan.
@XNaturalPhenomenonX 5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow.
@TristanG10.000 5 жыл бұрын
"is a pretty big step down" *falls from the upper atmosphere*
@stick-itproductions.3307 4 жыл бұрын
I mean... Even Anakin and Obiwan in Ep.3 had more of a conflict beyond just whacking glow sticks together.
@kingdancekiller 5 жыл бұрын
Okay I know I’m triple-dipping on comments here. But I also wanted Theon to kill the NK. I legit thought that Theon would use his extreme pain tolerance developed as Reek to pull the spear out of him and kill the NK from behind. Ramsay would have inadvertently saved the world because of the carnage he inflicted on Theon. Nice.
@neriumsuitedher 5 жыл бұрын
:O Ramsay was Azor Ahai and The Prince who was Promised and Theon is Lightbringer!
@Rundra 5 жыл бұрын
I thought Bran would warg into him to make him ignore pain and live just long enough to backstab the NK. Also, Arya survived a similar wound just fine, inflicted by the Waif. Arya also happened to kill the NK out of nowhere. HMMMMMM.
@jeupater1429 5 жыл бұрын
That would've really cool actually. Another easy way they could've redeemed 8-3 with one small edit is ... Just as the NK catches Arya, Bran grabs NK by the arm. (mimicking him) Then Arya finishes him. That would've changed everything. It wouldn't be the best resolution, don't get me wrong, but it at least wouldn't be the sack of sh!t it currently is.
@0oOSTFUOo0 5 жыл бұрын
Me too, it would've fit Theon's character well to at least get up again once more
@JiZz2Xtreme 5 жыл бұрын
yea me too actually.. thought was gonna get up after that stab for one last attempt
@NewNormalWorldOrder 5 жыл бұрын
What did Arya jump off of? Literally nothing.
@jmarino09 5 жыл бұрын
Dragon threw her. Duh?
@pitsahat2 5 жыл бұрын
She can teleport
@DeathToMonday 5 жыл бұрын
One of the shit loads of trees in the godswood.
@aivreescend7945 5 жыл бұрын
A frickin metal podium, no really.
@telamere2043 5 жыл бұрын
Probably made a mini trampoline out of walder Frey's stretched face.
@davididiart5934 5 жыл бұрын
Alternate way this could have gone? The Night King throws away a couple ten thousand undead to take Winterfel...while he marches south to take everything else. Why assault an entrenched and prepared enemy when you can devour the entire rest of the kingdoms who are unaware and not armed with weapons that can hurt you?
@haziq12ish 4 жыл бұрын
Wanted this so badly
@jenniperkins4260 3 жыл бұрын
I get the tragedy theme and Dany being killed - but they didn’t build up to her going mad and killing the innocent ppl was completely pointless - as well as Jamie returning only to be killed by bricks 🧱
@mistereggx8202 5 жыл бұрын
in the latest episode: | | V arya rides through the whole continent to kill the Queen.. and just.. leaves.. after the Hound told her to. ?????
@sterkar99 5 жыл бұрын
She was too late
@minipie9175 5 жыл бұрын
If she killed the queen she’d die to.
@minipie9175 5 жыл бұрын
She realized that she didn’t want to be the hound, she wanted to be herself. She died anyways lol.
@HasClipz 5 жыл бұрын
Shit doesn't always go to plan that's the hole god damn motive of this season
@YouMakeMyMotorRun 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, everyone knows that whatever Sandor Clegane says will happen, it WILL happen. The Hound has never been wrong in his predictions before, so I guess Arya decided that, as long as Cersei dies, it's fine by her... keep in mind that some of the names in her list were crossed off before she ever had a say in the matter.
@the_shape_8728 5 жыл бұрын
Dexter: The worst final season of any show ever... Game Of Thrones: Hold my sour goats milk
@rexania9141 5 жыл бұрын
Sean Mulvihill haha, same thoughts ! xD Dexter, gosh that beard! nooo :D
@leninarellano 5 жыл бұрын
GOT: Hold my Giant Milk.
@anassmouradi90 5 жыл бұрын
the end of dexter was awesom
@Soumik.Naskar 5 жыл бұрын
@@anassmouradi90 not the one I watched. Even Dexter himself would come out from wherever he is hiding only to dislike your comment😒
@Pradeepa_Pandiyan 5 жыл бұрын
C'mon.. we all know that's the way Dexter would end since when Deb got to know about Dex... It's a good ending...
@Commander2145Update 5 жыл бұрын
never even got to see the night king fight, the makers suckass. rip hbo
@patrickgogan3517 4 жыл бұрын
Yup their golden age is over
@patrickgogan3517 4 жыл бұрын
@Booper Dooper i highly doubt HBO is going to ever have a show that was this tier again anytime soon (targaryen prequel maybe if it succeeds)
@victoramogu3708 5 жыл бұрын
GoT brotherhood lool definitely caught that anime reference
@4cqker 5 жыл бұрын
It's like if Frodo didn't throw the ring in to Mt. Doom... Pippin did it. And he's not even nearby.
@00Kuja00 5 жыл бұрын
Frodo never did, Gollum fell (divine intervenstion really). But I get your point, I am just a Tolkien nerd and have never watched GoT. :D
@palacsinta6622 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Carnevale I couldn't have put it better lol xDD
@macmcleod1188 5 жыл бұрын
@@00Kuja00 But when Gollum did it, it made sense from the writing and character development before that. Arye had no character arc/emotional stake in this fight. She was the wrong character to kill the NK.
@00Kuja00 5 жыл бұрын
@@macmcleod1188 What do you mean "but"? I never said it was bad writing, I just made a correction what happened at Mt. Doom.
@macmcleod1188 5 жыл бұрын
@@00Kuja00 And in the context of the entire conversation, I said that gollum doing it made sense. It wasn't like pippin appeared from behind a bush and it wasn't like the action didn't follow from what we knew of gollum's character.
@hippiemuslim 5 жыл бұрын
It's extremely cringy to watch the double D's talk about the show.
@vegasgirl3538 5 жыл бұрын
Like how Dany "forgot" Euron's fleet existed? They really are a couple of hacks, aren't they?
@mickboontjes1674 5 жыл бұрын
@@vegasgirl3538 I KNOW, "she forgot about his fleet" the whole point of them going there was to destroy his fleet and surround the city. Nevermind the conversation they had 5 min before that happened about defeating his fleet and starving the town. The fleet was her main enemy "whoopsie I forgot"
@Kittymaehem1 5 жыл бұрын
It’s because of how *EASILY* they *LIE* and think that we’ll just continue to swallow their badly-written *BULLSHIT* !
@pietikke5598 5 жыл бұрын
Yup the real Dumb and Dumber.
@josephneyland7604 5 жыл бұрын
They are clearly deeply satisfied with themselves
@dennisgannon 4 жыл бұрын
So the verdict is in, 99% of those who watched this show, believe D&D screwed it up royally. Anyone could have did it better. Who the hell owns HBO and allowed this?
@ghz24 5 жыл бұрын
The audience does know how Jon knows that killing a white walker kills the wights created by it. He knows from season 7 episode 6 when he kills his second white walker and all the wights attacking his group disintegrate, except( conveniently ) the one they need to take to the south.
@dylandockery8379 5 жыл бұрын
Remember Daenarys' vision of Kings Landing destroyed with snow falling on the capital implying winter destroyed it? Me neither. Edit: Those saying its ashes go watch the scene again there are literally icicles hanging from shit
@idawg7332 5 жыл бұрын
Neither do the showrunners
@rosesongoku6980 5 жыл бұрын
I guess it just represents Jon Snow? I dunno. Maybe Winter isn’t over yet (though I doubt it).
@hardromeo436 5 жыл бұрын
It's almost and if D&D aren't good writers and as soon as they ran out of Martin's source material they drove the show off a cliff
@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher 5 жыл бұрын
D&D certainly didn't.
@tyler4970 5 жыл бұрын
It was vague. Prophecy is weird like that. The two generally accepted theories on this are either it means winter (aka the Night King) destroys the capital, or that Jon Snow sits on the throne. At this point, one clearly is no longer an option. What would be great is for Dany to recall it at some point in the last two episodes and come to the realization of what it meant.
@Ghostwalker2061 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, I'll just say how to fix that premature ending...is to have the Night King divide his forces and take half of it South and screw with Cercei, which was something I wanted to see, but was disappointed that wasn't what happened.
@Peteruspl 5 жыл бұрын
It would make perfect sense to just put a siege on Winterfell and march south. As long as dead have something to counter dragons (those javelins from s6 + constant cloudy blizzard spell could work) they have no reason to assault the walls where they can be killed 1000 zombies for one dude on a wall. All the while living would never meet them in the field, staying mostly in the castle with only some raids out. This is what I think happens in the books. Winterfell has a year long siege with different magical or covert dangers, while defenders also try to somehow get to the whites to break siege. Supplies will not last them for whole winter. Meanwhile main force of the dead attacks unprepared (ravaged by civil wars) south.
@ephidel285 5 жыл бұрын
Probably have a single Wight left behind to capture Bran as the general of the undead force while the Night King and the rest go south. Wouldn't be that bad if it was that Wight that killed Theon or was killed by Arya. Cercie has ballistae for live dragons, but it would have been nice to see them used uselessly on the Night King's dragon.
@SultanOfAwesomeness 5 жыл бұрын
Ghostwalker2061 better yet, as Doomcock said, he should’ve bypassed Winterfell completely. That would’ve been ‘subverting expectations’ in a good way. We would’ve been expecting a giant throwdown at winterfell only for the Night king to blitz right past and march down South without so much as a blink in Jon’s direction. The defenders would be thrown into complete confusion as they now have to quickly prepare for a pursuit after literally digging themselves into a defensive hole.
@dontghostbanmeplz8788 5 жыл бұрын
I like that idea... that the episode would end with Jon asking Bran, where is the Night King?
@MoffatLee 5 жыл бұрын
@@SultanOfAwesomeness Especially when you consider the fact that the NK doesn't need castles, towns or other man made structures and/or resources that humans rely on, all he needs is corpses, and there are plenty of them to be found down south.
@LuDviecH 5 жыл бұрын
You already had me hooked within the First section of the video. But „Brotherhood“ just nailed it!!!!!!!
@enegmatixerebro 5 жыл бұрын
May I direct your attention to the writers of Season 8 X-men Origins Wolverine.... Yeah
@Gerox566 5 жыл бұрын
Really?
@HVBRSoF 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gerox566 Yep. He wrote that garbage.
@noahscott0224 5 жыл бұрын
"Does that mean Dany's crazy too?" Episode 5: hmmm
@elbizzle355 5 жыл бұрын
Noah Scott yes
@kylesheehan9930 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@lioneldave 5 жыл бұрын
@@PombaAbusada jesus christ😂
@shrimpscampin 5 жыл бұрын
@@PombaAbusada 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@vorthora 5 жыл бұрын
Dumb and Dumber really wrecked the show. If I were RR Martin, I'd be depressed.
@kellywcheng 5 жыл бұрын
Mary Hill he is depressed. He says he wished there were more seasons 😢
@mohmoony3918 5 жыл бұрын
It's a crying shame that fans can put more thought into the story line in 25 minutes, than D&D did in 2 years.
@vorthora 5 жыл бұрын
@0Riam0 I see your point...
@vorthora 5 жыл бұрын
@@aura2367 I completely understand.
@tudor3232 5 жыл бұрын
Ýou have a BIG EGO madam and you need to wake up to reality!!! What qualifies you to say about Dan and David,the are dumb and dumber!? Just because your EGO was not full filled,it dosen't mean that season 8 is not brilliant!
@colonelcider8292 5 жыл бұрын
bro unfortunately it's impossible for me to watch a show and turn my brain off. I do like brainless shows when the events make sense
@chrismassalas 5 жыл бұрын
I will never watch anything from D&D ever again.
@fightingmedialounge519 3 жыл бұрын
That's a contradiction cider.
@colonelcider8292 3 жыл бұрын
@@fightingmedialounge519 Brainless is not the same as chaotic and senseless.
@fightingmedialounge519 3 жыл бұрын
@@colonelcider8292 brainless usually comes with the understanding that whatever is being referred to as such doesn't have much thought put into it and can be easily taken apart.
@NJRanirishnirvana 5 жыл бұрын
"This really shows why the show has gone downhill" I love how the downhill analogy is accompanied by the Tommen jump scene, which for me was probably the best scene out of the last 2/3 seasons.
@quillanjacobson1478 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like George R.R. Martin purposely dogged the real ending to these two to hide the book ending
@joshuabarnard5702 5 жыл бұрын
He already said they'd diverge at some points. And there's no way in hell GRRM figured out who'd defeat the Big Bad and conclude the main plot of his entire series in 2016.
@Marcusjnmc 5 жыл бұрын
is that why so many chapters of the book feature Arya's journey ? it's even more extensive and goes nowhere for even longer than in the show, there's going to be pay off for that, Arya's wolf isn't Shaggydog, George himself has said the major plot points for the ending will be very similar as for the show, that's from the very same quote people draw from when they say 'George said there will be differences' . . . people making up shit & throwing around second hand information like it's fact, it will be done Better in the books, that doesn't mean the big things that occur will actually change. The leader of the White Walkers is Very likely to die to Arya in the books(& ik no leader is revealed yet), that doesn't mean his death will end everything so suddenly as it did in the show, White Walkers are more built up there as a people there & D&D are known to cut out large chunks of things at any opportunity through their time as the GoT showrunners.
@Marcusjnmc 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-xd6yo George himself has made clear there are parts of the show he disagrees with & that the show was cut a lot shorter than it could have & arguably should have been, he's also done things like make a point of releasing a Euron excerpt from the unreleased book to show up show Euron as being sub par shortly following Euron's show appearance, the show is Not faithful to the books & the showrunners pretty categorically have had disagreements with him and gone against his wishes on a number of things, that doesn't mean that he didn't put his best efforts into making it be a faithful representation & being as good as it can possibly be, or that it's not following the major plotpoints he laid down, it's just connecting the dots way too fast & not staying faithful to the journey, there are definite issues, just not the ones people are making of it here.
@wampyrelli 5 жыл бұрын
@@Marcusjnmc The thing about writers like George R. R. Martin or Stephen King is, that they sometimes surprise themselves with what their characters do, because the characters logically react to circumstances. They might have a sketch of what is to happen, but if it doesn't make sense even though they want the story to go certain way, they'll diverge from the initial plan.
@lasse4416 5 жыл бұрын
That would be genius move!
@piggypoo 5 жыл бұрын
Having Bran hold the NK in place while everyone has to sadly leave, watch Bran disspear into the distance, and knowing that Bran will just eventually free to death is actually something that would have been heart-wrenchingly amazing.
@OmegaZyion 5 жыл бұрын
Which does bring up a problem when you think about Sitch's changes. If Bran sacrificed himself, that would mean the Night King would gain his powers. It would be a rather bad corner that the writers would have to get themselves out of considering how powerful Bran's abilities are. Being able to be anywhere at any time means that it is impossible to have a proper strategy meeting without the enemy knowing your tactics.
@BlueSun_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@OmegaZyion Also if the Night King is frozen in place why can't Jon just cut his head off?
@pitsahat2 5 жыл бұрын
And he should have said "door held"
@krissuyx 5 жыл бұрын
I mean... It would be heart-wrenching if Bran was still Bran and not an emotionless robot. As far as I'm concerned, Bran died the moment he became the Three Eyed Raven.
@Philipp95 5 жыл бұрын
GOT S8: Well I went down very fast. Voltron Legendary Defenders S8: Hold my beer.
@fearlv1rattata 5 жыл бұрын
In the episode recap of The Long Night they said "this is essentially the end of the dothraki" yet they show right back up in episode 5 to storm king's landing.
@BundySloth 5 жыл бұрын
Bran: Use powers to reveal Cersei's battle plans? Nah, wheel chair lore.
@jaimelock3966 5 жыл бұрын
Big bwain
@BundySloth 5 жыл бұрын
@O-Ren Ishii Bruh, he didn't need to see in the future all he had to do was fly some fucking ravens down to kings landing, and eaves drop, or spot the iron fleet sporting scorpions.
@TheAlps36 5 жыл бұрын
But I can tell you about Hodor's backstory and how Ned Stark and Lysa Arryn were both betrayed and who Jon Snow really is. Is that important for you to know?
@chaitanya252525 5 жыл бұрын
Bran is selfish. He only cared about himself not getting killed by NK. That is why he helped in that battle.
@alphabravo8998 5 жыл бұрын
He's not bran he's the three eyed Raven his entire purpose is to stay out of politics he tells Jon he's egon tagerayan because it gives him drive to fight the night king etc whatever his number one rule is not to get involved in anything else so that's why he didn't do that
@user-ns3vs3bp3e 5 жыл бұрын
Entire show builds on “the iron throne doesn’t matter” D&D “we should totally make season 8 end focusing on the throne” Genius!
@fast.food.ninjalarry954 5 жыл бұрын
@@niefali It wasnt for him it was Life or Death !!!
@user-ns3vs3bp3e 5 жыл бұрын
niefali literally the opening shot of the show is the walkers, the political stuff was fantastic but the point was that people were focused on that throne and they were wrong to do so due to the bigger threat. Then we have the big realisation in season 7 that the walkers are the real threat and who sits on the throne isn’t important... than D&D decided to beat the WW in a single episode and undo all the work put in focusing on how the throne wasn’t the real important thing
@cigh7445 5 жыл бұрын
Game of Thrones baby. It's all about the throne.
@user-ns3vs3bp3e 5 жыл бұрын
niefali my point is D&D are shit at writing so I’ll take they are crap at planning out the season as a win 😂 I really don’t understand why they would make it a shorter season, you make more money by stretching it out but they condensed it ruining the story and making hbo less cash...
@cedricbailly100 5 жыл бұрын
@@cigh7445 Well it's more like "A Song Of Ice And Fire" so it's not entirely about "who's gonna sit on the throne". Fantasy and darkness take a huge part in the story and constructed some of the important character (Bran, Jon, Daenerys, Jorah, even Arya with that swaping of face/voice/size/body?) The throne is important and a cool story but this is not the only one, and it's hard to believe that anyone would fucking care about fighting for the throne after fighting an army of dead people... You have to give them a purpose to do so, and the only way was to keep the NK alive till he marchs on Kings Landing
@johndavidr 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly the Long Night was such an underwhelming episode. I cared more about the ending to the White Walkers than Danys. Hopefully they don’t fuck it up 2/2.
@Real_vanGogh 5 жыл бұрын
To add on to the part where you mentioned that the night king being portrayed as just a force of nature is exactly my problem with most Western movies (of course there are a few exceptions). In contrary to Japanese anime where the antagonist always has a good story behind it or motivation why he/she became a "bad guy". Sometimes it goes so in depth that you'll even root for the antagonist. It makes a story much more interesting in my point of view.
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