Columbia Artist and Picture Labels
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Backplates on 78rpm Records
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@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack 2 сағат бұрын
Oh wow - Plymouth Indiana! I live just north of there in South Bend. Been to Plymouth many times. I would have never guessed they would have had a recording studio there or even had a college past or present. It's not a big town, just a farming town with only 10k people. Would have been even less in the 1920's and 1930's. I should go thrifting in Plymouth, probably too late now to find any 78's in this day and age though.
@kaecake9575
@kaecake9575 2 күн бұрын
So awesome. These artists are my heroes 👍
@notmanatee2445
@notmanatee2445 4 күн бұрын
Explain to me why little wonders LPs arent for kids?
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip 4 күн бұрын
Because the music was intended for adults. The reason people think they are for kids is because of the size of the disc and the fact they had the little kid on some of the labels. There ARE small kids records from that era (Cameo made some) but the content of those discs is clearly for kids. Little wonders are usually just shortened versions of regular Columbia releases are were marketed to grown-ups.
@56ghostwriter
@56ghostwriter 6 күн бұрын
I would love to start collecting 78's again. I had a small but fun collection back in the 90's, but had to liquidate when my mom died and I had to sell the family home. Still love those things and would love to get a player too, but not sure how to get started again. I do have my collection on cassette tape at least.
@johnfalstaff2270
@johnfalstaff2270 19 күн бұрын
At 6:50, it is not Enrico Caruso, but an Irish famous tenor John McCormack.
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack 20 күн бұрын
Wow I can't believe someone sold their entire garage and left perfectly good records behind
@cynthiaquinn590
@cynthiaquinn590 21 күн бұрын
😂you broke that record funny🤭
@cynthiaquinn590
@cynthiaquinn590 21 күн бұрын
I don't like stickers on 45s either💔😥
@gordonteats298
@gordonteats298 22 күн бұрын
Praise JESUS
@td3993
@td3993 23 күн бұрын
Glad you aren't just tossing the rejects. I started out on mostly trash before I was a teenager. Now, almost 45, I am rather picky. I also love many of Fred Waring's early 30s records. Some of them are actually in "hi-fi." Victor phased this out because the high frequencies wore out too quickly. I also love early 40s Gene Krupa, especially with Anita O'Day. Killer drums, killer band. Also plenty of good sweet tunes from the band.
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack 24 күн бұрын
It's amazing when you look at what is out there in the world at how little that museums actually have. I never would have knew about these.
@GreatBasinCarShops
@GreatBasinCarShops 25 күн бұрын
Your history is way off! All of the parks were owned and operated by the national park service. Utah Parks company was merely a concessionaire that ran the transportation and lodgings because that is outside of the purview of the park service. Xanterra is the concessionaire in many of the western parks like grand canyon today.
@ThePhonographStop
@ThePhonographStop 25 күн бұрын
Nicely explained! Thanks for the great video!
@justsam52
@justsam52 Ай бұрын
Charlie Patton wrote a song about my grandfather called the Tom Rushen Blues. He would give him rides to different honks while my grandfather emptied his juke boxes which had 78's. I still have a box of them. They are really fragile. Anyway, good site. Glad I stumbled on it. Just Sam
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack Ай бұрын
00:34 thank you for saying this. there's so much snobbishness, elitism, and gatekeeping in the record collecting community it's unreal. they think it's their own playground for the rich and nobody else can participate. im a new collector too and people like that are exceptionally unhelpful and just turns people off from the hobby. i avoid entire forums because of people like that who are allowed to exist there unpunished.
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack Ай бұрын
This is not unlike what rich techies will do today when some new gizmo comes out. Make some deliberately expensive electronic gizmo just for some mundane invitation or party gift to flaunt how rich they are. "People never change, only time does."
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack Ай бұрын
I can smell this video! It smells like mildew and lacquer!
@vincentpotter4191
@vincentpotter4191 Ай бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you for making this channel. I recently went on a massive collecting trip going through hundreds of 78s. Without watching your videos i wouldn’t have known what i was looking at when i found little wonders or Edison red stars. Seriously doing great work here man
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip Ай бұрын
Thank you so much, Vincent. That means a lot. I have been out on the road for over a month. (ARSC conference, multiple presentations, picking up multiple collections, etc...) and it's about time to start punching out some new video! What did you find on your collecting trip??
@vincentpotter4191
@vincentpotter4191 Ай бұрын
@@MarkAtnip nice! Some great stuff the lady worked in managing estate sales and was retiring she had hundreds of 78s of every genre. I found a Charlie Poole record, 15 Riley Pucketts, 10 gid tanner and the skillet lickers including hand me down my walking cane the first record they cut, some Jimmie Rodger’s including in the jailhouse now, blue ridge high ballers, a weird song in support of Al smith for president since he’d repeal prohibition by the Carolina nighthawks,some home recordings of early 50s slide guitar, a Soviet record, bill monroe, sales ads they’d play over the loudspeakers in Montgomery Ward, Ernest tubb, Roy acuff, lots of Carter family, a shellac party record and some little wonders. She didn’t seem to care about any of it. Gave her 200 bucks for just over a hundred records. I help out at the folklore center in my city. We’re sorting through the collection and are probably gonna make some kind of release of the best stuff and have them on file for our listening parties. There’s a good tight knit group of folk nerds who are passionate about this stuff here
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack Ай бұрын
My suggestion on finding out these businesses would be to take a guess at an approximate year to start, and then look for a city directory for that year, and find the business, get the address, then plug that into google and see if you can turn up some newspaper archive hits. And try and think of words that were used in the period when doing OCR searches.
@yvesfrancoisritmo
@yvesfrancoisritmo Ай бұрын
Sambas - better if Brazilian recordings over American dance band collectors (Mambo's are another one, but jazz bands playing them are good). Thin RCA Vinyl - have a Hot Lips Page Let Me In - very cool Herbie Fields is ok, the Savoy's are better jazz. Cugat earlier Victor's are not bad, like the Congas, and if Miguleto Valdez is singing it is worth it. Too bad the swing bands are in poor shape. I still enjoy them, Kay Starr is one of the best of the 1945-55 era singers. I've been through this a hundred times myself - and yes this is a common batch of recordings. Rex Stewart Big 8 would be the one I would buy of all these. Finally - great information
@chrislowe1267
@chrislowe1267 Ай бұрын
Do you have any videos that go into grading? It would be nice to see what makes what and examples of sound, because it seems so subjective . What one person says ruins the sound another may say isnt intrusive.
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip Ай бұрын
I would like to do a grading video but I haven't figured out how, if that makes sense. There are so many variables, and different collectors use different systems. Some people grade the record as a whole, some grade the condition of the grooves and then list any damage (which is my preferred way of doing things) but there is no agreement from one collector to another on how it "should" be done.
@JaneManske
@JaneManske Ай бұрын
I recently found a couple1909 Little Wonders. Do they need a special needle to play them? I have heard our newer needles get ruined by old 78's
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip Ай бұрын
They will play a lot better with a 78rpm needle (2.5 mil) as opposed to a normal microgroove (33/45rpm) stylus. As to whether it will ruin them or not... it will indeed wear out a 33rpm needle faster, but playing a few isn't going to damage or wear the diamond enough to cause a problem unless you are using a REALLY high-end system. (and you have really good hearing) If you have something to play them on, then play them and see if you like them! Let us know what you find out! If you decide you want to play them regularly then seeking out a 78rpm stylus shouldn't be too hard.
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack Ай бұрын
All you need is any record player that has a diamond-tipped stylus for 78's, or that can accommodate one. Shellac is more abrasive than vinyl and it can file down softer needle materials. My Emerson Multiplex stereo from the 1970's has one of these special styluses and it has no trouble playing shellac 78's.
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack Ай бұрын
When I see old shellac records at yard sales and Goodwill I always buy the entire lot. Nobody else will and they will just go in the trash otherwise. I end up with 40-50 lb boxes or a tattered old binder crumbling in my hands with records not played since WW1 for just a couple bucks. I seem to remember seeing a something-phone label, but I am not entirely certain. Just a blur of names among many. I'll have to look again now that I seen this video. They all need to be washed and taken better care of, some have mildew growing on them and they have a particular odor that makes my nose runny.
@larrpeninger
@larrpeninger Ай бұрын
I have slowly been getting into collecting 45rpm records, and now I need to get smaller boxes? But seriously, I have seen a few AL Jolsen in 78s and 45s, but I haven't seen any of the little wonder. Could be they just get snatched up. But then again, the record store probably holds them back and sells them at a premium price point.
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip Ай бұрын
Hello! The Jolsen recording on Little Wonder isn't credited. It's not common, however I presume that 95% of record stores wouldn't know that Little Wonder #20 was a Jolson recording and would not charge a premium for it.
@leechjim8023
@leechjim8023 Ай бұрын
What was on that King record?
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip Ай бұрын
Hello! It was King 567 - Rockin Chair Money//When Snowflakes Fall by Bill Carlisle. Recorded in October of 1946.
@user-yg7qw7mj6g
@user-yg7qw7mj6g Ай бұрын
That short take sounded much better than I expected! Thanks for saving this!
@djoutrage18
@djoutrage18 Ай бұрын
I'm glad it wasn't me that found it because I'd have just sold it (delta blues isn't my favourite but I'd have known what it was) I collect 78s, have tens of thousands of them and so this would be like me finding a Berliner or a rare jazz or operatic record. I can imagine the thrill you got all too well Mark, awesome stuff and I hope you keep it for ever!
@AlexlStormont
@AlexlStormont Ай бұрын
How do people know what to look for As in When the music is this old ( majoritarily out of living memory) who’s desirable ?
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip Ай бұрын
Good question, Alex. The answer is complicated, however. There are two versions of "desirable". The first is simply whether or not the person who owns the record or someone else wants a copy because they like the music. The other version is whether or not collectors are looking for it and people are willing to spend money on it. In this case, there are a LOT of people looking for this disc who are willing to spend a lot of cash on it. Knowing which recordings are valuable is simply a by-product of going through thousands of records over the years. Being able to spot rare discs in a pile of common ones is an acquired skill. Usually it's the artists that AREN'T popular that have a better chance of being desirable. Most Sinatra, Crosby, etc... records have little value, but Mary Willis and other seemingly dull boring names are quite valuable. It's a sense you develop by listening to a lot of records.
@henryschmidt4712
@henryschmidt4712 Ай бұрын
It's been my experience over the past 60 + years is that the Royal Blue records as noted above was a fine wash over a Black shellac disc by doing the the records wore quite easily and more subject to lam cracks. I have also had some late 30's Tommy Dorsey radio shows pressed by Radio Records that were pressed on 12" discs (three in a set) that were Blue Wax from 1937
@Sapenboys2009
@Sapenboys2009 2 ай бұрын
One record I've never seen a video of or at least be played on a turntable is "Chick Webb - I Can't Dance (I got ants in my Pants)"
@sailordude2094
@sailordude2094 2 ай бұрын
Amazing stuff, thanks! I found out about the Two Black Crows through KZfaq about a year ago. I didn't know they were that big in comedy records! I also just found out today that for decades on the radio, Amos and Andy were voiced by white actors. Learn something new everyday, yessum.
@VitaphoneCorp
@VitaphoneCorp 2 ай бұрын
Well there is clearly a reason why it is rare… the audio is garbage 😂. What was Brunswick thinking when they released this junk?
@MrRom92DAW
@MrRom92DAW 2 ай бұрын
I like the story behind the record, but I would be thrilled if I never heard this one again
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip 2 ай бұрын
Some of you have asked about joining ARSC. Here is a link for you. My personal opinion is that just having access to past lectures and presentations is worth it. arsc.wildapricot.org/join
@alternateunreleasedshellac505
@alternateunreleasedshellac505 2 ай бұрын
I'd really like to join the ARSC, but don't know how to approach.
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip 2 ай бұрын
Here you go! Check it out and see if you think it's for you. arsc.wildapricot.org/join
@alternateunreleasedshellac505
@alternateunreleasedshellac505 2 ай бұрын
@@MarkAtnip Thanks!
@alternateunreleasedshellac505
@alternateunreleasedshellac505 17 күн бұрын
@@MarkAtnip My primary reason for joining is to better my recording techniques. Do you know if anyone could help me with that?
@theforgottenone687
@theforgottenone687 2 ай бұрын
4:10 I didn’t even expect to just snap in half like that you just casually did it like it was nothing gave my quiet a shock if I was the one who got his record snapped in half like that it will take me sometimes to calm me down consider giving up and quitting my collection and throwing away all my 78 but you just sounded so casual about it
@meetontheledge1380
@meetontheledge1380 2 ай бұрын
''Oh move my pillow, and turn my bed around''- easily rivals Emily Dickenson's ''..horse's heads turned towards Eternity''. In fact, it is an even more concrete and vivid image , IMO. Patton, like Son House, was not ''playing'' (or if he was, he was ''playing for keeps''). No ''hokum'' blues here. I've lived with ''O Death'' since the early 90's, the hisses and pops of the old ''Document'' series don't bother me at all, though I recently heard a much enhanced ''34 Blues'' that makes me think that I should reinvestigate the library before YT become s totally intolerable. One mystery that still remains- the fourth volume of the Document series had a white guy on the ''cover'' of the CD. Does anybody have any idea what the story is on that? Liked and subbed.
@207spacecowboyeddjones
@207spacecowboyeddjones 2 ай бұрын
Excellent Baseball & Records as good as it gets
@jaredwblack
@jaredwblack 2 ай бұрын
3:23 to 3:43 is a Woody Guthrie song
@1mctous
@1mctous 2 ай бұрын
Really nice Thorens 'table! I also noticed that your amp had variable bass boost-treble rolloff, not just RIAA.
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip 2 ай бұрын
The Thorens recently returned from having a small repair done and as soon as I started watching the video (after it was posted) I immediately noticed that I had not balanced the table. (Note the bubble level) Oh the shame. As for the amp... I might be doing a review of it. It's not available to the public yet. Its.... AWESOME* (*but a bit expensive)
@1mctous
@1mctous 2 ай бұрын
@@MarkAtnip You don't have to have OCD to play records but it certainly helps!
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip 2 ай бұрын
@@1mctous has a VERY valid point! : )
@codex3048
@codex3048 2 ай бұрын
Living in the USA used to be such a neat experience. It would never occur to anyone today to do something like this.
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack 2 ай бұрын
There have been many albums done by corporations/businesses in the past 20 years but none probably in the past decade. I have a CD made by the Wal-Mart Associates Band and one by the Chicago Transit Authority Band.
@zenithcoinsandhobbies
@zenithcoinsandhobbies 2 ай бұрын
Neat to see the Union Pacific shield on a record label. And yeah, those songs really are quite good!
@TwilightZoneX
@TwilightZoneX 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating history and thank you
@danielarick2105
@danielarick2105 2 ай бұрын
I don't know if this counts, but I had a record that was made by Liberace, and it was Brahms Lullaby, with him singing, and Dark Eyes with orchestra, and his brother George, on violin, it was offered, or sponsored by the Fort Wayne National Bank, no idea what label pressed it, it may have been Capital.
@MarkAtnip
@MarkAtnip 2 ай бұрын
That is kind of in between a "souvenir" a "promotional" and a "special pressing" It's a fun record as well. Enjoy that one! That's the kind of thing I might get to one day.
@danielarick2105
@danielarick2105 2 ай бұрын
@@MarkAtnip Unfortunenitly, the copy I had was destroyed some years ago. I have not found another copy.
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack 2 ай бұрын
Those would be a special pressing in record terms, in general terms it's a promotional record. Would have been mailed out to employees of the bank. If it was mailed out to every member who had an account with the bank I am sure it would be a lot more common. Also likely would be limited to the Fort Wayne and northern Indiana area. I live in this area, and I have never seen it, but I will keep an eye out in the bins. I like collecting promo records so I'm sure if I were to see one it would stick out to me.
@danielarick2105
@danielarick2105 2 ай бұрын
@@MrWolfSnack I no longer have that record, it was destroyed years ago by a brother who detested Liberace, any way I think it may have been pressed by Capital Records looking at the label it was their purple label from the fifties
@AlbertBenajam-ww1db
@AlbertBenajam-ww1db 2 ай бұрын
In short was this a show like GEORGE BURNS and GRACIE ALLEN that would leave a Golden age radio trail, or just (recorded) guest routine put in other sh9wd
@AlbertBenajam-ww1db
@AlbertBenajam-ww1db 2 ай бұрын
I have no idea who who Rustic Chatterwitz were, but depending how aired maybe just a place holder name, used if the rather frisky routine was assembled into a show. /that is/a recorded act dropped in as part of shoa Rather than as completed show. In that case may have aired as (say) Alice and Bob. Another station may have used Mr. + Mrs. Loudmouth. In early days of Victor they had few artists and so semiclassic singer DeGogosa had lots of fake names, like Senior Fransisco added by Victor 9:05 😮 9:05 9:05 😊 to simulator having lots of singers. Later relabeled with his real name, as told in book THE FABULUS PH0Ñ0GRAPH and real name labeled in later copies. But if sorry we're not known collectors would research fake names in vain. In early radio sometime studio musicians would solo with fake names, like staff violinist playing square dance violin as "Rustic Joe" one week and as "Gypsy Lugosi" another.
@AlbertBenajam-ww1db
@AlbertBenajam-ww1db 2 ай бұрын
Tiny phonograph record were used in TALKING VIEWMASTER, Yhey were afixed to fr9nt of special vewmaster disks, the disks were ckearplas5ic ss light went thu to see 3D images. Philco mase 3inch 45rph records called HipPocket rec9rds to be played by pocket sized player. They were round soud sheets. They eere of rock jits from various label but NOT VZictor or Columbia. Arpund 196i for several years.
@juanvillanueva5267
@juanvillanueva5267 2 ай бұрын
First time watching. Very entertaining! The 78 rpm is my format of choice. I remember my parents collection of late 50's boleros from Puerto Rico and the doo wop 78s of the time. How fantastic these gems sounded! Srew digital! I want my music on 78 and played on a gorgeous 50's console hi fi with that deep jukebox sound. Magic!, i say! ❤❤❤
@eddiemoore8468
@eddiemoore8468 2 ай бұрын
There are 2 records of Willie Brown that are still lost. Hopefully someone will find them someday.
@TwilightZoneX
@TwilightZoneX 2 ай бұрын
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