IVERN MID IN LCS - CHURCH OF C9 VS GG - CAEDREL

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Caedrel

Caedrel

Күн бұрын

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@Siros
@Siros 2 жыл бұрын
Like or hate c9 or ls, you can't deny that this shit was super fun and entertaining. Haven't had that much fun watching league in years
@saintsataniko2116
@saintsataniko2116 2 жыл бұрын
You obviously haven't watched the Sneaky, Doublelft, Meteos Co-Stream then.
@augustinboulloche684
@augustinboulloche684 2 жыл бұрын
@@saintsataniko2116 The entertainment comes from the streamers not the game
@juliusrafaelcbautista4517
@juliusrafaelcbautista4517 2 жыл бұрын
@@saintsataniko2116 the absolute legendary trio
@Alex-gv4rv
@Alex-gv4rv 2 жыл бұрын
@@saintsataniko2116 read their comment again and rethink what you typed
@playoffp.1501
@playoffp.1501 2 жыл бұрын
@@saintsataniko2116 he means in the pro scenes not from retired players genius 🤡
@trevorc5157
@trevorc5157 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see what LS will pull out. We finally get to see him put his theories into practice.
@amplitudehertz17
@amplitudehertz17 2 жыл бұрын
I can cut him a slack for the lackluster bbq oliver team as one can blame it over the lack of player quality. Now C9 as the top team of the region should have no problem executing his ideas and be successful.
@alexkzy5210
@alexkzy5210 2 жыл бұрын
yuumi jungle
@Anixyia
@Anixyia 2 жыл бұрын
@@amplitudehertz17 how is c9 at all the best team in the region? lol
@shinobuu__
@shinobuu__ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anixyia at least player wise C9 has the best players individually for most of the team.
@Welari12
@Welari12 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinobuu__ blatantly not true.
@HawgJawn
@HawgJawn 2 жыл бұрын
LCS just needs a live audience - this year is gonna be hype.
@rwwars6948
@rwwars6948 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they bring worlds to Florida, Here in Florida there is no covid live event restrictions, meaning you can have over 10 thousand people in a stadium and still wouldn’t come close to breaking the law.
@maxhuang770
@maxhuang770 2 жыл бұрын
@@rwwars6948 exactly why it isn't going to be in Florida lol
@rwwars6948
@rwwars6948 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxhuang770 imagine the Hopuim, Na or EU wins worlds infront of a stadium of people.
@MrGetownedLP
@MrGetownedLP 2 жыл бұрын
ON GOD
@ecstasyhacks4279
@ecstasyhacks4279 2 жыл бұрын
@@rwwars6948 you’re aware riot has been avoiding covid spreading right? Lol “no covid restrictions” as if that were a “good” decision. Jeez 🤣🤣 🤦🏽‍♂️
@NecroEditing
@NecroEditing 2 жыл бұрын
2:20 he actually commented on this on stream. Basically said to expect some sinner drafts (inc renekton) throughout the season when he thinks it's the right thing to do.
@curlybloke101
@curlybloke101 2 жыл бұрын
I mean from my understanding he doesnt think these champs are complete dogshit, but teams draft them 90% of the games, first pick, blind pick when it makes no sense.
@faveology
@faveology 2 жыл бұрын
@@curlybloke101 Teams in NA, specifically the teams with bad or limited champ pool top laners, love to pick Renekton. It's so easy to counter in lane. Reminds me of when teams were just spamming Aatrox. C9 could have went GP, Jayce, Ornn, etc. and got the same result because Renekton is garbage. He's strictly a counter pick champ
@klemen96
@klemen96 2 жыл бұрын
@@curlybloke101 and its much more different in late game when you kind of make a hyper carry with all the support he get, so it doesn't fall off that much since all the buff from enchanters..
@matthewblu5725
@matthewblu5725 2 жыл бұрын
the highlights of this game for me is berserker not dying to renekton, summit juking the Jhin shots, and summit almost 1v2ing qiyana yuumi at the end of the game only to be interrupted by fudge.
@rezy144
@rezy144 2 жыл бұрын
what makes that juking thing for me is that 4th shot and qyiana's q went to the same place so he juked 2 skills at once
@faveology
@faveology 2 жыл бұрын
@@rezy144 Tbh, GG just isn't good. They looked bad in lock-in and somehow look even worse now.
@anthonysmith1228
@anthonysmith1228 2 жыл бұрын
@@rezy144 honestly it would be more impressive if he dodged 2 skillshots in different places
@zbluee2
@zbluee2 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see 1st time item ivern on my ranked queue 😅
@arifsaifuddinzakaria860
@arifsaifuddinzakaria860 2 жыл бұрын
if fudge can 1st time soraka mid and won what stops you brother?
@january2627
@january2627 2 жыл бұрын
dont worry man its still a free win
@charlesgideon2925
@charlesgideon2925 2 жыл бұрын
good luck in silver 4!
@alexandrubucurica1709
@alexandrubucurica1709 2 жыл бұрын
By first timing he meant in pro play. He said he practiced it on scrims
@sweatirlshorts2363
@sweatirlshorts2363 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrubucurica1709 Bit late, but he didn't practice it in scrims, he just 1v1'd Copy (C9 Academy's Mid laner)
@bayazwow
@bayazwow 2 жыл бұрын
I played ranked like 1 hr after this game and was playing against Ivern mid in D2 NA lol
@tretz_0
@tretz_0 2 жыл бұрын
Ain’t seen the video but I already know he said “bro, what the fuck” or “pog let’s go man” at the ivern
@lmao4982
@lmao4982 2 жыл бұрын
he'd already seen the draft offscreen unfortunately
@MagonTheConqueror
@MagonTheConqueror 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s just refreshing to see C9 try to have it’s own identity even so early on in a coach’s stint on the team. Maybe Fudge’s strength as a mid will be to function as this chameleon player who enables LS to cook up some interesting drafts/strategies to beat other teams.
@JigAtTheFuneral
@JigAtTheFuneral Жыл бұрын
Aged like a fine egg
@MagonTheConqueror
@MagonTheConqueror Жыл бұрын
@@JigAtTheFuneral lul unfortunately yes
@bshr1nk3yk1d
@bshr1nk3yk1d 2 жыл бұрын
Ls is becoming a problem on my schedule for LCS, I HAVE to watch every c9 game 4 times over to get all that juicy commentary from each co streamer and castor + Caedral really showing why he's one of the best costreamers to watch knowing just enough variables to be able to predict a lot of the game
@zeronothinghere9334
@zeronothinghere9334 2 жыл бұрын
Who do you watch
@zeronothinghere9334
@zeronothinghere9334 2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in more content but only found caedrel and IWD
@warmonksLoL
@warmonksLoL 2 жыл бұрын
Ain't this the truth lmao. everyone has something interesting to say, caedrel is no exception.
@warmonksLoL
@warmonksLoL 2 жыл бұрын
​@@zeronothinghere9334 TheBritishPoro has some great vids on both of last weekends draft.
@guilhermebressan5689
@guilhermebressan5689 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Caedrel, your analysis is so good. This is the first time I watch you and it's all on point. A pleasure to hear you, and all the points you make were really clear.
@Tauschung
@Tauschung 2 жыл бұрын
Pog Caedral video about LS
@Derogue23
@Derogue23 2 жыл бұрын
“They just threw the whole game” that’s exactly what I said the second I saw that fight. People are so scared and play weird against these LS drafts
@TerryBackUp
@TerryBackUp 2 жыл бұрын
15:17 what a turbo int flash by pridestalker. Enemy is on ocean soul point and dude is flashing for only 300 gold.
@Savaris96
@Savaris96 2 жыл бұрын
Pridestalkr seems to take the whole Assassin thing too seriously anyways Only reason why C9 could play like this was because he went for two kills while Blaber got 2 drakes
@justinmorsheim3942
@justinmorsheim3942 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty crazy how much investment LS has brought to the LCS.
@waterbottlexd1298
@waterbottlexd1298 2 жыл бұрын
Man I was just thinking about this!
@JohnK26
@JohnK26 2 жыл бұрын
That ivern mid technology was actually disgusting. He barely goes down in lane and somehow c9 take every dragon and super scaling into team fights. It looks like another top smite Janna except with less risk. LS is a psychopath and I love it
@hypotheticalsinglewoody
@hypotheticalsinglewoody 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on this vid popping off! You deserve every view.
@shadenym5094
@shadenym5094 2 жыл бұрын
I'll note that Caedrel was evaluating the Renekton pick as if it was a blind pick, but GG probably thought that it was gwen top, or maybe smite Ivern top. I don't think anyone in that spot would consider the Ivern going mid, so to me that changes the evaluation of the pick at least. GG got outmaneuvered hard.
@faveology
@faveology 2 жыл бұрын
Renekton doesn't beat Gwen either though lol. Like sure maybe until level 6 it's decent, but the matchup only gets worse for Renekton as the game goes on. Level3 spike is Renekton's best chance
@RollerdinoGaming
@RollerdinoGaming 2 жыл бұрын
to be honest, if fans of LS know about his love for enchanters in every lane (he's been pretty vocal about seraphine/ivern/lulu being able to go 3 to 5 roles each), then I'd say it's something an analyst can come across as well
@boyo7494
@boyo7494 2 жыл бұрын
Any team going against LS should be expecting multi-flex with whatever champions can do so. He’s always advocated for flexibility with the champions’ positions within the game.
@nicp9178
@nicp9178 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the C9 v EG game analysis
@HoodieOfLegends
@HoodieOfLegends 2 жыл бұрын
caedral is the guy to watch for competitive people period. man learned a match up mid recording, chill he's the goat
@kurtmcfc1629
@kurtmcfc1629 2 жыл бұрын
TL's roster and the C9 intrigue might be the things that save LCS terrible viewership
@TheYoutubeUser69
@TheYoutubeUser69 2 жыл бұрын
Not happening. LCS is such a snoozfest
@matheuseduardo67
@matheuseduardo67 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKZfaqUser69 Dude I'm afraid you've been watching a completely different tournament
@tomsrudzitis4942
@tomsrudzitis4942 2 жыл бұрын
@@matheuseduardo67 well lock in was a snooze fest, but the regular season is promising
@hehexd5317
@hehexd5317 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKZfaqUser69 lcs viewership was pretty good last night on the c9 vs eg game (had close to 200k viewers), it's prolly gonna be more for c9 vs 100t/tl games
@andrewkelley9405
@andrewkelley9405 2 жыл бұрын
I basically only watch LCS for TL, 100T, and C9.
@r2b289
@r2b289 2 жыл бұрын
I love these analysis. Keep up the good job caedrel ;)
@MrGetownedLP
@MrGetownedLP 2 жыл бұрын
IVERN MID POG, LET'S GO MAN!
@vismvp
@vismvp 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone curious as to why Ivern solo lane is powerful; After level 2 you reallly can't be bullied out. If it's a melee champ and you can react w/ a bush & your shield, you will ALWAYS out trade them, and with the slow frmo your shield you can just run them down. Once you're 6, nothing can beat you, and with items being snowballed faster because of lane cs, you spike super hard super fast. Nothing really "beats" ivern in lane unless he makes a lot of mistakes.
@markovchainz8314
@markovchainz8314 2 жыл бұрын
Fudge was getting pushed out of lane by Viktor. He did well enough for his role in the comp, but ivern does eventually struggle once more damage comes online
@maxcormier7821
@maxcormier7821 2 жыл бұрын
i have absolutely 0 issues murdering mid lane ivern as an assassin player
@hehexd5317
@hehexd5317 2 жыл бұрын
@Mady Meagen they banned zed because of the jungler, he's an assassin player, caedrel even mentions it's a target ban at pridestalker
@hehexd5317
@hehexd5317 2 жыл бұрын
@Mady Meagen he clearly understands that doe, since he said he had no issues dealing with ivern as an assassin player, your comment seems more like you just misunderstood the purpose of the ban
@t.t1660
@t.t1660 2 жыл бұрын
LS redemption arc. His healing/shielding solo lanes obsession pays off. Good to see(i guess?)
@KhoaLe-tr3cg
@KhoaLe-tr3cg 2 жыл бұрын
First time I watch lcs in years. It’s one of the most entertaining game I’ve ever watch
@vegancheeseburger8001
@vegancheeseburger8001 2 жыл бұрын
How come Midbeast didn't make a video on the "1000LP Korean Ivern onetrick"?
@cungchi6634
@cungchi6634 2 жыл бұрын
idk if you read comments, but I know you where talking about how ivern likes champs that just walk in, but the way he plays aphelios this game pairs perfectly with ivern
@mccninja_
@mccninja_ 2 жыл бұрын
this will go great as you two have so different view on the game
@avekakristianto1314
@avekakristianto1314 2 жыл бұрын
LS's masterplan afterall this time is to convince everyone on how bad healing reduction items are so he can now finally become a coach and abuse enchanters
@grabakrfen9337
@grabakrfen9337 2 жыл бұрын
Rip the masterplan, was fun while it lasted tho
@bigsmoke6675
@bigsmoke6675 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that Clown9 finally showed everyone the true power of Ivern mid
@Ven_detta_
@Ven_detta_ 2 жыл бұрын
dude you really need a highlight channel, don't usually watch your vids, without chat it's pretty boring but I went through some of your VODS to find something and your stream is very entertaining
@cable2590
@cable2590 2 жыл бұрын
part of me wants LS to finally be humbled a bit but I can't deny he has his moments. He's extremely outspoken, and I do think he's stubborn to a fault, but he certainly isn't all talk. Credit to that.
@faveology
@faveology 2 жыл бұрын
The second C9 falters and he starts to take heat, he will dip out. He has a weak mental and can't take criticism. Jack knows his C9 roster alone is good enough to be top 4 in NA. Hiring LS was purely to generate money for C9. It's win-win for Jack. Both games C9 have played they would have won just playing traditional meta. We won't know how good C9 is with the addition of LS until we see how they perform in LCS playoffs and internationally.
@cable2590
@cable2590 2 жыл бұрын
@@faveology This is true, he's publicly lashed out and feuded with people who have criticised him. I mean the dude used to cheat in pro games of starcraft 2, his mental is weak for sure.
@Ryuno_Ace
@Ryuno_Ace 2 жыл бұрын
haters in tears lol
@michaborzecki9777
@michaborzecki9777 2 жыл бұрын
LS drafts LETS GO
@vang-toulee8351
@vang-toulee8351 2 жыл бұрын
Damn LS. I actually got 4 of c9 on my fantasy. They are gonna be so hard to predict
@neekovo9256
@neekovo9256 2 жыл бұрын
I think something that is brought up kind of but not really discussed as much as it should is how massive the flex picks are. From GGs perspective the renekton is not a blind pick. You are assuming the comp up to this point is Gwen - top Ivern - Jg and then aphel sona - bot. Obviously they could have considered the gwen is the jg but based on their bans of xin and lee it is obvious they assumed the gwen was top. This is why it is a bit hard to pick other things into a presumed gwen top. Obviously I do not know how some of the suggested tops fair into a presumed Gwen top but it does go into the calculation. They fully expect renekton to be going into Gwen top and that's what makes C9s draft so hard is how versatile it is
@user-gl9mf3zo7r
@user-gl9mf3zo7r 2 жыл бұрын
c9 is now must watch team, im so happy LS got a spot on c9 with this specific roster.
@andrewkelley9405
@andrewkelley9405 2 жыл бұрын
LS puts the LS in LCS this year.
@cwazyazn
@cwazyazn 2 жыл бұрын
He had to put up or shut up, as someone who isn’t too fond of LS, I don’t hate the guy, just think his opinions are too strong, he definitely shut me up. Weather I like him or not, he progressed the game forward and I have to respect him for that.
@nikivatsov9312
@nikivatsov9312 2 жыл бұрын
@Knightfalldoe I want a C9 jersey but those prices kinda stop me
@larswalsleben3489
@larswalsleben3489 2 жыл бұрын
lets wait a second. They havent proven anything yet. Need to pull this off against a good team first
@oneNovember831
@oneNovember831 2 жыл бұрын
@@larswalsleben3489 they just won vs EG, think its working
@jazeroliversy673
@jazeroliversy673 2 жыл бұрын
@@larswalsleben3489 they fucked EG with soraka mid soooo..
@jorgemuerte9188
@jorgemuerte9188 2 жыл бұрын
Early to the cathedral :)
@starvinmcmarvin
@starvinmcmarvin 2 жыл бұрын
interesting, i thought the karma top flyquest unloaded was kind fun too.
@jakerosler3698
@jakerosler3698 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man it's good to get some representation.
@bigbip5612
@bigbip5612 2 жыл бұрын
Holy moly this video is absolutely popping off. props to caedrel and his editor
@saintsataniko2116
@saintsataniko2116 2 жыл бұрын
A REAL test for C9 comes in the third game today against EG. JoJo curb-stomped Fudge in Lock In and won't be passive in Mid. And Inspired vs Blaber is a top of the table world class Jungling matchup. C9 has less than a week's worth of scrims, so LS surely has something saved up for the much bigger challenge that is EG. Impact Vs Summit! Danny vs Berserker! It's all good.
@danielmehok5720
@danielmehok5720 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with your comment about hype matchup but let’s be honest I don’t think inspired or blaber are world class by any means. Inspired is one of my fav players but he has only dominated domestically and blaber well.. we know how all those scuttle fights went
@TheCodingWhale350
@TheCodingWhale350 2 жыл бұрын
weeeeeeell .... i don't think anybody has the right to shit the talk the guy anymore, pro's egos are gonna have a tough one this year.
@jazeroliversy673
@jazeroliversy673 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like they passed the test:p
@Kh01N
@Kh01N 2 жыл бұрын
Welll about that....
@livingreverie5951
@livingreverie5951 2 жыл бұрын
Man the Jojo stomping Fudge aged poorly (ended game 0/5/4 on Viktor)
@j0hncarp
@j0hncarp 2 жыл бұрын
within the minute caedrel says that qiyana shouldn't dive and give botlane his bounty, it happens. Caster curse at its strongest. I know he's watching the VOD but still, its some space time continuum caster curse
@roycekaboyce7196
@roycekaboyce7196 Ай бұрын
400k🎉
@vincenth2890
@vincenth2890 2 жыл бұрын
waiting for the EG game now
@nosuitsgiven
@nosuitsgiven 2 жыл бұрын
I quit playing and watching league of legends a couple months ago. LS might actually make me watch again.
@Tenz220
@Tenz220 2 жыл бұрын
Just in terms of pure entertainment LCS is unmatched lol.
@jakecordes1811
@jakecordes1811 2 жыл бұрын
Im an ivern one trick, and viktor should win every trade against ivern mid. My guess is that Ablazeolive was thinking "why trade with him, especially if i dont know where gwen is, ill just take the free lane and outscale him". But like caedrel said, the C9 kills got onto the right people, so viktor does not outscale an ivern then
@SAINT_SPYRO
@SAINT_SPYRO 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see these LS drafts vs experienced people like Bwipo Bjerg Sama from TL. There is no way it can work if its not broken or TL dont respect ban phase. But I doubt u going to cheese pick Bjergsen who played when half of current C9 doesnt exist. Will be interesting match tho i m looking forward to it.
@wardoghitman5061
@wardoghitman5061 2 жыл бұрын
blitzcrank would be so good into this comp
@mrfoodfrostfiend4100
@mrfoodfrostfiend4100 2 жыл бұрын
even less value warding ivern bushes because he is constantly auto attacking from the bush revealing himself anyway
@Velereonics
@Velereonics 2 жыл бұрын
I think C9 will be inconsistent at least in the first split but I'm more excited to watch them than TL. I'm a Danny stan so I will love watching EG but you just know every C( game will be a banger, especially twitter after the games.
@willus2845
@willus2845 2 жыл бұрын
man 😔
@chaddude2
@chaddude2 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is, the "Better team" Caedrel mentioned at that end... might not exist in NA right now. TL EG and 100T all have skilled players, but can the effectively punish the Chruch?
@jazeroliversy673
@jazeroliversy673 2 жыл бұрын
EG down, 2 teams to go 0_o
@vang-toulee8351
@vang-toulee8351 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe not at first but eventually they can. Even if they can't do it for spring playoffs, summer just gonna be even more spicy. LS is making c9 a korean team at this point. This is good practice for the top three.
@faveology
@faveology 2 жыл бұрын
TL isn't even able to use their full roster. TL will only get better with time. EG is overrated. 100T is solid, but they are really only built to do well in NA
@chaddude2
@chaddude2 2 жыл бұрын
@@faveology TL will definitely be strong. I think EG is exactly rated at what they should be... pretty good. 100T is easily the most unimpressive, especially when you talk about their drafts, macro, game sense, and flexibility
@senbonzankura
@senbonzankura 2 жыл бұрын
I love ivern so much
@longlifetometal1995
@longlifetometal1995 2 жыл бұрын
0:14 we need more of that accent ngl Edit : Question for anyone with knowledge : I know Jhin-Yuumi-Viktor in the first round of picks is veru debatable, but would Malphite on B5 instead of Renekton have been a better option at that point in the draft ?
@vevymotivation
@vevymotivation 2 жыл бұрын
Not a big fan of that pick but would be way better cause of the engage but a lot of teams are drafting like animals.. few teams care about an actually team comp most of them just pick confort picks even when is bad or doesnt bring nothing ..
@FereniaO
@FereniaO 2 жыл бұрын
Nah caedrel had the best pivot here on r5, kennen or an adc top would be best here
@vevymotivation
@vevymotivation 2 жыл бұрын
@@FereniaO No? .. lool an other adc vs Gwen with double enchant is just terible.. Any hard engage top and is free because you need to kill that Sona/Ivern before you can start play front to back with the viktor
@Yoshi-qw1bp
@Yoshi-qw1bp 2 жыл бұрын
@@vevymotivation At that point draft was pretty much lost regardless, only qyanna would be able to follow the malphite while jhin and viktor wanna fight from range and thats terrible vs the other comp with that much sustain, and gwen can melt the malphite same as the renekton
@vevymotivation
@vevymotivation 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yoshi-qw1bp well i never said their comp is good i just said malphite or any engage top would be better then an other adc top as someone sugested.. but yea that's the think with LS drafts they force you to get out of comfort you cant win vs double enchant with confort picks as Rene , jhin ( Viktor can be decent but not really strong )
@iboxch
@iboxch 2 жыл бұрын
To the question if LS will pick Renekton in future, he might because we saw Gnar today and LS hate Gnar.
@vaderbuckeye36
@vaderbuckeye36 2 жыл бұрын
He may hate gnar, but gnar is less sinful than renekton, in addition to the fact that summit is excellent on gnar.
@johanneschristopherstahle3395
@johanneschristopherstahle3395 2 жыл бұрын
In the end every champion can be viable if it fits into the game plan and counters the enemies' game plan. What LS really hates if people just pick champs because they are regarded as OP, but they forget about champs that are not meta at the moment, but would be more suitable for the job that they need to do in that game.
@FereniaO
@FereniaO 2 жыл бұрын
Definetly, he said on stream he isn't oppesed to that and also he is keeping Diana on high regards which means yes renekton and yasuo are always a thought in mind
@gosuu7530
@gosuu7530 2 жыл бұрын
That qiyana is Nono
@rwwars6948
@rwwars6948 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that c9 is willing to bind metas, and try different things is why I think c9 is the greatest NA team right now.
@Eldwood
@Eldwood 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree though, GG's Midlaner could have harassed this Ivern from the get go, with or without his Hexcore upgrade, plus Qiyana giving the Viktor the best ramping of a life time; Also, Qiyana taking everything was not smart at all..... share some with your buddies
@RumandCocaine
@RumandCocaine 2 жыл бұрын
Lcs looks so good comparing to lec.
@hellup
@hellup 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it really would be interesting to see how the game would have turned out if C9 were playing against some of NA's better teams like TL and EG.
@patrikszabo4175
@patrikszabo4175 2 жыл бұрын
We will see today
@vlrsq
@vlrsq 2 жыл бұрын
they would probably lose but again, they had like 3 days of practice in scrims while TL and EG had like 2 weeks +
@IfWhatYes
@IfWhatYes 2 жыл бұрын
Soraka S tier I guess
@jazeroliversy673
@jazeroliversy673 2 жыл бұрын
1st time soraka in 2 years> EG
@liammckenna1479
@liammckenna1479 Жыл бұрын
Ah what could have been...
@abouttime2569
@abouttime2569 Жыл бұрын
Nothing significant. LS is just highly overrated by his fanboys who don't know much about the game.
@nickolayvlachkov7781
@nickolayvlachkov7781 Жыл бұрын
@@abouttime2569 not looking at how annoying the guy can be it feels like he is the only guy out there who actually understands the game, its just people cant/dont want to go out of their comfort zone so much and be flexible
@abouttime2569
@abouttime2569 Жыл бұрын
@@nickolayvlachkov7781 No. He knows more than the general public. That is all. He also speaks with confidence. And people just believe him. If you compare LS to actual Korean ex-pros, ex-coaches, LS' knowledge is very limited. This is how society works. It is not what you know. It is how you sell it. LS is a salesman.
@liammckenna1479
@liammckenna1479 Жыл бұрын
@@abouttime2569 1. When LS was fired as a coach it wasn't just a tragedy because I think he would have been a good coach, he brought more variety to the 4 games he was a part of than the LCS had seen in a very long time. What he brought was fresh to an otherwise stale LCS meta, even if you disagree about how good it was. 2. How can you even vouch for Korean coaches? The players are the best, but how do you even know what the coaches contribute?
@abouttime2569
@abouttime2569 Жыл бұрын
@@liammckenna1479 1. I do agree LS' approach was fresh. Would it have worked long term? Who knows. Too much of a small sample size to even say anything about it. 2. I speak fluent Korean and I watch various streams from current and former LCK coaches and players. I usually watch a lot of analysis and discussions. The detail of explanation of games and drafts are miles ahead of LS'. For example, LS is doing multiplication, and LCK personnel are doing algebra. It is not even close. Rekkles has been doing analysis while he was not playing and he is identified by the Korean community as a player who doesn't know a lot about the game. On average, the Korean community knows more than the English speaking community because they are being fed with much higher quality analysis all these years. You can tell the difference in quality of debates in online communities. The reason why LS have different opinions with a lot of decisions by LCK teams is because he doesn't understand the game in a very deep manner.
@lifenote1943
@lifenote1943 2 жыл бұрын
imagine giving up drakes when you have prio.
@Emilie-um3qc
@Emilie-um3qc 2 жыл бұрын
Berserker is the Guma of NA
@patlee4858
@patlee4858 2 жыл бұрын
i dont always like ls or think he is right, but god damn this draft is fun
@yeshigyalpo7497
@yeshigyalpo7497 2 жыл бұрын
review c9 vs eg
@jeffyboyreloaded
@jeffyboyreloaded Жыл бұрын
Is ivern playable meta? Feels like you can't apply pressure correctly but that ivern Korea story is awesome 😂
@davidkunakovsky3155
@davidkunakovsky3155 2 жыл бұрын
Caedrel as coach when?
@steezyrog
@steezyrog 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was c9 Jensen
@btvitek1671
@btvitek1671 2 жыл бұрын
Yuumi can sit on Viktor and also on Rene, but yeah draft could be better.
@Aquwert
@Aquwert 2 жыл бұрын
Pride playing with an ego 💀 entertaining to watch c9 though!
@MrInsdor
@MrInsdor 2 жыл бұрын
22:16 NA has a new soloQ?
@augustb.w.4778
@augustb.w.4778 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like blabber should have gone rylais third and just made their lives hell
@feliixottosson
@feliixottosson 2 жыл бұрын
Very swedish hello 11:03 xD
@mouhsinpalas4825
@mouhsinpalas4825 2 жыл бұрын
thats t1 berserker
@InstinctVSM
@InstinctVSM 2 жыл бұрын
Blabber 1v3 not 1v2
@TheKillTable
@TheKillTable 2 жыл бұрын
why the hell is viktor running cookies vs ivern
@TheBritishPoro
@TheBritishPoro 2 жыл бұрын
B5 kennen gets smacked by R5 irelia here I think. Smashes the lane, isn't too scared of qiyana since she can W the R, wins sidelane and has a Sona Ivern with her in 5v5s. Also gives c9 a great physical magic damage split.
@pokemonfan155
@pokemonfan155 2 жыл бұрын
I don't play league anymore just watch pro play can someone explain to me what the new solo queue caedral is talking about at the end
@user-sv6gs6jq8o
@user-sv6gs6jq8o 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know the details but they splitted na and created a high elo server on the west coast. For better ping etc i guess
@even6978
@even6978 2 жыл бұрын
dawifx doesnt exist
@larswalsleben3489
@larswalsleben3489 2 жыл бұрын
Olaf last pick would have destroyed kennen right? Like Olaf would have demolished Viktor, Kennen, Jhin and qiyana. Blaber would have murdered them. The triple flex was just too much.
@faveology
@faveology 2 жыл бұрын
Kennen isn't good vs Gwen either. Gwen just doesn't really have a bad lane matchup. Gwen can just go exhaust + TP. Exhaust literally counters Kennen so hard, especially late game when he is just an R bot who stuns EDIT: Also, this is NA. We suck at Kennen and Jayce top 😆
@lostempyrean
@lostempyrean 2 жыл бұрын
Summit and Berserker look fucking cracked, can easily be the best players in LCS in their roles, maybe even the west considering how bad LEC tops and ADs look right now outside of BB and Comp.
@empty3696
@empty3696 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t discount Danny, Bwipo, and Hans sama (even if Danny hasn’t been tested yet). Upset as well for LEC.
@explorer678
@explorer678 2 жыл бұрын
Does fbi not exist 😂
@phong1990puppy
@phong1990puppy 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah FBI and Danny were popping off this week too
@IfWhatYes
@IfWhatYes 2 жыл бұрын
Berserker might need to catch an aphelios ban every game after today lmao
@explorer678
@explorer678 2 жыл бұрын
@@IfWhatYes dude is nuts and the church of LS is gaining a mass following 🙏🏿😂
@riotdopa5310
@riotdopa5310 2 жыл бұрын
u are joking with r5 rene right ?
@saintsataniko2116
@saintsataniko2116 2 жыл бұрын
If GG (or any Western team) were looking for the sort of selfish hard-carry Jungler that takes all the buffs and resources, they could have just gotten the better version and signed Dardoch (yet again).
@OwGash
@OwGash 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha, ls the ivern fanboy strikes
@meijelips9065
@meijelips9065 2 жыл бұрын
was ls behind the gnar pick? I swear he hates that champ
@luminous3558
@luminous3558 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't well practiced as a complete team yet due to the Visa situation that prevented the korean side from coming to NA until this month. So Berserker and Summit are on champions they are familiar with while Fudge gets to play the spicy picks. Gnar does the job here and Summit is good with it
@CD-zl1rl
@CD-zl1rl 2 жыл бұрын
Looked like GG lost the game more than C9 won the game, not to take anything away from C9. Fun stuff, looking forward to more.
@iv9573
@iv9573 2 жыл бұрын
I need LCS without all the screaming casters, can caed please do lcs casts aswell?!
@newage_vc4295
@newage_vc4295 2 жыл бұрын
well people just can't stop talking about C9 now i guess everyone wants the views. Dead region is back in action baby
@yannickokpara4861
@yannickokpara4861 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Caedrel was British. Why does he have a semi-german accent?
@mikaga1467
@mikaga1467 2 жыл бұрын
Is Pridestalkr just a Walmart Selfmade? A carry player that doesn't care about anything else
@WidgetWagyu47292
@WidgetWagyu47292 2 жыл бұрын
Yes lol
@STACHUIANDRZEJ
@STACHUIANDRZEJ 2 жыл бұрын
draft nirvana
@Alibeitai
@Alibeitai 2 жыл бұрын
but but but GG has lost
@Alibeitai
@Alibeitai 2 жыл бұрын
and that was before any clowning happened
@Mrlonefighter
@Mrlonefighter 2 жыл бұрын
Not followed LCS since worlds, who are all these random players on C9 and why is Fudge mid?
@drewgoff652
@drewgoff652 2 жыл бұрын
Perkz and Vulcan wanted out of C9 so they were looking for a new mid but instead they found Summit, the top laner for LSB in LCK and they decided that instead they could just get Summit and swap Fudge to mid. Winsome is a korean support who was born in the US so he has residency but idk much about him outside of that. LS is their new coach, probably no need to explain who he is. They also found Berserker, the academy adc for T1 and they decided to take him over Zven because they felt that Berserker had the most potential. Zven is still part of the team to an extent, they basically have a massive staff of people, including the academy team who are running an internal practice environment which Zven is part of.
@elome9122
@elome9122 2 жыл бұрын
who do you mean as random? Summit played lck for long and was always really good so fudge swaped to get him. Berserker was T1s Academy Adc looked pretty insane. Dont know much about the supp
@Mrlonefighter
@Mrlonefighter 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgoff652 thanks!
@drewgoff652
@drewgoff652 2 жыл бұрын
@@elome9122 tldr of what I said basically lmao
@Mrlonefighter
@Mrlonefighter 2 жыл бұрын
@@elome9122 I mean you kinda answered your own question. Their bot duo was unkown for me, and I guess I should have known the top
@jonathanluk4858
@jonathanluk4858 2 жыл бұрын
Repent blasphemous croc
@SSwarmachineX
@SSwarmachineX 2 жыл бұрын
lcs xD
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