I think tory and Robby will be on Daniels side this time and beat cobra kai or maybe Daniel will do the same and expand since he has a lot of money aswell.

BANZAI!

Chosen could easily beat silver

Chozen would mop the floor with any of them.

Yes

And watchmojo put Silver ahead of him 😂😂

It’s just an assumption. We’ve only seen chozen spar Daniel. Silver hasn’t trained for ages and he’s come back better than all of them. So no, you can’t put right say chozen would win so easily. It’s not clear at all. It’s just bias comments

@@IN2THEBARRIER I saw that too but based on Chozen continuing his Miyagi-Do ascension and Terry not training all those years. Chozen is the one to bring Silver down.

@@electriccowboy4747 He'd crush Silver, or Barnes, and is the biggest threat to CK.

Definitely. Danial is GOOD, don't get me wrong... but Danial's training was incomplete.

Heyyyy

Haha

Good one

True he is The Chozen

There it is, good job !

I agree. Mr. Miyagi had his battles in his old age, and Johnny with the rest of them are not as old as they seem.

Me too.

Well, I don't think that there being less focus on the tournament also means less focus on the students, but just as they are growing up themselves I could see them going through more mature storylines, instead of the typical high school ones. As already set up in Miguel's case, who is looking for his father.

I was just thinking that most of the kids will be out of high school by the time the next 18 & under tournament arrives.

@@UncleIJT so am I.

I was thinking that too

It's time Chad Mcqueen came out to reprise his role, at least for a cameo. I know he had scheduling conflicts but after 4 seasons, maybe he found some time

@Sakeleyhooh it was mentioned in one of the episodes when the old school Cobra Kai guys hung out

Smart.

When Amanda asked if he had anymore cobra Kai enemies that would try and ruin their lives, I think they were hinting at Dutch and not Barnes

Well, there is still a debate on whether Daniel was truly the innocent victim he claimed to be in the original film. Other than that, this fandom is pure.

No one insults their fan base like Star Wars, Trek, Marvel, DC, Disney has their fans. So Cobra Kai actually understands their fans and that is the #1 priority. At least in my eyes. Cobra Kai are the good guys/anti-heroes imo, bc they have the backstory. You understand Crease, Johnny(The real star of this series), Silver and eventually Barnes. Their back stories are filled with hardships and pain and trying to survive.

That is because the producers and creators listen to us and delivered besides bringing their own perspective. Not like Disney who experiment and play with our dreams, nostalgia etc

You’re actually right wow… feels weird, so used to hating everyone in a particular fan base lol

Just don’t let us talk about Sam😑

I agree. The most frustrating thing about season 3 was how Chozen only appeared in the one episode. He will fill the miyagi void and has such interesting possibilities. Can't wait for S5!

Yes I love him!💙

@@cocis911 Same with Kumiko. I'd like to see her briefly show up again, maybe on a video call?

Agreed. And that job was weird AF.

My Theory is that Tory will reach out to Amanda and also ask to speak with Daniel and Samantha as well. She will tell the Larusso's about Terry Silver bribing the ref. She will tell Samantha you are the real champion and give her the trophy. Sam is momentarily taken aback and speechless. This is their reconciliation.

@@jcastro1227 I would like to see Tory and Sam become friends or even best friends (similar to how Johnny and Daniel are now). Just like how Aiesha showed up in the one episode and told Sam how she was bullied by the one girl at her new school. But now they're best friends after introducing herself the the 'bully'.

Tory def has become sympathetic but the fact is she still broke into Sams house and started shit. You can’t just roll over and become pals with someone who’s mentally and physically scarred you.

@@Poezick88 That's what I mean by Tory and Amanda being on 'freindly' terms and not wanting Sam around if they had a chance to talk. I hope they might become friends, if Sam changes her attitude towards Tory (like how Daniel and Johnny are now).

Me too.

I agree, Chozen is the only to make Silver look like a idiot.

I don’t think Terry was trying to defeat Miyagi. His goal was to get Daniel to fight in the tournament. I think Terry just wanted rile Miyagi up enough to cause him to enter the tournament with Daniel. It worked. Look at Terry’s body language. He looked like he was having fun and not trying to beat someone up. Terry is probably better than we think.

@@MrChris-zb2bs Terry was on cocaine so no matter what he did he was having fun 😂

Me too.

I want to see Chozen fight MIKE BARNES.

He's not, Robby and Silver are.

@@radicalreactions1633 it's Johnny if you can describe cobra kai by one phrase is from Johnny's perspective

My favorite character is Demetri. We all have our own opinion.

@@stevendrumm4957 I forgive you.

Yes, I feel it's Johnny's show

On the facts said

Jullie?

@@abc4781 yes sorry

I think Chozen is needed to open up a new karate dojo, because Daniel and Johnny can't operate anymore. Terry Silver would retaliate horribly if Daniel or Johnny continued, and the only solution for them is to bring in a third person to start a new dojo, and group under him. No more Daniel nor Miyagi-do, no more Johhny nor Fang, but Chozen will be the sensei of the new dojo..

@@zvonimirtosic6171 Daniel-san already spoke on not honoring his end.

I think Chozen is needed to open up a new karate dojo, because Daniel and Johnny can't operate anymore. Terry Silver would retaliate horribly if Daniel or Johnny continued, and the only solution for them is to bring in a third person to start a new dojo, and group under him. Chozen will be the sensei of the new dojo..

Daniel already said he cant honor a commitment to someone who has no honor. He just needs help he doesnt need a diff dojo. There isnt another bet.

Assume for a moment that Chozen has decided to help Daniel fight against the Cobra Kai under Silvers. He creates the Sato-Do Dojo, and absorbs all of Eagle Fang and Miyagi-Do students under Sensei Chozen. Daniel and Johnny both know about this. Chozen isn't the sort to play games. He creates the emblem of the Sato-Do with the bonsai tree of Miyagi-Do, under a foreboding red sky, and dresses his students in dark grey gis, and teaches them Sato-Do, which is inspired by, and has full access to, all of Miyagi-Do. Silvers, confident that he has brought down both Dojos, continues on to the next tournament to make a name for Cobra Kai, and using Mike Barnes as lead sensei, since Silvers would rather pay to make the name great, than actually put the hard work into making a great dojo himself, begins teaching them the most destructive version of karate known to the valley. It is the sort that starts hemorrhaging kais, as they realize, like Tory does, she was a champion because someone bought off the ref. It hits her as a blow to her own self-confidence. She has a sit-down with Kreese, who knows exactly why Cobra Kai was usurped from him, also, and it appears that Kreese is on the path to understanding the wrongness in his nature, but has no idea what to do with that nature. Tory is lost. Robby, on the other hand, now has a sensei he is on all cylinders with. Robby is found to be a badly raised child that took on the mark of Cain in order to be even more vicious. Sam is trained by Chozen in secret, with only Daniel knowing outside of the training. LaRusso Auto is taking a hit from Silver's outside interference. meanwhile, Cobra Kai is down to a handful of students, of which Silvers thinks are the best students, which does include Tory and Robby. Kreese dies mysteriously the night before the tournament. In the tournament, Sam, a Sato-Do, beats Tory with little trouble, and Hawk, sporting a very different hair style, now, nearly beats Robby. Robby has been completely thrown, as he underestimates Hawk, attempts a cheap shot Hawk anticipates, which causes Robby to rage out on his final point. Miguel fights Robby. Miguel has been playing a strategy of hiding his best moves through the tournament, and looking like a contender that is easier than Hawk. Robby even scores a point on Miguel, and causing Miguel to feign injury so Robby locks onto that spot, but in the next spar, Miguel puts the heat on Robby, and Robby is put off balance, again. But there is no sudden death. Miguel reveals he is far better than Robby, and makes it obvious as he takes the next 2 points. Cobra Kai has lost again. Silvers snaps at Barnes, about how his teachings are nothing. Silvers abandons Cobra Kai, reverting it back into John Kreese's control, but again, Kreese dies, and an indemnity clause Kreese signs places Cobra Kai back to Johnny Lawrence. Johnny starts off the next season lost and found at the same time. He found Miguel, and has been a more or less surrogate dad to him, now that Miguel knows who and what his real father is like, but he needs to find Robby, and try to reconcile with him, and try to turn him from Darkness. Johnny meets with Chozen, and asks him what he is missing from his teachings. In simultaneous fashion, and unbeknownst to Johnny, Robby has sought Chozen out and asked him similar questions. We see a side by side comparison that suggests, Johnny and Robby are not so different at all. Chozen tells both of them to seek each other out. As for any battles that occur between Johnny, Kreese, Silvers, Daniel, Chozen or Barnes, I can only speculate, but we likely will see Barnes seek out Chozen after being embarrassed, only to get his ass whooped by Chozen.

I'm not sure if Chozen is going to have a legit beef with anyone. I think Kreese will side with Johnny and Daniel. Kreese and Silver will be the big battle. Lawrence vs Barnes? Daniel and Chozen focus on training?

@@mr.e1026 Barnes VS Chozen/ Silvers is going to be EPIC .. I CANNOT WAIT to watch that fight scene

Hopefully they film season 6 and 7 back to back.

Originally with KZfaq. The creators had 5 seasons of materiel ready. Now that Netflix has it who knows how many more they can do!

@@UncleIJT I think Ralph M. said the writers had 7 seasons of material. Usually Netflix shows are suppose to last 3 season max unless they are a big hit. If they continue they can reach 6-7 seasons at least. Writers also said they have spins off in mind if it ever ends. Im thinking maybe Miyagi’s life during WW2 would be cool.

Love this

I wonder if Chozen is going to training Daniel in his Style of fighting so Daniel could have better chance against Trey silver

@Handsome Monarchist I know back in season 3 Chozen show him some that Daniel use against fighting Kreese so I'm looking forward to seeing what Chozen karate will teach Daniel to use against Silver or Mike Barnes

I'd love to see Kyler bullying Kenny not realizing Shawn is standing right behind him

@@tarjji So basically you want to see Shawn beat up Kyler, right? That would be AWESOME!!!! Lets Go!!!

@@littlejonathorn6860 I can see it happening!!!

@@tarjji Same

There are. In s.4 episode 9 there were other dojos present

There were ten dojos that competed in the 2019 All Valley tournament in episodes 9 and 10 of season 4. In addition to Cobra Kai, Miyagi Do, and Eagle Fang, there is Topanga Karate, All Star Karate, Locust Valley Karate, and four others.

Robby and Miguel will both be under Johnny

@@Crow-nc1oo step-brothers?

That could happen. Interesting theory.

I'm sure Stingray will tell the cops the truth at some point.

DNA in the wounds on Stingray and Silver, or Lynn as a witness, but it WILL be a 'surprise element.' Maybe Demetri will get a clue and sleuth it. And it will take a YEAR for us to find out!

DNA? Seriously? Is this NCIS or Cobra Kai?

Remember the cameras that were in the Dojo? Hmmmm? Yall are taking it WAY too far with these theories.

That's whack. They've already filmed it. Why take a year for post for a single season?

Whack indeed. These men aren't getting any younger.

@@DarthPyrusTheVirus It's Netflix decision. They might decide on a December launch and it's looking likely. If all goes well possibly around August-september could be earliest.

If Netflix wanted they could easily release it then Summer, but unfurtionally Netflix has a history of releasing stuff later than necessary.

@@speedy3702 Yeah. They might follow the usual pattern of December either way.

Good points.

Terry being the lead antagonist doesn't mean Kreese is redeemed, but Kreese saved Johnny and his relationship with Tory seems genuine, like a caring father. I think there's still potential for a Kreese-redemption. I wonder if his storyline in prison brings out Dutch in s5

@@tarjji I think Kreece may be redeemed but it's going to take a lot of smart writing to accomplish it. Kreece was attempting to kill Daniel in the season 3 finale and possibly Johnny as well.

@@waynegotke5502 Yeah, it would take confession, repentance (like Hawk), and a huge chivalrous act- perhaps risking his life to save Robby and Sam

@@tarjji I had wondered whether he would cross paths with Dutch. I guess it depends on whether he goes to county lockup or the prison.

That would make sense! I don't see Silver being an opponent for Chozen. I think Silver is going to fight Kreese. Silver vs Kreese, and Lawrence vs Barnes.

@@danlc95 I think there's going to be three "teams" to match up. Daniel & Chozen vs Barnes and Silver. Johnny and Kreese vs Barnes and Silver. So the rivalry will go both ways and there's going to be tension between Daniel & Chozen and Johnny & Kreese.

I don't think Kim Sun-Yung perverted anything, but rather that Kreese was taught the pure form and gradually corrupted it by injecting his twisted Cobra Kai philosophy. It would be interesting if a relative of Kim Sun-Yung would find out about Cobra Kai and travel to America to find and confront Kreese and Silver about ruining their (great) grandfather's martial arts legacy. This has actually happened in real life, when a martial arts family from Japan found out one of their former students started teaching a watered down version of their style in his McDojo in America, ruining their family name and reputation by handing out black belts to basically anyone who could afford one.

Cobra Kia? I want that car!

Yeah, he negotiated 50% on winning the all valley, that didn't happen, so no deal!! He may return for a chance and bump into Chozen who he won't recognise and get his arse kicked. But you never know, Daniel may accept his half arsed apologies for his behaviour, yeah right!!

Maybe he will join the other bozos in trying to bully some of Daniels students, and Hawk and Tori will save the day...... pmsl.

Yip. We all know Terry Silver he will try to manipulate a student and the way I see it, it will either be Sam or Antonio.. I think when Cobra Kai ends it will be Johnny & Daniel who runs it

Season 4 started to feel a bit formulaic, so they'll need to shake it up.

Bingo.

Chozen wouldn't use pressure points against him, but I would want silver vs Chozen the most

Literally nothing you said makes sense.

@@rotten2209 What wasn't clear?

@@ronniepooch Kreese didn't murder his Sergeant, it was his Captain and it was a situation forced upon both of them in being prisoners of war.

@@mattbross6517 Wasn't help on it's way... and instead of saving him... he stomped on his hand letting him die in that vat of cobras? Seems like murder to me.

I don't think it's too "forced" to bring back Julie Pierce. She may already know Daniel and may have trained with him, as Daniel hinted in season 2

I see Kreese redemption happen in season 5 because during season 4 he had flashback of Kreese tell Johnny to play dirt but he told Tory to do what she wants so I have this feeling Kreese redemption Arc will happen in season 5 and that he would want to get back at silver

It needs to end at 6 seasons, otherwise it will just get silly and devoid of passion.

@@johntrevy1 yeah that sounds about right

With only 10 episodes a season, there is more than enough time for two or more without jumping the proverbial shark

6 season need to be the end

We can forget about Dutch making an appearance in the show. It’s been confirmed that Chad McQueen has no intention of being on the series and anything to do with Dutch will be by word of mouth only. However I can see Julie making a cameo at some point.

He'd have no trouble with Silver.

Suppose if chozen don't know that technique then who will win

It was nothing more than a handshake deal. It means less than nothing. Especially when the cheating/paying the ref off comes to light which you know it will.

That is by far the worst take I’ve ever seen, Terry Silver on the run and it’s up to Daniel and the crew to catch him? Wtf? This is Cobra Kai lmao. And what do you mean this season proved that tournaments mean nothing? Did you even watch the show?

I actually like your Tory-mole theory. I could see Sam possibly defending Tory if she were attacked. Something to cement the relationship.

@@jjhoffy Your take on my take is by far the worst take I’ve ever seen. (See how much of a jerk you sound like?) I’m not saying the police hire them, but this show (and the movies) hinged largely on vigilante justice. To say this is a bad take is crapping on the almost the entire franchise… almost the entire genre. Remember when Robby was on the run? Who was it up to to bring him in? The police? Nope. Daniel and Johnny. See, they’ve done it similarly already. You trashed the show’s writing without realizing it. Truth be told, though, Kreese and Silver will probably end up having a fight in a dangerous situation that results in them both falling to their death or something. Cobra Kai dies with its founders in the same way it was born. Kreese may not get the happy ending a lot of the fans may want for him after his redemption.

I doubt Silver go on the run for bribing a judge for a teenage karate tournament or jail time lol..The most that would happen he has to pay a fine that would be like pocket change to him and Cobra Kai has to forfeit that championship

@@keldorthebluemack Very possible, I’m just hyped for how the series as a whole ends. It either ends with redemption or revenge. I can’t wait.

Yes..well said 💐

That is going to be part of Chozen redemption arch.....to do just that

I think Chozen is needed to open up a new karate dojo, because Daniel and Johnny can't operate anymore. Terry Silver would retaliate horribly if Daniel or Johnny continued in some way, and the only solution for them is to bring in a third person to start a new dojo, and group under him. Chozen will be the sensei of the new dojo..

Barnes will come for sure but I don't think julie will come because she doesn't have any interaction with Daniel . but u r right she could come if Daniel and her somehow connect and they realize that miyagi taught both of them. it could be something like that but let's see. I'm so hyped for season 5!!!!

Urm what about S4 Miguel though? Would that change your top 10 or nah?

@@Tsuki-Sii I personally think S2 Miguel was at his strongest. Even though he learned Miyagi Do at S4, he was still physically more vulnerable

The bad guys need an overpowered fighter to rival Chozen, perhaps Mike Barnes has trained his whole life too, perhaps hes ready to play with Daniel again!!!

@@bullyduckuire That would be sick! I personally think it's gonna be more of a quality (Miyagi Do) with one dojo vs quantity (Cobra Kai) with a lot of dojo's. I also think that each CK dojo will have its own sensei (Terry Silver on top of them with Mike Barnes maybe as its second in command)

I agree a main character will probably die at some point during season 5...i think it'll be silver or kreese that dies

Kreese will team up with Daniel to take silver down. He was beginning to realize how bad he’s behaved.

Yea. Johnny didn't know Silver. He definitely underestimated his abilities. After that first altercation, I still think Johnny would beat Silver 9/10 times.

😂😂😂😂 excuses excuses johnny got his ass kicked. He recovered enough. Stop the bullshit

@@rotten2209 weed is a hell of drug😂😂 johhny almost got killed by kreese. He supposed to beat sliver now

@@ressestevenson7309 that's okay chozen will take care of silver then Johnny can take him down too

Unless Chozen has a rival who has also a grill been training all his life....Mike Barnes could be like an evil Mr Myagi!

Yes but this channel is obsessed with Barnes.

Barnes was a karate mercenary fighting in tournaments around US. As for has been, we don't know what established backstory there is for him for last 35+ years. Could be he is world renowned/taught military (like sato/chozen) or is under the Silver payroll in some capacity. Fact is, why wouldn't they, and why shouldn't they?