Frame Rust Hammer Test: 1985 Toyota Pickup Truck 4wd

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4 жыл бұрын

Today were looking at my 1985 Toyota, which I bet you think is pristine from previous videos. But there’s an ugly side to this Ohio truck. We’re going to take a look at the frame. And see how it holds up to the hammer test.
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@christopherwaits7852 3 жыл бұрын

It’s too hot, there’s 6 fires burning around me, the gas prices are insane, and they tax us for everything they can. But the ONE good thing about CA is no salt on the roads. My ‘94 Pickup is spotless as is my grandma’s’ 95 T100, and Toyota’s are all over the place here. Would definitely recommend buying one out west. Lots of them still kicking

@6thGearGarage 3 жыл бұрын

#1 comment right here... Pinning it so everyone will see!

@JonnyDIY 3 жыл бұрын

The poor Yotas only Fatal flaw / Achilles heel 😭 My 88 is rock solid, but only because its been California car it's whole life

@DirtGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Have not even watched this yet, and I already don't want to... That truck is sooo nice!

@DirtGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Yikes! Got to the hammer claw going through. That sucks, I'm so glad my frame has been proving to be solid. When I do the 63 swap on my truck I'm thinking I might plate the rear frame arches just as preventative maintenance.

@DirtGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Sidenote: Are you removing the cab and restoring the frame again just like before? Looking forward to the repair videos, as much as it sucks.. But it's just a part of working on these old trucks.

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

I’m going to try to do it with the cab on, since it’s just the one spot. I’m used to the rust by now.... Yota life!

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

The only thing that makes me not want to plate is that you can’t tell how bad the frame is rusting inside of the plate. I guess I like to see when it’s bad but then it needs fixed right away. That would mean wheeling downtime for you, so plating will keep you on the trail longer.

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Just drill some bigger drain holes on the bottom 👍

@matthieucorbeilwalsh 4 жыл бұрын

Did the same thing on my Quebec's 86 SR5 last week.. this is so heart breaking. Rebuild the engine, and now i decided to take the cab and bed off so I can open the whole frame and recap it.

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a lot of work, but we’ll worth owning a yota👍

@ktcopyguy 4 жыл бұрын

Minnesota...2001 Tacoma... same .. I used a air hammer & welded in Safe-T- Cap frame sections ... pressure washed the inside of the frame rails, vacuum all the rust chunks out, and sprayed POR15 inside..

@Crankaholic 4 жыл бұрын

And here I am feeling bad about some rust on my floors and quarter panels. At least my frame I clean!

@mike921132 4 жыл бұрын

Wow the rust, i work at my local toyota dealership im from san diego ca. and its always a trip to see out of state pickups with crazy rust because we dont see that much sometimes it makes me glad i have only surface rust on my pickup yet it worries me even though its not as savage as road salt state pickups

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I only had your surface rust. I need to buy a 1 way ticket to CA the next time I shop for a Toyota.

@1873Winchester Жыл бұрын

That rust scaling getting under the POR-15 is why I keep doing treatments with Dinitrol ML every year. It softens up the layer of underseal too and gets under it where it does it's rust stopping thing, as long as the rust hasn't gone too far.

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

I've had good luck with POR15 on new metal that was etched with the POR-15 prep spray, but it seems like going over rust does exactly what you describe, to the point it needs ground down and re-done after 10 years.

@rickc303 4 жыл бұрын

The cab of my 1985 Toyota 2wd has rotted floorboards from years of leaking cowl but sits on an otherwise rust free frame. Also some shoddy bondo repair. I found a nearly rust free 1988 cab, on an even cleaner frame. With 8" axle, 4spd transmission, dash and HVAC (also A/C truck), rolls on own 4 wheels, has all steering/suspension components, involved in minor front end collision (no frame damage). No engine, driveshaft, doors, seats and needs front clip. Also has sliding rear window and sunroof And a clear title. All for $150. So in was first going to cab swap onto my 1985, but now going to just register the 1988 and rebuild it using the parts from 1985. As a bonus, the 1985 was originally "cream" (and still indicates on title) but later repainted white. While the 1988 was originally white. So I now technically own 2 80s Toyota trucks. I'm in Georgia and yeah, that rusty frame reminds me of growing up in NY. Vehicles here can be 30yo and look new underneath, just to get crushed anyway *edit I'm not even going to bother POR15 the frame. Not only seeing this was very disappointing, but the original black paint is still good on both my frames. Just like my Jeep, Krylon rust tough semi flat black is perfect match, so will just get repainted with that after a basic wash down. The Toyota is a 2wd street driven truck, not mud etc

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

You stole it for $150! Yeah if I buy another Yota, I'm shopping down south. So tired of dealing with rust.

@Gabriel-nd3fo 3 жыл бұрын

I had the same thing happen to my 89' 4runner with POR15 [Probably due to me applying not very well]. I have done my 84' pickup in Rust Bullet and it seams to go on easier and has held up pretty good over the last few years.

@6thGearGarage 3 жыл бұрын

For as expensive as POR15 is, I think I'm going to try something different next time.

@dc5723 4 жыл бұрын

My 1993 Yota still has the Ziebart rust proofing I got when we bought the truck new in 1993. The frame still looks pristine and only some spot rusts on the roof of the cab from rocks flying on the freeway and hitting it. I live in Honolulu so not much rust unless a vehicle went into the ocean.

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

I went to Honolulu a couple times and was surprised how many clean Yotas I saw out there. You guys take good care of your trucks.

@Matty4.0 4 жыл бұрын

Sick truck

@EcBuddy123 4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of using rust Mort or another route of rust chemical converter that makes the rust convert into primer. Look forward to seeing what you end up using

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

I think I’ll try something other than POR 15 this time, since it isn’t UV resistant.

@funfactor5 4 жыл бұрын

My Canadian 84 had to have complete new frame built from the front fenders back. It can be done. I’ve done it!! New frame is built way stronger then stock!

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Its worth it to own a Yota 👍

@defconb7 4 жыл бұрын

POR 15 - "We know what permanent means." (10 years or less)

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

I will say though, most of the bad areas were applied by the previous owner, so it's possible he didn't clean/prep the frame properly.

@buildadventure404 4 жыл бұрын

Time for you to go down south and pick up a frame (or full truck)... even an IFS and do a solid axel swap

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

That would be perfect👍

@ilikelampshades6 2 жыл бұрын

Get it professionally Wax Olyed. In the UK is wet all year round with salt on the roads and cars usually rot away before the mechanical parts give up. My new Hilix will get wax olyed every few years. It should be part of a vehicle service

@azeissler1987 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to see your frame is getting a little spotty.. but sooo awesome that you're going to fix it! My frames all look very nice but I am in California and my 4runners are from CA

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

If I ever buy another, I’m getting a 1 way ticket to CA

@azeissler1987 4 жыл бұрын

@@6thGearGarage Let me know, I see 85 and 84's for sale all the time in butte county

@b-dawg3518 2 жыл бұрын

I'm in Mississippi and bought a original 88 with 155400 the tag says Louisiana and its been sitting for 8 years and everything solid as a rock except the gas tank it was terrible

@Mudmowerdiesel 4 жыл бұрын

Nice channel

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

@ramblerclassicman221 3 жыл бұрын

So glad Montana doesn’t salt their roads with sodium chloride or potash - lye mixture.

@rafaelpineda95 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man I just recently got a 84 toyota pickup currently fixing it up and was wondering if you had any back glass for sale for a single cab I have the extended cab back glass but it is apparently larger if you want it let me know

@6thGearGarage 3 жыл бұрын

I do have a spare std cab rear glass. I'd trade you if you were local, but don't really want to ship them.

@rafaelpineda95 3 жыл бұрын

@@6thGearGarage ok that's cool I understand but hey I cold use your expertise. Do 85 toyota have flat leaf springs in the front il take a picture tomorrow but they worry me because the look inverted please help

@nathansims8005 4 жыл бұрын

Being a fellow Toyota owner in Wisconsin it hurts to see the frames melting away like that. My 4Runner is pretty decent for the age but will be there soon unfortunately. Are you going to stick with POR15? Mine is peeling off after 2 years and 5 coats. I fluid film every year and that seems to help quite a bit.

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

POR was the best for ages but there is a lot of competition now. I’ll probably try something different since POR is not UV resistant. POR ain’t cheap either!

@funfactor5 4 жыл бұрын

6th Gear Garage por15 holds up much better if you immediately coat it with good UV safe chasis paint. You have to do it within the flash off period otherwise you need to sand it.

@4x4rcoff-roadtractors54 4 жыл бұрын

That's the only thing that sucks about having a boxed in frame yes the frame might be stronger and not Flex as much but in the salt belt where I live I live in New England they try to rot from the inside out like my 2000 Dodge Ram it's got a box in frame from the cab forward and that's where some of the little problems have been the back part of the frame is acorns channel it's perfectly fine I got the same problem I think you're having with this Toyota I think their frames of box in from front to rear and they rushed from the inside out like you said you dirty little Critters and are dropping acorns and everything else next thing you know the trucks eating itself from the inside out the only way like I said spray some oil on the inside the frame

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

I think Toyota finally learned after all these rusty frames... the new Tacoma frames are boxed up front but the back half is C channel.

@4x4rcoff-roadtractors54 4 жыл бұрын

@@6thGearGarage yeah that's time I 2000 Dodge Ram is but the front half can still rust from the inside that's why I cook the inside with a while and blow it out with compressed air for a feisty this build up for Stuff

@bastianpaul2538 2 жыл бұрын

Hi my name is Bastian I have a 1981 Toyota pickup truck I can't send you a video because it's at a shop mechanic shop plus I also live in Colorado which we don't get road salt around here all we have is chloride which we live out in the dunes in Delta I'm pretty sure it's we actually the truck has stayed in Colorado ever since we've got it it had a hole in the floor but we replace that with an 86 4Runner floor pan.

@KiyaWarrior 3 жыл бұрын

Fuck it, just send it til it falls apart brother.

@casiermarty5176 3 жыл бұрын

hello, do you think the 1.8 22r engine is reliable? and is what suits the hilux pick up? Thanks you

@6thGearGarage 3 жыл бұрын

all 22R engines are 2.4L. If you found a 1.8, it's not the 22R.

@casiermarty5176 3 жыл бұрын

@@6thGearGarage Thank you for your reply. I would like to buy a 1983-88 hilux. I must have been wrong. I found a hilux with 148k miles, is there a charge for this mileage?

@6thGearGarage 3 жыл бұрын

casier marty 148k is low mileage considering the age of the truck.

@casiermarty5176 3 жыл бұрын

@@6thGearGarage thank you, I am not used to this type of vehicle and rare in my country. I would like to import one. and in my country it's already a lot of kilometers. I am reassured, thanks you

@davidpadilla4120 3 жыл бұрын

Waooo si.estaba destrozado se puede reconstruir

@eddi7359 4 жыл бұрын

So I bought an 86 dully box truck extra cab.. sounds weird right? It was a pick up that was dully swapped and has the 4 speed auto..100k Miles with an rebuilt motor

@x2Dubz 4 жыл бұрын

Are you sure it was dually swapped? Some of them were factory dually

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome, never seen an extra cab dually before.

@eddi7359 4 жыл бұрын

@@x2Dubz 95% sure your right some came..but with body kits and single cabs..mines an extra cab with no kit

@eddi7359 4 жыл бұрын

@@6thGearGarage me neither..the last owner look like he took care of it..I bought it from a guy who bought it from an auction 15 years ago,it was wrecked on the driver side,but never did anything with it and sat for 14 years until he told me, started right up in his dirt lot, has a clean interior that shows it age but still a trooper

@eddi7359 4 жыл бұрын

@@6thGearGarage also thanks for the video about removing the back window lol I was fixing the rust on the Piller..it's a Cali truck but the big ol box kept the water near the window and made it rot, but I removed the box and it's going to be a flat bed

@dylansnyder7757 4 жыл бұрын

It could always be worse. My brother bought a 2000 2wd Tacoma for the engine and the truck broke in half getting on the trailer

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Damn, I haven’t had that happen yet, knock on wood

@1873Winchester Жыл бұрын

I'm also wondering, why do they have all the holes on the sides for crap to get into? Why not soley have drain holes on the bottom.

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

I've always wondered that as well. Maybe for air flow ventilation to dry out the inside? Or maybe so people will need to buy another truck one day? (not me, I'll replace this frame section by section to keep this truck on the road!)

@1873Winchester Жыл бұрын

@@6thGearGarage Do you have yearly inspections where you live? I was wondering why there seem to be so many cars here (Finland) from the 80s and still intact despite salt usage. I was wondering if it's because of the yearly inspections. If you want to keep your car on the road here you need that and I realized that on both my cars in the last few years the inspector went under the car with a pointy hammer and nkocked on the frame all over to look for rust spots. And he found a few places too I didn't know about so I had to get that welded before the car would pass. Just made me realize if not for that my car might've rusted apart without me knowing and gone too far to save. So maybe it helps keeps cars from getting too bad.

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

@@1873Winchester I live in Ohio, where there are no inspections, aside from emissions in some counties. There can be rust holes throughout the vehicle, but of all the lights work properly, then the police will not care. However the next state over is Pennsylvania and they do have annual inspections which will fail a vehicle due to rust holes on the body.

@marblesand863 4 жыл бұрын

Where can I find parts for a 1986 Toyota Pickup? Mine's an SR5 Turbo

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

What parts are you looking for? I find that the dealership still carries a lot of parts. Anything else I look for on ebay if I don't have it on a parts truck.

@marblesand863 4 жыл бұрын

Im lookin for some really specific door panels, like my panels have cut outs for a different style of window switches than yours. The switches are on the arm rests of the panel. Also, I need to replace all the weather stripping and vacuum hoses

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

@@marblesand863 I've never seen door panels like those. They may be a rare option?

@adambrown952 3 жыл бұрын

@@marblesand863 i have a 1987 turbo xtra cab 2wd in southeast pa with the fancy door panels

@marblesand863 3 жыл бұрын

@@adambrown952 you willing to sell me some parts??😂

@KiyaWarrior 3 жыл бұрын

Bought my 7.3l in Arizona and my FZJ80 in Texas.... so... yeah I got solid frames still :) Both are practically rust free. Sorry bud about Ohio.

@6thGearGarage 3 жыл бұрын

P A I need to start going south west to buy my Toyotas

@JoelzombieThomas 4 жыл бұрын

If I lived in salty road areas, I would be plotting to fabricate a stainless steel frame. I wonder if anyone's done that.

@JoelzombieThomas 4 жыл бұрын

also, you can weld SS to mild steel, so I bet you could patch in SS until you have an all SS frame!

@6thGearGarage 4 жыл бұрын

That would be the way to go... full stainless by the year 2055!

@4x4rcoff-roadtractors54 4 жыл бұрын

I need the same stuff on my 2000 Dodge Ram and some of it's coming off I found the best thing to save frames is surprise surprise chainsaw oil or any type of oil are you dumb 88 Dodge set the frame together cuz you were there's a hole in it just kept grease on it never trusted it never could rust again and I did the same on my 2000 Dodge Ram I sprayed oil in the inside the frame where you can't get paint