Revenge Of The Prequels Episode 2 Part 2 - Star Wars Only

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5 жыл бұрын

Revenge Of The Prequels Episode 2 Part 2 A Response Series That Takes A Retrospect Look At the Star Wars Prequel Hatred Between 2009- 2017 And Debunking A LOT of Really Stupid Arguments
This Episode Is Part 2 Regarding STAR WARS ONLY & His Video WHY THE STAR WARS PREQUELS SUCK
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@rhizvo108
@rhizvo108 5 жыл бұрын
Alec Guinness sword fights in a new hope and everyone gives it a pass for what it is because Alec is an older gentleman and they’re working with what they have. Ian McDermott tops that fight times 1000 and the crew works with what they can. Everyone: “IT SUCKS BECAUSE ITS THE PREQUELS!!!”
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
you nailed it
@thegoodgeneral1174
@thegoodgeneral1174 4 жыл бұрын
I always loved that fight, it showed Palpatine's powers of manipulation, and also his inhuman abilities, while showing that he's not unthesable like Rey, as he is beaten in a Saber fight by Mace Windu, but his manipulation that was set up in the previous movie, and previous scenes like the opera scene is what saves him, and makes Anakin his own personal flying monkey, destroying the Jedi that he is, and creating to Darth Vader.
@megamike15
@megamike15 4 жыл бұрын
i always saw it as obi having not fought in years and he is out of practice. it's clear vader can still fight as seen in empire.
@aaron75fy
@aaron75fy 4 жыл бұрын
@@megamike15 on top of that having been broken all this time, both from having the entire order he served obliterated and his own padawan turning
@thethoughtcriminal8786
@thethoughtcriminal8786 4 жыл бұрын
+Rhizvo It wasn't that at all. The biggest problem was the lightsabres would break if they hit them together too hard. Alec Guinness actually took the time to learn to fence, just like the rest of them. They were also going for the classic fencing styles of old classic "swashbuckler" films. The quality of fencing has been exaggerated in the last forty years. They have become overly choreograph pieces of crap like the Matrix. And this is from a guy who loves the Matrix...all three of them. "Duel of the fates" is one of the best choreographed fencing scenes I have seen in cinematic film, with a matching sound track. But more importantly it isn't overly choreographed, there are scenes in The Revenge of the Sith that are so fucking retarded that people love to make memes about them kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLN8lcimuM6qaKc.html . In my view if you have to shit on Guinness to prop up the prequels you are no better then the Disney assholes who shit of Lucas's work to defend their shitty films or the OT assholes who deliberately elaborate to piss on the prequels. The fact is, the duel in The Phantom Menace doesn't need to be defended, it stands for itself, and anyone worth there salt knows this, and any asshole who gives it a low rating is only showing their bias. Myself for example, I know that I am bias toward the duel in Empire, not because the choreography is better, but for its time, the atmosphere of the sets were fucking amazing and my favourite line from the entire saga is in that scene. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZuPd65mqLzQpHk.html . As a child that sent chills down my spine that have resonated my entire life. I feel for children who grew up loving the prequels, who were told that they were crap, but in the same breath, it makes you resolute, it makes the films yours and nobody can take that away from you. I like many B-movies because they have something about them I like, and I like the fact they are not popular because it makes them mine. As a Star Wars fan, Star Wars has never been far from me...I'm sure you feel this way too. But we know most people see Star Wars as nothing more then mindless entertainment, and the fuckers are the worst...their the assholes who prop up RLM. They the ones who like something because it's popular and then shit all over it when they are done with it. ‎That's the kind of shit heel Mike Stoklasa is at RLM. He melted down $20,000 worth of vintage Star Wars figures just to fuck with the fans. They could have sold them and donated the money to charity, actually do something good in the world...but they are a bunch of assholes. But people keep watching their videos. I've wondered how many people hate on Disney Star Wars just because of them, just because its cool to hate on Star Wars. Fun fact, most combat scenes with Ian McDermott are cut up close and short. Even the first time I saw The Lord of the Ring one of the first things I noticed was just how much of the fight was sped up. Looks great, but noticeable. You can't compare modern film where the technology was built to make films look amazing, too a time were films with a lot of actions shots had to be done in one or two takes. A lot of OT fanboys hold the original Star Wars, and Empire to a high standard because it changed cinematic history, changed the way films are made, and Lucas helped advance the technology that is used of films till this very day.
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 5 жыл бұрын
The scene with Han running while yelling while chasing a few storm troopers was funny honestly
@SH-fx6ks
@SH-fx6ks 4 жыл бұрын
I love that scene because its funny, but also Han grows from that hot headed character who runs into situations like that to someone cautious who formulates a plan first, in RoTJ.
@firestriker3580
@firestriker3580 4 жыл бұрын
Nah
@kiddmode
@kiddmode 2 жыл бұрын
It’s even funnier when Lucas added the army of stormtroopers in the background for the special edition
@xFlareLeon
@xFlareLeon 4 жыл бұрын
Did SWO forget that "I am your father" was a meme for YEARS before the Prequels started? The twist was ruined for me long before I even knew what Star Wars was! Countless parodies and references cheapened that moment for a lot of 90s kids like me. The prequels didn't ruin the twist, pop culture did.
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 4 жыл бұрын
The twist couldn't hold the same power when it was sure to be known. Honestly that's not even a problem worth saying, the fact of the matter is that any twist has only momentary power that is sure to be spoiled to later audiences. Meaning you need to write without relying on a twist as a crutch. The OT doesn't need that twist (Edit for clarity: to be a surprise to the audience) to work, it was the cherry on top of an already great dish.
@extratao50
@extratao50 3 жыл бұрын
This 👏👏👏👏👏👏 i still got hyped and jumped from my set when i watched that scene 😂🤘 is so good knowing the twist or not
@TheGamingAngel18
@TheGamingAngel18 5 жыл бұрын
“Anakin is so whiny!!!!” Says the guy whining about Anakin. Also I never understood this complaint. He’s not whining about Obi-Wan not letting him go pod racing or some shiz. He’s ranting, having an emotional breakdown, because his mother DIED IN HIS ARMS and he failed to save her THEN he goes and SLAUGHTERS AN ENTIRE VILLAGE in pure raw unadulterated rage. And you SWO and every other RLM shill see an emotional breakdown as...just whining. Pretty disingenuous if you ask me. So what he’s not supposed to be upset he just committed a multiple counts of murder and his mother just died???? K....
@spongylord7131
@spongylord7131 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen TPM a dozen times each and I promise you Anakin is whiney. But it’s a facial acting thing and I think the writing and motivation is all there. But seriously Anakin looked like he needed a snot bubble all through 3. Better directing or alternate takes there could have really helped.
@captainbeastwinger4940
@captainbeastwinger4940 4 жыл бұрын
Also he later says you would think Anakin would be b More like his son did he watch a new hope
@G0ldbl4e
@G0ldbl4e 4 жыл бұрын
Anakin is so whiny for having his enslaved mother sold off and murdered. Luke is whiny because he can't go to Tasche Station with his friends. Nobody at all complains about Luke
@keelobrown4991
@keelobrown4991 4 жыл бұрын
@@spongylord7131 you can promise us but cant give us any examples of why anakin is whiny? Pretty sound logic there... also you say TPM. When Anakin was.. 10 years old! Wtf do you expect a 10 year old slave to behave like?
@azureangel8217
@azureangel8217 4 жыл бұрын
@Revan facts
@ReonMagnum
@ReonMagnum 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, Star Wars Only bitching about the scene where Anakin lets loose of his feelings. Doesn't he realize that: A). Anakin just violated the Jedi Code and killed sentient beings out of anger and hate, something he was trained not to do. B). He clearly regretted doing that as a Jedi and as a person. He didn't enjoy the slaughter at all. Dude, killing Sand People isn't badass. Jedi are WAY more powerful than Sand People, so killing them is like murdering toddlers. Darth Vader in his suit slaughtering Tusken Raiders also isn't badass, no matter how you spin it.
@ShamblesMD
@ShamblesMD 5 жыл бұрын
I love how desensitized that nutbag is to a bunch of toddlers being ripped to shreds by their guardian and hero.
@JohnWilliams-wl9px
@JohnWilliams-wl9px 4 жыл бұрын
ReonMagnum My problem with the Anakin talking about killing the Sand people is because it makes the romance seem more awkward. I personally would have preferred if Anakin purposeful omits how far he took his revenge on them. Saying something like “I took my revenge on the ones who killed my mom, I enjoyed I shouldn’t have!.”. Since Padme will still feel sorry and would say something like “don’t worry they deserved it”. Unintentionally providing support his actions. Then in 3 when Palpatine talks about how Anakin told him he shouldn’t feel bad about killing Dooku like the sand people. This would add to how close Anakin and the Chancellor are that he tell him that. Then later when Anakin finds out Palpatine is a Sith, Palpatine could drop the fact that Anakin told him he also slaughter the woman and children. Cause it show really how much Anakin looked up to Palpatine that he confined into him his dark secret. Plus it add value to the scene where he kills the sand people, in the original cut it be the same in theater. Since a repeat viewing leaving now makes the scene even scarier now because now you know he slaughter everyone in that tribe.
@megamike15
@megamike15 4 жыл бұрын
anakin also never told anyone besides padme he did this. as it would lead to him being exiled from the order at best. this one event is very important.
@JohnWilliams-wl9px
@JohnWilliams-wl9px 4 жыл бұрын
megamike15 He told Palpatine, who uses it to assure him that killing Dooku was ok.
@kevincorey4406
@kevincorey4406 5 жыл бұрын
When did we decide that “emotionally conflicted” equals “whiney”?
@ertymexx
@ertymexx 4 жыл бұрын
When macho jingoism got to be the new thing, I suppose. :-/
@DemonicRemption
@DemonicRemption 3 жыл бұрын
@@ertymexx How long ago was that? Because I recall "whiney" being synonymous with emotionally conflicted, anger, and brooding as far back as 2006 or so.
@bigdoubleu117
@bigdoubleu117 5 жыл бұрын
I hate when people say they hate the Prequels but love the Clone Wars cartoon. The reasons they give for hating the Prequels are because it focuses a lot on politics, they hate Jar Jar Binks and the cringe worthy love dialog. What they like to forget about is that the cartoon has the exact same stuff and I don't understand why it gets a pass. In the cartoon rewatch some of the scenes where Anakin and Padme are talking to each other and there is still some cringe dialog between the two of them in the cartoon. Then there are full episodes specifically focusing on only politics and others where Jar Jar Binks is the main character of the episode.
@choueriito2548
@choueriito2548 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who finds The Clone Wars good and finds the prequels to be good ideas but with varying executions of them, I'll weigh in on that matter. The politics in the prequels weren't a real problem. If anything, they and Palpatine's rise to power held the potential to enrich the story. The problem with them in the prequels, however, is that the political climate was only fleshed out to the surface level of having just enough to understand what was going on for the Republic. The Separatists aren't really fleshed out well beyond leaving the Republic for vague reasons. Meanwhile, TCW fully fleshes out the political climate as well as the Separatists' motivations. TCW had some corny dialogue between Anakin and Padme, though none really stand out as being as out of place as the over the top dialogue in Attack of the Clones. As for Jar Jar, I don't hate him, but find his utilisation in the prequels to have problems. The main problem with him was that his clumsiness being his saving grace was played up far too convenient, to the point he was lucky enough to destroy 3 Battle Droids at once without meaning to. TCW Jar Jar still had the same clumsiness, but at that point he was far more proactive when it came to his decisions in the plot rather than having his role thrust upon him as in the prequels.
@michaelstark8720
@michaelstark8720 5 жыл бұрын
@@choueriito2548 Separatist are fleshed out on Geonosys when Obi Wan spied them They planned to overrun Jedi with Battledroids, defeat republic and made republic do any of their request. Rest you don' need. They never had peaceful separation in mind and wheater Palpatine was in office or not, republic would never allow because creation of new countries is always war.
@choueriito2548
@choueriito2548 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelstark8720 Showing the surface level goals of their faction is hardly fleshing out in terms of their policies for the people of the galaxy and why people would join their faction. What you described was the bare bones goal of 1-dimensional antagonists.
@michaelstark8720
@michaelstark8720 5 жыл бұрын
@@choueriito2548 Rebublic is corrupt, Sith made her corrupt and they are tricking separatist into allince against republic to make war. Separatist think that because of their battle army republic have no chance so they fell for sith trap. They would govern democraticly like they did before. They were all pawns of Sidious and Dooku as they didn't realize that Sith are setting them to lost war. Trade federation, Techno union, Commerce Guild Corporate Alliance, Banking Clan had grudge against Jedi. Especially TF because actions of Jedi make them suffer consequences after invasion of Naboo. If Queen signed treaty allowing TF troops on Naboo, they would kill her and rest of goverment so that cannot testify that they weer forced to sign treaty. Sidious didn't wanted that Queen escape because then she could do what she did in movie and TF suffered because of that and Sidious didn't wanted that because if his pawns(TF) lost influence,he lost influence. And if Queen didn't manage to escape, Palpatine would raise question and about his home planet and would look as hero in galactic senate. Trade Federation had lot of power and influence in galaxy and republic being so corrupt, commision that rep. of Malastare wanted would be payed to be quiet and TF would retreat as fast as they invaded. Also they could blame Jedi for their actions. Palpatine didn't expect that Valorum would send Jedi as negotiators so he ordered invasion and to kill Jedi. And if you wondering why Jedi didn't tell why invasion is real, Jedi are as cops and they attacked in TF ship started to cutting doors so TF would argue that Jedi attacked them so they launched Invasion in response. Also check deleted scenes of ep2 because they add more to story
@choueriito2548
@choueriito2548 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelstark8720 I am aware of all that. However, such is only expanded on thoroughly in expanded material whereas Attack of the Clones only covers the main conflict on the surface level of the Separatists being in opposition to the Republic, without expanding on the core issues they have and what practices make the Republic corrupt, of which TCW does a lot better of a job at expanding on.
@infinitlycool
@infinitlycool 5 жыл бұрын
I think one of the big reasons prequel haters use the "Whiny Kid" argument when it comes to Anakin is because it reminds them too much of themselves when they were at that age and they don't like to admit it. It's like I always say: _"It's easy for us, AS ADULTS, to criticize the stupid and immature things that young people do. However, at the same time, it's also easy for us, AS ADULTS, to forget that we were once young ourselves and at that age we're bound to make more mistakes than we would as adults."_ I find this especially true in teenage romances(and no, not _Twilight,_ those are just plain stupid) especially in anime and dating sim visual novels. It's easy for us to criticize some of the things that teenagers do when it comes to romance, yet we fail to remind ourselves that if that were us, we might have done the same. People who criticize teenage romance tend to forget that there are two elements when it comes to that age. ONE: Your hormones are kicking in, and TWO: You're dealing with emotions you don't fully understand just yet. Some are able to figure it out right away, but for most it takes years to do so. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise either had bad luck, didn't have a good experience, or screwed up so badly they don't want to talk about it while blaming everyone but themselves.
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 4 жыл бұрын
I feel this way too. I'm 26 (or will be next month) and I've never had a romantic relationship before but I have enough self-awareness to know that I would probably be just as cringeworthy as Anakin.
@freebandz4332
@freebandz4332 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomnorton4277 damn bruh you gotta put yourself out there! there’s ton of baddies that love SW
@YukiLeiu
@YukiLeiu 5 жыл бұрын
“Why does it divide the fans if it’s so good?” Because not everyone has to like something. Everyone agrees GoT is a cultural phenomenon but the fans are super divided. Also social media gave way for the haters to be more seen than before there was social media. The prequels were a success like said, until everyone online said it wasn’t.
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 4 жыл бұрын
EVERYTHING divides fans in any significant fandom. Period.
@SameerKhan-dy7hx
@SameerKhan-dy7hx Жыл бұрын
Season 8 of GOT is pretty one sided....nothing phenomenal there
@RepublicofE
@RepublicofE 4 жыл бұрын
"Noboby hated the prequels until the internet told them too" I actually did kind of always hate The Phantom Menace even before I knew about the whole prequel hatedom, but I still think the other two are alright to good. Part of it is that I was never too heavily invested in Star Wars to begin with beyond the very casual level so it can't really be "ruined" for me.
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 4 жыл бұрын
Thats fair enough, atleast you didn't hate tpm simply because your were fanatical about the OT and wanted it the same thing fed back to you
@charlinethom8449
@charlinethom8449 5 жыл бұрын
The guy dosn't get it dose he? Anakin in the PT is not Darth Vader yet nor is he meant to act like him right up until the climax of the thrid film the whole point of the prequals was to show how the once heroic Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker became the nortrious Sith Lord Darth Vader which is something that obviously dosen't happen over night.
@markborishnikoff5485
@markborishnikoff5485 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. It reminds me of how people say Daneryus Targaryn from Game of Thrones went crazy over night, even though most of the time her answer to problems is kill people through the whole series, and also incest.
@Willowy13
@Willowy13 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They wanted kind of a MaRey Sue that got superpowers over night. Personally, if the sequels had used the same approach to Rey going from a powerless person in TFA to somewhat powerful (not God moe) in TROS, disney fanfictions would be better.
@keelobrown4991
@keelobrown4991 4 жыл бұрын
@@markborishnikoff5485 dany did go crazy over night though. She went from wanting to free slaves and help people to then relentlessly killing inoccent babies in the blink of an eye for no reason at all. Also I fail to see how this is even relevant to anakin? Anakin was turned evil over time due to the events in his life. It seems you think dany was always evil since in your words "she's always solved problems by killing" which is not even remotely the same as anakins turn to evil. Also "incest" what do you mean? I dont get why you even said that or what point your even trying to make with it? wtf lol
@markborishnikoff5485
@markborishnikoff5485 4 жыл бұрын
@@keelobrown4991 first, if you're going to quote me, do it right. I said most of the time she kills not always such as when she killed the slave masters in various places such as Mareen and in season two with the dragons. Second, its relevant to Anakin because many have compared the two, as i said in my comment. Third, Daneryus was created by Incest, and incest often creates mental problems and other problems such as club foot.
@keelobrown4991
@keelobrown4991 4 жыл бұрын
@@markborishnikoff5485 my wording was different but still got the jist of your point across. your point is still that dany has killed wether I misquoted you or not that doesnt excuse the fact that your point is stupid, jon executed nights watch traitors, is he evil? Robb executed his bannermen for killing children is he evil? Dany executed people who enslaved and murdered children and all of a sudden shes evil but robb and jon arent? Just because people compare anakin to dany doesnt in any way mean they are similar characters. The people that do that clearly have no understanding of either one or both of these characters. Anamoly inc even has a video on this exact topic, explaining why comparing dany to anakin is stupid and makes no sense. Yes Dany was born of incest but throughout the show never shows any sign of being crazy. Quite the opposite and the writers themselves even said she is not insane. They have said this in so many ways in so many episode commentaries so that argument is completely invalid when talking about her stupid turn on a dime move in season 8 episode 5. Also no you didnt say in your comment how it was relevant to anakin so your second point doesnt make any sense i looked back at your original comment and nowhere do you explain the relevance to Anakin. Dont use imaginary comments as a point.
@spndusk2362
@spndusk2362 4 жыл бұрын
Anakin lost his mother, the only woman he knew in his life before Padmae, then he spent the next ten years training to be a celibate warrior. Lol it's like this guy doesn't understand that the character literally has no idea how to speak to women. He's speaking in raw emotion without thinking about how he's saying it. Cringy as some of the dialogue can be it's not as bad as what was written in TLJ 😂
@JayRedGear
@JayRedGear 2 жыл бұрын
Wish these Prequel haters understood that. But then again, it must be too much to ask them to pay attention to the movie instead of bitching about it, upchucking the same arguments against the trilogy.
@fusionstudios6989
@fusionstudios6989 5 жыл бұрын
Prequel Hater's: Disney Star Wars sucks. Me: You have done this to yourself.
@schnuffelhd2330
@schnuffelhd2330 3 жыл бұрын
66 likes... A suprise to be sure but a welcome one!
@swiftstrike4044
@swiftstrike4044 3 жыл бұрын
@Fusion Studios sounds about right
@megamike15
@megamike15 4 жыл бұрын
ot fan boys: vader is a bad ass in a suit of armor me; he is a tragic character in a life support suit.
@JayRedGear
@JayRedGear 2 жыл бұрын
They act like Vader having more of a personality and a tragic story ruins him when it does the opposite. And his character isn't just "badass in armor". Like you said, he is a tragic character whose armor is life support.
@RozwellMunchausen
@RozwellMunchausen 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, funny thing about the "losing the will to live" complaint. There are people who actually do lose the will to live when they lose loved ones (or when their life goes dramatically) and sometimes die..
@Sesshomaru1
@Sesshomaru1 4 жыл бұрын
The emotional stress is really what caused her to die. She died of a broken heart, this actually happens in real life, it's rare but it does happen.
@ngabel8956
@ngabel8956 4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars Only doesn't know how Anakin became Vader? Clearly he hasn't bothered to watch the prequels. Also, find me one person who has never heard of Vader telling Luke "No, I am your father." Spoiler alert, a franchise this iconic has already been spoiled.
@but1z
@but1z 5 жыл бұрын
Furthermore, the fact anakin in the PT and Vader share little in common is EXACTLY how it was supposed to be acted out. Vader in all accounts of EU identifies as a completely different person than anakin and his character development shows as such. So glad I stumbled across your videos you share almost every idea about Star Wars as I do.
@ertymexx
@ertymexx 4 жыл бұрын
"He's more machine now than man, twisted and evil." Obi-Wan should know, if anyone. :-/
@freebandz4332
@freebandz4332 2 жыл бұрын
There’s definitely some traits that Anakin and Vader share.
@SameerKhan-dy7hx
@SameerKhan-dy7hx Жыл бұрын
It's dumb , they've always been the same person , it's like if I put on a mask of brad pit and wear it for the rest of my life ..am I Brad Pitt? Jesus some of these star wars only channels are run 6 year olds who just learned the keyboard
@gtafans93
@gtafans93 5 жыл бұрын
This is were the deleted scene of anakin meeting padmes family should of beenkept into the film. Then the fire scene would of made more sense.
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
See i Disagree With Padme Having a Family it Opens Up A Shit Ton of Plotholes For Example Why Doesnt Luke Go Back To Naboo With her Family Same With Leia Also Id Find It Kind Of Odd & How She Had A Family While She Was Queen Fighting Battles With The Trade Federation
@jam1531
@jam1531 5 жыл бұрын
@@anomalyinc3239 If Yoda & Obi-wan just sent Luke & Leia back to Naboo. The emperor could catch them easily,no doubt. Naboo is the emperor's hometown. And the Padme's family(Naberrie family)appears in Padme's funeral. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Funeral_of_Padm%C3%A9_Amidala/Legends 0 : 17 Naberrie family kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m95mq5CVyZ-2on0.html EP2 Naberrie family deleted scene(you can see same actors) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gZaopLp1lt7eZY0.html
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 4 жыл бұрын
There were a lot of really important scenes in Attack of the Clones that were just cut out. While I love the movie, the editing really butchered it. I think if someone more competent than Ben Burtt had done the editing, we'd have a much more beloved film
@HectorJimenez-ee9zi
@HectorJimenez-ee9zi 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video -a guy who adores the prequels
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
Your Very welcome
@Alex-wk2xf
@Alex-wk2xf 4 жыл бұрын
“I wish anakin would be more badass in the prequels” yeah it’s almost like people change after 25 fucking years and losing everyone they cared about
@connorharnage6697
@connorharnage6697 4 жыл бұрын
In retrospect, I realized that most of Anomaly's counters are the same in each episode. That's not his fault though, it's just that prequel haters all have the same arguments. Politics boring, Jar Jar bad, Space Monk dialogue bland. It just makes me respect him all the more for constantly countering the same arguments over and over with stride
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 4 жыл бұрын
bravo mate bravo spot on
@connorharnage6697
@connorharnage6697 4 жыл бұрын
@@anomalyinc3239 Thanks. I'm the only one in my family that likes the prequels so it feels good to know I'm not the only one, especially now that we've seen how bad Star Wars can get
@JayRedGear
@JayRedGear 2 жыл бұрын
Prequel haters are nothing but a hive mind. Every argument against the Prequels is all the same. Anakin is whiny and not like Vader (even though this was well before he became Vader), the acting of kid and teen Anakin is bad, "I don't like said" is bad, etc.
@lumeronswift
@lumeronswift 9 ай бұрын
Agreed... I find it interesting that the prequels get any hate, especially when stacked against the sheer number of popular Marvel or DC or [insert_genre_or_franchise] films that don't receive any visible hate. Terminator... Matrix... I mean, even something as fun as the first Pirates of the Carribbean has plenty of issues, but there is no vocal community of haters.
@KoolKeithProductions
@KoolKeithProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoy the fireplace scene, and here's why. It does start off romantic and heartfelt, and then you're right, there is a shift. However, I think it's there by DESIGN. It's to show that although Ani does truly love Padme, his love can be at times bordering on OBSESSION. In that moment, you totally believe that this guy would burn the entire fucking Galaxy to ashes for her, and you know what? He kinda did 😳
@VibingMeike
@VibingMeike 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually an interesting point of view. I first loved it too when I was a bit younger and totally loved a bit older style of romance. When I grew older I was like: wtf is this scene. And now I actually like it again xD
@KoolKeithProductions
@KoolKeithProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@VibingMeike Yeah, we gotta remember that Ani had never been in love before. He doesn't know how to react to what he's feeling, so you can't compare how he acts to how a normal person would. There was nothing "normal" about his childhood.
@VibingMeike
@VibingMeike 3 жыл бұрын
@@KoolKeithProductions Exactly, ppl easily forget about the fact that Anakin was never taught to flirt or anything too
@woefulweeb4943
@woefulweeb4943 2 жыл бұрын
While we can understand that it’s just not something most of the audience can enjoy. That’s not the main point, but to feel the tragedy of this character we have to support him and when the obsession is portrayed such a manner it can be hard to sympathize with them. I can understand all Anakin’s actions throughout the trilogy, but I feel dialogue had to be adjusted to come off with the same message, but in a more palatable way
@lumeronswift
@lumeronswift 5 жыл бұрын
Huh... Vader was a badass? He was imposing, sure, but he did little more on-screen than walk around heavily and choke a couple of people. Don't really have anything against Vader, but to say that the prequels ruined him is odd.
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 3 жыл бұрын
Vader wasn't even the badass of the OT. Palpatine and Tarkin were. Tarkin didn't even have Force powers but he still treated Vader like his personal guard dog (whilst wearing slippers I might add because Peter Cushing couldn't stand wearing the boots). Vader got his time to shine in TESB but even in that movie, he was shown kneeling before Palpatine and in ROTJ, he went back to being his bitch until the very last moment. Darth Vader was ALWAYS a pathetic little bitch even in the OT. He simply hid it behind his lightsaber, Force powers and imposing suit.
@spearfisherman308
@spearfisherman308 3 жыл бұрын
He was just a generic bad guy but i still liked him this argument by starwars only is just a plinkett ripp off.
@lumeronswift
@lumeronswift 9 ай бұрын
agreed
@hexogramd8430
@hexogramd8430 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was just me, but I found the love story truly realistic for what it was trying to portray. Anakin was taught to suppress his emotions, and feelings of love. Then he falls in love, even though he’s basically has no way of dealing with these emotions. It’s foreign to him. That’s why he acts like he’s completely awkward, because Jedi conditioning has made it hard for him to express certain emotions like love. I personally found Jar Jar funny, I liked his goofiness he was a fun edition. “If the prequels are so good why do they divide the fandom.” Maybe because OT fans are blinded my nostalgia on how they wanted it to be.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 2 жыл бұрын
"Lost the will to live makes no sense" Real life people have died of sadness before.
@NewOrderOfAlexandria
@NewOrderOfAlexandria 4 жыл бұрын
I hate that audience who wooo! When Hamil says we need to respect the fans and Rian was like no.
@NewOrderOfAlexandria
@NewOrderOfAlexandria 4 жыл бұрын
@@anomalyinc3239 TLJ might've been good if it wasn't for the scooby doo level slap stick comedy and terrible Holdo and Rose Tico. At least TROS and FA took themselves seriously.
@EricGraham94
@EricGraham94 4 жыл бұрын
I have a counterargument for Padme's death. Firstly, Padme represents the bastion of democracy within the Republic; but now that democracy is dead, she dies with it. Secondly, in a single day, Padme experienced the following... 1) Witnessing the democracy she spent YEARS defending turn into an Empire 2) Found out the horrible truth that Anakin has now become a power-hungry monster 3) Anakin telekinetically chokes Padme through the Force 4) The stress of giving childbirth All that stress has the capacity to weaken and kill someone (especially someone who's forcing herself to keep living just for the sake of her twin children; women HAVE died from childbirth even from natural causes. But for a woman like Padme who refuses to give up, she was slipping towards death while giving birth to Luke and Leia after ALL OF THAT).
@JayRedGear
@JayRedGear 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!! It really boggles my mind how so little these Prequel haters don't understand that.
@Dobolob576445678
@Dobolob576445678 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't this guy remember the end of the Original Trilogy? Where Vader has his mask removed and we realize he's not some sort of awe inspiring bad ass, he's a weak, dying old man that's trapped in a permanent life support machine, weak, dying and human in his final moments? Vader isn't *just* a bad ass, he's humanized subtly throughout the OT and then we get that moment of dying old man that makes him so deep. Anakin meanwhile is talking about taking out an entire tribe single handed and he's treating that like it's not: a) Bad ass as all hell as a feat b) Completely messed up and something you'd be emotionally torn on.
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 2 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader was always a weak man, even in the Original Trilogy. He hid it behind an intimidating suit and a red lightsaber but he was always a pathetic bitch. The Prequels didn't change that, they simply made it clear to anybody who didn't see it in the Original Trilogy. Not only did Palpatine treat Vader like his pet dog who needed to be put down because he was no longer useful but Tarkin, who couldn't even use the Force, made it very clear that he was in charge even as Vader Force Choked another man right in front of him. Fun fact, Peter Cushing filmed his scenes in slippers which makes him even more awesome in my mind. Anyway, getting back to Vader, people were disappointed because they looked up to him (which is pretty fucked up when you think about it) and he wasn't what they expected. It's a "never meet your heroes" situation except it's being applied to a bad guy.
@canibezeroun1988
@canibezeroun1988 4 жыл бұрын
Sheesh... Anakin is recognizing that he is becoming a monster and that he enjoyed it is an extremely traumatic experience. He's incapable of reconciling that within himself and he opens up to Padme and tells her his new mission: to stop people from dying. That's called whiny... I think Lucas made this prequel too mature and couldn't use cinematography to communicate anguish in a declining mind.
@fancypants1523
@fancypants1523 3 жыл бұрын
The fireplace scene shows how emotionally unstable and vulnerable anakin is made by padme. He is a jedi and should be in more controll of his emotions. This scene shows us the strings palpatine will later pull to make anakin his puppet. Anakin is showing the audience his biggest weakness.
@ertymexx
@ertymexx 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, two things: 1) "Star Wars is not about dividing us, its about bringing us all together." Says who? 2) "Vader was badass, Anakin was a whiny teenager." Exactly. But that is the very point of his story. He was a overpowered kid not allowed to do what he wanted, and not having been tempered from early childhood in the jedi ways, let his emotions get the better of him, resulting in him falling to the dark side and becoming Darth Vader. That is the very point of the whole story!
@torgomaghanyan7633
@torgomaghanyan7633 5 жыл бұрын
This type of guys are the one of reason that Rey exists, because they want badass overpowered hero from the beginning. I'ts impossible (in real star wars), because people are different considering they age, especially the character like Vader, which had drastic changes in every aspect of their life. Also in which way ROTS Anakin/Vader wasn't badass? Dude was one of the most if not most powerful jedi in the galaxy in his 23 year (which is unbelievable, considering how long took other jedi masters to achieve that level of power), dude solo killed the most talented duelist of his time Count Duku, also solo killed half of the jedi maters and padavans in the temple! He killed even Mace Windu who was in par with Palpy, and only lost Obi-Wan, because plot needed him to loose. The only thing I agree with the idiot OT fan is romantic line between Padme and Anakin, it's just unbelievable in every possible way (I don't talk about sand, cus I actually understand why he said this, because poor guy just happens to have horrible childhood memories considering fucking sad planet filled with worst scum of the galaxy). But I can say one positive thing, if you took out famous youtubers from the post soviet union territry, thoes guys like many other western youtubers love to trash on Prequels to gain attention, majority of people grown up to love SW with prequels and they do not have any problems with them. Until I learned English and connected to western fanbase I was unaware of this prequel hate.
@UncleJoeNeonCherry
@UncleJoeNeonCherry 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Red Cynic is a Russian KZfaqr who likes the prequels. So am I.
@mrfred1000
@mrfred1000 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't really a plot issue why he lost, it's master and student and as you see, arrogance, why he lost. Also if you look into canon Darth Vader believed Obi Wan could still beat him even when he battled him in front of Luke later on and he was afraid. You don't see this in the movies because they chose not to do that, but if you read the canon he actually feared obi Wan and believed he would lose. One of the main things with Anakin has been a bit of arrogance, and Obi Wan knew his fighting style being his master. They pretty much was drawing up until Anakin wanted to flip over Obi Wan so technically, obi Wan COULD have lost if he wasn't arrogant due to his anger and dwelling in the darkside rage. So it's not plot why he lost, it makes sense. And Anakin didn't beat Mace Windu, he blind sided him chopping off his hand and then Mace got blasted with force lightning by Palpatine. Also, Dooku wasn't super powerful in the dark side but was a good duelist. His fencing style was good 1 vs 1 against other Jedi but it lacked power according to light saber form canon. Anakin's form was about speed and Power and he was stronger now than he was when they fought before. It's a great feat but Chosen One now a Master being conflicted darkside Jedi vs Dooku compared to Still a Padawan Young naïve Anakin vs Dooku isn't really a fair comparison.
@omnibomni7661
@omnibomni7661 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrfred1000 Anakin would have won regardless of fencing forms. George and Nick had a tiering system in terms of overall combat ability, Obi, Dooku, and Mace were all at level 8, Yoda, Palp, and Anakin were all at level 9
@omnibomni7661
@omnibomni7661 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrfred1000 Also, Anakin was hindered doing his fight with Obi-Wan. The novelatization states that he hadn't eaten or slept since he had that vision about Padme. That would have lasted for at least half a week
@omnibomni7661
@omnibomni7661 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrfred1000 Dooku has also oneshot jedi masters with his force abilities, so he was pretty strong
@TheAutistWhisperer
@TheAutistWhisperer 4 жыл бұрын
How can anyone not understand the reason why Anakin is talking and acting awkwardly? He's a Jedi who's been taught since he was a child to suppress his feelings whilst he's also in love with Padme, which is forbidden by the Jedi Order. Padme is also reluctant cause of the Jedi Order and her responsibility as a representative of Naboo. Have any of these people who make this argument ever been in love for the first time? and how awkward it is? Bloody bots. You know, I'm sick to death of the "racist" accusations towards Jar Jar, just because someone calls it racist doesn't mean it is and last time I checked the actor who played Jar Jar was the one who gave the character a Jamaican accent and you know what? I like it, it sets Jar Jar apart from the rest of the Gungans and reinforces his separation from his people cause they treat him as an outcast. Futhermore, George Lucas has been quoted in saying "Jar Jar is the key to all of this" he said that about a character being played a black man, so he clearly held that character in high regard.
@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151
@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they use the criticism of filmmaking as opposed to the in universe reasons why it’s like that.
@darkjediknight2923
@darkjediknight2923 5 жыл бұрын
Great points. All the characters and plot make sense in the prequels. That Han scene was hilarious by the way. I thought Padme and Anakin also had some good moments. I think Jar Jar was used as a tool for humour. He certainly makes more sense than random Rey and random Snoke. Perhaps the theory of Darth Jar Jar Plageuis is true. I didn't really have that much of a problem with him, he's certainly not useless. I do have a problem with zero story in the so called sequels and none of the characters being consistent or having any backstory. Watching those prequel behind the scenes clips was moving. See how great those films were. It really hurts now watching the sequels. Windu versus Palpatine was an epic fight in my view with so much depth and meaning. The three Jedi before I guess could have been slightly better choreographed - e.g. I would have had one hidden lightsaber hidden in Palpatine's statue materialise and kill two of the Jedi, and this lightsaber (knocked out Palpatine's hand by Windu) later used in the fight against Yoda. But I loved the scene irregardless. I also do think the Jedi coup would have succeeded better with better communication amongst the Jedi themselves. It did make me wonder. As you said though, it still makes sense and holds up on its own.
@cbzskeleton
@cbzskeleton 3 жыл бұрын
weird how he said Anakin wasn't badass even though in ROTS he destroyed the jedi and the separatists in a really badass, Vader like way, makes no sense
@chadwoods2364
@chadwoods2364 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly the prequels weren't perfect but most these haters' claims are crossing the line. PS most of the haters don't understand the reasoning behind the Prequels.
@HectorJimenez-ee9zi
@HectorJimenez-ee9zi 5 жыл бұрын
Superficial arguments from superficial people.
@TheJuicyJediJester
@TheJuicyJediJester 5 жыл бұрын
The prequels suck ass. Just accept it.
@michaelstark8720
@michaelstark8720 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheJuicyJediJester prequels have such huge scope of universe and no other franchise came close. Actions taken on Coruscant were felt across galaxy and Anakin journey into darkness step by step was awesome He was kid who looked on Jedi as heroes, wanted to become jedi to save him mother and others from slavery. after time he becomed arrogant because he was better than other students, tortured by dreams about his mother, want to see what is happening with her and Obi Wan tell him dreams pass in times, When he got his first assignment still is tortured by dreams but he put duty first until he cant take anymore and went to see what is wrong with his mother, try to save her, she died and he killed her captors, swear that he won't fail again on grave of his mother, arrogant again and was fried by lighting and lost an arm from duel with Dooku, prideful my power are doubled since we met, use anger and kill Dooku, still save Obi wan, he learn that will become father which is problem for Jedi, tortured by dreams of his wife death, ask jedi about visions and they tell him to be happy that others die miss them do not mourn them do not. Palpatine masterfully control Anakin and make that Jedi humiliate him by not giving him rank of master, Anakin and Jedi council are moving far from each other. Jedi Council ask that he spy Palpatine before they even knew he was Sith which make Jedi bad and power hungry that want to control and are no different then Siths. Palpatine reveal himself to Anakin and promise him that he can help him save his wife Padme. Anakin in shock that his fatherfigure is sith went to seek Jedi but realize that they are no different and when came into Palpatine office, Windu wants to kill Palpatine and only Anakin say that's not Jedi way and Windu answer same as palpatine did after Dooku died which confirmed for Anakin that Jedi are no different from Siths so he cut windu hand and Palpatine fried windu. After being part of killing leaading member of jedi council, life he knew was over and only side he have is with Palpatine. To become more powerful to learn dark side to use it like Plageous, he must do dark deeds so he Purged Jedi from temple. After that he went to destroy separatists and he brought peace to the galaxy. After that he had time to reflect on his actions but he has gone too far and choice he made is permanent. Padme hears what happened and want check for herself so she went on mustafar and Obi Wan secretly boarded and after Anakin saw her, she wanted to leave but he wanted to stay because they don't have to run anymore and he still didn't learn what he need to save her, After that Obi Wan appear, he thought that Padme brought Obi Wan to kill him so he force choke her feeling betrayed and only because of arrogance he lost against Obi Wan. I think that was awesome and unique story of fall of Anakn Skywalker. And that was majority of ep2 and 3 movies because TPM was mostly Qui Gon and Obi Wan movie so which trilogy have superior story?
@TheJuicyJediJester
@TheJuicyJediJester 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelstark8720 Why did you give me the history of the prequels? I already know all that but all of that is just unnecessary filler we we knew from the original trilogy.
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
@Michael Stark Laying Down The Prequel Lore Ma Man
@juresaiyan
@juresaiyan 4 жыл бұрын
The lack of understanding prequel bashers have is utterly astonishing. They must really hate themselves. Also, that comment at 29:45 is some of the most childish and butthurt comments I have ever heard. Seriously, what is he even trying to say? That Star Wars fans must have no free will? Star Wars unites fans by default? Everytime I hear such comments, my love for the prequels strenghtens.
@didimean
@didimean 4 жыл бұрын
this Revenge of the Prequels saga is cathartic af. Very well done sir. By the way - Padme's death is much more interesting when you factor in Palpatine basically uses her life energy to keep Anakin/Vader alive. Look into that and you will probably enjoy that part WAY more.
@triplea657aaa
@triplea657aaa 4 жыл бұрын
Also Jarjar was intended to be the true secret with cloaking himself in a sort of drunken master style. If you watch carefully he uses a force mind trick CONSTANTLY to change many scenes. He was the reason they picked up Anakin, he wiped out half of the Droid army, he convinced the WHOLE SENATE with a massive force mind trick.
@xXxCuBe95xXx
@xXxCuBe95xXx 5 жыл бұрын
Never really got behind that argument of killing the ,, i m your father" scene by giving the viewers that information beforehand via the prequels. Imo that makes people even more pumped to see that revelation unfold later on within the movie. Kind of an actual example would be the way the R+L = J theory was handled in GoT. Learning about it being true as the viewer first actually made me even more pumped to see it getting revealed to Jon and the other important characters (even though they kind of fcked it up there ...). The same goes for star wars and its prequels. I always think about that revelation scene in episode 5 as coming across a bit too random and out of the blue without having the input from the prequels first as a viewer. So i think not only in that regard the prequels did a good job of giving explanations and set up to a lot of stuff in the original trilogy. sry for bringing up got right now :) i also wasnt happy about the end but for the point i wanted to make the comparison seemed to be fitting.
@keelobrown4991
@keelobrown4991 4 жыл бұрын
It really is one of the dumbest anti prequel arguments ive ever seen. It truly baffles me anyone ever took these guys words seriously.
@captainrex9406
@captainrex9406 4 жыл бұрын
The argument also doesn't work because it's a prequel so of course it's going to reveal stuff like that.
@peteypiranalover
@peteypiranalover 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Ian Mcdirmand chancellor battle. It makes perfect sense as is. Due to lack of Jedi as around it makes sense that he couldn't arrange more Jedi and Mace is rash with Jedi. Personally the Sidious battles are my favorite fights in the franchsie
@hunnymonster7190
@hunnymonster7190 5 жыл бұрын
Great points enjoyed for the most part, but the audio is all over the place, had it attached to my bluetooth speaker to listen at work, one minute I'm struggling to hear next I'm jumping out of my skin when it gets ridiculously loud. Sorry to moan but it's not my speaker it's fine on other KZfaq videos.
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
Im Working On It Your Not The Only One To Mention It So Thank You
@antborb7215
@antborb7215 4 жыл бұрын
22:56 scared me
@maximilianosanchez1106
@maximilianosanchez1106 5 жыл бұрын
I like Jar Jar in The Clone Wars CGI series, I don't understand why people hate him.
@arnavbhattacharjee2035
@arnavbhattacharjee2035 4 жыл бұрын
He was so good in that show. With what he did in TCW in mind, anything in TPM where I was annoyed by Jar Jar just...vanished.
@SgtMajorSkull
@SgtMajorSkull 4 жыл бұрын
@@arnavbhattacharjee2035 I noticed though that people didn't hate Jar Jar until the hollywood critics and then shills like RLM and SWO told people to hate him...
@D.Pensak
@D.Pensak 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I especially liked your comment ‘the internet told them to hate the prequels.’ I also think that these prequel haters were of a younger age, thus gaging their expectations based on contemporary cinema trends vs. those who saw the OT in ‘77-‘83. Great work and keep it up. Thank you.
@metadude1234
@metadude1234 5 жыл бұрын
When it comes to Jar Jar, is it bad to admit that when Figuarts announced their Jar Jar figure, I was infinitely more hyped for that than even the X-Wing Pilot Luke?
@GalaxyDogenut
@GalaxyDogenut 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@LordWyatt
@LordWyatt 3 жыл бұрын
‘If the prequels were that good, why are they so divisive?’ Oh I wished I could’ve watched this guy eat his words after TLJ😂
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 5 жыл бұрын
Hayden did not portrayed Anakin George did Edited: I mean George told how Hayden should act as Anakin
@darthbaluuduh6598
@darthbaluuduh6598 5 жыл бұрын
Bit late but here are my two cents as to why the PT divided the fanbase. This is gonna be somewhat long so bear with me. First of all, why do prequels at all? With the OT being a finished story with a beginning, a middle, and an ending, Lucas was left with basically 4 choices: 1. Make a direct (time-wise) sequel since people liked the characters. 2. Make a distant (again time-wise) sequel featuring new characters, new places, antagonists and so forth. 3. Make a direct prequel using the old and liked characters. 4. Make a distant prequel set way back in time again with entirely new characters etc. (like KotOR). Now, all of these have distinct problems but let's say we want the old beloved characters to come back, so we'll ditch options 2 and 4.So we're left with direct sequel or prequel. Now here are some of the problems with those options. For the sequel you have to come up with a new threat that makes sense and does not diminish the plot and characterization of the OT and can't be the same(looking at you TFA) which means you'll lose some of your iconography. Another problem is your characters having already completed their hero's journey, meaning you'll have to either use them as mentors to new protagonists or you'll (potentially) lose out on most of the character development. For a possible prequel you have to find a way to come up with a story that cannot have a happy ending since it needs to tie in to the setup of the OT. This means your story has to be different from the typical heroe's journey. The second problem is the same as with a sequel; your characters cannot undergo their development arc since that would make their development in the OT pointless. A third point I want to mention is tension. A prequel will always struggle to use tension in the over arching sense since you already know how it will end. However, this gives you the opportunity to flesh out characters that weren't the focus of the OT like Obi-Wan or characters that have only vague or non-existant backgrounds like Vader and the Emperor. This opportunity presents itself since you have a) the already mentioned connection between Luke, Leia, Vader and Obi-Wan and b) an Empire and the Emperor himself to set up which, along with the mention of a more civilized time by Obi, makes the Rise of the Empire/Vader storyline easily the least problematic since it's also one that inevitably leads to the grim set-up of the beginning of the OT. The cherry on top of this is having the opportunity to establish a background lore which makes all future projects (e.g possible sequels) easier to conceive and base in the established lore. This is just a fraction but you can already see why the prequel(s) looked enticing. So why did this split the fanbase? It was inevitable! Because fans are inherently and inevitably drawn to different things. This is of course because as human beings we have differing tastes. Some people, e.g. those who liked the character interactions and dialogue of the OT, may have welcomed a stronger focus on those traits. Other people may have liked the world building and establishing of a background to the Empire/Rebellion (which includes the politics of how the republic runs and how it failed) Another subset may have preferred an adventure more focused on action. In conclusion, this is a problem with basically all additions to an existing franchise as people have widely varying opinions of what said franchise represents to them. So if star wars (OT) for you was mostly about an epic space opera with gigantic fleet battles in addition to mano y mando lightsaber fights, then yes, you were probably disappointed with the PT (except for maybe RotS, which most people who hate the PT seem to still like). So why didn't the OT split the fanbase? The OT was the first foray into this universe (get it?) so there was no expectations of what star wars was to the fans. It was Lucas' story to tell from start to finish and he did. Of course there were things people almost universally disliked (*cough* Ewoks *cough*) but the simple truth is that there was nothing to divide. A fan base with concrete views and opinions of what star wars was to them could only form after it was finished. It's the same with music. A band with only one album (OT) cannot have a split fan base. You either liked the record and are a fan or you didn't and thus are not. Splitting fanbases can only happen once a second album (in this analogy PT) is out. At this point you will split the fanbase no matter what you do since it's either more of the same and some people wanted change or vice versa. If you've read all this, I hope you have a good day!
@cursedkitchen8752
@cursedkitchen8752 4 жыл бұрын
Just saw this over a year later. Wow! That was a good read!
@freebandz4332
@freebandz4332 2 жыл бұрын
Fucking based!
@thepiedbagpiper9320
@thepiedbagpiper9320 4 жыл бұрын
I know you said you've re-evaluated the fireplace scene since this video. But just in case: Anakin pouring his heart out while Padme stays quiet showcases the different stances they have regarding they're romance. i.e. Anakin is conflicted, ultimately accepts the romance, but doesn't know how to handle it while Padme is conflicted, ultimately rejects the romance and doesn't know how to handle it. Basically, Anakin is leaning into it while Padme is flinching away from it, and Anakin's monologue plus Padme's silence reflects this.
@10011110011
@10011110011 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the cringe there. Why would anakin know how to talk to a woman?
@darksidegryphon5393
@darksidegryphon5393 4 жыл бұрын
I am angry at what they did to Jake Lloyd.
@arermi4632
@arermi4632 3 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that Padmes' death in revenge of the sith is a good death. She just figured out that Anakin destroyed the jedi order, destroyed the young lings, destroyed the jedi, destroyed everything. Padme barely has Hope and when she approaches Anakin, she sees what hes become, and in the end Anakin himself knocks Padme out. So of course she lost the will to live. Why would anyone (especially Padme) want to live after seeing there husband do that. If anything they could've said that the pregnancy was also a contributing factor too why she is dying (Maybe we're supposed to imply that? But idk i'm about to rewatch the prequels so i'll see). That way its like she lost physically and emotionally. Which would've been a fulfilling death.
@animelytical8354
@animelytical8354 4 жыл бұрын
The way Anakin acts with Padme actually made a lot of sense for me entirely. Anakin is Vader by the end of this trilogy, so it made sense for me even as an over the top nature of it. I'm not even a lover of this trilogy. The awkwardness makes sense to me there, though. And I actually loved the frantic look of Palpatine. Found it funnier, but thought that was a part of him trying to look out of his depth.
@kiadorphantomwolf6572
@kiadorphantomwolf6572 4 жыл бұрын
i grew up with the original trilogy on VHS that my brother loaned me and i loved them, they are a massive part of my childhood and when the prequels came out i got to go with him to see episode 1 and we both enjoyed it, i never got to see the other 2 in the cinema but i bought them on release on dvd and at first i thought they were ok but as i got older and rewatched them i started to get a whole new appreciation for them and still love them to this day.
@SWTobito0702
@SWTobito0702 4 жыл бұрын
I am currently binging through this series of videos and as someone who grew with both the PT and the OT and in addition to that spent part of his winter break rewatching the prequels several times over (in fact, I'm about to watch ROTS again), I must thank you for making these videos. The Star Wars prequels do not deserve the majority of the hate directed towards them and you taking so much time to defend what made me who I am today means a whole lot to me. You can be assured that I will be a subscriber of yours from now on.
@but1z
@but1z 5 жыл бұрын
A video on why the clone wars animals series was a masterpiece would do well, feel like it never gets enough credit
@PaisiosOfGOAOA
@PaisiosOfGOAOA 5 жыл бұрын
so good to see this series back brother hopefully we'll get the plinkett soon enough anyway you have an amazing day man. I love those documentary events they're so great
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dude Gonna Take A While Before Plinkett
@thechugg4372
@thechugg4372 4 жыл бұрын
"Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader are two different people" like no shit Obi Wan said Anakin was dead, and yes they are also different because it's what character development is all about, what those 3 movies are building up to.
@animelytical8354
@animelytical8354 4 жыл бұрын
"George Lucas raped our childhood". I just remembered the South Park thing 🤣🤣🤣
@ChrisSagem
@ChrisSagem 5 жыл бұрын
22:27 - Sounds like Mark Wahlberg from The Happening!
@theogking8309
@theogking8309 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, so showing emotions makes men become women. Man he has a really good point.😑
@cobaltstudios935
@cobaltstudios935 4 жыл бұрын
24:13 It's worth mentioning scientists recently discovered it is in fact possible to die from losing the will to live. It's incredibly rare, but it's possible. And I would say anything possible in reality is possible in a world as already reality-bending as Star Wars. So SWO's argument here is moot.
@rhizvo108
@rhizvo108 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your intros! Nobody says it better then Mark.
@RiiViiMedia2424
@RiiViiMedia2424 2 жыл бұрын
20:15 Oh my gosh, it is a case called "characters changing over time from major events!" A rarity among storytelling. :)
@alexl6644
@alexl6644 4 жыл бұрын
You should get in contact with Mauler. You would make a good EFAP MEMBER
@BrandonS101
@BrandonS101 Жыл бұрын
You can die of heartbreak. One of my ancestors died shortly after her daughter died.
@ArcTrooperRod-269
@ArcTrooperRod-269 10 ай бұрын
I NEVER GET TIRED OF THIS AMAZING SAGA YOU DID BUDDY, THIS SAGA OF VIDEOS ARE FULL OF FACTS PD. Nothing related to the video, but today Star Wars Only's reputation is at the floor XD
@woefulweeb4943
@woefulweeb4943 2 жыл бұрын
I hate when people use the term badass as if it’s a character trait
@mongolballempire8664
@mongolballempire8664 5 жыл бұрын
Godjob man keep it up
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pal
@galgalimeyes91
@galgalimeyes91 5 жыл бұрын
annakin just akward in romance . just his character .
@dondraper3898
@dondraper3898 5 жыл бұрын
Keep rockin' it, brother! I can't say I am big on the prequels but I respect them. As I keep sayin', behind every failed execution people wan't to fixate on is an earnest attempt to deliver from the creator. F*ckin' MCU movies under Disney can't say the same since VFX teams from the Philippines provided most of the vision.
@Jite77
@Jite77 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos, it’s refreshing to see other people understand these movies. That being said, I actually like Anakin’s monologue, I think it works well with the tone of the scene, mixed with the scenery and the music. I find it very artistic and it heightens the feeling of tragedy.
@cherlojomzyaduermanse
@cherlojomzyaduermanse 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like george lucas sold star wars like saying "oh, so you want to see how a bad movie looks?"
@shannonreynolds624
@shannonreynolds624 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say this without it being a me too moment. HOWEVER, as a once "little girl" I felt a bit insulted as, ignoring the blatant gender bias that is as I have seen little boys cry as well, but I was a Tom Boy and could beat up every boy in my neighborhood. Anomaly, how old is this person because I grew up in the 70s and 80s and saw the first movie in theaters and was left with a very good memory of my cousin who is not dead. This person has to be a millennial, one of the insane ones. A person can wither away due to a broken heart and Padme loved Anakin, she married him, both of them broke the Jedi code to be together and to lose him to evil and you're right, he succumbed to the dark side trying to prevent Padme's death only to be the cause of it.
@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy
@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy 5 жыл бұрын
Oliver Twist's mother also died of a broken heart, yet Dickens never gets any flack for that. : P Hell, you could also make a real-world argument that Debbie Reynolds also did so shortly after Carrie Fisher's death. (How's that for irony? Both Fisher's actual mother _and_ her Star Wars character's mother died of the same causes? : 0)
@RosesandLace
@RosesandLace 2 жыл бұрын
"If you are right, why am I wrong?"
@smbrTube
@smbrTube 5 жыл бұрын
1:19 “The main thing is to destroy this franchise.”
@ridizzle189
@ridizzle189 4 жыл бұрын
Back when the prequel hate was high i used to think i was stupid because I always thought the actors did a good job and I always liked anakin and thought he was cool especially in the 3rd one.
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 3 жыл бұрын
The acting was much better in the Prequels than it was in Disney's train wreck of a Trilogy. Hayden Christiansen can say more with his eyes than Daisy Ridley can say with her entire face.
@BRockIITWi
@BRockIITWi 5 жыл бұрын
I personally would have made different decisions with Anakin, but, it doesn't ruin Vader the way it was done and it still works. I like the prequels. PM took some time to grow on me, but, by the time all 3 were finished, I started to enjoy it.
@InTheMindOfDavid
@InTheMindOfDavid 3 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ on the fireplace scene. I think it totally fits with Anakin’s character. He’s being torn in opposite direction with the Jedi Order and Doctrine on one side his pure and honest passion for Padmae. He doesn’t know how to control his emotions at all. In fact much of his power comes from those emotions. He loves her so much but his told by the Order, Obi-Wan his brother, and her that he shouldn’t love her. That he can’t love her. He’s so emotionally frustrated and was never able to learn the coping skill necessary to rein those feeling in. Thus he just lets that anger pour out. It totally fits. You should watch Lorerunners Rumination on the Star Wars saga it’s amazing! Highly highly recommend it.
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 3 жыл бұрын
I just might thanks
@JohnWilliams-wl9px
@JohnWilliams-wl9px 4 жыл бұрын
For the Duel between Palpatine and Windu I wondered why they didn’t do a repeat what they did with Dooku in 2. Cause in 2 for Dooku fight scenes they mainly used a stunt double with Lee face CGI over it, with some of the fighting was done by Lee. Use the double for fighting all the Jedi at once. Then when it’s only Palpatine and Windu just have it be Ian.
@robertparker6280
@robertparker6280 3 жыл бұрын
To me for Ian McDermott's scene, instead if he unping and killing the 3 Jedi. He stands up, force pushed all 4 of them, then force chokes one of them, lighting the other, and after the lightinged Jedi is dead, saber throw to kill the other Jedi, and then fight Mace Windo. That way we see his power. But that's just me.
@TheDeadsideofYouTube
@TheDeadsideofYouTube Жыл бұрын
JaJa wasn't useless to Palpatine...he had a direct impact on him gaining power over the senate lol. Props to Ian McDiarmid though for trying to step out of his comfort zone to duel with a lightsabre, he's not great, but he still put some effort in.
@csehszlovakze
@csehszlovakze 4 жыл бұрын
It'd be awesome to see you break down Star Wars.
@curlyfries2956
@curlyfries2956 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing. Dying from losing the will to live is a thing that happens in real life
@betterlatethannever4529
@betterlatethannever4529 3 жыл бұрын
"And she lost the will to live".... You talking about Padme or Carrie Fisher's mother? Because that basically happened.
@II-wu7mx
@II-wu7mx Жыл бұрын
The fire place scene worked for me but I’m also a cinema layman. The last time we saw anakin pressing the romantic boundaries with Padme he could tell it was working based off the way he smiles knowingly as she’s leaving. Here he takes the same tact but decides, here, alone with padme in this romantic setting, he’s going to lay his cards out on the table even more forwardly in hopes of fully breaking through her facade. It works to a degree as she follows his logic for a time but eventually cooler heads prevail because there’s so much at stake for both of them.
@topbunktv8122
@topbunktv8122 4 жыл бұрын
How could he have a channel that revolves around Star Wars when he doesn't know anything about the story and hates 1/3 of the movies this much?
@theskepticpirate156
@theskepticpirate156 4 жыл бұрын
24:35 in defense of Padme dying because she lost the will to live. Dying from a heartbreak isn't made up. It can actually happen. The only thing that can't be defended about it is that it takes a while so... they just let her die rather than step in with basic medical care but my point is that people have died in this way.
@lenircotia
@lenircotia 4 жыл бұрын
12:22 min I love your research man!!! Thanks!
@Yami1300
@Yami1300 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god the Last Jedi,came out to Unite the Star Wars fans,afther the great prequel split fans disaster. May i ask what are your thoughts on the Force Awakens,now and wean it came out.
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
In all honesty when TFA came out i was sour on the prequels and i was aching for a new star wars but i was very impressionable by youtubers who back the i THOUGHT knew what the hell they were talking about after TLJ came out i completely changed my outlook and started formulating my own opinions rather than just be a sheep like so many prequel haters when TFA came out i liked it a lot bu then again i never hated the prequels or said anything negative about them i just thought less of them i don't like TFA anymore though because I've looked deeper into it i realise now just how disrespectful it was to both lucas and the fans in some ways i'm thankful for it because it also exposed a lot of OT fanboys on the internet
@Axelovskji
@Axelovskji 4 жыл бұрын
"Darth Vader felt humanity in ep.5" *Proceeds to choke an officer over space TV*
@megamike15
@megamike15 4 жыл бұрын
if anything vader had more power with tarkin gone. it's the only movie where he is in charge and able to do what he wants even if palps is the one who orders him to go after luke.
@elsacristina9
@elsacristina9 3 жыл бұрын
The fruit is called Shuura and it is Padmé favorite fruit
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like rain wanted to split the fandom into two after releasing a movie in his vision oh wait
@deleteduser121
@deleteduser121 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they wanted Anakin to be a Mary Sue. This guy watches to many 80s action movies.
@kkrchari
@kkrchari 2 жыл бұрын
Jar Jar is quite important to the plot in part 1. His casual remark about Gungans being warriors gives the idea of returning to Naboo and seeking Gungan alliance to Padme.
@jameshancock2309
@jameshancock2309 4 жыл бұрын
Saw you on the EFAP debate, definitely enjoying your content. I never even realized the Prequels had so much vocal hate and bashing going on. God, no wonder Lucas sold SW to Disney. Could you turn up the volume though, I can barely hear you on my tablet.
@prodjarsarif7793
@prodjarsarif7793 5 жыл бұрын
awesome vid cheers^^
@anomalyinc3239
@anomalyinc3239 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate
@JaketheMovieGeek
@JaketheMovieGeek 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so tired of people saying the prequels are terrible films. I grew up with both the OT & Prequels. I love them both.
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