That is super nice!

I'm truly sorry for you m8, nobody deserves to get scammed like that for a chinese parts quartz movement watch

Check out a graf zeppelin quartz. I have one super nice. The shell cordovan strap is easily 10 times nicer than this whole watch

@@ryanblake4790 Um ok.

If you're looking for the style but cheaper. Check out Timex Weekender. They're only $30 or so and have be very similar look.

Check out the Detroit Watch Co.

us.tissotshop.com/men-s-automatic-iii-classic-white-automatic-watch.html In my opinion, you cannot beat the quality per dollar Tissot offers. There you have an automatic, stainless steel case, sapphire crystal. Probably a 23 jewel swiss movement (swiss parts, swiss made) at the exact same price.

+topcow23 "automatic" movement being the disqualifying feature.

check out what hamilton watches has to offer.

+Watchandjewelryloft I've seen plenty of Gucci watches stamped Swiss Made, with the same mechanism but assembled in the Philippines.

Made in Detroit/USA a bit much? Wow.,.......

The majority of the parts come from Shenzhen, China. This is anything but an American-made watch.

Splootan the reviewer who did this video is no longer with Watchreport, so can not confirm, but looking at the video I think that is just because of reflection and how the case is rounded and curved.

WatchReport.com hmm thanks I've had 2 and none are sat 100 percent flush..

Splootan That is some poor quality control then. For what they charge it should be flush.

WatchReport.com am I being anal even if it only by half a millimeter or so... thanks

Splootan yes you are lol

Its priced as if it has an automatic movement.. so that's good enough right?

They make a Runwell Automatic these days

Detroit only makes cars. Both detroit watch companies have very bad false advertisements claims as they mostly use chinese parts without that reflecting on the price. Buy a watch from any other state lmao

Cases are Chinese. The quartz mvmt is a crappy swiss Ronda. There are $50 watches with the Ronda. This brand is overpriced, over-hyped rubbish. www.freep.com/story/money/business/2016/06/17/shinola-altering-marketing-claims-after-ftc-rebuke/86044878/

No dude. The mechanism is a GOOD Swiss Ronda. I've said elsewhere in this review, that whether you like Ronda or dislike it has a lot to do with perspective. If I find a Ronda in a $1500 Gucci, I'm pretty disappointed. If I find it in, say, a Guess watch, I'm pretty impressed. The particular mechanism that Shinola is using is a top end Ronda -I would be very surprised if you could find a watch that uses this particular movement in it for under $300 USD. The mechanism Shinola uses in the Runwell is a stainless steel, gold plated, 7 jewel mechanism. As for the case, etc... I don't disagree with you... exactly. But, I have to point out the reality of the situation. A lot of high end manufacturers are cutting corners, and their quality is dropping drastically. I was opening all these Coach watches, and was very impressed... bought my wife one. When I finally opened it, was shocked that the mechanism quality had tanked... and two years later, the mechanism Coach is using is exactly the mechanism I'd expect to see in a Coach KNOCKOFF. The downward trend of their quality is a precipice that would give an experienced mountaineer vertigo. I'm also opening more and more Swiss watches by established Switzerland companies, and more and more often I'm seeing Chinese manufactured cases. Oh noes, Shinola uses a Chinese made case? Well, shit... so does fucking Tissot, or Movado. ...worse, the knockoffs coming out of China are probably being made using moulds, specs, or parts made for the actual watch that is being knocked off. ...but still; the case on a Shinola is fucking SOLID. Made in China? Sure. But, it's a serious piece of hardware. When assholes like Donald Trump stop farming out manufacturing jobs to China, and instead hire American labourers... or, consumers are willing to pay the money for a Swiss Made, or American Made, or ... fuck, Canadian made consumer goods... then this will be a valid complaint.

Amen brother. i love my Shinolas and I'm a Quartz lifer. I rather change my own battery then rely on someone else for servicing which will cost me more money in the future. I love horology, so owning a decent automatic in the future is the goal, but I'm satisfied with my Quartz. and the heft of the stainless steel is what i love the most about these watches, very sturdy and solid

ErichSRQ I love my Shinola such a lovely watch I actually prefer it from my Omega

Jackhammer Johnny I like made in USA you act like trump hasn’t done anything to bring jobs back to America? Plus it’s us companies love to outsource thier jobs especially in customer service! It’s called commercialism you make your product as cheap as possible and sell as high as you can, but to blame trump? This outsourcing started many many years ago! Trumps only been in office a cpl years and I’ve been talking to Tim in Bangladesh about my cable bill for the last 15 years and it started with nafta many years ago trump is no different than any other business man he makes the most profit possible in his businesses but to say trump is responsible for outsourcing is incorrect and a cheap shot at best! Ford just announced its hiring 700 more Americans to one of its factory’s due to the trump administration pressure and threat of extreme taxation of thier products comming from Mexico so trump is bringing back jobs

You may notice that the haters neglect to mention that the Cartier Tank Francaise has a quartz movement and 90% of the commenters couldn't afford one. Don't like Shinola...don't buy one. Vacheron Constantin and Patek Phillippe may be more to your liking....perhaps you can buy a fake. LOL

Will Tee 100% with you and you raise a good point!

I prefer quartz movements I have one automatic and it can be a pain in the butt

+M_Bergeron I confess to knowing nothing about watches, so I ask, Is quartz "really" more accurate than automatics? (I way love an accurate watch over one that's less accurate but has more bells and whistles.)

+SatanISintheWorld! GetRightWithTheLORDJesus!! www.thetailoredwatch.com/faq

+SatanISintheWorld! GetRightWithTheLORDJesus!! A quartz watch is, without a doubt, more accurate than an automatic. Here's a breakdown of the technology... A quartz crystal will vibrate at a constant speed when you run electricity through it. A circuit counts vibrations, and when a seconds worth is detected, it signals the step-motor to fire, advancing the watch one second. That 1 second interval will be constant, constantly. In good working order, a Quartz watch will not lose time. A mechanical watch operates on an uncoiling mainspring. You either hand wind the spring, or an unbalanced fly winds it for you (automatic or self winding watch). Some clever monkey figured out how to match the speed at with that mainspring uncoils with 1 second... but there are all sorts of factors that will influence that uncoiling speed. Imagine, if you will, how a watch that is adjusted for speed in a cool workshop might run fast in a hot climate. It is expected that, even in good working condition, a mechanical watch will lose (or gain) a few minutes a month.

+M_Bergeron Thanks much for the link! I filed it and will check it out soon when I have more time.:-)

+Jackhammer Johnny Hmm that's good stuff to know, thanks! I looked at Rolexs while at the mall a couple of years ago and was surprised and disappointed that the guy said it was guaranteed to stay within 7 seconds per month (at least that's what I think he said, though it might have been less). I thought, Wow, my atomic Casio (at the time) does a way better job than the $7,000 Rolex! I guess it's just a case of different strokes for different folks at the end of the day.

You should of tried the 41mm.

I didn't want the 41mm. It's too large. I'd say the obvious "should have" is that they should send a mens watch band for a watch listed as a mens watch. It was their mistake and they didn't own up to it. Shinola ultimately replaced the ill-sized women's band with a mens band, but it took about twenty complaints.

The 41mm is a pretty standard size. 36mm is rather small for a mans watch

I must agree 36mm is definitely a woman’s watch size anything over 40 is good

lol very old review and yes the reviewer should have taken into account his smaller wrist size with a large watch.

Gimmick and marketing. It’s durable and timeless and it will run well …every brand needs a catch.

Corny name. The seiko runforever

henry lee in fairness... this was a few years ago; before I (Don) instituted a different way of doing the reviews. This is more of a presentation, but he does discuss he would like to see an automatic for this price point. Further, the reviewer may have just liked the watch. everyone has different opinions and should not be taken as gospel.

Understood, thanks for followup. As a person who temporarily left the watch community and is now back, I was new to some of the microbrands. I heard about Shinola and began to look into them because it's always good to buy American. This was one of the few positive reviews. It seems they are quite superficial: looks good from afar but...

Dimitri Polishuk it’s not confusing. Shinola was a dead brand when the name was bought and turned into a lifestyle/watch brand. They are assembled in US/Detroit with Swiss and Chinese parts

It’s really not that hard to comprehend

Well some of us don't want a fucking Transformer on our wrist.

I am a Russian bot. Haha 47mm is a little big I must admit I got myself the 41mm

Peter Pavlovic very reliable

Ed Loki no need to buy it. No one forcing you to. All good bud.

Hi! As I commented on your other comment, this is a very old review and the person who did it, is no longer working for watch report. I do want to say though, you should check out some of our more recent videos and I don’t want to nor can I sway your opinion, but many watches with automatic movements, good craftsmanship (this Shinola is manufactured in China after all) and good straps and sapphire can be had for $600, and under $1000 in general. You should look into the amount of microbrands on the market. Like check out my recent video on this Straum Opphav, just as an example of what can be done for $800. More Than Just An Amazing Dial. Hands-On With The Straum Opphav. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qd2di6d5qtOsn3U.html

@@watchreport Thanks very classy for your respond to me and I’ll check out your reports. Very cool

@@watchreport Very cool watch thanks for sharing that

@@watchreport I really like the texture of the dial and your recognition that brushed stainless finishes tend to be superior to highly polished finishes over the long run

Haha

You must be too good for those people huh? Let me guess you mommy and daddy bought you a Rolex for graduation? Lol

William Stits I agree I have a Illinois railroad watch that my great grandfather bought in early 1920s damn thing still runs great!

armando cardenas actually... it’s NOT.

Armando, you don't know shit from Shinola (Shinola being an old shoe polish brand hence shine)

yes, price is big. have good swiss made watches with price 500-700$

You know what they say about opinions...

I don't think $550 is out of line for the watch. I think you could pay twice that for a Gucci, get the same mechanism (except assembled in the Philippines instead of USA), and not get a sapphire crystal. You could also buy a Bulova Precisionist and pay over $600, for a Japanese mechanism.

Gucci quite frankly makes shitty watches with an inflated price tag that takes advantage of the fashion minded rather than one of a real watch lover. Bulova on the other hand makes a unique sweeping seconds hand, exceptionally accurate quartz movement. Shinola are none of these things.

I'm entirely in agreement on Gucci. I totally disagree regarding Bulova. You need to understand that Bulova has changed hands several times in the last half-century, and haven't been "good" for about 20 years. I had hoped that they would stop trading on their reputation and start making good watches again. I thought, maybe, the Precisionist was exactly that. But... I've opened several Precisionists, and what's inside is pretty underwhelming... and it's not like making a Quartz movement accurate is difficult. What would tempt me to buy a Shinola, is that it's an American watch, actually assembled in America. A lot of what makes this appealing to me, is the feels... which is silly, but not really. Like, I was just in Hawaii, and they're famous for their Wood Watches. Great. Those watches are assembled in Canada. Canada has a watch company, called Momentum, but they buy their mechanisms from outside sources. Shinola is built around a vision of bringing craftmanship back to the USA, and the have hired Americans and trained them to be craftsman. ...I'm actually Canadian, not American. Similarly, I like the Titan watch, which is a product of India. Why? Because when you crack one of those babies open, it has a (rather nice) Titan made mechanism, assembled in India. Not like Skagen, a "Denmark" watch, with a mediocre Japanese mechanism.

+916FOBS You have no fucking concept. Utterly clueless.

+Jackhammer Johnny ur clueless if you buy that for 500.

I've sold watches, everything from $80 Swatch watches straight through $40,000 Cartier time pieces. Currently, I do technical work on watches. I'm not at a level where I can call myself a Watchmaker, but I've done Stem & Crown repairs, serviced rotor arms on Automatic watches, and installed batteries on tens of thousands of time pieces. All in all, I have eleven years experience in the industry. I've opened this very same model of watch, had a chance to evaluate the build on the case, and inspect the mechanism. When I tell you this time piece is worth $500, then you best believe it's true.

+Jackhammer Johnny sorry cant trick me. Not an expert but im not buying a $500 quart watch founded by Fossil. I rather get me a hamilton, tissot, or seiko for the $500 range.

A Hamilton or Tissot at that price point would also be a good choice. A modern Seiko ain't shit. If you're going to put money into a Seiko watch, buy an Antique from the 80s, or even better, the 70s. A 30 or 40 year old Seiko is a fucking Juggernaut; it just can't be stopped. My Tissot is the 150th anniversary Le Locle automatic, it's a thousand dollar time piece, and the pride of my collection. My Seiko is a #5 Automatic, and I'm sure it's from the mid or early 70s. Still, if I ever find myself with $500 that I can drop on a watch, I would absolutely pick up a Runwell.

Frank Wood Eco Drives are solar powered....

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I like timex weekenders and expedition models I also own invictas and love them I also like quartz movements