The Fallout of Evergreen's Callout Culture

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Benjamin A Boyce

Benjamin A Boyce

5 жыл бұрын

An Evergreen student relates his experience of a class dominated by identity politics, taken in the year following the Evergreen State College protests.
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@RonnieD1970
@RonnieD1970 5 жыл бұрын
Evergreen college turned into Lord of the flies
@thebenc1537
@thebenc1537 5 жыл бұрын
I want to enroll, sign up for all of the social "science" classes and troll everyone in them.
@scottlloyd9762
@scottlloyd9762 5 жыл бұрын
that sounds mean. It also sounds dam fun. Someone needs to do this and get it on video.
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 5 жыл бұрын
+the BenC be sure to wear a body-cam... actually wear several. that channel would fly!
@thebenc1537
@thebenc1537 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah get one of those hidden camera hats or something, it really would be internet gold.
@Ducksauce33
@Ducksauce33 5 жыл бұрын
Evergreen turned into the Ghetto
@nikkid4890
@nikkid4890 5 жыл бұрын
This young man is really lovely. He is astute and level-headed. I wish him a great career in future. Those other privileged brats that were bullying the teachers and other peers, will never last a month in the job market. I hope they learn bitter lessons in humility and gratitude.
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 5 жыл бұрын
oh they'll get employed, their brethren have already infested companies and will deliberately employ less competent versions of themselves (they're called "potatoes") and use them to bully and intimidate other more suited employees (competent and productive) until they leave. companies that do not tolerate these parasites will outcompete companies that do, however as governments mandate these retards be employed at higher and higher levels it will come down to countries which reject this that will ultimately succeed and attract more companies to work within their framework. this mess is not going away soon, decades will be needed to turn it around.
@nikkid4890
@nikkid4890 5 жыл бұрын
naughteedesign Sadly I believe that too. They will have a problem though once affirmative action is officially abolished. Even their 'brethren' will find themselves having to perform or lose their jobs. 🤗
@openSUSE5
@openSUSE5 5 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm more optimistic that the market will sort these people out some way or another. As long as a company's primary objective is to make a profit (and by extension serve their customers), they will be OK, even if they also spend energy promoting silly ideologies like social justice. It's when they prioritize politics or ideology over profit that they go broke. And when that happens, the non-"woke" competition eventually fills the void.
@Carandini
@Carandini 5 жыл бұрын
I no longer believe these Marxist morons can ever be reached. Whatever happens, they will blame it on outside factors, not their own idiotic belief system and Pollyanna denial of reality.
@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 5 жыл бұрын
Not if they land themselves gigs in academia, where they will spread the poison, unchecked.
@1faustus
@1faustus 5 жыл бұрын
If people are 'harmed' by the opinions that they disagree with, is introspection classed as self harm?
@marshallkamph9789
@marshallkamph9789 5 жыл бұрын
Only if you disagree with yourself.
@mrlopez5009
@mrlopez5009 5 жыл бұрын
No, that's self pity.
@openSUSE5
@openSUSE5 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Anything that gets people out of a victim mentality or a complete dependence on leftist social policies and rhetoric is considered self-harm and must be stopped with deadly force.
@nightmathzombieethan
@nightmathzombieethan 5 жыл бұрын
So ironic that being mildly offended or hearing a difference of opinion suddenly justifies assaulting people. So, you heard something that made you mildly uncomfortavle in your thoughts for a moment because someone disagreed with you, so that justifies verbalky or physically assaulting that person because it's viewed as some sort of SJW self defense? It's the equivalent of someone telling you your favorite ice cream flavor is gross, so you break their leg and sonehow think YOU'RE the victim in this case. In order to have to moral high ground, you have to actually be standing on it folks.
@josephfeldman2183
@josephfeldman2183 5 жыл бұрын
1faustus super!Thanks!
@frequencyfuct
@frequencyfuct 5 жыл бұрын
If employees can sue their employer for monetary damages because of a hostile workplace, then students should be able to sue their university for creating and fostering a hostile learning experience.
@OdinOfficialEmcee
@OdinOfficialEmcee 4 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@thelandgravine
@thelandgravine 3 жыл бұрын
B I N G O
@synthesizerneil
@synthesizerneil 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving these students a platform, Ben
@argumentswemake7079
@argumentswemake7079 5 жыл бұрын
Cool guy. VERY low key, phlegmatic recounting of what must have been a quite unpleasant set of experiences. (Try to imagine the SJWs recounting their experiences this way. We might actually be able to have a conversation!)
@mattross945
@mattross945 Жыл бұрын
Phlegmatic is a new one for my lexicon cheers
@judypaulsel9646
@judypaulsel9646 5 жыл бұрын
What a authentic thoughtful young man I’m a 72 yr old retired teacher still interested in education students like this give me hope for the future my generation was lead in a large part by grandstanding egotists t
@RottingEarth
@RottingEarth 5 жыл бұрын
Judy Paulsel I guess you didn't teach English?
@sonnyschovanec4855
@sonnyschovanec4855 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@alex-qd6of
@alex-qd6of 5 жыл бұрын
@@RottingEarth dick.
@Thrallking
@Thrallking 5 жыл бұрын
I hate that this clearly very intelligent man is experiencing all of this nonsense while simply trying to receive a fucking education.
@steve23970
@steve23970 5 жыл бұрын
He should transfer to another college and learn something.
@yuripantyhose4973
@yuripantyhose4973 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, a conservative christian college where there isn't any of this shit.
@scramblex2692
@scramblex2692 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, either a christian college or one where people would respect his degrees. Either way.
@cerebraldreams4738
@cerebraldreams4738 5 жыл бұрын
Scramblex - Ironically, the only downside to a Christian college is biology class. You might get some creationist bullshit, but it's easy to evade...
@benher6934
@benher6934 5 жыл бұрын
This student speaking is not intelligent.
@casperslaststandme5991
@casperslaststandme5991 5 жыл бұрын
Nice guy, this is how parents hope their kids turn out to be when they become adults, ie being able to think for themselves and learning how to set their own standards instead of being told to how to follow like sheep, this guy will grow to be a credit to himself his family and have a well balanced life and well deserved to best wishes for him
@theprogressivecynic2407
@theprogressivecynic2407 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that those students found racial offense in the "dirty" and "clean" language tells us far more about them than it does the teacher who designed the exercise.
@ericemerson308
@ericemerson308 5 жыл бұрын
Concur, PC.
@Makmurf
@Makmurf 5 жыл бұрын
This is horrifying.
@billgray3796
@billgray3796 5 жыл бұрын
back in many moons my English teacher told me that the great majority of teachers concurred that I was the most prejudiced kid in the entire school system...i feel like I am secretariat...my record shall never be broken....sad thing is I would have liked to be wrong....but history has proven me spot on....the theatre of the absurd...you simply cannot make this shit up...its totally nazi bullshit...smearing individuals or groups that do not tote party line to their nautious
@billgray3796
@billgray3796 5 жыл бұрын
nautious Orwellian bullshit
@chinogambino9375
@chinogambino9375 5 жыл бұрын
The rules the teacher agreed to are contradictory. If the rule is not to emotional harm or offend anyone then you cannot have call outs and vicious attacks without creating exceptions. At that point you are set up for conflict, the standards for behaviour are arbitrarily set by the most aggressive people who refuse to justify why you should accept their self serving values. Its intolerable to anyone with self respect and a bit of intelligence.
@iasonasmaas697
@iasonasmaas697 5 жыл бұрын
At least some of the most vocal and harsh activist students sound like classic cases of Narcissist Personality Disorder.
@watchin_kc
@watchin_kc 5 жыл бұрын
Bingo... This is like mass-narcissism..at the societal level... A generation of clueless jerks who truly believe that they are awesome and that the rest of society ought to listen to them.. All the same traits and techniques are used too.. projection, gaslighting, histrionics, entitlement, inability to introspect, blame-shifting lies,lies,lies, smear campaigns, triangulation, and on and on.. I don't think the worst ones give a crap about "social justice" either... It looks more like they use it as easy pretend virtue and a cheap way of framing everything in such a way that they supposedly appear to be morally Superior and whoever disagrees is by default against buzzword this or buzzword that... Ie- How long will it take for one of them to call me a name like white supremacist or fascist?
@aliceiscalling
@aliceiscalling 5 жыл бұрын
Narcissistic, Histrionic, and Antisocial Personality Disorder should be looked into, if you can even convince these people to go to a doctor that won't tell them how special they are.
@stephenh5944
@stephenh5944 5 жыл бұрын
So a "professor" basically kicked this guy out out a class because they disagreed, when he's paying her salary? Holy hell.
@mirandahoyle-dodson3087
@mirandahoyle-dodson3087 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, i'm here cause I took computer science with Thomas. Good to see you, man, and I hope you're doing well. Takes a lot of guts to talk about what happened at Evergreen. There was definitely a lot of conflict that year. I hope future students can take the lessons from what happened and move towards a more open dialogue about things. I'm glad to be a graduate now.
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas is a class act. I hope you got what you needed out of TESC.
@mirandahoyle-dodson3087
@mirandahoyle-dodson3087 5 жыл бұрын
I definitely don't regret being an evergreen student. There were negative experiences but there were a lot of positive experiences as well.
@fredjones554
@fredjones554 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Any behavior that is rewarded will increase in frequency. The only response to bullying is confrontation.
5 жыл бұрын
"I learned more at a community college." I love that line! I hope we get to a point where school names mean nothing, and employers look at skills and experience over which school you attended.
@ebert8756
@ebert8756 4 жыл бұрын
Community colleges are great, if we can keep them that way. Right now they are very burdened with compensating for our lagging secondary school performance.
@TropicalCoder
@TropicalCoder 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like "Lord of the Flies". What a horrible experience. He and others should sue the institution, who had an obligation to provide the students with an education instead of brainwashing them.
@magamike1800
@magamike1800 5 жыл бұрын
yes, the old lord of the flies with boys. not the new lord of the flies with girls. ha ha.
@iamgroot8954
@iamgroot8954 5 жыл бұрын
If I am an employer, Anybody who walks into an interview with the word "Evergreen College" in their resume will automatically be disqualified.
@tetraquark2402
@tetraquark2402 5 жыл бұрын
Ugh 'Problematic' I hate that word it's a vague, lazy hammer
@mrlopez5009
@mrlopez5009 5 жыл бұрын
"Lazy" is problematic... we aren't "lazy", we prefer the term exhausted from too much inactivity.😉
@openSUSE5
@openSUSE5 5 жыл бұрын
So many innocent words ruined . . . Merriam and Webster must be doing somersaults in their graves.
@Nisshoku
@Nisshoku 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed. "Problematic" was used a lot in Lindsay Shepard's hearing too, by the faculty members of course. Problematic is an attempt to avoid burden of proof. Instead of saying your behavior is a problem and being prepared to defend that, you can say: "your behavior is causing problems" (problematic) which can be outright bullshit, but the liar only has to come up with something vague. Its linguistic tricks to make things more and more abstract, until the burden of proof is dissolved.
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 5 жыл бұрын
Salient insight, Mr Shao
@Nisshoku
@Nisshoku 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for arranging this interview, Thomas too if he reads this.
@Craftal
@Craftal 5 жыл бұрын
I laughed my ass off when I first read his paper. What a guy. Glad I introduced you guys, I think more people could stand to hear Tom talk. :)
@bashkillszombies
@bashkillszombies 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh I thought they met on Grindr. But I've been told that this is a particular type of Canadianisms.
@jeffreydharma9413
@jeffreydharma9413 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, dude. I hope all's well in Colorado or wherever you're at these days,
@deviljelly3
@deviljelly3 5 жыл бұрын
Ben, it will be a fine documentary. Don't rush to complete it. This is perfect source material
@crackshot4797
@crackshot4797 5 жыл бұрын
Since when has Orwell's dystopia become a template to emulate, rather than a cautionary tale to avoid? Really evokes the image of Soviet-era self-criticism sessions
@docrocket55
@docrocket55 5 жыл бұрын
Did I just listen to the tale of an excommunication? Oh wait, this is the behavior of the clerg.... uh....... faculty at a publicly funded college. Question professors, kiddos
@scottlloyd9762
@scottlloyd9762 5 жыл бұрын
not only Question professors Question everything
@mariokarter13
@mariokarter13 5 жыл бұрын
"Irish and Italians used to be considered black." - College Professor
@jankragt7789
@jankragt7789 5 жыл бұрын
D L But he said the professors were substitutes and that the students intimidated them to tears. It is an aggressive identity - ideology / PC with an emphasis on power -- addiction to power, cloaked with love words: inclusion, diversity, sensitivity training, oppressed..... It also seems to feed on "soft" course material -- the humanities -- and a lack of belief in anything -- i.e. a vacuum. The majority of people on the left have been fooled into thinking it is all about "niceness."
@andrewmattox1233
@andrewmattox1233 5 жыл бұрын
This is why we can't have nice things.
@Delgen1951
@Delgen1951 5 жыл бұрын
Now the telling question is can they meet their own standards?
@markcoleman374
@markcoleman374 5 жыл бұрын
Graduates of evergreen are remaining unemployed as businesses are not hiring them.
@user-pc8ee8sx7v
@user-pc8ee8sx7v 5 жыл бұрын
I hope not. If enough of them get into a company, like Google, this will happen at work, too.
@passiveaggressivenegotiato8087
@passiveaggressivenegotiato8087 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard that local city and county governments hire them
@markcoleman374
@markcoleman374 4 жыл бұрын
@@passiveaggressivenegotiato8087 i bet that's true. The would be an asset for regime change
@performancepursuit
@performancepursuit 5 жыл бұрын
He spoke with the ease of someone who is completely truthful. Great interview and insight on modern American colleges.
@Orf
@Orf 4 жыл бұрын
16:45 I learned more from a film class in community college than a whole year at evergreen.***
@sukilu1964
@sukilu1964 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview. Great job.
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Suki
@ilcilc2910
@ilcilc2910 5 жыл бұрын
A rather reasonable young man in a sea of unreasonableness .
@jenniferglenn14
@jenniferglenn14 4 жыл бұрын
I wish this young man nothing but the best. He’s open minded and willing to listen to other’s opinions all while being respectful.
@derekmcgregor7459
@derekmcgregor7459 5 жыл бұрын
As a former humanities student, I can say he's dead on point. Feelings take centre stage. Decided that law enforcement was the career for me lol
@HEDGE1011
@HEDGE1011 4 жыл бұрын
Derek Mcgregor Great Derek, and thank you. We actually need law enforcement!
@danielyoung633
@danielyoung633 5 жыл бұрын
This dude needs some sort of medal for dealing with this environment without resorting to suicide/homicide
@jankragt7789
@jankragt7789 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin, please ask this very admirable young man what he believes helped him to stay free from the ugly behavior of this situation. What in his experience or background may have contributed to his abilities to see through what was being forced on him? And to not run but to stand confident and solid as a human being? And then make decisions according to his best judgment? This is very crucial for us to learn. Also: has he experience communism? He reminded me a little of some of the Eastern European denizens of KZfaq in his immunity to propaganda.
@i.sirius6204
@i.sirius6204 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin, I really enjoy and appreciate your work on this series on Evergreen. I came across your channel a month or two ago, and have not yet seen any of your other work. You have a great deal of courage to take on producing a series on this subject, especially considering the danger that it places you in. This is such an important series. If the type of people who have created this situation are allowed to continue for much longer, the consequences across our society will be devastating. Thank you for producing and posting this very fine series.
@i.sirius6204
@i.sirius6204 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for highlighting. I am honored. ☺️
@georgehernandez9767
@georgehernandez9767 5 жыл бұрын
Truer words have never been spoken regarding this matter. I commend this gentleman for speaking his mind and see a bright future ahead of him. I also thank Benjamin Boyce for having this series on his channel. Thank you both!
@IamDerick
@IamDerick 5 жыл бұрын
I hope there are more young folks with this mindset. Interesting point of view. Well said. Thanks.
@thebibosez7949
@thebibosez7949 5 жыл бұрын
The Evergreen prof Annie Fischel, Kept Media Works prejudicial: She's very straitlaced, When you go to her place; Her orals were just superficial!
@ejpoleii
@ejpoleii 5 жыл бұрын
Cute. And a double entendre!
@Crash103179
@Crash103179 5 жыл бұрын
Don't go to Evergreen State It's become quite Marxist of late, All ideological and not pedagogical, Sliding below second rate.
@Crash103179
@Crash103179 5 жыл бұрын
Bibo, Farley, you are brilliant as ever.
@Dragonblaster1
@Dragonblaster1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sick to the teeth, Evergreen Though I know you don't know what I mean The kids are perverse The faculty's worse With intolerance more than obscene
@jlawrence0181
@jlawrence0181 5 жыл бұрын
This student is truly articulate and thoughtful. This is a student who I would like to be in a class with.
@PartyChancho
@PartyChancho 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks PartyChancho🍻
@sampsonroofing7377
@sampsonroofing7377 5 жыл бұрын
What is Washington's governor doing about this? Why isn't he taking immediate steps to have George Bridges removed?
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 5 жыл бұрын
The legislator isn’t completely unaware of the situation.
@sampsonroofing7377
@sampsonroofing7377 5 жыл бұрын
Of course they're not completely unaware. They're right there in Olympia. But this is something the state's Chief Executive, who is also right there, should be taking action about. It's astonishing it's been allowed to continue, and Bridges is allowed to stay.
@DerivativeWorker
@DerivativeWorker 5 жыл бұрын
Washington's governor, Jay Inslay, is pretty delusional. He doesn't do anything unless it's filing another lawsuit against the president. Odds are he actually condones Bridges.
@DM-qp7do
@DM-qp7do 5 жыл бұрын
ESmith you are correct lol. I live in Washington and Jay Inslee is the worst governor we've ever had, he's a dem of course so he sides with the delusional children and would never do anything to hurt his snowflake friendly career. He's done nothing but raise taxes and lie. He's been caught multiple times and confronted on his lies but the left chooses to ignore it.
@NoPowerintheVerse
@NoPowerintheVerse 4 жыл бұрын
Inslee didn’t know Chop/Chaz was happening (according to him when questions). Near as I can tell he would rather ignore things and hope they go away.
@hagbardceline9909
@hagbardceline9909 5 жыл бұрын
Good, something to listen to while I drink my coffee
@TenFeetDown
@TenFeetDown 5 жыл бұрын
Hagbard, nice to see you here :)
@NostraFnDamus
@NostraFnDamus 5 жыл бұрын
Real men just snort the ground coffee beans.
@openSUSE5
@openSUSE5 5 жыл бұрын
Real men inject pure caffeine directly into their heart.
@gg_rider
@gg_rider 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome Hagbard. It's so much fun when you deconstruct weirdos but this guy isn't the weirdo. :(
@hagbardceline9909
@hagbardceline9909 5 жыл бұрын
wait what Ben? I love Ben
@bobkelley8291
@bobkelley8291 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. It is nice to see the young man can think for himself.
@JamesMathison
@JamesMathison 5 жыл бұрын
More interviews with ex students of this place please!! Is insanely illuminating.
@bashkillszombies
@bashkillszombies 5 жыл бұрын
When I was still in law school we were taught judicial activism is a good thing, to be promoted. Openly. I thought that was the most insulting thing to education - if I knew this was the future I'd have never have pressed the issue.
@TairyHesticles
@TairyHesticles 5 жыл бұрын
This seems like a really solid kid. He's very level-headed and saw indoctrination for what it was. Good for you, kid, you should go far with this mentality.
@donnaknudson7296
@donnaknudson7296 5 жыл бұрын
When I was in in college in the mid to late eighties and then again for a Masters Degree in the Mid 90s it was my experience that the more conservative the environment (the 1st school) the less questions were tolerated by the students. But the more liberal professors there and then at the 2nd school which was mostly liberalish, everybody tolerated questions, debates, differences of opinion. That's why I am so freaked out now to hear that these "liberal" schools are so filled with indoctrination and so intolerant. Also, during my time, at both schools different races and cultures got along fine. (Gosh I remember having feisty debates with certain teachers. I was the kind of student they liked.)
@zenden6564
@zenden6564 2 жыл бұрын
To the young man regarding his teacher that pushed him out: Yes she didn't want to 'deal' with you because she knew you're doubtlessly far more intelligent and open than she capable of being.
@deadarmd
@deadarmd 5 жыл бұрын
In DC despite the cities' hardcore liberal leanings, Evergreen is looked upon as a complete joke.
@tashanaive4284
@tashanaive4284 5 жыл бұрын
When did Kindergartens get renamed into Colleges?
@rossthemusicandguitarteacher
@rossthemusicandguitarteacher 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it up!
@Ramiiam
@Ramiiam 5 жыл бұрын
If all this is true, that instructor should be fired.
@psevant1
@psevant1 4 жыл бұрын
This Man gives me hope.
@jacksonblaze423
@jacksonblaze423 5 жыл бұрын
I'm viewing the history of this phenomenon sort of late, but it's still relevant. The guy you are interviewing is really cool - I think this video by itself could get him numerous job offers precisely because he seems like a stable person with a lot of integrity. Maybe you should do a series on people with integrity in similar situations (something like that) to point out the real positives. You can't beat a good man (woman) down.
@rodpruitt8926
@rodpruitt8926 5 жыл бұрын
Great Vid. Very intelligent young man. We have to remember that liberal Arts majors are not usually very thoughtful people. Students in the math, science and more academically rigorous fields of study are forced to think and debate and use logic. These students are always offensive to the kids that are just getting a degree for the sake of having a degree, who didn't come to college to think or be challenged. Some students come to college to learn how to think, but some come to learn what to think. Sad.
@johnnysays5879
@johnnysays5879 5 жыл бұрын
nicely put, Rod!
@jrblunt
@jrblunt 5 жыл бұрын
Science and math are part of the liberal arts. Thus someone who majors in Chemistry has a liberal arts major. I think you confuse the liberal arts with English literature and other "interpretive" liberal arts majors that seem less rigorous than math and science.
@beth2182
@beth2182 5 жыл бұрын
Liberal arts majors aren't usually thoughtful people????????? You need to rethink this.
@alecperdeau650
@alecperdeau650 5 жыл бұрын
I almost forgot about Evergreen. Christ, that school is still open?
@LordSantiagor
@LordSantiagor 5 жыл бұрын
In my day, emotional tantrums mostly ended after primary school. I'm not even that old, how fast things have changed!
@addcolor1834
@addcolor1834 4 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I don’t understand the dynamic of a classroom that allows ppl to behave in such a disruptive manner for any reason. How is it that a student takes over and dominates a college class by yelling, being hostile and thinking only about how they perceive a situation, and, at the same time complain that they don’t feel respected or listened too? Do they realize they have become exactly what they hate and are doing to others exactly what they accuse others of doing? Intimidation doesn’t bring understanding. Vulnerability is where the healing and true connection we all need comes from. That college was able to acknowledge the wound but could not foster healing. You don’t heal a wound by constantly picking at it.
@dnaworks
@dnaworks 5 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating interview, and illustrates first-hand the problems with modern academia
@tubeMonger
@tubeMonger 5 жыл бұрын
This guy seems pretty smart and able to articulate his ideas very well. I bet that the thought police from the college will have a hard time in employing themselves.
@mariomendoza8041
@mariomendoza8041 5 жыл бұрын
Those thought police can only work in academia. Most workplaces don't put up with their crap.
@Lundalf
@Lundalf 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome interview. And what an insanely chill and level headed guy. It's pretty sad how Evergreen is digging its own grave, pushing away people like this who actually have something of quality to bring to the table..
@sunshizzleyou
@sunshizzleyou 5 жыл бұрын
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@oldhick9047
@oldhick9047 4 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone hire an Evergreen grad, can you imagine trying to supervise one.
@shimtest
@shimtest 5 жыл бұрын
"We need to provide a space for people of color" *student of color has an opinion* "Student of color, can you segregate away from us?"
@leongrubaugh2418
@leongrubaugh2418 5 жыл бұрын
Africa
@lawrencesally6189
@lawrencesally6189 5 жыл бұрын
Think about this, replace the word color with white and then tell us how you think/feel about what was written!
@NextWorldVR
@NextWorldVR 5 жыл бұрын
They can have an opinion. They CAN'T SCREAM IT and take HOSTAGES like dangerous criminals!
@king-jerr
@king-jerr 5 жыл бұрын
thats racist. if i say we need to provide a space for whites.you say it was racist so so is what your saying.
@andrewmattox1233
@andrewmattox1233 5 жыл бұрын
Also replace what they say about "white people", with "jews" and compare that to Hitler's speeches. It should help identify who the National Socialist are.
@DouglasMoran
@DouglasMoran 5 жыл бұрын
What struck me about the tweet in the opening (0:36) was the notion that students would need *help* filling out the application to be in the class.
@pazful
@pazful 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see more of this guy
@homelesszombieapocalypse6622
@homelesszombieapocalypse6622 5 жыл бұрын
Good job, thanks for your work on this ongoing issue at Evergreen. I'm looking forward to the film "No Safe Spaces" to be premiering next year, apparently. The stuff going on at Evergreen and many elite universities is beyond ridiculous. It's clearly a (pseudo) religious cult we are dealing with. I address that aspect of this in my own film on Identity Politics , see my KZfaq channel.
@delmusingle2338
@delmusingle2338 5 жыл бұрын
Being an artist myself. I like this guy's shirt. He definitely has a high degree of intelligence. I hope he goes far in life.
@Donnie7843
@Donnie7843 5 жыл бұрын
This is what is going to eventually happen: The collective group will get along for awhile, conform to their own commonality, then when a new splinter group or different ideas generate there will become infighting because of lack of tolerance. This reminds me of the social psychology game of intergroup dynamics.
@francesbeard3540
@francesbeard3540 5 жыл бұрын
I had a class online at Bandman University for MSW and the term "white flight" was used in reference to a situation in the 70's.. A student t was offended and the Professor who is a Phd tried to get me written up for offending a student who wrote in a complaint anonymously... . It turned into a battle b/t me and the instructor...Then i realized the Possessor did not know what the term meant.. . It sis easy to be offended... I am always offended.... but it should mot interfere with freedom of speech of another person.. Simply sending the email for the Evergreen professor was enough to get him in trouble.. that is mind boggling.. The person who leaked the email should be fired if anything.
@seijunsejuki
@seijunsejuki 5 жыл бұрын
This guy gives me hope - he went to Evergreen and he's not a complete loony
@divergentsenior
@divergentsenior 3 жыл бұрын
It is the “my truth” or “my lived experience” is more meaningful than yours that creates the escalation. Reminds me of a quote in the late Merle Shain’s book “Some Men Are More Perfect Than Others.” “Greater to me Than your love for me Is my love for you Because it is MINE.”
@Phydeos
@Phydeos 5 жыл бұрын
Listening to how the teachers and the leadership works and respond to things makes me wonder how the heck does this school function as an institute for learning? Seems to be that the only thing they're concerned about is to reinforce their own views unopposed and if anyone disagree they're the ones who are being 'problematic'. Benjamin, since your mission seems to be to shine the public light on the madness that is Evergreen, what was your experience there in general?
@PhilippAurand
@PhilippAurand 5 жыл бұрын
Thoughtful eloquent young man. Nice shirt.
@miss-nomer
@miss-nomer 5 жыл бұрын
Beginning of video: “who the hell is this scruffy weirdo?” End of video: “I love you please be my friend, you scruffy weirdo.”
@trygvej.7792
@trygvej.7792 5 жыл бұрын
Can you put out some more of your music on the channel? I really liked it!
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been concerned with “mixing” my creative work into this channel, but I’ll sift through my hard drives and post a few more tracks, just for you ☺️
@heimdallsgate6141
@heimdallsgate6141 5 жыл бұрын
CHOCOLATE WEEEEEEEEEDDDD
@heimdallsgate6141
@heimdallsgate6141 5 жыл бұрын
@@dabi989 yeah that one was great as well written for his cousin I believe.
@klrdotorg7135
@klrdotorg7135 5 жыл бұрын
This kid is great. I really like his t-shirt. Haven't seen it before.
@RedprintBobcat
@RedprintBobcat 5 жыл бұрын
This guy looks like me. Also, Evergreen called me up back in 2015 when I was still in the military so maybe... this is me from an alternate timeline!
@triggerfingerstudios
@triggerfingerstudios 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing is objective, truth and facts are all based on people's "experiences". What a freaking disaster when this gets poured out on society at large.
@aphidamas1
@aphidamas1 5 жыл бұрын
Actions may definitively harm someone. Opinions may only harm someone as much as one lets them.
@PqV72MT4
@PqV72MT4 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, I'm really interested in this project. When is the documentary coming out?
@seanp.kilroy6833
@seanp.kilroy6833 5 жыл бұрын
My question: Why is a kid this bright attending Evergreen State College? He could clearly get scholarships to attend a more serious university. He's brighter and more articulate than just about anybody I remember from my collegiate years. I hope he's moved on to a better academic environment.
@aeronomer8389
@aeronomer8389 5 жыл бұрын
This guy was so lucid, he actually gives me hope.
@edsmith202
@edsmith202 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
5 жыл бұрын
At 1:36 - It would be nice to know a bit more about the enrollment graph... Enrollment means (to me) the number of students that are taken in, not that apply. For example I would imagine when the graph is trending up then there are probably more applications than there are places available. A small trend down 2009-2012 could mean anything: less applications, less places because of cost savings, etc. But the continued trend down from 2012 probably means that there weren't enough applications to fill the number of places and that the criteria for accepting a student would have been dropped to rock bottom. So what I think is that if we were to look at application stats which in my mind is more telling then they would have been much worse.
@sonnyschovanec4855
@sonnyschovanec4855 5 жыл бұрын
Now this student has his sh!t together.
@anonony9081
@anonony9081 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at how unsurprising his story is. They are the exact types I expected them to be.
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 5 жыл бұрын
not sure his analogy re: info-wars and the new your times stands up. ;) great interview benjamin, thank you.
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised you and others have a bone to pick with that illustration ;)
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 5 жыл бұрын
inaccurate is inaccurate amirite?
@naughteedesign
@naughteedesign 5 жыл бұрын
by regressive-logic™ info-wars should have precedence as power + privilege or some such bs like that. technically they're the oppressed minority and their voice should be heard no?
@Aethgeir
@Aethgeir 5 жыл бұрын
I like that t-shirt!
@thebibosez7949
@thebibosez7949 5 жыл бұрын
Double hats and cats would have been a big help getting through this one. The {{HARM}} was gruesome.
@Orf
@Orf 4 жыл бұрын
23:15 "I didn't feel anyone was learning anything. It was just a group of people reinforcing their believe system"
@Incessuserro
@Incessuserro 5 жыл бұрын
Cool shirt.
@ronineternales6702
@ronineternales6702 5 жыл бұрын
Hard not to be angry watching this
@sluggo2014
@sluggo2014 5 жыл бұрын
Can I guess who the "Collective" included ? Yes I can If the exercise had featured Black and White, that would have been interesting. Weird they got triggered by Clean and Dirty. Is that harmful to sane people?
@mlbmba9546
@mlbmba9546 4 жыл бұрын
The incredible disservice this “college” is doing to these children is astonishing. They will be so ill served by this upon hitting the real world. It’s going to be like bugs on a windshield.
@Marimilitarybrat
@Marimilitarybrat 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing this former student says about the media class sounds even vaguely like an educational experience in media. I can't believe parents are paying for this education. Evergreen should be paying the students to attend class.
@sincerely-b
@sincerely-b 5 жыл бұрын
In my honest opinion, this young man could probably teach a better class than his teacher... Which must've made her feel threatened. She wasn't capable of defending the ideology she was promoting. Smart young man. Seeing this interview and his attitude toward this situation has given me hope.
@magamike1800
@magamike1800 5 жыл бұрын
who would encourage their kids to go to a place like this, and who would borrow money to pay to go to the place like this?
@klrdotorg7135
@klrdotorg7135 5 жыл бұрын
True believers.
@maddog3902
@maddog3902 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really thinking about enrollment at evergreen just for the potential to shake up the campus culture. Any advice? Sticking with computer arts and moozak...
@76not84
@76not84 5 жыл бұрын
Under no circumstances should you do this! You will not grow intellectually and you will pay dearly for the privilege. If you want to attend college, please look carefully at the list at heterodox academy heterodoxacademy.org/guide-to-colleges/
@condew6103
@condew6103 5 жыл бұрын
Enroll at Evergreen? I can't imagine any good coming from that, for you or them.
@maddog3902
@maddog3902 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the idea that I would cease to grow intellectually. I find it preposterous, actually. As an artist/musician/writer and discordian pope I find it like most things to be absurd to consider the notion that my surroundings there would hinder me in any considerable fashion.
@76not84
@76not84 5 жыл бұрын
@@maddog3902 SJWs are a dime a dozen and are stunted intellectually by their ideology so why pay a bucket of money and time not to be challenged meaningfully? You can always troll tumblr for the same kicks Evergreen will give you for free and get an education somewhere people are intellectually honest. Meaning no offense, I can't help but wonder if part of the impetus for this plan may be to avoid the challenge of an academically-rigorous college. Fwiw, I'm speaking from the perspective of someone with a PhD in a field awash in social justice who has taught hundreds of students at several universities. That experience tells me that there's plenty of truth in the idea that when you argue with a fool, you become a fool. Far better to surround yourself with people you admire, at college or anywhere else in life.
@hangitfire2136
@hangitfire2136 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate his candor. The whole "your truth" thing is just malarky in my opinion. There is only 1 truth, but there are many perceptions of a situation. Some people get to the truth of the situation, some people try but never get there, some just ignore the truth and others try to make their perception the truth.
@jlwaddey9579
@jlwaddey9579 5 жыл бұрын
amazing how few folks know how much they don't know
@kiwicodger
@kiwicodger 5 жыл бұрын
Man, this is 'Lord of the Flies" stuff.
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