korgeth ok, so this is what I'm talking. I tried moving the coils in front of the air direction (in the OG Goon) and found flavor lacking. Move them up a bit and bam! Wonder why that is? Thanks for sharing that.

Not sure man. But like I said above OG Goon works better with coils slightly above the air is best I have found. But on the Goon 1.5, it works very well with the coils directly in front of the air. The only Multi-air-hole RDA I have that I do like the coils directly in front of the airflow in the Bonza. All the others I have to raise them above the airflow slightly. I am talking about side airflow RDA's BTW. And all my Single hole on each side RDA's with either Cyclops or a Round hole are all directly in front of the airflow. Just something I have found with my particular RDA's and the way I like to vape. Hope that helps a little. But I still don't know why though. :P

korgeth right! Yes I completely 👍 agree! Not sure why, but even my old av comp caps for the able mechanical mods are the same! The coils go directly in front of the airflow holes to get best flavor. I believe it must have something to do with the way there are multiple holes on the OG Goon (and atty similar) that direct the air in multiple directions. Maybe-just kinda thinking out loud lol. Anyway thanks for pointing that out. This will have me intrigued for the rest of my life until maybe Morten figures it out some day😀

Lots of vapor at *5 watts?*

alpha007org absolutely! This man works hard for all of us! God bless u and all else that understands how hard Morten works for us, and acknowledges are comments. Gotta love him. 👊👍 😎 ONE

Thaks! This took time, all right :-)

Thank you Steven. This was a very fun experiment to set up:-)

Who can't love an atomic nuclear clown :-)

With airlow wide open

Hi Chad! Looking forward to see what you do with it!

Thank you sir! I'm a great fan of Philippine made mods!

Joseph. Yes, and the tighter together the more life it will get.

Sounds like great coils!

Njord will have an insert. I'll make a video when I have the finished product in my hands.

I love the take Pal 702 had on this. For my flat wire coils there is simply no way to cool a dual setup. If you use slower coils, this is a great idea. Thanks.

Matthew Warren Yes he said that with the coils in the first setup, that they were much too hot, and spit alot. The coils close together was his recommendation for duals.

Thanks! And yes.

Morten Oen Awesome!

I did not go that way, the flat wire was all the spatter I could handle.

The VGOD dudes gave me a kit at the expo. I can do a review of it soon.

I'll look into it.

Joe Arnold YES!!! I'm glad you pointed that out. I use 2.5mm dual coils lowered as close as I can get to the deck without shorting. They come in at 0.15 ohms and around 75 watts is the sweet spot for me. Get really really good flavor and even better on a mech.

I think that, as Morten says, it's that indirect airflow that will benefit the claptons much more. I use claptons, and I thought to myself whilst watching this vid, that I'd place my claps right where you are talking about. I don't own one, but thought that's how I'd do it.

It's different. Try it :-)

I spend a week or two making these. Not possible, but thanks :-)

eBay :-)

I don't think the distance down is of any significant importance. That is to say, I did not experience any difference.

You will get a lot of indirect air flow that way. My job is only to show where to get direct air flow, and where it isn't. Thank you so much for this input!

Fat lips I guess :-))

From 0,25 to 0,30. ohms.

Time issues. Everybody has told me to make shorter videoes. This is it.

David.For3v3R. I have the same RDA and I run it dual coil. It's the best flavor dual coil I have. What Morten didn't try is lowering the coils as close to the lowest points on the deck as possible. So close they can't be lowered much more without shorting. This forces the air past and around the coils and by the time it has hit the top of the cap it has a nice warm vape at 75 watts. I'm happy to take a photo for you if you want if I can post a link so you can see what I mean.

Squig I also go massive flavor of this thing. I really didn't think I was getting much when I got the loop, but the deck made it interesting...now I run it with .15-.2 build on a mech and get very great flavor. Always dual coil..always, but now that Morten has came out with this single placement I will most definitely try it on my next time building. Morten brings an element of unknown to vaping that offends some but for me it is MUCH NEEDED:) Keep up the good work Morten...you wouldn't be the first person in history to end up developing something MAJOR the people used to tease or excoriate because your ideas where just too revolutionary. I will always support what you do here Morten...to me YOU ARE a science guy...you are lead by fact that sometimes change your mind like the Etheon review..that was huge. We stand with you because right, wrong , or indifferent you always reserve the right to change your mind as your experience proves otherwise. Good job Morten....keep up your good work!!!

Squig sure, I appreciate the tip, would be grateful if you posted a link so I could see where your putting them. Also, what coils you use and inner diameter, if you don't mind. Thanks.

I really enjoy this rda too. And place coils low as possible. 2×24g n80 38g outer 5wrap ohms .1 really warm build but it has lot of airflow to me and makes it seem cooler. I vape balanced by SVRF and it taste better in it than any other rda I have (dead rabbit, drop, pulse24, reviewer rdas you know).

All the airflow is one of the problems I have with this rda, or more specifically, all that extra room in the bottom of the chamber (more air to dilute the vapor) and the in-direct airflow. I have just about every rda (under $50) that was released in the last 3 years, and tbh, this was one of the biggest disappointments to me. I've found all the reviewers rdas to be underwhelming, except the Nudge 24 and the Phobia, but both of those have things about them I don't like, especially the Phobia. PhobiaBut, flavor-wise, both of them have great flavor. I've yet to find the "perfect" rda. I think what it comes down to, is everybody has a different style of vaping. And, for me, the Loop is far from a "flavor" rda. The 2nd build I ever put in it, I knew that the coils should be as low/close to the "pyramid" as possible-Not like the reviewers were placing them or like the manual suggested. It improved the flavor, but, far from a flavor rda. I guess everyone just has different tastes, different expectations from their rda experience. Like the Drop. Everybody raves about it, to me, its just a little better than average. To each their own, I guess👍

Thanks for the tip on Zion and IRS :-)

You should try and report back:-)

If this was 200 years ago it would certainly have been science, but today you have to have 100% control on all the metrics and everey thinkable source of error. So by todays standards I'm just indicating probable effects:-)

I did notice one thing in your video I wondered about. You showed the airflow currents around the pentagon but (maybe I missed it) I didn't see you factor in how the airflow under the coils actually directs some of that at the coil I stead of just along the pentagon? I trust your experiments and demonstrations, But those do seem like they would channel the air from that bottom up to the coil no?

@@noxelohim No :-) To intersect the airflow in any effective way, the coils need to be place so low that they touch the deck. I tried it, but it did not work. The only thing hitting the coils will be very faint puffs of turbulence. Single coil over the pentagon is the only way to get direct hit from effective flow of air.