What Makes A Boutique Guitar Builder Great?

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Casino Guitars

Casino Guitars

2 жыл бұрын

Baxter and Jonathan discuss how it takes more than just the builder to make a brand great. From Boutique to Big Brands - All the pieces of the puzzle have to fit together nicely.

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@dangolguitartech
@dangolguitartech 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning, everybody… Hope y’all have a great day!🤠
@newgunguy4176
@newgunguy4176 2 жыл бұрын
Flawless QC. Imo.
@carlmcgregor2707
@carlmcgregor2707 2 жыл бұрын
I so love watching 'The Tangent Show'. Always great videos. Whether the title has anything to do with what they talk about is a toss up. I never miss a show.
@tedruybalid2262
@tedruybalid2262 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! Love that Gretsch Rancher on the wall; I used to have one back in the 90s that was rebuilt and refinished into a great playing and sounding guitar. Wish I still had it!
@richelsen
@richelsen 2 жыл бұрын
You two are my favorite people
@richardlynch5632
@richardlynch5632 2 жыл бұрын
C.P. Thornton makes phenomenal guitars in build, feel and tones. AMAZES me some folks never played his pieces.
@jaorte10
@jaorte10 2 жыл бұрын
As a hobbyist guitar builder myself. I can say that access to the best tools is #1. #2 is good materials. #3 skill to use #1.
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. It's the opposite for me.
@mitchmatthews6713
@mitchmatthews6713 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy with my Martin, thanks.
@homegrownson
@homegrownson 2 жыл бұрын
Communication, Craftsmanship and Quality of everything from parts to people all Supported by World Class Customer Service
@joerob3081
@joerob3081 2 жыл бұрын
I hope to, soon, make a trip to your store.
@BlueberryStinkFinger62
@BlueberryStinkFinger62 2 жыл бұрын
2021 Epiphone Custom Koa Les Paul baby the best!
@bluzzjazz
@bluzzjazz 2 жыл бұрын
Closest thing I have to boutique is my Novo Serus J. It’s phenomenal and worth every dollar I paid for it.
@BAMozzy69
@BAMozzy69 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I am concerned, Boutique refers to the 'size' of the company NOT the quality of the workmanship. What makes a 'Great' guitar is the training and QC steps they put in place. The Stricter the QC, the, more consistent the end product is. Its that 'willingness' to put time into ensuring the instrument is at the required Quality to move on to the 'next' stage of the build - take time on the 'small' things, don't rush and be 'proud' of your work - whether you are part of a big team or individual.
@richsaltz5738
@richsaltz5738 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite guitar was built by Terry C McInturff. Terry is a North Carolina based luthier and makes some of the best instruments out there. When I got my McInturff Glory I sold my PRS the next day. Check him out.
@0burrus
@0burrus Жыл бұрын
Attention to detail
@brettgl21
@brettgl21 2 жыл бұрын
Im with Derrick on the jam bands. Worst show opener for me was Moe opening for Gov't Mule. Moe played the same song for what seemed like 13 weeks. It was brutal! LOL
@csnide6702
@csnide6702 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a big boutique guitar guy-- but really like boutique amps....!
@cheewaiyuen4237
@cheewaiyuen4237 2 жыл бұрын
Come for talks, stay for the beard
@landonbailey
@landonbailey 2 жыл бұрын
Have you guys checked out Godin guitars?
@stephenprosser6787
@stephenprosser6787 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to play a masterbuilt guitar sometime. Just to see if there is some kind of mojo there.
@davidepaolo276
@davidepaolo276 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Is there a Casino Guitars college bracket I could join!? 😄🤘🏼 Thanks for the great content - Hope to visit the shop on my next trip down south ✌🏼
@danielphillipsmusic9145
@danielphillipsmusic9145 2 жыл бұрын
That Rancher is calling me… 😵‍💫
@markloveridge3345
@markloveridge3345 2 жыл бұрын
I love your saying take us home johnny i actually repeat it as you say it sad I now, shit I need to get out more 😂😂
@cemylgn1363
@cemylgn1363 2 жыл бұрын
It's the little things I guess.. not every builder has the same attention to extreme details :) the wind cries detail
@thomasboylan3372
@thomasboylan3372 2 жыл бұрын
Remember the hopper commercials?
@amslu
@amslu 2 жыл бұрын
Did you work with Fidelity Guitars?
@mrstanto
@mrstanto 2 жыл бұрын
What can you tell us about a Fender team built guitar? I just got a team built RW tele. GC claimed it was worked on by no more than three people. What do you know about that?
@JayGoreGuitar
@JayGoreGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
James Tyler Guitars. That is all.
@stewartcarson6552
@stewartcarson6552 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Kithara guitars in Northern Ireland!! I dare ya!! Lol
@bobflair
@bobflair 2 жыл бұрын
Sukop basses are the greatest thing since sliced bread
@michaeljoyce3286
@michaeljoyce3286 2 жыл бұрын
I lean towards boutique builder the mom and pop Guitar builder. There’s something about a story getting connect with the builder the quality of a guitar and knowing your moneys going to something to me, it’s more than a Guitar it’s it’s got a story from it start it’s not picked off a rack and some store, please don’t get me wrong I find some really nice Guitars out there I just like that local builder’s I also feel you get a better guitar for the quality of money
@mannymejia7972
@mannymejia7972 2 жыл бұрын
I still have an AOL account.
@naturebox83
@naturebox83 2 жыл бұрын
Have you guys had any experience with k-line, Kauer or lsl?
@jw112mail
@jw112mail 2 жыл бұрын
K-Line's stuff is solid. I've played 4 or 5
@naturebox83
@naturebox83 2 жыл бұрын
@@jw112mail I own a couple and they are incredible. Seems weird other well known boutique builders don’t come up on the channel
@MashaT22
@MashaT22 2 жыл бұрын
Topic suggestion: can you guys talk about how to turn any 25.5” guitar into a barritone? I’ve heard it can be done but I never heard any specifics about how to achieve it. Does one style guitar body work better than others? What kind of strings, setup, hard tail or not, etc.? And what the difference between converting a 25.5” vs buying an actual baritone? Would they sound different, play different, etc.? Thanks guys!
@jw112mail
@jw112mail 2 жыл бұрын
They are not guitar makers, they are a guitar shop. They also do not sell baritone conversions. Search "baritone conversions" for onfo on this topic
@jeremiahallender1919
@jeremiahallender1919 2 жыл бұрын
Love ya Baxter!and I’ve loved other duke fans too !!!part of growing up in North Carolina ,but it still hurts a lil to hear ya say it out loud 😢…but if Carolina meets duke in acc tournament Please don’t watch 😂🤣😎✌️❤️🎸🏀go heels!(grateful dead did some good shows in Cameron! Breaks my heart lil 😜to see Bobby wearing a duke shirt in pictures back then.)….my mom took us to the dean dome ,to see James Taylor for our first concert 🎵 …not quite the same energy!..which school has produced more rock an rollers????lets have a rock off😂🤣😇🎸🎵🎸❤️,love you guys😁(hope ya don’t take my name out the hat for this)😫
@CasinoGuitars
@CasinoGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you:) I try to keep that side of me quiet:)
@jeremiahallender1919
@jeremiahallender1919 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasinoGuitars 😂❤️
@angelg8445
@angelg8445 2 жыл бұрын
Love y'all but was very happy to see UNC win! I'm a life long Heel fan.
@jeremiahallender1919
@jeremiahallender1919 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelg8445 go heels!! 😎
@happyads9439
@happyads9439 2 жыл бұрын
Fender masterbuilt guitars are partscasters also, built by team fender,, set necks like les pauls are a completely different beast, much more measurements needed, carved tops, neck angle, Gluing in?? fenders are flat and easy. My bolt on strats and teles are awesome and custom painted, i compare them with fender customshop yet dont charge boutique prices £1350.00 any colour, maple or rosewood - lightweight Ash or Alder,, what else do you need?? 🤷
@richardgarcia406
@richardgarcia406 2 жыл бұрын
Not a single mention of John Suhr?
@jaybe813
@jaybe813 2 жыл бұрын
You cool cats probably know this already, but the entire original Private Stock team from PRS works at Knaggs Guitars, with Joe. So between those 4-5 guys, you have well over hundred years of experience building the best guitars in the world, so of course Joe starts out immediately building some of the best guitars in the world. It’s for sure time and talent, but it also has to be wisdom, knowledge and passion-to make your own mark in the MI world, but do so with a level of excellence that only people with that kind of past and pedigree can produce.
@tysoncloster1074
@tysoncloster1074 2 жыл бұрын
Been a while since you’ve dropped a highlander reference. Y’all ok?
@tevieray123
@tevieray123 2 жыл бұрын
just ask Paul
@jameswhite1450
@jameswhite1450 2 жыл бұрын
I never look for Boutique guitars. If I want a Gibson or a Fender why would I buy a boutique copy? It makes no sense to me. If it was a different guitar body and their own thing then maybe but a lot just seem to be Les Paul, ES-335, Strat or Tele copies. Meh
@angelg8445
@angelg8445 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair there is a difference w/the voicing that ppl like Bourgeois does w/their acoustics. Ive got a Custom shop Martin and its ab as close to 'boutique' as one can get w/o spending 8-10k.
@podfuk
@podfuk 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, boutique acoustic guitars and archtop electric guitars can surpasses factory made ones in quality by margin, but there is not much space left for eletric guitar butique builders imho.
@jameswhite1450
@jameswhite1450 2 жыл бұрын
@@podfuk I share that opinion man.
@robertwillett4122
@robertwillett4122 2 жыл бұрын
Is the next level up is trying to match the guitar with the amp. to get your magic tone, instead of chasing that great guitar you still have to play it thru something. The amp is very underrated compared to the guitar itself. Just my very humble opinion. Have a great day, stay safe and remember, Putin sucks.
@thombat999
@thombat999 2 жыл бұрын
Who won the Polar Ice?
@rstuartcpa
@rstuartcpa 2 жыл бұрын
T&T will never be a Tanqueray & Tonic again.
@juniorg296
@juniorg296 2 жыл бұрын
Two days in a row missed opportunities to talk about Dan Erlewine!! Come on fellas! Jerry’s guitars, Albert King’s guitars…. he may as well be a boutique builder of unobtanium, but one of the best to ever do it!! PS Bax, love that golf pullover! (It’s a cardigan but thanks for noticing)
@NoCoverCharge
@NoCoverCharge 2 жыл бұрын
One that actually delivers your guitar …. I won’t say who but I placed an order with a builder put down a $1000 deposit on a $3800 guitar was told 6 months well a year and a half later still no guitar and he finally he sent my deposit back at least and said he couldn’t get it done … which sucks cause I wasted a year and a half that I could have ordered from some where else and maybe would have my guitar by now….
@juniorg296
@juniorg296 2 жыл бұрын
That is certainly a huge risk with boutique instrument companies, and certainly not limited to guitars (or pedals…looking at that 5 year waiting list might as well be “when I get to it” Analogman). I’m beta testing a new drum machine that was intended to be released to the public in late 2019. Hit a few snags in the firmware which delayed just enough for covid to take over the supply chain and we only just finished getting all the pre-orders out…like a month ago….for a product “promised” almost 3 years earlier. Smaller companies have larger risks, they have to be incredibly on top of things like basic parts inventory, and in guitars wood inventory…then take into account that many boutique builders WILL NOT even start building a guitar if they don’t feel confident they have the materials to make it to the best of their ability. I’m sorry you had to go through that, but that’s kinda the dice roll that comes with the territory for really really small companies.
@darthdurf9611
@darthdurf9611 2 жыл бұрын
LOL my wife has the same AOL email, since they started....still uses it.....makes me laugh
@MashaT22
@MashaT22 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I’ve had the same AOL account since high school - probably since ‘96 or ‘97! Don’t knock it! Gmail can’t even do a folder right - technically they don’t even do the folder thing. Like who needs stupid tags?! AOL will live on forever!!
@darthdurf9611
@darthdurf9611 2 жыл бұрын
not knocking it LOL, just find it funny....I remember all the free disc's, having to listen to dial up....here what's really funny...late 80's, my buddy got a modem for his commodore 128....took days to d/l a game with 2 screens, like donky kong....Kong.... back then he said this is the future, I said GTFO, no way....and then he moved to Cali a few years before the beginning of the legal pot craze....he said this will happen, again I said GTFO....he was right on both....AOL, was the future too.....brings a smile to my face everytime I think of it....so no im not knocking it LOL
@darthdurf9611
@darthdurf9611 2 жыл бұрын
BTW, my buddy is a millionaire now, I couldn't be prouder of his success
@youKnowWho3311
@youKnowWho3311 2 жыл бұрын
I am seeing comments that boutique builders should be ignored. I can somewhat agree relative to resale if you are at a certain income bracket; however, once money isn't an issue anymore, you tend to want something a little different and higher quality than what everyone else has from a rack. To ignore boutique builders because they don't have better skill is an ignorant position if you understand math. Some of the best restaurants you will ever walk into are not in any way a chain. These are restaurants where the chef is the owner. Same as boutiques. An example would be Knaggs. Joe was the previous manager of Private Stock at PRS. His guitars are incredible. If Paul Miles Left PRS, he would be in the same boat (able to write his own checks $$$$$). Once you are no longer worried about resale and you want something different than the big 3-4, then you will pay up for superior craftsmanship. Oh, and there is no competition for PRS's reliability..... I have been a PRS owner/player since 1999. I have NEVER purchased one from a store, and I have never owned anything other than a core model or better.
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 2 жыл бұрын
Then you would know that HAMER. Of Chicago, was what PRS got his award winning inspiration from. Want a true boutique when it was really done by a wizard? Buy original Hamer. They shame PRS in every way. PS- Whale Blue Custom 24 10 top owner. Sold. It did not do what the HAMER could do, and was clearly it's minor.
@youKnowWho3311
@youKnowWho3311 2 жыл бұрын
@@caiusmadison2996 Yes, I remember the Hamer stuff. I really liked their guitars as well.
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 2 жыл бұрын
TIVO is still is a thing. It is also vastly superior to any DVR, and is basically a live Blue Ray of sorts, with the ability to tie a mountain of information to anything you watch, down to the actors, where they came from, what they do now... basically, it's evolved itself further than its initial use to a State the other guys should think about, and will, when TIVO fails entirely due to terrible marketing.
@limpindug
@limpindug 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately dieing seems to be a thing. In music industry. 🥃👍Respect.
@wierdlygruesome
@wierdlygruesome 2 жыл бұрын
Remember the great classic guitars were built by house wives who had no guitar making skills so if you think about it a 400 dollar production guitar with good sounding pickups will be a great ax.
@Arthagnou
@Arthagnou 2 жыл бұрын
Heritage guitars maybe the oldest of these boutique
@philipbrister
@philipbrister 2 жыл бұрын
Answer: communication, and standing by their product. Most are terrible at both of these.
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Did not know that.
@joshdickens8281
@joshdickens8281 2 жыл бұрын
I will never relinquish my aol e-mail account!!
@cautiousoptimist1926
@cautiousoptimist1926 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that the builders you work with are wonderful. But, there are hundreds if not thousands across the US, and then you have to tip your hat to all those in the UK, Europe, Asia, South America and Africa. Often, one is favored over another simply because they are the flavor of the month; hype and marketing.
@RyanOManchester
@RyanOManchester 2 жыл бұрын
I'd 100% agree. By far the best guitar I have ever played was made by a luthier local to my state that I've never seen advertised through any channel/shop/etc. I'm sure that all of these boutique builders you see online are great but it seems marketing and internet hype are the most important to many people.
@cautiousoptimist1926
@cautiousoptimist1926 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanOManchester An acquaintance purchased a Bilt guitar when they were getting lots of attention. Now, every KZfaqr seems to be playing a Novo and Bilt's are an afterthought. Meanwhile, the builder of Koll guitars who is about 80 miles from my home, and was the flavor of the month 20 to 30 years ago, is still building similar instruments at comparable prices but I haven't heard his name mentioned by anyone locally or in media for a very long time.
@phillippitts6294
@phillippitts6294 2 жыл бұрын
If I was a lot better player , I’d consider a master built. But , the law of diminishing returns is definitely at play here . Master built guitars should be in the hands of Master players . Not because you can afford it . Yes , I know I’m in the minority! ☠️☠️☠️🖖🏼
@juniorg296
@juniorg296 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t say that about yourself man! Anyone who can appreciate the craftsmanship and functional art of a master built guitar, and has the means, should do it! Most master guitar players rarely play “master built guitars” anyway, they found what worked for them and created with it. Look at Jared James Nichols for example…he now plays his Epiphone signature on stage over any of his vintage guitars (makes sense when touring THAT much)…but tell me he couldn’t have a made to measure Gibson (likely free of charge) to play everywhere he goes. Sure it’s somewhat marketing around his signature Epi, but point is he uses it to the same effect as his 60s LPC. I know non-guitar players who have custom shop fenders and MTM Gibsons…they just appreciate the craftsmanship, which is an art in itself. I’m a guitar player of 15+ years and would LOVE a master built..do I need one? Absolutely not…will I ever? Absolutely not. Do I still want one? Absolutely, and when I have the means that’s exactly what I’m gonna do.
@shane1472
@shane1472 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's the worse thing I've ever heard Baxter say. A duke fan that's so disappointing
@jeremiahallender1919
@jeremiahallender1919 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂 I just told him that too 😢
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 2 жыл бұрын
You only need investigate how far they actually manufacture their guitars, or if they order blanks and parts from common places, they are not truly Boutique to me, like NASH. That's not true boutique, it's half the work done before he make a single change... many are like this in reality.
@chrisboule970
@chrisboule970 2 жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying. I have 2 Nash guitars, a strat and a LP, and they really do kind of straddle that line. But the parts they source are very good, and the guitars are extremely well constructed and set up. Light relic on both, otherwise can get kind of over the top. I've rarely adjusted anything on them in 10 years because they're so well made. And they don't generally command the same kind of "custom shop" prices.
@gratefulfistpumpinsweeney
@gratefulfistpumpinsweeney 2 жыл бұрын
Just clicked on this to say ... GIVE IT UP ON THE HIGH END SHIT ! WE ARE NOT RICH ! WE ARE NORMAL , PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK ROCKERS!
@potatosdont-surf6982
@potatosdont-surf6982 2 жыл бұрын
Humans. Humans are the Alpha and the Omega. We are Gods. We are Demons. Will we figure it out? In the meantime remember, Anyone can play Guitar.
@mitchellstrauss5117
@mitchellstrauss5117 2 жыл бұрын
rambling today... lacking detail... this subject may be better focused on acoustic guitar builders and you reveal you're a dook fan... really bad form... tar heel bred, tar heel dead!
@jeremiahallender1919
@jeremiahallender1919 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂 go heels!
@michaelblaney4461
@michaelblaney4461 2 жыл бұрын
When you in a Cult it's hard to see that you are in a Cult . Boutique instruments are somewhat of a Cult.
@wierdlygruesome
@wierdlygruesome 2 жыл бұрын
Come on really how hard is it to make an electric guitar body it’s fairly low level wood working skills . Neck it takes more Precision that can be done with enough patients but really guys anybody with a third grade woodworking skill can build An electric guitar. An acoustic guitar is a little different they actually need some skill but it’s still not very hard to pay thousands of dollars for someone to put together a guitar because they build some guitar for some rockstar. I’m not doing it.Ill get the parts and have the same or better quality guitar than some master builder.
@bradswanson6788
@bradswanson6788 2 жыл бұрын
A Duke fan?!? (clicks unsubscribe)
@jeremiahallender1919
@jeremiahallender1919 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂 go heels!
@oblate777
@oblate777 2 жыл бұрын
Jam bands are really really boring. "Musician's music" sucks. Meanwhile, back at the ranch....
@NoCoverCharge
@NoCoverCharge 2 жыл бұрын
Not if you take mushrooms … then it’s the best music in the world …
@oblate777
@oblate777 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoCoverCharge There's a lot of psychedelic music outside the jam band arena. Some of it is like jam band music, but better. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m8qJnduSscrYZYk.html
@titanuranus
@titanuranus 2 жыл бұрын
You should hunt down a band called "moe." (yes, it's all lower case and a period at the end) and check out a song called "Plane Crash", then get back to us about this "boring" thing.
@oblate777
@oblate777 2 жыл бұрын
@@titanuranus as a fully operational music geek, I know moe. and I know about the period. I just think jam bands are a waste of time, and the only Dead "jam" show I need is Live/Dead though Reckoning is great for what it is.
@oblate777
@oblate777 2 жыл бұрын
Also: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbGmmrNpstKpdXk.html
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