I shoot exactly the same way and have for 20+ years. Its quick and effective , and to me feels more natural. Great video.

This is crazy, I shoot almost exactly like you do. It is how I started and it just always felt natural to me. I started shooting probably around 2016ish and took about a 3 year break after being frustrated/overwhelmed by all the shooting "techniques" out there because I thought I was shooting the wrong way compared to everyone else. Tried 3 under, standing straight, working on form/back tension, release and everything else and just got so overwhelmed it was not fun and I quit. I started shooting again last year and am sticking with the way I started, split finger, leant over, heavily canted bow(mainly because I wear glasses and the angle helps avoid string contact with them), look where you want to hit. Don't care because it works for me and I am having fun lol. So glad I found your channel, love your videos man! 👍

In a few more days on October 1, I will start my 53rd year shooting the SAME traditional bow, a Bear Kodiak Magnum. I can't say Fred Bear taught me personally but Fred was at the top of his form in the 60's so I and all my bow hunting buddies studied everything he did and committed it to memory. We did our best to mimic Fred Bear's every move. I highly recommend watching film of all the great traditional archers of that day and watch how they aim and shoot. You will see a lot of canting of the bows, crouching, push-pull draw techniques, etc. For a bow hunter, a slight crouch and bend over at the waist is an essential component of good form, especially when shooting from an elevated stand. It helps get the angle of your line of sight and the arrow lined up on the target faster and it also reduces the line of sight angle from what it would be if you shot standing full upright. The smaller the angle of the line of sight relative to the target, the more of a "straight line" you have between your vision, the arrow, and the point you want to hit on the target. Push-pull drawing of the bow should become an instinctive part of every traditional archer's technique. My Kodiak Magnum is a very short 52" length bow with a 50 pound pull. It takes a lot of muscle force to draw and hold my bow. But I am still doing it with ease at 67 years old and with congestive heart failure! Push-pull draw is part of the secret. Pushing with my left arm while pulling back with my right hand allows two sets of muscles to divide the work load and it also gets the bow to full draw faster. Time needed to draw and shoot can be critical for some shots. Last, but not least, is canting the bow. I offer your viewers an invitation to watch a short practice session shooting video on my channel. Because I cant my bow about as heavily as you do, I absolutely DO NOT wear any arm guard protection. I don't need it. The canting of the bow, along with proper shooting form, keeps my arm completely away from the string. In my practice video you will see me shooting my bow in a long sleeve shirt with the sleeves rolled up loosely. I don't even catch the loose sleeve in my bow! I think I quit wearing an arm guard about 30 or more years ago. That gives me more freedom of movement and it also instills complete confidence in knowing I am not going to get string slapped. The more upright you stand and hold a bow when shooting, the more likely you are to get string slapped and to need an arm guard. Excellent info in your video! I hope every new traditional archer watches it. Thanks for sharing.

Good stuff. We tend to complicate thing simply because it works for other people and it's supposed to be the " right" way. Find what works and master your style. I shoot the same way and have 40 years. Near 400 big game animals taken. Works for me.

Love this video. I’m short and a lefty. This video and the one on gripping of a Hill style bow were really helpful. Keep it up and thank you.

Dont you know that it’s more important how you look these days? 😁 good points! I really like it!

Thanks for sharing this!! I am a short guy and trying to make a long bow work. This is very helpful. I have some work to do. Gonna definitely give this method a try.

Real world application. I love your videos.

This reminds me of the style Fred Asbell describes in his book. I’m new at this and his method, like yours, seems to make lots of sense for a dense cover close range hunter. Great content!!

Great video your teaching a lost art watching you now reminds me of watching Fred Bear videos

Great video - thank you - most practical 👍

Awsome subject thanks so much mister Sam!!!My archery instructor always told me that the strait way its called "olimpic" draw.... cool tan eheheh big big hug

Thank you so much. Completely agree. I call it Natural Native Style Shooting. Love your Podcast too Sir.🇺🇸🎯🎯🎯

Thanks for that explanation. I get my bow Monday and will practice this way because I'm going to learn to hunt not target shoot.

This makes a lot of sense.

Awesome video! I’ve seen many traditional archers cant their bow so I assumed it was a normal practice. As long as it works for you, that’s what matters the most!

great explanation jason thanks

Appreciate the explanation! That’s how you master something.

The most comfortable way to shoot for a hunter. I use the same form. Great video.

Really enjoy your videos. I find them very informative. I'm interested in learning more about shooting the long bow especiallya iming the long bow. I've been shooting center shot bows and I'm finding shooting the long bow kind of difficult. Any ideas?

Canting is the only way you could clear your limbs from hitting objects , it works for me , when I practice out of my tree stand I can't and usually hit my spots.Great video !

Great video and explained well. I shoot very much the same way keeping the bottom limb of the bow away from the stand. I practice alot sitting on the ground you never know when a shot will present itself. I rarely see traditional archers shoot sitting or from one knee . Canting a bow just seems natural.

Nice info, i'm going to practice this style tomorrow, too see if for me.

My trad teacher micheal grandstaff taught me to cant the bow as soon as i started shooting. And now i fully understand exactly why. Awesome video keep'em comin. Question when your target practicing do you shoot one arrow then retrieve it or shoot mulitple. Maybe next video?

Excellent tip . I can’t my longbow also . It opens up the sight pictures for me . What do is for T or crossed t with black electrical tape about 12 inches bothering ways . I shoot a group shooting horizontally & vertically shooting arrows in the T or cross . You will actually see a more open sight picture. 👍

The people who shoot with a vertical bow are the recent compound converts. It may be "old school", but it is by far the best method for hunting. I've been shooting a longbow/recurve for over 25 years. The only people that shot vertically were the field archery crowd. The hunters shot canted. Great job on the videos.

The majority of the trad bow shooters I know shoot that way. If one of my students wants to shoot Olympic Recurve I teach them to shoot with full back tension with a vertical bow, and the same for compound shooters with sights. For recurves and longbows with no sights it's a crouch and cant approach. People never believe me when I tell them that I rarely shoot past 20 yards at deer. The doe I got this morning was 10 yards out. I'm still using training wheels, but I really wish I had taken the recurve this morning.

Great video, I shoot the same way you do, no problems with hitting my targets.

You are shooting the way Fred Asbell teaches.

I've always shot traditional with the same cant. I would also point out that the cant puts the arrows longitudinal axis in perfect vertical alignment with the eye, eliminating left/ right misalignment caused by upright shooting.

AMEN Brother! I am the same way all I care about is hunting, I only shoot realistic targets never at dots , always 20 and in. I have tried to make myself shoot straight up and down to get maximum draw length, but it just does not feel natural and I come back to my crouched cant. I think maybe it feels natural because you seem to be in more of a predictor position with your body, I don't know maybe not, just know to me it feels right.

Very well said

When I am using a Flatbow Longbow I tend to cant it more at a 35 to 45 degree angle due to my size just in the straight stand and same for when using recurves in odd stances. I also know I have to use the smaller flatbows that are 60-64 inches as opposed to the true sizes of 64 inches plus or better yet actual flatbows that are true longbows at 66 inches to often as long as 72 inches.

Great video! Do you plan to do more deer hunting vlogs this season? I enjoyed watching your pig hunting vlogs from earlier this year.

Not long subscribed but really enjoying your videos. Just curious if you still get grief for your bow cant and stance? I have been to trad competitive shoots where a straight shots on target is just not happening bow cant and hunched over is common place in traditional archery might be old school but it still works

Any tips for not torquing the string when shooting with such a cant. I also shoot similar sometimes i see perfect arrow flight other times i see funny flight and hit left. I suspect is because I torque the string. I dont grip the bow hard so I dont think that's it

Keep shooting straight brother

What longbow is it you have there sir? I really like it!

You mentioned the "conventional" "mainstream" way to shoot upright, but there are lots of very successful styles of archery throughout history, styles honed for survival. You have clearly honed your style to suit your needs. I have found this breakdown of the "asiatic" draw to be very informative as well as its overview of various cultures' archery styles: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9x3dLxzss7Ge40.html I guess my point is, your style isn't "bad", nor is it entirely unique. Arguably most archery cultures have a lean in their draw. I see many elements of your style in various archery styles that have been described to me, and I am so excited to see someone hone their own style and adding to whole archery culture.

I loved this video, funny story, I’ve been shooting for a year straight. Got into it from this channel actually and will never go back! So when I saw you shot, I immediately thought that’s not weird, that’s how you should shoot if your a hunter, so I abandoned trying to look like a goofy perfectly stances vertical target shooter and start experimenting more, well guess what, my shooting improved the second I got rid of all the “supposed” to do “rules”, I now fully embrace that there are no rules in archery. Not weird at all! I found that a decent cant just lined everything up much better for me! I took a bear and deer this year with my longbow, I’m completely addicted. Thanks again friend! I’ve literally gone back and watched every video you have made.

John Shultz (video on youtube) who learned from Howard Hill stresses the importance of canting the bow so as to not shoot high when shooting down from an elevated position, e.g., tree stand.

Jason I love this because it’s so damn practical! As a hunter I feel like you, a quick humane kill should be our primary concern.

i shoot 3d l. i never shoot two targets at the same distance 10-80m. at under 10m you can shoot an arrow out your ass if you practice enough. respect to your abilities

Jason. Don’t sweat all that. I to slightly can’t the bow. Not as much but slightly. I am a form shooter but I also practice bending at the waist until the shot opens up. The idea is bow hunting. That isn’t a 3D game when your in the woods.

Same way I grew up shooting

Hey Jason been shooting a bow for 50 year love shooting traditional bows the archer should always shoot there bow that’s best for them everyone is an individual so if your making a good ethical shoot then that’s the way u should shoot to many people think there way is right every way is right if it works for u

These form police are nuts. Hill, John, even Bear all shot split, canted and fast. Lay off it people! I quit going to the archery range because of these nutty people. Good stuff Jason.

do you have a hunting arrow making video? I Im a new 20 year old beginner bow hunter. I bought the single bevel broad heads and hickory shafts and fletches.

Makes sense

Dont concern yourself man! I shoot almost exactly the same as you and my accuracy is wer it should be and I have no trouble with arrow flight . My buddy who has seen me set up a shot on an animal calls it the " stick stance" been deadly for 20 years

I got accused of short drawing last time I posted something in the Trad Archery facebook groups. I have a single tight anchor to the corner of my mouth that has worked well for me over the years. Not to mention when I practice Chinese archery which is a separate style of shooting. All these "experts" are so quick to call something weird because they're not educated about different styles and purposes of archery. And we wonder why some young archers get so dissuaded from being involved in the sport

The most annoying thing? Archery 'experts'. There is many ways to get to Rome. When people stress about things like 'back tension', 'anchoring', etc etc. All might be fine for Olympic matters of millimeters, but on the hunt? Totally different story.

Fred Asbell was no Howard Hill.

Love this. This is classic Fred Asbell style. Even us tall guys can do this. I’m 6’5” and shoot 68-72” NM bows with this style. Thanks for the video!

How many pounds of draw weight? What is your spine of arrows? Carbon arrows? Grains of broadheads? Just curious, thanks

This is how Ive always shot my bow. I am very acurate and have killed large game, small came and even birds. Lets face it Ishi shot his bow holding it horizontal to the ground. He was very acurate with it and killed game. Ive always believed if its comfortable for you then you'll stick with it. Good info in your video thanks for sharing.

Pretty much how Fred Asbell taught instinctive shooting.

Your method is not weird Sir . I adjust position as the shot calls for . Weird is Me swapping from split finger to 3 under on the same bow depending on range . I also am a fast draw Snap shooter as I only tradbow hunt and game animals don't stay still very often .

I don’t think your style is weird, I do pretty much exactly the same & have done for 30+ yrs. I have never used a tree stand though.

That’s how I shoot. That’s how it’s done to be your strongest. Athletic stance isn’t just for baseball.

Looks like your getting in better shape just like you said you would. Good on you Jason

Great info. I agree shooting like it’s the Hunger Games doesn’t work in the woods.

Nothing wrong with old school lm old school shoot my longbow basically just like you if most things in our country would go back to old school we would be much better off thanks for what you do

Yep, crouch and heavy cant. Only way I've ever shot.

Truth is distance shooting is vertical because of the distance , hunters and warriors shoot canted , Fred Bear, Ben Pearson , Howard Hill, Bryan Ferguson , Joel Turner , Etc....... stop criticizing something you don’t understand , especially is vertically challenged people who in truth represent most of history

Looks like you shoot normal to me.

There is no right or wrong just consestsy

That's BS Their is no wrong or right not really everyone has got to find what works for them and stick with it! I see nothing wrong with your style of shooting it works for you, I shoot three under I have all my life and I'm 61 it just feels normal to me, I tried spit but don't shoot that way well, I don't aim the arrow per say but point the arrow I touch the back corner of my mouth with my index finger but my true anchor is I hook my first knuckle into the back of my jawbone the hallow spot below the ear and I have shot this way since I was a kid! I f isn't broke don't fix it!

If you hit bulleye who give shit lol

Just bring the meat home

Great advice swing draw & short draw. Target Panic waiting to happen. Why you guys still preach this crap is beyond me!