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@foch3 2 күн бұрын
Does the Yamaha work for games like vanilla Doom in this configuration?
@O_mores 2 күн бұрын
If vanilla Doom means the original DOS release by iD Software, most likely won't work. If you want to get DOS sound on modern hardware you should try SBEMU: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g6-Plrqj3J3dj2w.html However, DOOM '95 works 100% fine with sound on this configuration.
@foch3 2 күн бұрын
@@O_mores That's what I figured. I'm using a Sound Blaster Live on a P55 chipset and getting SB16 / Midi sound in Vanilla Doom and Duke3d in a 98SE DOS environment. Is that not possible on more modern hardware? And do you know when that stopped being possible?
@O_mores 2 күн бұрын
PCI sound cards are relying on some PCI to ISA emulation done at chipset level to achieve Direct Memory Access (DMA) which is required to get sound in DOS. Gradually this kind of hardware support was terminated, I think Intel 865 released in 2003 is the last chipset where you can plug a PCI card and get sound in DOS games without any issues. There are also sound cards like Aureal Vortex which are using some very optimized PCI drivers and they still can work in pure DOS with some games even on modern hardware. I tested an Aureal 8820 on a i7-4790 and it worked in pure DOS with games like NQ Rally, Duke, Mortal Kombat IV, Screamer... (mostly newer DOS games) However many PCI sound cards do have good Windows 9x drivers with legacy support and they work with many DOS games while you are running them in Windows.
@foch3 Күн бұрын
@@O_mores Sounds like I need to add an Aureal Vortex to my collection. Have you ever been able to get DOS sound emulation to work within Windows 98SE on any AMD platforms?
@O_mores Күн бұрын
@@foch3 I did try the same Aureal card on some AM3 motherboard but it didn't work. Don't forget you can get sound in DOS through LPT port: dosdays.co.uk/topics/parallel_port_soundcards_review_pt1.php
@pvc988 7 күн бұрын
Programmable graphics chip before shaders. With just a little bit more performance it could become a real competitor to fixed pipeline chips. I wonder if it would be possible to have more than one DSP on single card and how the performance would scale.
@O_mores 7 күн бұрын
There are some articles about Mpact 2 chip as early as November 1996 - but the card was on the market in 1998, it was too late and this basically killed the entire company. If drivers would have been ready in late 1996 - it think this card could have been a good competitor for 3dfx Voodoo Rush which was 30% faster but it had compatibility problems with many games and no MPEG2 decoding.
@TheDiskMaster 7 күн бұрын
Wow, an Mpact! Lovely card, I wish I could find one. They never show up for sale, I'm lucky to have my Permedia 2.
@O_mores 7 күн бұрын
I got this Mpact card by chance. I found it on slot A Athlon K7 850Mhz PC. Didn't knew it was an Mpact, but the digital audio out made me curios enough to extract the card for a further examination...
@brandonlehman7440 7 күн бұрын
Really fascinating! I never really understood all of the intricacies of graphics cards, and just how much they've changed over the years!
@O_mores 7 күн бұрын
When this card was on sale in 1998 there were so many options: S3, Cirrus Logic, SiS, Trident, Permedia, Number 9 etc. And of course 3dfx, ATI, Matrox and nVidia.
@laz7354 7 күн бұрын
FORMAT C: /Q please !!!
@O_mores 7 күн бұрын
On an SSD it's pretty quick without /Q. :)
@max_MXX 8 күн бұрын
Nice! Never heard of this card or company. Looks like it was way better than S3 or Cirrus Logic default video cards that came with new computers sold in 1997/1998. I actually played MDK on a AMD K5 PR200 (133Mhz) + S3 Virge GX 2MB.
@monad_tcp 8 күн бұрын
Software defined custom pipeline, card was ahead of its time.
8 күн бұрын
It's Barely better than a SiS 620 :v
@max_MXX 8 күн бұрын
I think SIS 620 it's better but also we are talking about a newer chip launched in 1999 or so.
@explorer9049 5 күн бұрын
SiS 6326 says hi.
5 күн бұрын
@@explorer9049 yup :v/
@Markworth 8 күн бұрын
Like a fever dream, I barely remember this era of hardware. I guess PCs were so weak that you needed additional hardware just to watch a DVD. IIRC, 512x384 performed better than 400x300 on the Permedia 2 due to something with the texture memory. I was using D3D wrappers for a lot of things until OpenGL 2.1 started getting used on eveything...maybe the late 2010s? Scitech GLDirect was worth the cost back in the these days of mega janky hardware.
8 күн бұрын
Yes, back at mid 90s, late 90s you would need a decoder card to play DVDs as a Pentium II at 233 MHz was too weak for that task, however with the Pentium III 500 MHz you would be able to play DVDs by software decoding, with some screen tearing, but also at that time most video cards would start to include dvd acceleration (motion compensation) to help the cpu.
@Nordlicht05 7 күн бұрын
Explains why I remember that early dvd player were pretty expensive for only playing video.
@max_MXX 2 күн бұрын
@@Nordlicht05 Back then I didn't find DVD playback so spectacular. (for the money) I had good Sony flat screen + a Panasonic 6 head VCR and... original VHS tapes were good enough for a few more years.
@Nordlicht05 2 күн бұрын
@@max_MXX honestly. We never owned any dvd player ever. I think the first dvd capable machine was a pc around 2000
@MonamiTech 9 күн бұрын
As of current standards, it will be a chip made by SK Hynix. LG Semicon (Lucky + Gold Star) -> Hyundai Electronics (was in the same group as Hyundai Motor) -> Hynix(“Hy”undai Electro”nix”) -> SK Hynix
@nightyk6 7 күн бұрын
I know it has nothing to do with this, but I got a Goldstar microwave, with display and touch buttons, still going strong. It's from the 80s. Older than myself. I just wanted to share it, no idea as to why. :)
@vladimirvparfenov3935 9 күн бұрын
the way that youve so deftly narrated your troubleshooting process to this absurd mishmash of software and hardware surprisingly helped me connect a lot of distant synapses. i got a great feeling about the other treasure awaiting me on your channel.
@jangelelcangry 10 күн бұрын
Someone should try something similar with SLS or OG Slackware.
@megokuzzmegohanzz8633 10 күн бұрын
Can it run Quake?
@O_mores 7 күн бұрын
Of course. Half Life 2 should run also.
@mrbighands 12 күн бұрын
Sisoft sweet program f.o.s.i
@foch3 12 күн бұрын
It's crazy that my i5 520m and 7800GT are scoring about 100fps faster in Quake3, disabling Hyperthreading made a huge difference. In 3dmark2001 and 2000 I was having issues with black screens between tests and crashing that the Amazing Rloew had another solution for with fixintr.vxd, Everything is completely stable now. Have you ever had to use the Fix interrupts solutions Omores?
@elmariachibrasil 13 күн бұрын
Amazing video, could you provide your disk image? I have ryzen 2200g. I would like to test
@O_mores 12 күн бұрын
Hello. My Windows 3.x won't run unless you have the exact same hardware. It's not plug and play like Windows 95. The good news... is that you don't need any workarounds to make it work, just install it from DOS. Here is how to perform the DOS part: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jqmRfbB9krOcYGw.html and here you can download Windows 3.11 : winworldpc.com/product/windows-3/wfw-311
@bondjovi4595 13 күн бұрын
I would imagine Corel draw runs nearly flawless in Windows 8.
@O_mores 12 күн бұрын
Core Draw 6 made for Windows 95 version should run even in Windows 11.
@victormancini3002 15 күн бұрын
Times have changed. Back in 1989, if you had like 2K worth of software you could draw vector graphics. Today you can do it absolutely for free.
@DubitoErgoSum-pd6cr 16 күн бұрын
Why didn't you ever double-clicked on "Set Up the Microsoft Network" icon? Why? 🤣
@O_mores 16 күн бұрын
Good point!
@classicmgammer 16 күн бұрын
This seems to be very interesting and there might be a way to make a Windows 95 OSR 2.0 or OSR 2.5 iso file with all the patches and drivers for modern hardware up to the Intel Core 14th Gen integrated to make things easier!!!
@O_mores 16 күн бұрын
I guess it's doable, but also you might consider performing a fresh Windows 95 install, do every upgrade necessary and save *Windows + Program Files foleders + root files* into a zip - then you can unload that zip onto a fresh DOS bootable partition. If something goes bad you just replace Windows folder with the one from the zip. I do it all the time. If you make this move on a different hardware, it will work, Windows just have to discover your devices once again. I know that a fresh installation can give you a certain peace of mind... but from my experience using a preinstalled Windows folder is practically the same.
@vardekpetrovic9716 16 күн бұрын
english is a strange language, adobe is prononced adobi but abode is pronounced as abåd. I always wondered if the person that wrote the spelling rules in english was drunk off his gord.
@5roundsrapid263 14 күн бұрын
The word “adobe” is originally Spanish.
@vardekpetrovic9716 14 күн бұрын
@@5roundsrapid263 You get a like, but "The noun adobe originates from the oral form of Arabic al-tob, meaning "the brick," which is derived from the Coptic word tube, meaning "brick." So it is egyptian.
@Kippykip 17 күн бұрын
This was such an interesting project, loved the historic element too. You need more subscribers man
@O_mores 17 күн бұрын
Yes, I do...! However, a video about Windows 2/286 won't create much buzz, so I don't have higher expectations in terms of new subscribers. But I know that some of my subscribers are enjoying this type of content (including myself, of course) so I'll do more videos like this anyway... Thanks for watching.
@Kippykip 17 күн бұрын
@@O_mores Well I really enjoyed it thoroughly while having a hot chocolate, I wish you luck and will see you at your next obscure MS video! :)
@ClubRocker24 17 күн бұрын
8:53 What is that MIDI song ?
@O_mores 17 күн бұрын
It's "The Alibi" by Laxity, I should make a separate video with this tune cuz' I get asked every time.
@dylanrush184 17 күн бұрын
you are an absolute legend omores
@O_mores 17 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@bvazquez90 17 күн бұрын
I've been having great struggles trying to run this on my H410 motherboard.. I do not have one of those bootable VIA PCI cards that you have showcased in this video and others, so I tried to make an installation on a virtual machine, attempt to install UniATA for next boot, clone the vhd onto a physical hard drive and try and boot with the drive ultimately connected to the motherboard. This worked when I made my Windows 2000 installation, but for NT 4.. even after making sure I did everything right as instructed from Alter's guide online, I have had no luck. I even tried installing from MS DOS, with the I386 folder copied onto the drive. Prior to preparing the MS-DOS installation I attempted to slipstream the UniATA driver. A message appears stating it cannot find 'uniata.sys', the very driver I attempted to slipstream, before the installation even begins. Any suggestions on what else I could do, or is it one of those situations where a VIA storage controller card is absolutely needed?
@O_mores 17 күн бұрын
When you get the message with cannot find "xxxxfile.sys" you can manually copy the file into temporary installation folders (those starting with $BT/$LS) and you won't get that message when you restart the installation. With uniata.sys - even if you bypass this message - this does not guarantee that your drive can be initialized. Most likely you will get 0x07B. From my experience, during setup UniATA works only with known controllers. For example UNIATA will recognize my VIA 6421 PCI to SATA because the ID hardware is already embedded in the driver. But won't work with an unknow SATA controller, like the one I have on my H610 motherboard. In this case the solution is to install UniATA while Windows NT4 is installed and running. It worked for me. If you want, I can give my NT4 folder with UniATA already installed.
@bvazquez90 17 күн бұрын
@@O_mores Please do send me the working installation folder, I’ve yet to try what you’ve suggested but your prediction of the outcome does make sense
@O_mores 17 күн бұрын
Here we go - pinzaru.ro/windows9x/nt4_1700.zip - the exact files used in the video
@bvazquez90 17 күн бұрын
@@O_mores Many thanks, and has sp6 already been installed ?
@O_mores 17 күн бұрын
@@bvazquez90 Yes, with SP6. Just let me know if it works for you.
@O_mores 18 күн бұрын
If you are into 16bit Windows operating systems you might want to see Windows 3.11 in action on a modern CPU ->> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLmhrL2px9-sp6s.html
@LotusRom 18 күн бұрын
i follow it step by step, and it didin't work. My harddrive olny got reconized as d: drive, so i couldn't install Me on it. My usb stick got regonized as A: & C: Drive, so i tryed it there but also no lucky. Couldn't copy this Sys C: thingy and himen.sys. Don't know why.😒
@O_mores 18 күн бұрын
Hmm... I'm sure it's doable in the end. Your USB is reported to DOS (by your BIOS) as a hard drive so this is messing things up. That's why you should use the USB stick only to make you hard drive bootable with SYS C: command and then you start the installation directly from the hard drive. Did you delete every partition on your hard drive? Try to watch this video, the same installation procedure but for Windows 98 maybe you missed something: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jqmRfbB9krOcYGw.html
@ages2001 18 күн бұрын
I successfully made work 286 version but 386 version doesn't work correctly. And also Windows 3.0 standard mode does not work but enhanced mode works buggily but successfully.
@O_mores 18 күн бұрын
Yes, I have problems too with /386 version. It doesn't work. :) But I didn't troubleshoot more than 5 minutes. I might take a day or two to find the right combination of DOS version/HIMEM.SYS/EMM386/partition size - sometimes the VGA card might the problem.
@roberto88958 18 күн бұрын
Maybe Windows/386 is actually expecting a genuine 386 CPU. ::)))
@ages2001 17 күн бұрын
@@roberto88958 almost all CPUs contain 386 in their heart lmao
@MotownBatman 18 күн бұрын
I tried getting Win 2.11 /386working in 86Box but the damn thing crashes after inserting the Display Disk (#2) I had them all working years ago on my Pen. 233 MMX Now Its gonna drive me nuts until I get it LOL
@O_mores 18 күн бұрын
Windows 2/386 is NOT running on this configuration either. The installation is fine, but it hangs up. I think I can do it ... but some extensive troubleshooting is required. On some AMD configuration, I managed to get Windows 2 running only under DOS 5.
@MotownBatman 18 күн бұрын
@@O_mores Yea the Problem I am having is Win 2.x Needs Ms-Dos 3.3. You have to SETVER Win200.BIN I believe, but I cant do it before the Installation Process. I Actually did it, then started the setup, but it still gave me the same Crash Error
@O_mores 17 күн бұрын
On my Ryzen 9/3900X Windows 1&2 didn't work from the first try, I had to use a patched VGA driver and remove an SSD which was causing problems with it's own FAT16 partition. On this Intel 13th Gen CPU Windows 2/286 worked without any other workarounds. If I find a solution for Windows 2/386 I'll let you know... I still believe it's doable... :)
@doris-amaliacojocariu966 18 күн бұрын
Hi Monique!!😊😊😊
@Luke-fd3qt 18 күн бұрын
first comment
@explorer9049 20 күн бұрын
i noticed msdos compatibility mode can be good if you are only doing reading from disk with a very fast CPU and you are not constantly switching between windows and virtual DOS machine application.
@O_mores 20 күн бұрын
Yes, it's quite OK on modern systems. Sometimes I don't bother to install AHCI drivers, except when I really want a SATA optical drive in Windows 9x.
@SamOlds2999 22 күн бұрын
749th like
@blakegriplingph 23 күн бұрын
Surprising how DXDIAG reports the right processor lel
@O_mores 20 күн бұрын
"In the x86 architecture, the CPUID instruction (identified by a CPUID opcode) is a processor supplementary instruction (its name derived from CPU Identification) allowing software to discover details of the processor. It was introduced by Intel in 1993 with the launch of the Pentium and SL-enhanced 486 processors. A program can use the CPUID to determine processor type and whether features such as MMX/SSE are implemented."
@ramenmaster1253 26 күн бұрын
How do you Samba setup a print server? you setup a Samba server with your Epson but I do not know how to do it. Could you make a tutorial? that would be very nice. Also nice video!
@O_mores 25 күн бұрын
I'm using an Epson print server, so basically I don't have to setup anything it will show up automatically on the network. You should read this for Windows 9x/NT: support.microsoft.com/en-au/topic/managing-network-printing-in-a-windows-environment-8e06c364-e4bf-8842-915a-ba9f077f3bda
@ramenmaster1253 24 күн бұрын
@@O_mores I have a good news update, I found that in VMware which is what I am using, I must add the serial port named pipe LPT1. Then I type the command "net use \\sambaserver\sharedprinter printer on my Samba server, I am able to print just fine. Thank you for your help!
@ramenmaster1253 3 күн бұрын
@@O_mores I have good news! I found that using a Windows 2000 VM as a print server works extremely well for MS-DOS to Windows 11. Yes you heard that right! I also accomplished another thing, I was able to print for Windows 1.0. Yes. Windows 1.0. Using the 1987 Windows 1.0 LaserJet PCL 4 driver with the printer itself came out in 1984. Windows 2000 was faster and easier in my opionion. My printer was a HP OfficeJet pro 8028e only supporting HP PCL3 GUI despite that, it works with few PCL5 printers and some newer PCL3 GUI printer drivers for 98 like the HP Photosmart 9100 and for 95 like the HP Color Inkjet CP1160.
@O_mores 2 күн бұрын
@@ramenmaster1253 Nice. This sounds like a video I should make on this channel: „Printing from Windows 1.0”... I must do some research fist. Thank for the info.
@MarcoPauloBlasckePiovezan 26 күн бұрын
PERFECT! AND I HAVE A VOODOO 3 3000 PCI 16MB IN BOX, TO SELL!
@fuattopcu2553 26 күн бұрын
winamp + total commander ❤
@EyalCohen 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video, but can you explain how a graphic card works with high resolution? Where do you get drivers for modern graphic cards and Sound cards that work on Windows ME?
@O_mores 27 күн бұрын
I'm happy you enjoyed this "time travel experience"... Windows Me had support from Microsoft until mid 2006. Hardware manufacturers stopped making drivers for Windows 98/ME about the same time. So if you pick a PCI-Express GPU from ATI or nVidia dated 2005-2006 you can find Windows ME drivers. PCI-Express is the same as PCI for Windows 98/Me you don't need chipset drivers, you simply install video drivers and get full HD resolution using a PCI-E GPU.
@shadowxsm 27 күн бұрын
did you just boot up a Windows OS in less than 2 seconds ?!??!
@O_mores 27 күн бұрын
It takes about 6-7 seconds, but mostly depends on what drivers you have installed. With networking it may take longer because Windows 95 will wait for DHCP service to get an IP. Anyway, with only sound and video drivers it is as fast as seen on the video.
@sorinl8467 28 күн бұрын
Oh man, mi-ai amintit de NFS Porsche. Ce vremuri frumoase... Nu l-am mai jucat de peste 20 de ani Dar nu înțeleg de ce te compplici cu 95. 98 era mai bun...
@O_mores 27 күн бұрын
Are si Windows 95 farmecul lui. Eu l-am folosit o vreme, chiar si prin '98/99, pentru ca Windows 98 imi facea probleme cu modemul si iaca intram cu Windows 95 pe net dupa 10 seara si stateam pina la 3-4 dimineata folosind Xnet. (serviciul de dial up de la Connex)
@lanata100 28 күн бұрын
How do you manage the chipset/mother drivers? Because that mother dont have win95/98 drivers. Otherwise your Device Mánager Will be full of ⚠️⚠️⚠️
@O_mores 27 күн бұрын
Well, in Windows 9x you don't need very specific chipset drivers, everything will be pretty standard based on x86 architecture and Basic Input Output System... (BIOS). This is enough to have disk access, keyboard and mouse input, display output etc. Next if you use the right hardware with Win 95 drivers you can get a full experience. There are universal AHCI drivers that will deal with the SATA ports - and these are like the only chipset drivers. Also on Core 2 Duo and first generations of Core i moterboards (up to 4th Gen - Haswell) you can get USB support by using NUSB drivers.
@bvazquez90 28 күн бұрын
Great video as always..! And at 5:37, I would like one of these as now I have multiple drives with different installations and want to keep track of which one is which. I've tried looking for something like this under the keywords 'text printer yellow sticker' but I know it's called something else. What's it called and where'd you get it from?
@O_mores 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. I'm using an Epson LW-400, the current model is called LW-K400: www.epson.eu/en_EU/products/printers/label-makers/remote/labelworks-lw-k400-%28qwerty-continental-ac-adapter%29/p/20333?suggestionClicked=true
@petersoumanis5494 28 күн бұрын
Wouldn't you just run this virtualised ?
@O_mores 28 күн бұрын
It runs better on real hardware, with much less power consumption. On my Ryzen 9 3900X while running PCem all 12 cores stay under full load to get rather crappy FPS with an emulated Voodoo 3. If I restart and boot Windows 95 from an SSD - my real Voodoo 3 PCI can't draw more than 25W from the PCI slot. Not to mention that I can use an Aureal Vortex or a Sound Blaster Live! sound card.
@frogz 28 күн бұрын
BUT can you get over 32 gigs storage on windows 95?
@O_mores 28 күн бұрын
You can..., but not with this version from the video (Windows 95A) which supports only FAT16. Later Windows 95 editions do have FAT32 support and in combination with this AHCI driver should work.
@andrewdupuis1151 28 күн бұрын
win 95 great os
@O_mores 28 күн бұрын
Yep, it was a revolutionary OS. I mean we are still using basically the same GUI introduced in 1995.
@DerekWitt 28 күн бұрын
Ah. 95. It had that infamous timing bug where you would get a Windows Protection Error when running on any processor 350 MHz or faster. That included my K6-2 350. It was so much of a problem that AMD released a patch free of charge.
@enginerd80 28 күн бұрын
If i remember correctly, that bug was only in the first release of Windows 95. Later OEM releases (OEM Service Releasr 2 and later) that were sold with newer PC's had the bug fixed. I've run the original Windows 95 on a virtual machine anyway, by taking one, or at most a handful of, files from a later release and replacing the files on installation media.
@DerekWitt 28 күн бұрын
@@enginerd80 I had 95B (OSR 2). I still had to apply the patch.
@enginerd80 28 күн бұрын
@@DerekWitt Ah, okay, it must have been the OSR 2.5 that was fixed for this issue, then.
@DerekWitt 27 күн бұрын
@@enginerd80 yeah, I think you’re right. 95C (OSR 2.5) sounds about right. I think 95C was released shortly before 98 was in beta or before then.
@vardekpetrovic9716 23 күн бұрын
There is also the 2147mhz bug in 98 and ME that makes the clock time go way too fast an crash the system. This same problem was also in BeOS R5, but it was patched with 5.03
@hblaub 29 күн бұрын
Is it Windows 2095 ? The next version, with AI enabled and such? ;-)
@O_mores 28 күн бұрын
By 2095 AI will be banned and Windows 2095 will treat AI like a virus... Or maybe not.
@brumm3653 29 күн бұрын
It's funny that you have AMIBIOS on both the 486 and 13th gen Core PC.
@O_mores 29 күн бұрын
Right now in the consumer market AMI BIOS is the only choice. Either you a have a crazy gaming motherboard or something more business oriented like this Asus H610M- C D4 motherboard I'm using in this video - you end up with an AMI BIOS. Being the only provider did cause trouble in Windows 9x world. A tiny bug in AMI BIOS CSM module caused all Windows 9x installations to crash into a "VCACHE Windows Protection Error" That's why "cregfix" is needed on modern hardware, generally anything released 2020+. You may want to watch this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j698oK5m3dG2ipc.html
@thepenguinbird 29 күн бұрын
gramps playing doom at 21849812 fps
@Artemis_WR 29 күн бұрын
wonder if someone would be crazy enough to attempt getting an rtx gpu working with w95
@O_mores 29 күн бұрын
Here is a RTX 2070 Super running in FULL HD on Windows Millennium: www.pinzaru.ro/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/rtx_win_me_vbe_1.png <- using VBE drivers. You can play games only in software rendering. Even so, some games will look very good. For example Half-Life looks amazing in software rendering. Also we can try OpenGL software rendering with MESA, but even a very fast CPU is not quite enough.