Up to this point in the Star Trek timeline, every single android the Enterprise encountered was a source of danger. Who knows about the rest of The Federation, but so far the evidence proves Harry Mudd right. Just because he didnt take time to cite examples doesn't negate his argument.

Soock shouldn't pick on criminal convicts for admonishing each other for their harmful activities since their conversation could potentially lead to development of remorse. Spock is guilty of Whataboutia, a form of deflection which cites Whataboutism so as to prevent the discussion of unresolved issues.

Little known fact:. The USS Enterprise is crewed by 240 men and women, and 800 shadow people.

Evil Spock knows all this because in the mirror universe his mom is a Chilton's Manual and his dad is a Shooters Bible.

Spock's time would be better spent figuring out how they wound up in Oregon, rather than pointing out logical fallacies by the crewmen.

I remember people saying that if we let the gays get married eventually society would get so degenerate we'd ostracized people for saying there are too genders or that women don't have male genitalia. I remember I laughed at those people at the time.

Catering: Curt Danhauser's wife Laundry: Curt Danhauser's mom

Nice to see Thelin again. He hasn't been in Star Trek since the animated series episode "Yesteryear." Would love to see more of him in your videos. (Note: It would be great to see him in canon Trek as well, maybe in "Strange New Worlds.") I know that you don't have any say in that, just an observation. 😊

Spock is based!

Interesting how hypocrisy is usually seen as dishonest and therefore deliberate when this shows you can still be hypocritical through irrrigorous thought and logic. Nice illustration of why recklessness is just as important as intention.

My FB-addicted Friend: You say you don’t want to use Facebook because of privacy issues, but you use Amazon, so you've aleady lost your privacy. Me: Just because I can't have _perfect_ privacy doesn’t mean I'm entitled to _no_ privacy at all.

That Lt Feline Communications officer, I want her, I need her, I must have her............Woof!!! 😍😁🥰😆😝😜🤪

This fallacy was named by Christian philosopher CS Lewis. The Christian worldview provides a basis for reason, because a loving God created an orderly universe. In an atheistic, whose to say the laws of logic will not change tomorrow? How can one even be sure truth exists? Jesus resurrected from the dead. Believe on Him for salvation!

"Oh, and Mr. Walking Bear?" "Yes, sir?" "If you want to ask Lt. M'Ress on a date, then just ask her. Don't be so pusillanimous." "Aye, sir. I will do so immediately." "That would be best."

This show was syndicated as part of The Groovie Goolies and Friends.

Everyone sounds slightly stoned hahaha

EXCELLENT!!

Thank you for healing the world with this content.

Oh my! 😅

I like the addition of the scanner in the background. More authentic to TOS!

Saucer sep , photon torpedoes an Blue phasers ❤❤❤ hell yea !!!

Well produced as always. I enjoyed the reference to our old friends the Kazinti from 'the Slaver Weapon'. This episode makes a significant departure from the usual format of Spock overhearing a debate directly: in this case, we only hear Mr Sulu's description of the debate under analysis. I think that serves to rob this instalment of some clarity. Sulu's disdainful delivery of the set up, combined with it being so common for a person to over simplify (or otherwise misrepresent) a policy they disagree with, planted in my mind the idea that he might be unreliable in his description of the policy (and I never really shook that, even when Spock says he knows of the situation). The Grassarites' arguments, as related by Sulu display various fallacies other than dogmatism; for example, there seems to be at least a few non-sequiturs before we get to dogmatism per se (the refusal to allow debate). Combined with the fairly clear parallels to an area of current affairs where policies are rarely (if ever) as simple or binary as the carnivore policy enacted on Grasslan II, this felt like we were revisiting the Straw-man Fallacy from all the way back in episode 5 rather than exploring dogmatism. Several Trek stories that tackle dogmatism use the court room format - I'm thinking particularly of 'The Outcast' (TNG), 'Distant Origin' (VOY) and perhaps O'Brian's case in 'Tribunal' (DS9). These all lay out a clear, well supported case for the audience, only for the dogmatic court to ignore it. Some of Mr Arex's thoughts flirt with that sort of 'present a case' structure; I think having him (or another character) advance a more definite, logical improvement on the policy and having a dogmatic Gassarite shut that down would have rendered the logic lesson more clearly. For example, had Arex suggested a more individualised approach (based on prisoners' needs and risk assessments in light of the fatalities) not hearing him out would be more clearly dogmatic, and that is also more reflective of real custody policies that are being analogised. This attempt at a current affairs analogy was certainly bold, and it does evoke the structure of classic Trek; I fear that it was probably overreaching to try and tackle that issue in this short format though. Despite Spock's line about 'group is to be encouraged' this could easily read (and from the comments has been read by some) as a more general dismissal of the existence or veracity of ex-carnivores (and by extension the group that analogises) rather than a comment upon specific policy details and how they are debated. Looking forward to the next instalment.

And Mr. Walking Bear is in breach of regulations and safety protocols.

It's official-"woke" is illogical!

I had this record back in the day. Until now I didn't know they didn't use the original actors and actresses that were from the television show.

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Would have expected the episode about dogmatism or zealotry to be about religion, especially given how much TOS loved to tear down false gods and beliefs based on illogical faith.

"Mr..Spock, don't you have to go annoy Dr. McCoy somewhere else?"

Wait, is this the same actor playing Koenig as on the other episodes on the records? I just noticed he pronounced the name "koh-nig" but another episode, the actor says "keh-nig". This is a decades old mystery that MUST be solved!!

God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man kills God. Man creates dinosaurs. Dinosaurs eat man. Woman inherits the Earth.

You just got Spocked, big time!!!

I wonder if this trio will get counseling from the Enterprise HR Officer?

yet another reason I never understood why lefties like star trek

100% facts. This one deserves a 30 minute episode

Could y'all do a take on "The message comes from another source, so no cause to give me divorce from this discourse." since I can't say "don't harm the messenger" in its correct phrasing. If y'all ain't already did one that is. ngl, I just pick the ones that interest me or that I am unclear on :D

This is highly logical. Spock must be aware of early 21st century dogmatism that endangered the defenseless and silenced dissent. It's nice that both Sulu and Arex have seen through this insanity and Spock agreed with them. Thank you for another fine episode on logical fallacies and thinking.

I think you should go back and rewatch #5. seems relevant here

Even when something that is widely believed is proven to be false, many will reject the proof because they refuse to admit that they were wrong.

Is eavesdropping ethical?

Thank you, in this political climate today it is related to us … again thank you for the post

Wow even this channel starting to go against disney style messaging

Brilliant 👍

yep

CHDanhauser... playing your hand, I see? The carnivores "identifying" as herbivores so they can have access and eat the herbivores? 🤣 And to have _Sulu_ being the one to bring it up? 🤣🤣🤣 Also, is Spock agreeing with Sulu in that, what may be a first, the illogic doesn't pertain to the 2 speaking? Funnily enough, you are seeing a lot of zealots below. Look, lefties: when you start putting people in jail for words, thoughts or emotions, you are not the good guys.

Good one! Thanks! :)

At least Spock corrected somebody outside the crew this time.

Crewmen, please don't drag the politics of Vissia and J'naii into the issue of the overzealous dogmatism surrounding incarcerated Kzinti on Grassland 2, as that would be most illogical.

Thank you all so very much for touching on this very subject. I guess this is why discourse must be shutdown on such topics by those in power, to prevent the scrutiny they cant defend against.

Alas, I can but like this only once.

Oh I get who is supposed to be trans and progressives and such - but I wonder who in the episode is supposed to be the big fucking straw man