Yeah that Was a pretty good one. DDP is awesome, really glad to see Jake and Scott be able to turn things around. 😄👍

DDP may be a walking billboard for himself, but there's no denying that he helped Scott and Jake. Even during the Kris Kanyon dark side you could see that Page genuinely tried to help Kris. I think he legitimately cares about people in his own weird way, even if he does put himself over a lot.

The thing to remember about DDP putting himself over in the Resurrection of Jake the Snake is that the self promotion helps him keep his business going which not only helps him financially, but also helps him keep helping people.

@@wolfhoundtv1929 very true and I didn't intend to come off as judgemental towards DDP, that's just part of who he is. He's proven to me at least that he truly does care about people.

@@joshiles Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that you were unfair to him. More just adding my nuance to your sentiment. I think he is the type of guy that professional wrestling has needed for a long time. Someone willing to put in the work to help these legends stay healthy past 55.

Definitely

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I Agree With This comment and its use english kudos to the commenter

Dark side of the ring has some of the best wrestling docs in the business if you like NFL dark side of football is equally as good

*CreatorS It’s two guys. So, that word should be plural. Not being a douche canoe. Just correcting is all

True. We heard the story from Behind The Titantron and WWE Storyline and WWE policy is...being bully and blame it on the victim. The only difference is we never heard the story from the workers that was there. The pilots or the stewardess

@@game8224 That's not what his point was...but OK. He was talking about those who reported on it back in the day not WWE

Yeah. People say Shane Douglas was sore grapes but he was saying this for years.

@@franklingoodwin yeah but he’s right

If it was Hogan we would have never stopped hearing about it

All of thats true, just add three more decades in Ric's case, no wonder his intestines just said no more, after his last big drink up. Jake baffled me completely, i never would of expected him to still be freebasing well into the 90's and possibly even to the early mid 00's whenever that indie circuit video of him finding his daughter was around.

brilliant documentary

The same is said about comedians. The funniest comedians have the darkest personal lives.

The Terrance Stamp part was silly though.

Beyond The Mat was like finding an oasis back in the day. Wrestling fans were so starved of the backstage stuff. It also helped make Mick Foley an even bigger mega star, because it just made people love him and respect him even more for what he did for a living. I remember that time well. He was so over as the company's babyface underdog at the turn of the millennium. A perfect compliment to The Rock as 'The Guy'. I think Beyond The Mat did a lot of good for everybody to pull back that curtain.

I don't. This is a lie. I guess they didn't watch the movie.

There was one night I wanted to murder WWE cause they made Ambrose look like an idiot. It was that night 8nknew they didn't know how to tell good stories anymore. It was probably like 2015 I don't remember exactly. It was after the shield broke up and Roman was doing his one against all gimmick. Earlier in the night Ambrose was in a match and was attacked by Kevin Owens. A little bit after the match they have Ambrose cause it's promo but hes gonna do whatever he can to get his revenge on Owens. Later on in the night they have Roman in a one vs all match. All these people come down, he beats them and then we get Kevin Owens coming down as his next opponent. Then they heels start a beat down. This would be the perfect opportunity for Ambrose to a) get revenge and B) help his "brother". Does Ambrose show up to help him when the beat down starts? Nope! No Ambrose anywhere and I lost faith that day.

Why cause he lost a fake title belt?

@@drewski103 there's functionally no difference between pretending to be an idiot and genuinely being one.

@@KruelAidMan Hahaha I really like that saying, shall defo be using it going forward, thank stranger!

You ain't lying. Among the things that Vince Russo has said that I believe without doubt is in relation to when they did fight in the locker room after, I believe, the "Sunny Days" promo. Vince said something like, "Brett was a real scrapper but Shawn couldn't whip cream with an outboard motor."

Ok thanks I'll watch it

I own it

I don’t buy it.

@@marcohavokkhaos You don't buy that it should be #1 or you don't buy that Jimmy Snuka was a murderer?

@@phychmasher Snuka was definitely the murderer. Someone is trying to make excuses for him and act like he’s innocent. Even if somehow, he didn’t kill her, it doesn’t look good when he physically abused her all the time.

@@marcohavokkhaos Ok, got it. I thought you were saying he was innocent for a second!!

@@phychmasher No worries. I should have elaborated, it was a vague statement. By the time they realized Snuka was most likely the culprit, it was too late. Dementia and then death, I guess that was karma.

Yes definitely.. CTE never plays out well. Hoping it’s not that.

Think it would be more of the chair shots to the head than the weed.

Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells. It's holding your hit for too long and cutting off circulation to your brain that does it.

I'm shocked to hear RVD is even thinking about going into the ring again. I watched his last year in IMPACT sorry to say he did not look good and I'm a big RVD fan from way back.yes, it could be too many head shots, concussions will do that to you. I had a bad one in 2019, still suffering from it.

@@conniecarroll747 Considering he's up there with 100+ concussions I'm about as sure as I could be that he has CTE. Also watching him talk about the things he's experiencing it's obvious. Which is such a sad thing. He gave his all and suffered for it which makes you really think: is our entertainment really worth that cost?

Vince being the age he is, has given up too much of his control to others. A lot of the people fired, were never fired by Vince or through Vince, they were fired by his staff. We all thought when Vince got older and gave control away it would make things better but, turns out... it made things even worse. Fox/NBC/Disney owning the company is honestly, a 50%/50% thing of happening in THIS DECADE,

You really have to go to the Vice Networks to see most of these they are NOT on Peacock

@@MoneyHoneyBunny, it’s all being done by Kevin Dunn and Bruce Prichard. They basically live on Vince’s ears and if they don’t like someone it doesn’t take much for them to convince him to fire someone.

@@MoneyHoneyBunny I would think perhaps were that to happen, and honestly I wouldn't want to see it happen. Vince Sr. and Gorilla would prolly turn in their graves at that point. It's a little astounding just how much is coming out in regards to how kinda shitty a person Vince Jr actually is.

I agree with your wife that it is depressing. But I also watch it for the same reasons as you.

My husband a bit of the second half of the Pillman episode, which he seemed to enjoy. The depressing episodes are my favorite, because they make my body and soul ache. The first one I cried to was the Von Erich family, and although I didn’t grow up knowing anything about them, my soul just crushed itself over and over again. I wish Kevin the absolute best these days.

@@PixityPixel I've missed missed most of the first 2 seasons, they used to be on KZfaq, now for some reason no longer are but Vice carries smaller episodes on KZfaq. Guess going to have to download their channel to get the backlog. Sorry folks, but I have to agree with Chava Guerrero there's a lot we don't really know about the Beniot case. You really need to his interview on KZfaq. He, plus some others myself included don't think the man did it. To many things were closed up too soon by Police,didn't allow forensics in last I heard. My opinion. Don't blast me.

@@conniecarroll747 if you got Hulu, Tubi, or Pluto TV they’re all on there up to date (until season 4 comes around)! or worse case scenario 🏴‍☠️

@@PixityPixel Thanks have Tubi.

True

How was that the catalyst for the Screw job?

@@matthewcox9993 Someone doesn't know what the word "catalyst" means.

His name is Vince Russo.

@@VinnieBartilucci dude! This comment literally made me laugh out loud. Sitting in a quiet room and had my wife and kids look over at me like I had 3 heads. Absolutely fantastic!

I don't think Vice actually produced that. ( if it is the same film I amthinking about) The dude who made that film seems to have put her up to a lot of shxt, like going to the Stanford offices and demanding to speak with VKM... It was literally made during her final days and the producer was a piece of shxt who facilitated her drug use.

@@pjdolont9012 I’m not sure, but it aired on that channel. That dude was an abuser, he wanted to use her fame for his own it felt at times, no sympathy or empathy of why she was beloved and cherished. And kept on making her use drugs instead of getting her help and supporting her? Complete trash person. At her lowest of lows, he used her until her death. Just heartbreaking for her and disgusting for him.

@@PixityPixel we are thinking of the same film.. I had to turn it off at a certain point.

@@pjdolont9012 yup, I wanted to keep watching, but I had to pause it at times because it was a VERY hard watch. It’s probably one of the hardest things I’ve had to watch documentary wise. Especially with her drug use, because it felt way too close to home. Addicts are very scary people because you don’t know what they can or will do. Chyna appeared happy and trying, but her body really said otherwise and that hurt me to my core.

I watched that also. Kept thinking she was with the wrong people. I was watching her, I forget which socal media thing she was on almost daily but she looked happy. Didn't care for that weird yoga guy, but it was a shock when read she'd died. The WWE and Hunter did she wrong. Jim Ross in his Podcast said he tried to help her but money wasn't the answer, and he was right plus staying there wasn't the answer also. Chyna wanted a Million dollars 💸 in her new contract which he couldn't give her. I understood that only some of the top guys were getting that. Money would not have helped her.

Read his book 📖. It really tells how much abuse he suffered from the back stage people. It's disgusting.

AEW taking over WWE in the 18-49 demographic is what the wrestling world needs to finally shake things up for wrestling as a whole as well as the WWE creative and (hopefully) Vince himself.

That's the biggest understatement in 2021 by far 😐

He’s not out of touch making money, their growth semester income is at company’s highest

"Am I so out of touch?......No....its the children that are wrong"

@@Evs78101 “children make money”

The Undertaker is alive and his real name is Mark Calloway.

@@vanessastegall r/woooooooosh

I thought it was Rikishi too...but it's actually his twin brother.

Now that he’s (unfortunately) passed away, I will need to check this out. He was also on the documentary about Jake the Snake with DDP helping both of them. The brotherhood of wrestling amazes me and warms my heart sometimes.

@@PixityPixel DDP has helped out several wrestlers, but he with out of his way to help Scott who was suffering from both knees needing surgery, the man could barely walk without canes. I saw that episode. It was so sad to see Scott in that condition.

@@conniecarroll747 it’s heartbreaking to see ANY one, especially very active people like these wrestlers in that shape. I respect and love DDP for helping his friends like that. There’s no bad blood or anything. He just wants to help and be there for them. I strive to be able to help my friends like that. I also wanna try DDP Yoga because of the stuff it’s done Jake, Scott, and for many others.. I’m just.. not the active type. 😅

@@PixityPixel I understand, I may be trying it myself since I'm going to have hip replacement surgery next month. I'm told it will be painful and already have physical therapy setup but believe there will be more than that needed.

I agree. I would even go so far as calling him an idiot.

Its worse now and getting worse everyday. Dont be naive.

@@joshportie Hows he being naive? All he did was commented about a particular topic that he was intrigued about

@@randomaccount5616 he thinks society has improved and wouldn't do those things now. Hes dead wrong. The definition of naive.

XPW was considered scummy even back then.

He was.

Don't feel bad. It's not true. Watch Headstrong.

I think you mean Kevin Steen and Claudio Castagnoli ;) I get your point, but so far, it's easier (and more accurate) to look at what AEW is doing as allowing indie performers to return to working in indie styles. And they aren't picking up everyone, either. When Vince said something along the lines of giving AEW all the talent they can handle, I got a little worried, but if you look at who AEW actually signs, it's mostly people who were stars on the indie circuit before they signed with WWE, even if a lot of people know them from WWE.

I would like to add Johnny Gargano to that list.

I totally agree...but i mean hey i look at it like this...if theyre guys i really enjoy watchin work...then of course i want them to be somewhere (on tv) where i can enjoy it and they can make a living outside WWE

Caesars, the character is gone and so is Gargano the former asked for his release while the latter didn't resign. As for Owens he just resigned for 3 or 4 more years so it seems he's happy as well as Sammi Zane who also resigned. Gargano didn't resigned because they couldn't come to terms, he said that was the only reason. He was happy in NXT, but he wanted to wrestle in the Indles WWE didn't want to agree to that.

I can see why McMahon tried to block the release of that documentary. He really comes off as a f*ckin' slime in it. When I was watching it, I wasn't sure if he was in character or being legitimate and then I slowly realized that he doesn't either. The man is a puzzle that I don't think anyone should even try to figure out for the sheer sake of their own minds.

Screw Montreal. He forgave Vince for killing his baby brother.

@@michaelgriffith5747 ☝️ 💯

Undertaker better

Something to think about..... let's say you work for me and you "earn" the Mike's job is the best job necklace and medallion but then you say I'm leaving to go work with Joe why on earth would you EVER think I'd let you leave with that necklace and medallion..... just think about it not a chance in hell I'd let you keep it so.... yeah

@@Da_Infamous absolutely a valid point. But what's missing from your analogy is that, while I'm still working for Mike, you want me to take a paycut, or maybe I should see if Joe's offer is still on the table. I don't want to leave, but I also don't want to take a paycut, and yeah Joe's offer is still on the table, so I'll go. And then you ask me to give the medallion to Karen before I go, in front of my friends and family. I really can't stand Karen, I don't think she's a good worker at all or deserves the medallion. So no, I'm not keen on doing that, either. I'll give the medallion to Mark if you want, that's fine, or I'll show up the day after I leave and just drop the medallion off. Then you can give it to Karen after I go. You respond by shooting down the Mark idea, but agree that I can come and just drop it off. The problem is that you're still sitting there, not sure if you believe that I'll just drop it off, worried I might take it over to Joe's, and who am I to tell you what to do with your medallion? So right in the middle of my farewell speech you have Earl pull the medallion from around my neck, put it on Karen, tell everyone she's now your best employee and then send everyone on their way. I'm angry because you lied to me, other colleagues have seen it and they are furious, and no one understands what the hell just happened. Vince had other ways to deal with the situation, but ultimately let ego get in the way.

Probably because he behaved.

He probably stayed out of trouble and was an ambassador for the company. Think about it, how often do you hear about Undertaker causing trouble outside the company?

He also said he was asleep during most of these flights due to being tried.

He looks like Dr.Hebert from The Simpsons.

Are there still some ? I know there a lot several years ago, but now ?

They've existed for decades

And Vince was saying not too long ago that he wanted to bring in "Bigger" guys, he didn't like the smaller ones plus he wanted smaller refs to make the wrestlers look bigger. Yeah right. That's really gonna work !!!

It was.