The Biggest Insult in GODZILLA SINGULAR POINT | OV Unscripted

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Жыл бұрын

Varan, Gorosaurus, and Titanosaurus deserved better than what they got.
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@BiitoreinGoji94
@BiitoreinGoji94 Жыл бұрын
So the point being is that those kaiju had limited characterization, yet they were remembered for their effectiveness against both enemy humans and kaiju. Varan chased away what he thought were trespassers and evaded the military on land, air, and sea. Gorosaurus strategized the kick that knocked down Ghidorah. Titanosaurus was brainwashed to help Mechagodzilla defeat Godzilla and wipe Japan off the map, only to suffer the consequences for actions he had no control over. You cannot perform a plot summary without going over these events because they have significant effects on the world and characters. Meanwhile, Aquatalus, Amphibius, and Terrestius are remembered for being botched clones of those past kaiju to be Godzilla's pre-evolved forms, almost as if Toho focused more on replicating what made Shin Godzilla memorable in the first place.
@jackmills7758
@jackmills7758 Жыл бұрын
using titanosaurus, gorosaurus and varan as godzilla forms is like having jet jaguar and ultraman be prototypes of mechagodzilla
@ShHeMiLeRe
@ShHeMiLeRe Жыл бұрын
Gorosaurus was like that one guy who did something amazing and historic early in his career but peaked too early and just couldn't live up to the hype.
@dragonzilla6482
@dragonzilla6482 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100 percent there because I love Varan, Gorosaurus and Titanosaurus and I remember getting excited on seeing what I thought were them in the trailers but disappointed when it turned out that they were just Godzilla’s other forms. They brought back Jet Jaguar, Anguirus and Manda etc, so why not these characters too? I even spoke to my mother about it and she’s no Godzilla fan but she said missed opitunity. I hope Gorosaurus, Titanosaurus and Varan get reintroduced in either a future Japanese movie or even the MonsterVerse and I DON’T WANT THEM DEAD! I WANT THEM TO LIVE! (Poof) Got to calm down.
@Godzilla-jr5gi
@Godzilla-jr5gi Жыл бұрын
Yep they only returned in the polygon trilogy prequel novels
@dragonzilla6482
@dragonzilla6482 Жыл бұрын
@@Godzilla-jr5gi Varan was barely in those.
@dragonzilla6482
@dragonzilla6482 Жыл бұрын
That’s why he needs more love and attention and as much as I like Mothra and King Ghidorah, their just so overrated and everyone else has to live in their shadow.
@Godzilla-jr5gi
@Godzilla-jr5gi Жыл бұрын
@@dragonzilla6482 rodan and mechagodzilla are also overrated
@skyylerkingery98
@skyylerkingery98 10 ай бұрын
I also love Gorosaurus and Titanosaurus and thank God Kadokawa didn't end up like Toho did, since Kadokawa did bring other showa Gamera kaiju back besides Gyaos in Rebirth
@vidwatcher30s
@vidwatcher30s Жыл бұрын
I think what really stands out about Gorosaurus is his face. The way the eyes are positioned on that huge head in relation to the long, downward-curving mouth, making him appear angry when looking forward and thoughtful, even sullen when looking downward. The overall impression is of a hauntingly morose creature. It's a very distinct design among dinosaurs or kaiju.
@Megaspinosaurusrex
@Megaspinosaurusrex Жыл бұрын
I agree! I heard some people call him ugly but I couldn't disagree more. He has that serious almost depressed look to him, that fits with his fighter nature but also inspire sympathy, he doesn't look angry like godzilla, just focused, he is a dinosaur in a world of monsters,and his suit is one of the best of the era.
@gojira387
@gojira387 Жыл бұрын
You're making me think of Gorosaurus as the "Eeyore" of the kaiju: very thoughtful and always depressed. ...it kinda fits.
@mrex8554
@mrex8554 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you about the disrespectful thing, I personally wouldn't have done it like that, I would have rather they just modified the Godzilla design to fit whichever form he needed to be in, like shin Godzilla but more chaotic, like the water form he's a giant eel like fish with a long tail, then he grows limbs and starts to grow armor as his body gets bigger, then he beging to become bipedal with his legs and head increasing in size before finally we get to ultima
@yourtimetraveleralara
@yourtimetraveleralara Жыл бұрын
Yea
@prehistorichero2755
@prehistorichero2755 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Godzilla Ultima is completely out of character for a traditional Godzilla, because he is supposed to represent the fault of mankind’s sins, and I’m no Cthulhu Mythos fan, but this one is just one of the Lovecraft Deities pretending to be Godzilla only to be defeated by a McGuffin A.I. created by man.
@johngonzalez2495
@johngonzalez2495 Жыл бұрын
You pretty much summed up my issue with this iteration. I may not like the hyper evolution stuff with Shin Godzilla, but at least that iteration was closer to the source of the character
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 Жыл бұрын
*Someone must've nuked someones math homework...and it mutated*
@jasonpratt5126
@jasonpratt5126 Жыл бұрын
Godzilla (and the other kaiju) were actually rogue AI hyperdimensional computers, or distinct programs rather, trying to solve an apparently unsolvable problem by means of competition -- although this wasn't very clear from the anime's presentation, admittedly -- compared and contrasted to Jet Jaguar trying to solve that problem by means of cooperation. In that sense, they all also represented the sin of mankind's hubris almost destroying, not only human civilization, but the whole universe (potentially.) Nor did the scientists who got us into that mess learn much of a lesson: they're going to take the bones of the hyperdimensional Godzilla Ultimate (somewhat shrunk down back to 'normal' 54 G-size apparently, as it collapsed backward through time in falling apart), and make Mecha-G out of it.
@prehistorichero2755
@prehistorichero2755 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonpratt5126 You’re wrong. The show explains every Kaiju are inter-dimensional Lovecraftian creatures, not super-intelligent AI as you theorize it. Just because you’re filling plot holes and bad scriptwriting with theories that’s never explained doesn’t make the story better! (I’m looking at you, Battleship)
@jasonpratt5126
@jasonpratt5126 Жыл бұрын
@@prehistorichero2755 I disagree about the details shown and explained by the show, although I do agree that the hyperdimensional computers are generating hostile cosmic-horror inter-dimensional entities. (Not really Lovecraftian, but that works very broadly.) Also, I fully acknowledge that the show doesn't explain this clearly (and should have done so). But the pieces and even enough of the discussion are all there. I sure can't go into sufficient detail in a KZfaq comment however. Nor do I blame anyone for being annoyed by it.
@Dinossword
@Dinossword Жыл бұрын
For one of my stories, I decided to split Ultima's forms into separate kaiju as genetic hybrids. Shin Godzilla had an evolving incarnation but I don't see the point in turning Godzilla into a Pokemon or try to make old kaiju into Godzilla's evolutions
@zaheershaikh6879
@zaheershaikh6879 Жыл бұрын
The Pokémon only works technically for ShinGoji, due to visually resembling the ontogeny-type evolution. GyuraGoji, on the other hand, is more akin to a Digimon because of how drastically different their stages are in appearance
@vidwatcher30s
@vidwatcher30s Жыл бұрын
@@zaheershaikh6879 You have a point. I'll stop referring to him as Pokezilla and start calling him Digizilla.
@yourtimetraveleralara
@yourtimetraveleralara Жыл бұрын
Cool
@iamthemouse4483
@iamthemouse4483 Жыл бұрын
For one of mine, I decided to kind of play off SP's idea with Titanosaurus, but made him his own distinct kaiju still, being a non-aggressive relative of the Godzilla species. He's also built more like a seal or walrus, able to move on land, but being much more suited to the water.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 Жыл бұрын
Not only is it an insult, I would argue it's a misleading advertisement for fans of those specific monsters. Learning Titanosaurus form was taken up but not the actual character just felt like a cold confirmation he wouldn't be showing up at all since he'd be too similar to Godzilla's earlier forms. With varan and gorosaurus it was worse cause they didn't even bother working in there iconic abilities.
@michaelchoman1625
@michaelchoman1625 Жыл бұрын
Anguirus had a personality, also: a scrappy fighting spirit and a never-say-die attitude.
@anomalotheriataurus8806
@anomalotheriataurus8806 6 ай бұрын
Heck, He Was The Only Kaiju In That Show Which Got Treated With Some Semblance Of Respect!
@IAMINSIDEYOURWALLS604
@IAMINSIDEYOURWALLS604 2 ай бұрын
​@@anomalotheriataurus8806 The first rodan also had a personality. You can also see flocks of rodans getting pissed at jet jaguar. Godzilla also has a personality (he has much nore depth and personality in the novelisation, so do most other kaiju's)
@anomalotheriataurus8806
@anomalotheriataurus8806 2 ай бұрын
@@IAMINSIDEYOURWALLS604 Technically True, But Anguirus Still Was The Most Memorable In Those Regards, Rodan Had More Of A Flock Mentality And While Godzilla Was Still Slightly More Aware Of His Surroundings Than He Ever Was in „Resurgence“ He’s Still Not As Outstanding As ’e Could’ve been
@MinecraftWorld1954
@MinecraftWorld1954 10 ай бұрын
4:12- I agree here. I don't see this as Gorosaurus. The closest approximation I can get to is, ironically, Zilla. And if that's the case, he STILL fits your point. If I were to describe Zilla, the way I would do such is protective yet arrogant. He's smart. Like, really smart for a kaiju, able to come up with several battle strategies on the fly, such as the case with the Rulers Of Earth Fight, and able to recognize family, friend, or foe, such as the case with Cyberzilla and Nick. And he actually cares about said friends and foes, such as, again, the case with Cyberzilla. However he's also a bit too arrogant, tending to get himself into situations he shouldn't and thinking himself stronger than he actually is, usually resulting in that arrogance having him 1. Relying on others for backup, 2. Getting seriously injured, or 3. Nearly dying. He's somewhat close to Godzilla personality wise, but still distinct enough to call him his own character. Also, if that is intended to be Zilla, I find that extremely ironic due to Toho's reactions to him.
@SasquaDash
@SasquaDash Жыл бұрын
Fans: We want to see Titanosaurus and Varan again. Toho: Okay, we'll bring them back, but not really. Side note: It was also kind of annoying that most of the "new" kaiju in the series were just uninspired copies other classic Toho monsters. I get that they were trying to "pay homage" to the older monsters, but for the most part it just felt lazy...
@MinecraftWorld1954
@MinecraftWorld1954 Жыл бұрын
Titanosaurus especially really hurt for me being that Terror Of MechaGodzilla was one of the first Godzilla movies I watched as well as one of my favorite Godzilla movies, and Titanosaurus, alongside MechaGodzilla, is one of my favorite kaiju of the Godzilla mythos BECAUSE OF HIS PERSONALITY AND HIS STORY alongside the design
@tallaaron1115
@tallaaron1115 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you that the designs were disrespectful when they attatched it to Godzilla and not provided those previous monsters credit. They were not Godzilla to me, it is why that series never really fit well with me. Monster's played by actors are actually characters in my view. I really wish they would bring out respectful versions of these older monsters.
@skyylerkingery98
@skyylerkingery98 Жыл бұрын
I agree, because I thought those two were Titanosaurus and Gorosaurus but they're not, they're Godzilla's forms so that is insult what Toho ever did, sure Gorosaurus and Titanosaurus are Kaiju like/size but I think them as just Dinosaurs because Toho confirmed it. So Toho needs quit being stubborn and just bring them back.
@enocescalona
@enocescalona 11 ай бұрын
i love that you have something i appreciate myself too about Kaiju, one has to portray a personality merely through actions. When you said Godzilla never backs down and is basically determination in physical form, i agree. In all movies i'd seen with him in there, Godzilla will never stop fighting until the opponent dies. He always makes sure to kill the foe. Honestly, great work on those explanations.
@kaijubeyondbelief8053
@kaijubeyondbelief8053 Жыл бұрын
Much like with Space Jam: A new legacy, we deserve better, Godzilla deserves better
@Firedrake-SP
@Firedrake-SP Жыл бұрын
1. Why couldn't Terrestrial be the first form of Godzilla? Aquaticus and Amphibious weren't necessary to have in GSP. 2. The body parts of Terrestrial's are based on Gorosaurus (tail) and Zilla (arm position). 3. Omni Viewer, I agree with you about what you're saying in this video you made.
@diegodankquixote-wry3242
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Жыл бұрын
Before I watch video, I think Ultima is cringe because they reveal all the kaiju are 500 iq giga-chads yet Ultima godzilla acts no different then any other rampaging kaiju and goes nothing of interest the entire show. Not only that he has litterally no back story and no reason to exist. Why not take advantage of the premise they setup and have Ultima godzilla victim of the red dust in some way. Prehaps heuses his 4d power to send a challenge humanity to see if they are worthy of using the red dust. Prehaps he challenges one of the main characters to a game of literally 4d chess? It could literally be anything, but he's just be any other kaiju from the franchise, it could be Varan Ultima and it won't change the story at all.
@maniacalclefable1354
@maniacalclefable1354 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS HOW SAD TITANOSAURUS IS
@jasonpratt5126
@jasonpratt5126 Жыл бұрын
In regard to the mandate, meanwhile: I don't know if it happened because Toho simply demanded a Shin-style evolution for its own sake, but I can see very easily that if Toho hadn't done this then the story as a whole would be EVEN MORE "Jet Jaguar: Singular Point" than it already is, because Godzilla wouldn't appear until the final forty-ish minutes of what amounts to two two-hour films with his name in the title as a draw. Not that I mind the story being "Jet Jaguar Singular Point" -- I like what was going on there (once I understood it better), and the anime works MUCH better (for me anyway) as PRIMARILY a Jet Jaguar story. But for marketing purposes, having Godzilla show up as the guest opponent in the final two eps out of 12 (or whatever), would be vastly more difficult to sell as a Godzilla story. It's already pretty hard already, since Godzilla (even as Aquaticus) barely appears, in any active role, in the first 2 running hours, a few seconds tops.
@angilobascomi8617
@angilobascomi8617 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else feel like a certain group of people will support anything as long as Toho does it? Imagine if Legendary did any of the things Toho did with Shin, Singular Point or the Anime trilogy, people would be so angry about it. But it’s Toho so it’s okay. Also I hate the revisionist history a lot of people have been using to defend this kind of thing. People saying the kaiju have never been characters to defend Tohos new interpretations of them and to complain about Legendary. And of course the new nitpickey complaints that have been arising on the bird social media. Like how Godzilla inexplicably standing in deep water or swimming horizontally is a new thing by legendary and that’s bad, but Godzilla has been doing those things for decades.
@ricardodavis4730
@ricardodavis4730 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Omni. Based on this video, would you like to do a video on the personalifies of the other kaiju? That actually sounds very fascinating.
@michaelchoman1625
@michaelchoman1625 Жыл бұрын
Gorosaurus' kangaroo kick first appeared in King Kong Escapes, btw.
@TylerRakstis
@TylerRakstis Жыл бұрын
It's kind of now sad there's a huge debacle on how certain kaiju are named based on their toys.
@britishboi8801
@britishboi8801 Жыл бұрын
By George Washington Carver's peanuts, you got it!
@tacosnake4342
@tacosnake4342 Жыл бұрын
One more thing could add is the roar for the forms for amphibia being varans roar mix with 54's roar as well, and terrestris also having a mix roar of godzilla and gorosaurus 🤔
@jasonpratt5126
@jasonpratt5126 Жыл бұрын
Finally, at long last, Gabara will be awesomely coo------ oh. Uh, not really Gabara. This feels worse, because the others had their fans already, and I don't know that Gabara ever had fans (myself included). But Gabby COULD HAVE BEEN better, and that would have been even MORE of an improvement than giving the other trio legitimate time to shine in improved forms. Note that the 'character' argument applies even more with Gabara than with the others.
@tremolandi3918
@tremolandi3918 Жыл бұрын
100% FAX! Varan hasn't got any other film rises, except get scrapped a ton of times. Titanosaurus was negatively received, and Gorosaurus was great, but was never considered for the rest of the series, so far. Personally, I prefer designing Godzilla's forms reminiscent to some Monsters I loved to watch, like Dinocroc or Supergator, or maybe Dinoshark. However...I might get hated for doing that though.
@alexallen9640
@alexallen9640 Жыл бұрын
Nice discussion and topic 🙂👍
@rickyrackey7930
@rickyrackey7930 Жыл бұрын
“Is that Titanosaurus?” Toho: •Yes’nt”
@godzillagurus576
@godzillagurus576 8 ай бұрын
Honestly im thinking toho is trolling
@AEsir_Goji
@AEsir_Goji Жыл бұрын
Whilst I have an overall, I suppose indifferent, view of Singular Point compared to the Anime trilogy and Shin (which I tend to outright hate), yeah. What happened here with using the designs but not the characters is insulting. Rather disappointing for me too since I'd love to see more of Goro and Titano. Loved Goro in DAM when I was a kid and Titano was just a neat design in general. Plus I actually like his roar. BTW Omni, since you've done videos on Lego Godzilla stuff before, I was curious if you plan on getting and reviewing any of the off-brand Godzilla vs Kong sets?
@thealmightyoreoking
@thealmightyoreoking Жыл бұрын
I would’ve had Titanosaurus, Varan and Gorosaurus be distant offshoots of Godzilla’s species
@Alzilla09
@Alzilla09 11 ай бұрын
I can’t help but agree with you. I was so disappointed that those Kaiju were not Titanosaurus, Varan and Gorosaurus! Instead they were just forms of Godzilla. I honestly feel that Godzilla Ultima was just Shin Godzilla 2.0 just with lovecraftian vibes. Plus Godzilla was barely in his own series until the last two episodes and what a waste! I honestly wish Toho would stop trying to replicate Shin Godzilla over and over again. You can’t catch lightning in a bottle twice! Aside from that I wish those forms were Titanosaurus, Varan and Gorosaurus. However the designs don’t appeal to me that much. These Kaiju are loved by fans even if they are not that famous like Toho’s big five. They deserve better heck Godzilla deserves better in anime as well!
@epic-ace-studios8519
@epic-ace-studios8519 Жыл бұрын
For me on the gorosaurus design was the long tail
@heatseekerx51
@heatseekerx51 Жыл бұрын
GODZILLA SINGULAR POINT! ONE-THOUSAND YEARS DISHONOR!
@scottsignorelli6396
@scottsignorelli6396 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you.Though I will admit the series was much better then the Earth Godzilla series the designs of Singular Point we're just flat out rediculous and an insult the the Kaiju designs that were a part of so many of our childhoods.And I thought Final Wars was an issue this was worse.
@spikezillaproductions9482
@spikezillaproductions9482 Жыл бұрын
I’ve assumed that the reason why the 3 other forms were probably at the demand of Bandai so they could sell more toys called Godzilla
@gojirafan5437
@gojirafan5437 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that sees a bit of Zilla in Godzilla Terrestris?
@NerdicWarrior
@NerdicWarrior Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, I really didn't care for Godzilla's evoluts in the Singular Point anime. Not just because of the blatant Shin Godzilla reference but also because of the designs. Godzilla Aquatus especially. It's clearly Titanosaurus' design not Godzilla. Godzilla Ultima looked cool though but it felt like they didn't do muxh with it. They should have just used that design from the get go and not even bother with the Shin Godzilla route of Godzilla having different forms. Still, it was a better Godzilla anime than the polygon trilogy. But that's not to say it was perfect.
@fordderek2429
@fordderek2429 Жыл бұрын
The biggest insult to Godzilla singular point since the script maybe.
@lautaroasis60
@lautaroasis60 Жыл бұрын
I never saw the "Gorosaurus" thing
@Godzillakingofkaiju1
@Godzillakingofkaiju1 Жыл бұрын
I will stand by my opinion that Singular Point is probably the best of the Reiwa series we've gotten lately, but I think the reason we (again) got an evolving Godzilla is two-fold. 1. The crew behind Singular Point may have WANTED to use Titanosaurus, Varan, and Gorosaurus but they weren't given enough episodes to work with so, they had to squeeze them in as best they could. And by that I mean, just take their models they had for Titano, Varry, and Goro and stick Godzilla's dorsal fins on them. 2. Toho, again, wanting to capitalize on Shin Godzilla without considering Godzilla's evolution in that movie was meant to represent the ever-evolving threat posed by the Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami, and Fukushima Daiichi meltdown.
@godzillabebravethetrexretu1381
@godzillabebravethetrexretu1381 Жыл бұрын
I like godzilla: singular point but I feel like titanosaurus, varan, and gorosaurus should have been their own monsters instead of being forms of godzilla and godzilla ultima should have never had an evolution ability
@NerdXZ-pn4nt
@NerdXZ-pn4nt Жыл бұрын
The pacing was terrible and it felt like they trying to copy shin Godzilla.
@Watertownzombi
@Watertownzombi Жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm in the minority because I really enjoyed SP. I like all the references to almost every era of Godzilla I found the story and interesting spin on Godzilla and i loved what they did with JJ. It's a show that i have gotten more out of every time I watch it (I have seen it three times). While i do see where your coming from I'm don't find the forms to be disrespectful I like that we got new monsters with nods to older Toho Kaiju and lets not kid are selves the only reason it had multiple forms was so Toho could sell more toys same reason why they went with multiple forms for shin Godzilla.
@Godzilla-tu2cd
@Godzilla-tu2cd Жыл бұрын
I agree
@macwade2755
@macwade2755 Жыл бұрын
Hey Omni!
@spider431461
@spider431461 10 ай бұрын
Great
@Biochemitra
@Biochemitra Жыл бұрын
I was never *offended* by the way these kaiju are turned into costumes for the main monster, but I certainly did have a lingering sense of disinterest in them. Like, I *should* be ecstatic to get Titanosaurus, Varan and Goro, but when I saw the designs it was just "shin Godzilla 2.0 with easter eggs. K." And I was never particularly fond of Shin Godzilla in the first place. Truthfully, I have very mixed feelings about everything I've seen and heard about Singular Point. This is clearly someone's passion project, it's clearly made by people who love the series, and they clearly have a strong interest in the... whatever sci-fi high concepts they're playing with. But nothing about it really grabs me. Godzilla's not a character, the *other kaiju* aren't really characters, the sci-fi elements seem to do more telling than showing, and I just... really don't have much hope that this series is for me. Eventually I'll give it a shot, and who knows? It may surprise me.
@UltimateThanos
@UltimateThanos Жыл бұрын
Godzilla is a dark avenger who's out to avenge himself. He may not understand the nuances of nuclear physics or weapons technology, but he does understand at least that humans must have been responsible for the great fireball that rendered him a destitute freak. So now he is determined to fight back against humanity until we are either extinct or bowing at his feet. He refuses to let other kaiju stand in the way of his crusade, or to show him up.
@Guyverman01
@Guyverman01 Жыл бұрын
Chances are they knew they couldn’t have made money off of those C-tier Kaiju, but still wanted to feature them anyways. So they worked around the issue by recycling the same gimmick as Shin Godzilla.
@Megaspinosaurusrex
@Megaspinosaurusrex Жыл бұрын
Considering how expensive the figures for those characters are, I don't see how they couldn't make money from them. The series revolve around jet jaguar who also can be considered a C-tier Kaiju since he never appeared since the showa era. So I doubt that's the problem.
@DUARTE99
@DUARTE99 6 ай бұрын
I agree bro.
@The_Wonders_of_Engineering
@The_Wonders_of_Engineering 2 ай бұрын
Reflecting on the anime now, I think the sentiment of this video and much of the comment section is pretty tedious. While it would have been really cool to see all new incarnations of the classic monsters, it doesnt invalidate how GSP respects the franchise in its own way. GSP has so many fun easter eggs and references that its really hear to imagine the creators werent huge godzilla fans
@omniviewer2115
@omniviewer2115 2 ай бұрын
1) Disrespect is not reliant on intention. I'm sure you, at some point, had to deal with the awkward aftermath of saying or doing something you thought was fine that the people around you took umbrage with for whatever reason. I know this is true because everyone has; it's unavoidable. 2) Easter eggs and references alone do not equate to respect. Thor: Love & Thunder has Easter eggs and references, but it still treats the characters and plot like the punchline of a joke only Taika Waititi thinks is funny. The 2019 Hellboy reboot is filled with references and Easter eggs as well, but it's nigh-unwatchable. Easter eggs and references are seasoning. The story is the meal. No amount of seasoning can disguise when a steak is undercooked or burnt, and no amount of references can distract from a poorly-executed show. 3) The team behind GSP could very well be fans, but that doesn't make them infallible or immune to scrutiny. I have many, MANY issues with GSP, the topic of this video being just one of them. There are numerous setups without any payoff (not just the cliffhanger ending), extended scenes of technobabble that are more confusing than interesting, and the two leads end up switching specialties early in the show. I've gone into detail in other videos, though. That said, GSP is still better than the Polygon Trilogy, but it's a far cry from SSSS.Gridman.
@The_Wonders_of_Engineering
@The_Wonders_of_Engineering 2 ай бұрын
@omniviewer2115 Yes in everyday life you can be disrespectful by accident, but it's not exactly reasonable to take offense or get too upset by people accidentally saying something disrespectful. I would argue intent does matter especially with art. Surely you wouldn't say an earnest adaption doing something you don't quite gel with is at the same level of something like godzilla 98, which actively hated the franchise. The anime wanted an evolving godzilla and used the forms to pay homage to other kaiju. In the example of Thor, taika actively did not give a shit about the subject. Would not say that comparaio is applicable lmao. Your ultimate point is correct tho. What matters is the story and if it doesn't work for you that's fine. I personally really liked the theoretical physics and concepts and found them interesting. Hard sci fi concepts are part of godzilla's history and GSP was pretty engaging. Don't blame people for not getting sucked into it. But not liking it is not the same as it being offensive.
@omniviewer2115
@omniviewer2115 2 ай бұрын
@@The_Wonders_of_Engineering Hang on, I didn't say "offensive". I said this aspect of the series is disrespectful. There is a difference. To be disrespectful is to not hold something in esteem; to be offensive is to be actively revolting. I do not take umbrage with these proto-Godzilla forms because they are revolting, but because they exist at the expense of respect. The choice takes three characters with established personalities and abilities, and reduces them to their looks. They are just skins that serve as variations of Godzilla rather than the individuals they started out as. Would you say that all Star Trek Captains are just James T. Kirk with different hair? Would you say that all superheroes are just Superman in different colored tights? I say no, because each individual character is just that: individual. To not acknowledge that individuality and reduce them all to nothing but costumes worn by one entity is to be disrespectful of the work that went into crafting them as characters. The same thing applies to Kaiju. Yes, I know Waititi doesn't care about Thor or Marvel in general. That's why I also brought up the Hellboy reboot in my example. By all accounts, the people involved in that train wreck are fans of the comics, yet a train wreck it remains. Of course, the decision to have an evolving Godzilla almost certainly came from Toho rather than the GSP creative team. Given how the only features that denote Aquatilis, Amphibia, and Terrestris as Godzillas are dorsal that are totally incongruous with the overall designs, I think it's clear that making them Godzilla variants was a late stage mandate from the studio because they still wanted to replicate Shin. The disrespect could easily be on the studio's part rather than the writers', but it's still disrespectful.
@allangarddegriss6798
@allangarddegriss6798 6 ай бұрын
For me, I really dislike Jet Jaguar. They did my boy such a dirty making him look so wonky. I guess they wanted a more realistic look (?) But considering how the show went , at least towards the end I'd liked to have seen a better design.
@antisious
@antisious Жыл бұрын
Not once did I think those forms looked like any of those kaiju. I was fine with the designs. It's the dialog that I couldn't follow.
@jonathansalazar4630
@jonathansalazar4630 Жыл бұрын
While I do really like singular point I think godzilla having different forms was a bit unnecessary other than just to recapture what shin godzilla did, but in shin the different form served a purpose to godzilla's character in the film being an ever evolving monstrosity that can potentially end the human race and it really adds to the horror not really disrespectful but just a bit distracting in my eyes but I still enjoyed singular point though.
@serpentquinterolopez211
@serpentquinterolopez211 5 ай бұрын
I’m agree
@cicadahuman
@cicadahuman Жыл бұрын
What do you think about Varan's design being incorperated into King Ghidorah's heads in GMK?
@omniviewer2115
@omniviewer2115 Жыл бұрын
That's a little bit different. It's not GMK presented a King Ghidorah design and called it Varan (or vice versa); rather, it included a few minor details while maintaining the overall design of King Ghidorah.
@johngonzalez2495
@johngonzalez2495 Жыл бұрын
No comparison
@johnnygallagher5718
@johnnygallagher5718 Жыл бұрын
As much as I like this version of the Big G, I will admit he has his flaws.
@epic-ace-studios8519
@epic-ace-studios8519 Жыл бұрын
I may know this no season 2 if at all. So now it's just bad 😞. I'm having polygon syndrome from the nefarious and infamous trilogy.
@Kaiju-bm4ts
@Kaiju-bm4ts Жыл бұрын
Kdm confirmed s2 is in production on Twitter, it's just radio silence at the moment
@spinosaurusstriker
@spinosaurusstriker Жыл бұрын
​@@Kaiju-bm4ts really? It seems like they are just gonna cancel the project
@Kaiju-bm4ts
@Kaiju-bm4ts Жыл бұрын
@@spinosaurusstriker you can say the same thing about the skull island anime yet that's still in post production as we speak. Projects enter a radio silence period as they're being worked on, doesn't mean they been scrapped. Singular point did better in Japan than it did globally which is why it got a s2 announcement. Unfortunately kdm was the only source to report on it and only a selected few kaiju fans follow him on Twitter or know of him. This is what happens when fans only see toho/legendary as their only sources when smaller sources like leakers or journalists (kdm) do exist
@theferretman2157
@theferretman2157 10 ай бұрын
Personally, I'm fine with these guys being Godzilla forms (if done in a way where him evolving was used in a way that wasn't just to make it weird like Shin aside from the third form), personality in a kaiju is something that really depends on the media imo, and I'd find it hard pressed to say most renditions of a kaiju carry over traits from the last time. Anguirus going from the determinator best friend in the Showa series to an overgrown kitten in SP is a great example where none of the personality really carried over, and I love both takes on the character. They are designs where a distinct personality can be molded onto it for 90% of Godzilla's roster, and imo that's great and makes it work for working them in as a design reference. Also I completely agree on Terrestris being only Gorosaurus-like in the fact it's a theropod dinosaur, really I don't think the connection would've been made if the other two didn't exist and as is I think it works oerfectly as a sub-adult of Ultima's species.
@epic-ace-studios8519
@epic-ace-studios8519 Жыл бұрын
Nope but it is something equally insulting
@doom7ish
@doom7ish Жыл бұрын
How is this supposed to be disrespectful? Seriously the series is supposed to be something different. Technically Varan is a Godzilla Variant so is Gorosaurus and Titanosaur. This isn't the same Showa Godzilla, this is an entirely different Creature not born of humanity but Lovecraftian Unknowability.
@ShinGhidorah17
@ShinGhidorah17 Жыл бұрын
Shin Godzilla did better.
@ronniepatterson2827
@ronniepatterson2827 Жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait! You telling me Toho lending the Baragon suit to the crappy Ultraman series, is why he didnt play a bigger role in Destroy All Monsters? smdh Have you seen what they did to Godzilla when Toho let them Ultraman clowns borrow that suit? They put a Jurassic Park style lizard frill on him & called it a Jiger or some shit!!!! My / Our Godzilla has a neck frill for Christ sakes !!!!!
@johngonzalez2495
@johngonzalez2495 Жыл бұрын
It was called Jirass lol. I think it was female too
@Godzilla-tu2cd
@Godzilla-tu2cd Жыл бұрын
I don't mind these new evolve forms yes they look like Gorosaurus Varan Titanosaurus But it's not them they just took inspiration from them somewhat design wise look at GMK ghidorah and made them a evolution set. Yes I want them to make a comeback but I'm fine with what I got.
@StrawHatZethy
@StrawHatZethy Жыл бұрын
I really love Singular Point. The characters, concepts, music, the 2d and 3d animation are also great, and even the voice cast is absolutely stellar. A solid 8/10 anime. I understand the criticism of using similar designs to certain Kaiju but not using the kaiju I get it, but using that and saying it's "disrespectful"...disrespectful to who exactly? Are we gonna say artist can't have their own interpretations of works because it will offend fans of the original? That's preposterous. The polygon trilogy was very poorly done and executed terribly, while I enjoyed a few concepts of the trilogy it just fell flat and went out like a wet fart. Singular Point actually gave us as Godzilla fans an actual quality anime with great production. I hope we get a season 2 and I hope we get more Godzilla anime from different animation companies to see their take
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Жыл бұрын
If we were gonna get a Season 2, we probably would have gotten it by now.
@omniviewer2115
@omniviewer2115 Жыл бұрын
You ask who it is disrespectful to, and I will answer. For one, it disrespects the fans who have waited years to see these characters get a proper update, only to see them used in the same capacity as a video game character skin. It also disrespects the creative teams of the past who put so much time into realizing these characters in terms of design, performance, and effects execution, because it essentially says that the design is the only thing that matters, and even that can just have another name slapped on it. Never once did I say that artists cannot have their own interpretations of things. However, an artist is not exempt from criticism if his interpretation doesn't work or insults the audience. Frankly, I'm not even sure this is an artistic interpretation, as I say at the end; it could very well be the result of executive meddling, which is also not exempt from criticism. In either case, the result is the same.
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing: an Artist _can_ have their own interpretation. But if the excuse for them to make it look different is purely "Cause I wanna do something different" that is basically spitting in the face of fans and the character itself. Example: The Eragon film. The Director completely butchered the novel that movie was supposed to be based on because he wanted to do, and I quote "Something different." Characters had their race changed, an actual unique creature was turned into generic orcs, it fell apart quickly. You can have a different interpretation of the creature, but it's obvious that Singular Point and Polygon really didn't have any respect for Godzilla.
@StrawHatZethy
@StrawHatZethy Жыл бұрын
@Velociraptors of Skyrim I havent read the source material for Eragon, but I still found the movie to be bad, I was a child and still thought it was bad, same with the Spiderwick movie. Interpretations can be bad
@StrawHatZethy
@StrawHatZethy Жыл бұрын
@Omni Viewer I just feel saying it's disrespectful is a bit much. It's pretty much like saying they are doing it on purpose to upset the fan base or that they don't care about the sources material. I'm sure they love Godzilla just as much as the rest of us. The problem probably rests with Toho and licensing. I'll give an example in the video game Dead by Daylight they got the rights to use the Ghostface mask but not the character from the Scream movie, so they had to make their own version of the character. Essentially, the same character is just a work around the licensing. I'm guessing Toho gave them the no-go on using the names and licensing of certain monster, so they did the best they could in order to appease the fans.
@legendarygodzillatheking3049
@legendarygodzillatheking3049 Жыл бұрын
Atleast singular point is better than the hanna barbera godzilla series and the 1998 animated series
@spinosaurusstriker
@spinosaurusstriker Жыл бұрын
Yeah but this is like saying thor love and thunder is better than the room.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 Жыл бұрын
Wh- Godzilla the animated series is WAAAAAAAAAY better than the singular point! *infinitely better.* and I don't even dislike singular point that much the animates series was amazing! and say what you will about the Godzilla power hour but it has it's charm
@avaragehomuraakemienjoyer
@avaragehomuraakemienjoyer Жыл бұрын
​@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Nah, Godzilla Power Hour has no charm, it's just utter garbage.
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