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She was only seventeen then. Which of us was entirely serious about romance at that age?

Not necessarily, I was under the impression that they kept any correspondence from Alice from her, as well as forbidding Freda to correspond in return. This wouldn't be unexpected and wouldn't be difficult to manage.

I think they came across the reality of their situation at that time. Freda decided that there was no hope in continuing like they had, and changed her course for one that was possible in society's eyes. Alice again saw no other way forward than with Freda, felt betrayed by her decision to move forward and probably saw no way out for herself.

@Randy Baumery It is hard to be serious when you marry an asshole named Randy.

@@liandra83 Killing the love of your life pretty much ends yours. Alice must have been prepared for the death penalty

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I honestly think a streaming (channel? network? what exactly are they? lol) should pick up BC, but I'd be scared they'd force changes to it which would suck the life out of it.

@@mystic_tacos I think something like a podcast would better fit his style. His voice is clear and easy on the ears, and the visual aspects aren’t a necessity to the story, just filler to occupy space. So a podcast could work very well. I think that’s be a good way to avoid a streaming network from forcing changes or changing the style.

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No, she carried a razor!

She was insane because she slit her lover's throat.

Well, if that's the criteria for insanity, then I must be stone cold crazy!! 😂

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You know, I'm going to guess it wouldn't have been great? The whole "if I can't have you noone can" thing really points to Alice likely being a controlling and abusive partner. Maybe she would have been a better person if society had been more accepting but also, maybe not. Certainly people whose relationships were accepted by society have done that sort of thing in the face of rejection before. My guess? Even with complete societal acceptance, this relationship would have ended in an ugly way.

@@mitrovarr This is probably true. All the warning signs of a controlling relationship were there, but it's strange how people are willing to overlook that.

@@mitrovarr I think you're right I think socialist acceptance has nothing to do with this case. The girl was obviously homicidal

No difference most probably. There are people nowdays (both straight and homosexual) that don't deal good with refusal or with someone breaking up with them. The problem was Freda refusing to be with her anymore, not the fact that the society didn't approve. It seems that Alice had no idea that Freda broke up due to her family's disapproval. Alice thought that Freda just didn't want to stay with her anymore and that was enough for her to kill Freda.

Umm... Alice still would have been psychotic and one way or another it would have ended bad.

so sad. Anyway, i'd like to know how many people die actually in prison (here recently, in Spain, Assunta's mother killed herself w her bathrobe belt

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A Boston marriage was understood to be romantic

@@lazyhomebody1356 Some were romantic, some weren't, but to society at large, they seemed completely respectable because so many people (usually men) assumed women were just totally sexless beings unless there was a man involved. There's a reason the term acquired a stigma at the same time psychology finally acknowledged the fact that women have sex drives, too.

@@FunSizeSpamberguesa I had only heard the phrase in a Henry James letter when he was telling someone that two women WERE girlfriends, as they were in a Boston marriage

@@lazyhomebody1356 It's theorized that James' sister was actually gay, but the term was well-known by then as a platonic one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_marriage. Once general society started suspecting they could actually be romantic and sexual, they lost respectability. (It's worth noting that the idea of lesbianism really wasn't that well-known to most people in the 19th century; there's a reason laws against homosexuality at the time almost exclusively refer to gay men.)

@@FunSizeSpamberguesa Interesting! Henry was gay. I don't know about Alice, but she was a strange one

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I seen that on deadly woman to. Poor freda:(

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@@Kindred04 my uncle loved Gertrude Stein and lent me many books on her. She was a fascinating woman. She knew so many famous artists before they were well known and lived an interesting life. At least Gertrude and Alice got to spend their lives together. My uncle passed in March and I kept many of his books on Gertrude and Alice. I think people should just be allowed to be themselves. Have a wonderful Christmas.

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Just another sad example of how family meddling and misunderstanding can have tragic consequences. I'm sure Freda's family thought they were doing what was best for her. What makes it even worse is that they probably never realised that their own actions led to their daughter's death.

@@meemurthelemur4811 I completely agree. However, I will say with Alice’s obsessive and jealous tendencies, I’m not sure if their relationship would have been a very healthy one. 😬

@@mannequinn_made420 it’s difficult to have a healthy relationship when the world is persecuting you for existing.

@@mannequinn_made420 there's no doubt there, but given time and understanding (if not at least tolerance) there's no way of knowing if she still would have killed Freda. There would still have been the chance that circumstances would have enabled Freda to find a way out of the relationship that wouldn't have resulted in her death.

@@meemurthelemur4811 I don’t think she would’ve, or i would hope she didn’t kill Frieda, I think it just would’ve been a very unhealthy relationship. Like being overly possessive, jealous, etc. which undoubtedly would’ve led to some altercations. I would hope not to this extent 😳

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It still would not have ended well as Freda was developing into hetero relationships and leaving her cloistered girlish ways. She was moving on with no concern over not seeing her girlish crush.

I know my opinion isn't popular, but I think Alice deserved someone who actually loved her as deeply as she loved them. What she did to Freda was absolutely wrong and horrific, but Freda clearly wasn't serious about her. She was acting like a simple-minded little girl and ignoring Alice (after accepting her proposal) because some boys were starting to pay attention to her. I think it was just a game or phase to Freda, but it was real to Alice.

Wait. Who punished whom for being themselves? Sounds like these two had a good plan until Frida met someone else. Alice was lightly punished for killing someone... not because she was gay. Frida was punished for cheating and not ending a relationship properly.

@@scharf74 When they were found out, Frida's family prevented her from having contact with Alice and sent everything Alice sent back to her. The punishment came from Frida's family long before the murder was committed. I'd hazard a guess that Frida wasn't cheating and didn't break off the relationship, she was likely pressed into the relationship with the man as being more "proper" and all contact with Alice was cut off by the family. She was all into the relationship, despite the man until the sister found out and told on her.

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Straight men who kill their girlfriends over real or imagined betrayals have zero lack of community to fall back on, zero fear of repercussions for expressing straight love, and countless people they could turn to in crisis, unlike this young gay woman , but okay

@@Mutilatrix The fact remains there is really no excuse for killing a significant other. No one should have to fear violence and death because they no longer want to be in a relationship. People of all orientations have been rejected since the beginning of time but absolutely none of them had the right to take someone’s life.

When did anyone claim it was an excuse? I was pointing out a false equivalence.

agree.......

Alice despite being obsessed with Freda Alice is also that type of person that wants things to go on her way and when her plan of getting married with Freda and run away to st Louis to live together didn't go on her way she killed Freda as punishment.. And also killed Freda because both wemon made a pact. this happened when Alice proposed to Freda in three different letters Freda say yes three times so...I don't know why Alice keep asking her the same question 😂😂😂😅 after Freda accepted the third time Alice told her Freda she would only belong to Alice and disloyalty meant death if Freda broke off their engagement Alice promise to kill her and that's exactly what happened Alice felt she had to keep her word. Alice also felt in her mind there was just two choices either they were going to be together or Freda was going to die. So sadly this is another sign that Alice was mentally and emotionally unstable because she have many red flags on her and even threaten to take her own life and even warn Freda about murdering her

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