I'm def trying it... Really have been wanting to!

But I can get my own free trial ?? I don't get it. But thank you all !!

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Thank you BC but I don’t need skillshare ! I think frankies dad killed him and helped daughter chop him up

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I am a descendant and we did just fine, thanks.

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What do u mean bed you goober, i just woke up??

I always find these type of comments funny. You're basically saying "Your content is so boring it helps me fall asleep, thank you!" 😁

Thank you for saying "hanged". Pictures are hung, people are hanged. Great episode as always.

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But if there was another family member, then I think it is not self defense.

I was thinking something similar. It might have been selfdefence, or something like manslaughter but instead of reporting it immediately, getting rid of evidence and trying to hide it had her in a less favourable position.

@@annabogumil4110 It might have been selfdefence but some other familymember came with a bad advice of trying to get rid of the body (and eventually evidence to her favour) instead of reporting it immediately?

These are all very interesting points. This case really got me thinking too! Frankie's father made that comment which definitely implies the involvement of other family member/s.. but I can't imagine a father letting his daughter take all the blame if other evidence might have saved her from the gallows. Did she really convince family member/s to help her murder Charlie? (It seems a mighty huge job for one young woman to do alone.. murdering, chopping up and burning the body! 🤔) Or was she really a battered wife (for which there is no hard evidence) - acted in self defence and possibly got others to help dispose of the body after the killing? I am convinced she had help in some way! So many theories abound, but whatever really happened inside the family cabin on that fateful night will always remain a mystery. A very messed up case.. and totally intriguing 😱

That's what the majority of us here in Morganton believe..

@@tross8863 Interesting to hear that the present population of Morgantown , hold such a collective view on the case, so many years later, as the saying goes there's no smoke without fire & her stature would certainly not have been sufficient to overwhelm someone of her husband's size alone ! so she was either a part of the family doing the deed & complicit in the crime or innocent until after the fact & given up as the scapegoat to save their skin's society at the time being in favour of male rather than the female rule. Also woman were more prone to using poison during that period rather than butchery skills! I think she was an innocent not just because of her age but doubt that even in the heat of temper she would have been able to do the deed & afterwards plan the disposal of the corpse, definitely someone more life experienced had a hand in the matter!

OR, since the dead man's parents took custody of the child, there was some concern how they would treat her if Frankie had killed her husband to stop him hurting the child.

Anyone else think hanging is barbaric?

@@susanmccormick6022 There's no kindly way to execute a person. Maybe the cup of hemlock gives the condemned a little sense of control.

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“Who knows if she was the killer.” There’s no doubt that she was the killer. The blood in the cabin they shared, bones in the fireplace. The real question and only question is whether she killed him in self-defense. As you stated, women were abused quite often back then, and even while most of them lived with the abuse, there were changes in society at this time. Women were beginning to fight for equity and rights in both society and their home.

Sometimes the trial wasn't fair and they were executed anyway or they just disappeared and never seen or heard of again

The district attorney-investigator suspected she was completely innocent, for many good reasons. But because she confessed to the crime he had no choice but to arrest & try her. (Frankie's cabin, where she lived with her husband, was half a mile from her parent's homestead. The D.A. believed she had run to her father for help the evening her husband threatened to shoot their crying baby. It was winter & cabin fever had made his violent drunken rage worse than usual. Her father & brother immediately went to her cabin to confront her husband. Whether his death was accidental or deliberate, don't recall. But they dismembered, burned & buried his remains. Afterwards, knowing both men would hang for the crime, leaving the family destitute without male providers, her Father told Frankie to take the fall for the murder. He convinced her that all would be fine - that a jury & judge would never hang a young girl who had a little baby to care for. Wrong. Her father gambled Frankie's life & lost. His last words to her meant, "Stay silent & save the family!" And she did. The proud but cold reality of pioneer mountain life in the 1830s.)

@@elmerbefuddled2156 Yes, back then far more than today, people were pushed into a false confession through various means of torture and threats.

@@___LC___ True, there were no legal watchdogs or technical means for preventing or recording law abuse. Re Frankie's father, he did care about her. Otherwise he wouldn't have so brutally punished her husband. And he did help her escape jail. He was also correct about public sympathy, in that few wanted to see her hang. People knew their neighbors & that there was likely more to her story than selfish cold hearted murder. Unfortunately the deciding magistrate was a traveling judge, like the D.A., & unfamiliar with Frankie's community. Because crime was so low in this district. In the end, her decision to confess was a sacrifice to ensure the survival of Frankie's mother & younger siblings; her father & brother. The story is sickening but people sometimes had to be harshly practical. Esp if they were poor. Frankie probably understood this, even though she was just a kid.

That’s what I was thinking! I was wondering why the cop over looked it. Also why didn’t Charlie’s dad find all that when he went to his son’s house just a couple days after he disappeared?

I'm pretty sure that evidence obtained without a warrant is not allowed in court. He was not "invited" in and saw the evidence, nor was he a Peace Officer. So, to support your argument, why would the judge allow this evidence in court, let alone allowing the "witnesses" to speak to each other and get their "story" straight! Total miscarriage of justice!... Just my opinion...

Thanks Deniese, I hope I did OK, It was a recommendation from a subscriber who lives very close to Kona :)

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Thanks for giving us a little more information Terry. It's such an interesting story.

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She would have struggled to move his dead body (they're heavy) and I wondered if that's why she dismembered him. I'm not sure that an 18 yr old woman would have had the stomach for such a grisly act. It'd be good to have more information.

Caroline R.....women back then were a different breed. She'd have had to gut, skin and de-bone animals that they hunted.....so I'm sure she could have done it to a human, no problem

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Frankie was my grandmother's name 😊

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The dad's last words to her sounds to me that he was telling her to not mention her family. An obvious implication of their involvement.

I think they helped her dispose of the body, I believe her story.

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Me too!!

What is the hosts name. I cannot find it anywhere

@@suzysimple6843 I think he keeps his identity concealed on purpose.

I helped my eldest daughter empty the bank and the house to move to my country house.

Well, Mister Rogers always said "wishing doesn't make it so", meaning that if it ever DID happen, it's not your fault for wishing it. I'm guessing prayer works similarly; you might have asked God, but it's His choice. Hope you've either found a more deserving man (or woman), or are reveling in your independence!

damn, glad you ended the relationship

The LORD said to forgive so people like you and I can be forgiven. Not saying it was right to what he was doing to you. That was wrong. But does to wrongs? Make it right? I personelly found out it doesn't. Using self as the example. I hope you were able to move on in your life, and meet someone who would be true blue to you and each other. The marriage bed was defiled. As it were. I can understand. Been through that myself. On several occations. I Pray your life is now happy and joyful. Sincerely, me (-:

@John Hicks inappropriate. Wrong place. Want to get on your atheistic high horse, go start a blog. If you want to discuss the case, or leave a friendly comment, welcome to the community. If you're just going to be a troll (as you have been to this point), beat it, you aren't welcome.

I saw that too. Her dad's words creeped me out.

Agreed. A great episode of Brief case, with the historical and social context to the time and location where the crime took place as well as the subjective prerequisites for the individuals involved.

I love that episode

You know some of those stories paint a really bad picture of them when their not I quit watching them, and Ms. Delong is getting way too deep in enjoyment in condemning them

@@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 I view Ms Delong (of the Deadly Women panel) as the "I told you so" kind of person. Quite a contrast compared to the medical panelist.

Yes, exactly I live in Morganton too. Have all my life..

I know the trial took place in Morganton, but sources I read sound like they lived nearer to Kona? There’s a pic online of part of the chimney of the cabin. It’s the only part of the home still standing. It looks like it’s out in the middle of the woods. I know this is odd, but I’d love to go see it.

We live around the border of Burke and Lincoln county. I normally play these videos for background noise while working, it snapped me to attention when i realized how close to home this was. The main Silver family home is still standing and habited and is under ongoing renovation. His pronunciation of Morganton got a chuckle out of me for sure.

Lived in Morganton most of my life as well. I was always told Frankie Silver was a relative, like a long line of cousins.

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She almost got away, but was caught at the border when a local Sheriff stopped them and asked her "is your name Frankie"? And her father, who must have been very stressed out, actually said "no sir *her* name is Johnny", thus blowing her cover. True story, sadly.

She didn't kill him, it was just put on her..her dad was a coward and let her hang in his place

Back then, they had no safety net, either. You married an abusive a**? Oh well. That’s your problem. He’s your husband, and he basically can do what he wants to you.

Is that victim blaming? .....cancelled!

@@grantwatt4559 ? it means the man was beating her, so she had to retaliate...

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So that's why the name seemed familiar! I've read it

@@lazyhomebody1356 Did you like the book? Have you read any of her other books in the ballad series? I highly recommend "The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter" & "The Rosewood Casket" both are from the series. Oh, we can't forget "The Ballad of Tom Dooley" Another good author is Sandra Dallas, "Prayers for Sale", "Alice's Tulips" and "The Diary of Mattie Spencer", the latter is my favorite by SD..

Those are really excellent books! I’ve read them all too. I especially love her Nora Bonesteel series.

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