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TheDsIEGE

TheDsIEGE

2 жыл бұрын

So, I could end up being completely wrong on this but... Given what I've seen replaying all the pertinent quests leading up to the new war I was pretty confident in what I feel will happen. And then this newest trailer hit and it sealed it for me. DE is pretty good about baiting and switching however, so, as I said I could be completely wrong on this but... I don't think I am. But what do you think?
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@thedemonpit
@thedemonpit 2 жыл бұрын
“Warframe is a buggy game at times” reminds me of how becoming a Tenno would break the archwing quest, I was lucky enough to record the beautiful masterpiece of a bug, now if only It didn’t have my 13 year old voice. If This shit gets 100 likes or is pinned I will put the dumbass clip as a reply.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Your move, my friend, lol…
@thedemonpit
@thedemonpit 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE While I never expected this to happen I did say I would, you win this round operator, so take the clip of an era long lost I do recommend lowering the volume due to my loud ass mic from my teens. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bsuAjcxhl8qsl4k.html
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedemonpit That was so worth it! Thank you for keeping your end of the bargain!
@thedemonpit
@thedemonpit 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE E
@MultiDarkZen
@MultiDarkZen 2 жыл бұрын
I have a picture on my steam page where my ship completely just glitched and its pretty funny
@h2amster328
@h2amster328 2 жыл бұрын
all I know is that I'm ready for some feels and imma try not to cry
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
You and me both. For all it's faults, the main storyline quests have been absolutely fantastic, so I'm just hoping this one falls in line with the rest!!
@Kazeshyn
@Kazeshyn 2 жыл бұрын
Though will be difficult not to cry I guess...
@akhannar9368
@akhannar9368 2 жыл бұрын
Resistance is futile. You will cry. We all will...
@austingritton4842
@austingritton4842 2 жыл бұрын
"False" checked by independent fact checkers. 😂😂😂
@ronald8561
@ronald8561 2 жыл бұрын
I like ordis
@DikariTheSavage
@DikariTheSavage 2 жыл бұрын
I think we will end up getting the lotus back but the way she returns to us will depend on a alignment choice. Moon gets Natah, Sun gets Margulis (Not actually real margulis because of jade light), and neutral gets Lotus.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
That would be VERY COOL! That's actually what I hope happens now, lol
@notsae66
@notsae66 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is almost exactly what I expect if we get a choice. Though I didn't take into account Margulis as a possibility and always thought it would go like this: Sun: Being emotional and impulsive, Sun Tenno would use the helm to brainwash Natah back into being the Lotus regardless of the potential unethical nature of doing so. They want mommy back and don't care how. Neutral: Able to accept and move past their own personal wishes, Neutral Tenno would kill Natah, seeing her as too much of a threat to the system and themselves to be left alive; she betrayed them before, she can't be trusted not to do so again. Moon: Ruthless and pragmatic, Moon Tenno would be willing to work with Sentient Natah, seeing more value in her power and knowledge than in petty vengeance or the emotional support of the Lotus. Much as they drank the Kuva for the potential resource it was, they would shake hands with the machine devil for her power.
@celestus87
@celestus87 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I hope.
@henrybran8904
@henrybran8904 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps this is what our alignment buildups from previous missions have been leading up to?
@LilBeaniebby
@LilBeaniebby 2 жыл бұрын
@@notsae66 eh i think neutral would chose the sentient lotus because theyd still accept her as the mother figure and moon will kill her since they seem to be the type to do so falling down a dark path, but remember theyll most likely give us the three choices like before so we aren’t forced into killing her
@ernonikkola1084
@ernonikkola1084 2 жыл бұрын
When Ballas extends his long hand palm up, he is transferrence-commanding (same with umbra to kill his son, as with Lotus to join her). Lotus did not leave us willingly, that is what she wanted to show us when she gave us the vision where we are there, but not acknowledged in any way.
@Megalomaniakaal
@Megalomaniakaal 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this assessment, that is how I, too, always interpreted that.
@DatBoiRatchet
@DatBoiRatchet 2 жыл бұрын
For a sec I thought you was going to say, when Ballas extends his long palm up, lotus would get pregnant 🤔
@naqueeldiva7693
@naqueeldiva7693 2 жыл бұрын
@@DatBoiRatchet Ayo?
@DytoxPrime
@DytoxPrime 2 жыл бұрын
@@DatBoiRatchet Huh? 🤨📸
@ovencake523
@ovencake523 2 жыл бұрын
im not sure if it was the lotus that showed us umbra, despite it being what the operator thinks. Its the man in the wall that we see wearing the lotus's helmet over and over again. he also led us to the other new war quests.
@PhenonIV
@PhenonIV 2 жыл бұрын
Caliban somewhat enforces a friendly sentient factions existence. Since he himself is mostly sentient and he can summomn friendly sentients I think it has something to do with the Lotus rising up against Era and destroying the antagonistic sentient faction, then establishing a friendly one to help the tenno
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! And I'll be rocking my Revenant during the quest just to show her that I'm willing to hug and make up, lol. Call it a peace offering!
@PhenonIV
@PhenonIV 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE I will back you up on that one!
@Mate397
@Mate397 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE I'm gonna keep my Sentient slayer in arms reach though, just to be safe.
@nycto5335
@nycto5335 2 жыл бұрын
Eh I interpreted it as the Warframe being made using Sentient tech in such a way to allowing it to control Sentients againts their will. Though yeah it could be a friendly faction I guess.
@suserano7566
@suserano7566 2 жыл бұрын
Was it not said that Caliban was erras experiment?
@Sonacnights
@Sonacnights 2 жыл бұрын
Been saying it since they showed the trailer on the stream. Lotus seems hurt, confused and concerned when the Tenno starts to stand in opposition to her. When she appears, her expression can be seen as potentially cocky, as if she is cornering the Tenno and knows it well, but when watching again, it seems more like relief. We're there, and alive, and she appears glad of that fact. So it wounds her when the Tenno prepares to fight back. She doesn't want to fight her child. Key thing to note is Caliban itself. It can summon friendly Sentients to assist in combat. Who do we know that could possibly make such a thing? Reb mentioned it was someone we know, so I immediately thought of our buddy Alad V, always tinkering at things unlike himself. Opening Warframes to see their hollow insides, playing with the infestation and most recently, striking deals with the Sentients to get a foot in the door and experiment on entire chunks of Sentient technology. We even see a massive portion of the Ropalolly in a tile used for Spy missions, so he would definitely be familiar with the inner workings, right? But then I noticed something.. Look at Caliban's design. The right knee, specifically. A floral pattern? Where else, in the entire game, do we see such a symbol so prominent? Who else, if given the chance to dream, not of who they are, but who they want to be, would grant their child the chance to fight her own kind *with* her own kind?
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! I think this is all leading to her coming back, and like I said in the video, I feel like many of us will be like "aaaahhh, now things finally make sense." Time will tell but you know where I stand on this.
@notsae66
@notsae66 2 жыл бұрын
It's also notable that Natah in the trailer has the Lotus symbol on her head piece thingy, whereas I don't recall that being there before. This could very well be, combined with her making a point to show it to us when we meet her, a sign that she's still on our side, she's still the Lotus.
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I completely missed this. I thought it was Alad V too. Chances are it is the Lotus. I doubt Alad V would be so "generous" as to do something like this.
@guns12396
@guns12396 2 жыл бұрын
@@daydreamdirty ya but the thing about Alad V is he holds no Allegiant, and he'll side with who ever he things is in the majority power in the system.
@PiscesAustrinus
@PiscesAustrinus 2 жыл бұрын
@@guns12396 But also thats the most reasuring thing about alad V, whe KNOW for a fact he will betray everything and everyone as long as that keeps him alive, if whe can prove him whe can win he will turn to our side almost imediatly and share all the info he can, funnily enought he might be one of our best friendnemies out there in the world
@notsae66
@notsae66 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, I just knew you'd have the most interesting thoughts on this trailer. Personally, I have very little doubt Natah will be joining us as an ally; I just hope the fact we will then have a ally with intimate knowledge of Sentient technology, strategy, and even the ability to control lesser Sentients will factor in significantly. With her help, we could upgrade our arsenals and just about everything to a serious degree. Personally, I think Natah is going to defect back to our side and essentially create a splinter faction of friendly Sentients. This would also explain how we steal Caliban and how he can summon friendly Sentients; Natah helped us take him over and he's summoning from her faction. I kinda wonder if Robolotus hasn't been a front for Natah the whole time; controlling technology is entirely within the Sentients wheelhouse, and taking over her own hologram to keep guiding us despite being mindcontrolled/under deep cover seems like something she's do. It would explain why the fake Lotus is able to so perfectly replicate and seemingly even predict the actions and opinions of the real Lotus despite reacting to events the real one never encountered. If Natah hacked and took her over, these responses and even the brief reveals of her true form would make sense.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty much exactly what I think too! Great minds think alike, yes? What I'm excited about is that VERY SOON we're gonna find out!!!!
@notsae66
@notsae66 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE Indeed! One way or another, we'll have the answers to our questions in less than two weeks. So excited, even with tempered expectations! I am perhaps even more eagerly anticipating your break down and analysis of the New War than I am the actual quest!
@Grim_Blade
@Grim_Blade 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing all of this again. Is really making me emotional, but I do have a feeling that we the Tenno and Sentience which is the most dominant power faction at the moment working together to try and get peace across the system. Warframe storyline is really well done so far so yes I am excited to see The New War cause I want answers and not guessing on what is the true meaning behind everything that Lotus do, but since the Ropalolyst fight even I can say that it is "kinda hard" so it make sense that lotus are preparing us for something much stronger and worse aka Era
@LilBeaniebby
@LilBeaniebby 2 жыл бұрын
Nah robolotus is ordis, he explained when she left he copied her prior transmissions from her to replicate her so we didn’t feel lost, though she can hack and control wave lengths it wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility if it wasnt for the fact the sentients have her under control with the only way of her sending us messages were through cryptic messages (her repeating numbers asking for help in the one event)
@wolfhound146
@wolfhound146 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that I noticed watching the The New War : The Maker chapter that Erra is trying his best to control Lotus. The dynamic I get is that Lotus is nothing more than a weapon he has to sweet talk and gaslight to keep on his side to try and utilize her power. Another thing at the end is if you notice at the very end when she's charging up her attack the expression on her face is not focus or a face of effort. It's a face of pain. This could also indicate that to use her power means every time she expends her own life to do it. It could also be mental anguish as well. I see her not even being seen as a part of her "family" as an equal, but a puppet and weapon. Erra talks to her like she doesn't even matter to him or doesn't care what she wants. All he cares about is to keep fighting and continued bloodshed. Who knows he might even remember Balas. I think personally that at the end when she was charging her attack that Erra was the one who received it. No more Mother, no more Hunhow and now no more Erra. The Sentients now solely follow the Lotus and they fight for her as she helps us. Ultimately I think we all need to think of the possibility as well Lotus might not make it in the end. She could be expending the last of her energy to help us. She said herself she is dying. Lastly I watched the cinematic for The Sacrifice and for a moment Erra speaks through Balas. Looking at the image of Natah floating behind Lotus could this also indicate that Balas is in fact Erra and vice versa? Is Balas Erra's humanoid body? Or did he simply kill or perhaps enslave Balas and he simply wears him like or suit or controls him? In either case does this mean the Orokin are a machine based people? It raises many questions. Specifically Erra says. "Lua brings you strength Umbra- - -". Then he switches to the Balas voice saying 'but you cannot defy your creators.". What does this mean? I wonder even could Umbra be the real Balas? One of the first attempts to gain a humanoid body? In this case the Orokin inside effectively becoming a battery as the Sentient controls the warframe. Could Umbra later be used against us? Is Umbra a prototype Sentient warframe? Finally what could this mean for Stalker? He looks very similar to Umbra. Could Stalker be the perfect or the failed creation?
@adamwhite6530
@adamwhite6530 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear your thoughts on this. I think DE will allow players to have their cake and eat it, with the "lotus" persona dying, while some combination of Margulis/Natah is revived to take a similar role. I think the Lotus knows she is losing herself (to corruption, to age or simply influence) and so she has become like that one heroic character in a zombie film that gets bitten, working for the good guys while letting everyone know they will die, turn and have to be put out of their misery. At the end of the quest, we could battle the lotus, only to then awaken a truer form of our space mum afterwards... I know, a wild guess... just nice to be back at a stage where there is so much story upcoming that we can speculate on.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're right, and the more I think about it, that glitch showing the sentient natah is probably the form she'll take from this point on. After watching my own video, it occurred to me that it looks much different from the one we see in the ropalolyst fight, so someone had to have created that new variation of her sentient form. Time will tell...
@adamwhite6530
@adamwhite6530 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE and then there is the Stalker, which DE has really downplayed, despite getting a mention on the official Warframe New War page... your previous videos on him have me extremely excited for what he could do, though worried his importance might be reduced down, to promote the other enemies...
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE i believe lotus is the amalgam of natah and margulis. This is why we see her again when the amalgam were created. I mean ballas and hunhow have worked before together as we see in the secret messages they were sending to each other in the sacrifice. I think Natah was the sentient that was later modified with margulis memories into a New creature, the lotus. This is why she probably says that she destroyed Natah. She is what can out from a deach sentient and a dead orokin. And the first time she ever accepted her new nature was when she made the decision to not release the final sequence. This is why her being Natah currently makes little sense. She had already accepted that Natah was her past. That she had betrayed her family to obtain her dream. So from the moment she betrayed us i speculated she was being manipulated. Also I do believe the current Erra is hunhow using his dead son's body.
@LegalMikel
@LegalMikel 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamwhite6530 hopefully its worth the new war was supposed to come out like 3 or 4 years ago with that start of the apostasy prologue
@bokitheemperor9962
@bokitheemperor9962 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like its not possible for the natah transmissions to be a glitch. The model used in these transmissions is completely different than the one used in her dialogue during the ropalolyst and orphyx fights. The old one is a lot darker and more black?, whikst the new one has a red glow to it
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Yep they are different, but even I didn't notice it until watching my own video, lol... I think you're right. This will be her new form moving forward...
@olocutor6990
@olocutor6990 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE Her voice is also different when that happens. Like if it had a some kind interference.
@bmobmo6438
@bmobmo6438 2 жыл бұрын
I've been predicting this for years. Ever since Apostasy Prologue came out, when I saw that we still had CephaLotus as mission control I knew she was coming back. And yes, she was never meant to be gone this long. Apostasy came out at the end of 2017, The Sacrifice came out mid 2018, Chimera in late 2018, and The New War was originally supposed to come out Christmas 2019. My guess is Erra and The Maker were also on the original schedule, slated for sometime in early-mid and mid-late 2019 respectively. It was only supposed to be 2 years. That then got stretched into 4 because [DE]lays are inevitable, and then covid.
@LegalMikel
@LegalMikel 2 жыл бұрын
took 4 years to release the new war update hopefully its worth
@henrybran8904
@henrybran8904 2 жыл бұрын
It's also worth remembering that the lotus sent us on the path to finding umbra, that wasn't a prompt from the man behind the wall. and as for erra being alive, i think they've long since answered that, orokin kuva restores sentient regenerative abilities we learned that from the gara story. Maybe part of ballas' Betrayal included giving erra or other sentients access to large amounts of kuva. Perhaps erra was actually destroyed in the reservoir encounter in the old war, but was able to regenerate his parts, because he had kuva already.
@matthewtygert1053
@matthewtygert1053 2 жыл бұрын
Part of my theory: the Lotus was the first amalgam. At the end of the Old War,, Ballas sought to invoke Margulis' continuity and bring her back to life, and he decided to use Natah as a host. But it didn't work. In stead of Margulis' personality overriding Natah's, the personalities merged. Natah's piousness and devotion to family mingled with Margulis' compassion and sympathy for the Tenno: the Lotus was born, a psychological amalgam of Natah and Margulis. In Apostacy, Ballas had found a way to disentangle the two personalities, and Margulis went away with him. But at some point, the Natah identity re-emerged and took over. My guess is the Man in the Wall intervened somehow: in Chains of Harrow, the Lotus was convinced that the Man in the Wall was nothing but a delusion of poor Rell's, but when we fight the Ropalolist, Natah says she has seen "the walls other face;" she knows he's real. mitw is behind EVERYTHING, the moment we find out about him, boom, the Lotus is taken away. Not a coincidence. My guess is that all this will be revealed, there will be a not just a truce but an alliance (hence the Sentient Tech warframe) and we'll pivot to the real enemy, while Natah advices us as the Lotus would, until she figures out who she wants to be.
@ERBanmech
@ERBanmech 2 жыл бұрын
That would explain the plains of duviri in the future of the game. Finally going to fight or confront the man in the wall on his own turf.
@cymorilbinder9741
@cymorilbinder9741 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping we get to boss fight Natah, which will free the Lotus. That way, people get their loot and their big showdown. I don't want the Lotus back, but I do hope we part in peace. Maybe she goes back to Tau as the new leader of the Sentients. Or, maybe she goes back to fight her brother / father with her followers. I hadn't thought about a sentient divide before you mentioned it. Sounds like it would be really interesting!
@Megalomaniakaal
@Megalomaniakaal 2 жыл бұрын
She might head the new faction in Tau when we finally get there.
@Tabby3456
@Tabby3456 2 жыл бұрын
I feel as if Margulis is going by the saying "Keep your friends close, and your enemy's closer"
@dreameater7777
@dreameater7777 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy idea, ( Also Spoiler warning for any new players ) in a previous video you pointed out that The Unum is also referred to as "The Wall" this has me thinking what if the Unum was somehow blocking out the man in the "wall" or trapping him, and its destruction in The New War could release a threat Beyond anything the system has ever seen! What if the tenno and sentient ally to fight a new threat? Or if the Man in the wall finally possesses some Tenno fully and a tenno war begins?? Lol
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty 2 жыл бұрын
This will come into play because it was directly apart of the trailer. It's just a matter of when.
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 жыл бұрын
I think that allying with the stalker is more likely than that.
@Numeriku
@Numeriku 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, if that was the purpose of the Unum then the whole Chains of Harrow quest + Rell didn't need to exist, and we'd never get visited by Wally afterwards. Rell was the sole being keeping it contained. The Unum on the other hand is probably where Kuva is sourced from--something that the Sentients desperately want. What is curious however is how a Murex manages to body slam the tower when the Unum apparently has the ability to render all hostile weapons, ships, comms etc dead.
@lucaswilliams2292
@lucaswilliams2292 2 жыл бұрын
@@gkarak1996 haha he is gonna be an ally in the new war. Sometime in act 2-3, he was mentioned alongside Kahl Teshin and Veso
@shad03void99
@shad03void99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Numeriku Think of it like someone trying to stab you verses a knife falling and hitting you. One you can often see clearly and do your best to avoid/fight back. The other is out of your control and sometimes even seeing it doesn't help if it's barreling towards you. Also in this scenario the knife wielding maniac is the Grineer and the Unum is a person with a gun. And the 'knife falling' is the equivalent of a maniac with bombs strapped on their chest with the kinetic equivalent of a nuke.
@bjarnivalur6330
@bjarnivalur6330 2 жыл бұрын
10:20 I never noticed that the Warfraim stands up during this cinematic.
@ar3klis
@ar3klis 2 жыл бұрын
given to how often missions get turned into extermination missions, I'd say this is the most clear when synth-lotus' inner ordis is showing
@blvckl0tcs750
@blvckl0tcs750 2 жыл бұрын
not tru as you arent taking into account major cinematic questlines hold a vastly different amount of weight
@ar3klis
@ar3klis 2 жыл бұрын
@@blvckl0tcs750 how? are you sure it is here that you wanted to write this?
@scotth4713
@scotth4713 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still of the impression that Balas found her location and "tricked" her into coming with him. His records show designs of the suit she's wearing, so that suit was his plan all along. Lotus may have agreed to go with, playing the part of Margulis, hoping to sus out his plans, not knowing the prison he had in mind for her. Now she's trapped and trying to find a way out. Still, great video as usual. Great to see you here. :)
@azurengamer9392
@azurengamer9392 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely Ballas is playing some multi-dimensional chest moves here, Ballas is many things but a fool and a pawn he ain't, this whole war could be an elaborate set up to get control over the Sentients, kill lotus/Natah, break the Tenno, and possibly bring the orokin back, all these could be possible given his intellectual and scheming nature.
@scotth4713
@scotth4713 2 жыл бұрын
@@azurengamer9392 I wonder if Ballas got played at his own game. We see him being turned into a sentient. I doubt he wanted that.
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty 2 жыл бұрын
Considering what she did to him…. Yeah I think this is quite possible
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty 2 жыл бұрын
@@scotth4713 he clearly said he wanted his perfect death- not to be who or what he is now.
@cagebusterjapan734
@cagebusterjapan734 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking for myself, I won't kill the lotus. It doesn't matter to me if she is good or bad, I don't care if it just her and me in the end. I still see her as my momma.
@AC-rx6fr
@AC-rx6fr 2 жыл бұрын
im gonna wake up and choose violence when this come out.
@fuckeduplad7571
@fuckeduplad7571 2 жыл бұрын
Ordis is enough for me to be happy, as long as i still have him its okay, but if i lose ordis then im gonna cry like a baby
@RedShadowOfSaturn
@RedShadowOfSaturn 2 жыл бұрын
The choice! Exactly! I've been saying that a lot as well...much like the end of War Within, where we had some choice in how to deal with the Queens, I REALLY hope we get a choice about what to do when we finally come face to face with Lotus. There seem to be tons of people on both sides of that divide, some want to kill her, others want to forgive and take her back. So hopefully DE leans into that....watching peoples' reaction videos to that moment would be amazing. But yeah, I do have a lot of faith in DE's creative and writing team that, while I think a lot of aspects of glitchy Purple Lotus were mostly oversights in mashing missions together and getting around recording new mission voice lines and code to replace Lotus being our mission handler, they could very well work that into the story somehow. I'm also really hopefully Stalker shows up in New War. The blurb on the website implies Hunhow and Stalker and Erra and all of them are banding together to fight the New War, so...I guess we'll see.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
He'll be there. They wouldn't have shown him during tennocon unless he had some significance. I'd love to find out more about him. as far as the choice thing is concerned... They haven't done it in so long that I'm sorta worried they decided against that method of story telling moving forward. Hopefully i'm wrong, but we're gonna find out!
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is that regardless of choise the big Sister dies. Here i don't think they can have the choise to kill or spare the lotus. Cause it not like she can revive after. It would create 2 worlds, one with lotus and another without her.
@RedShadowOfSaturn
@RedShadowOfSaturn 2 жыл бұрын
@@gkarak1996 By big sister, you mean, the female Operator in the cinematics? I mean, I believe there's a way to have a choice where to kill or spare her but still continue on. Ballas and Erra seem like they might be using Lotus, so while her fate might mean something to US, if they're just using her and she dies or gets exiled to the void or whatever else, THEY might leave her fate behind, and we get whatever final moments with her that we need. That said, though, it would be a more powerful moment if it's just linear and we kill her. I feel like sparing her might be a bit too easy of a story device, just slotting her back in as our handler, ya know? I want this quest to have far reaching changes to what experience day to day. If things just "go back to normal" after this quest, I think a lot of people will be disappointed.
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedShadowOfSaturn no. I mean the grineer queen. The big Sister always dies regardless if it is by your hand or by teshin's blade. As more lotus, they could make it so that she is weakened and we get her back but we put her on a recover unit indefinetely. She could return way later on but we could have her alive, just not present.
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedShadowOfSaturn also I don't think that her living ruins the experience. Having us face this situation and rebuilt our trust with her could be a Journey itself. We don't just go like " we save you! Let's be family again!". This would be a weird finale. Instead we fight her just as balls is probably planing from the start but neither of us dies, thus ruining balls plans. We get her alive but our bonds have already taken a Huge toll. While she recovers, the miatrust between us and her could be shown as we slowly rebuilt your relationship, from former slaves to the orokin to an actual family. It's an opportunity for healing, not more bloodshed.
@lewis18051
@lewis18051 2 жыл бұрын
That look was the main thing that made me really think after watching the trailer, it kinda seemed like she was surprised the Tenno decided to blast her
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I feel like she's going to reveal everything right before the tenno shoots...
@celestus87
@celestus87 2 жыл бұрын
Guys... why are you so sure that the Tenno is preparing to blast... her? There are about 1000 more targets in the room and the tears could be because of the stomach wound. *thinks in paranoid*
@lewis18051
@lewis18051 2 жыл бұрын
@@celestus87 those tears don’t start until she looks up at the end
@arg_9584
@arg_9584 2 жыл бұрын
Wooohhooo, so glad you made a video on this. The anticipation these past few years has gone overdrive and now we’re here
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
It's a long time coming but hopefully it will be worth the wait! I've even been grinding deimos recently and I can't stand that place, so my excitement can't get any more intense! Hope you enjoy the vid!
@SAEED69420
@SAEED69420 2 жыл бұрын
Duuuude, been waiting for this video👀 really wanted to hear ur thoughts on the trailer... thanks for the content siege, hope youre doin great!
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're here and hope you enjoy it! Although I'm super excited, I'm still in the cautiously optimistic camp. Just hoping this quest delivers as I think Warframe as a game could use a win. Hope you're doing well, and are ready for the new quest!!!
@SatinChicMirror
@SatinChicMirror 2 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to see the (probably) multiple video you will upload about the New War.
@spear401
@spear401 2 жыл бұрын
I've always really enjoyed your dissection of the Warframe lore. Keep it up!
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@itsascendingfr
@itsascendingfr 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this.... you are the warframe channel i watch the most
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I hope you enjoyed it!
@Ansixilus
@Ansixilus 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a persistent theory for quite a while now to reconcile all the available evidence: Natah claims during the Ropalolyst fight that she was lied to, that she was made into the Lotus against her will by the Orokin, her memories altered. When Ballas disconnected her during the Apostasy prologue, she seemed surprised at his identity. We saw a memory of Erra seemingly being killed during the Old War, which Lotus-Natah's memories and Varzia's testimony seem to corroborate. Erra's reappearance with the Scarlet Spear only happened *after* the Lotus was turned into Natah, and after Ballas was taken to the Sentients and hybridized. Ballas was in charge of and responsible for the creation of the Sentients in the first place. Ballas is a tricksy bastard at the best of times, and a manipulative betrayer of the highest order when pushed. After throwing Natah onto the throne to activate the beacon, Erra releases Ballas' leash, implying that they were putting on an act for Natah's benefit. Ballas, shifty punk that he is, can clearly manipulate and create advanced Sentient or Orokin tech, as seen during Chimera prologue. He is also skilled at switching sides, and playing both sides against the middle. Erra in the past made a big deal about family. Erra of the present seems not to have cared much about family, only troops and warriors. So, all together: Lotus-Natah's memories were altered at some point; either she was made into the Lotus unwillingly, or she was made back into Natah unwillingly, or possibly both. Ballas, a trickster and manipulator, was modified with Sentient tech, and still had the skills and freedom to create further tech unobserved. I think, call me crazy but, I think that Ballas reconfigured Natah in honor of his beloved Margulis, and used Natah's desire for family as the basis for the Lotus upholding Margulis' work with caring for the Tenno. He used her and them to finish off the Orokin, the same way he used Hunhow to try to deal with the Tenno. Then, in the current era, he "freed" the Lotus, returning her to the Sentient fold so that they could use her against both the Tenno and the current system inhabitants (and based on the Ropalolyst fight and the Amalgams, she's doing that well enough). He created a copy of Erra as a puppet, or *possibly* (I don't put much weight of confidence on this) modified or convinced (and then secretly modified) the surviving Erra into playing the part to manipulate Natah. This theory, as best I can tell, reconciles all that we've seen, explains the discrepancies in Erra's and Ballas' behavior, and seems in keeping with the Lotus: for the thousands of years we've slept, she kinda didn't do much to fix the origin system. She clearly could have, just with human spies and blackmail, given how she uses human operatives. But she didn't. As if she had been waiting, all this time, for a directive, an order, something more than "care for the Tenno". Only after that had been tipped into "the Grineer are a threat to the sleeping Tenno, they need to be awake to be protected" did anything in the system change. Possibly, this was what reminded Ballas that the Lotus even still lived. And now, he tried to reclaim her. Possibly, he hoped that after becoming Natah, she could be made into a better facsimile of his beloved Margulis, or possibly he didn't expect what returning to the Fold would do to her. Either way, he definitely wasn't expecting his death and reincarnation as a chimera, but he worked with it, doing whatever he did to or with Erra now that he was on the inside. Which leaves us with Ballas the manipulator, maybe-Erra who is maybe a huge combat threat or maybe a pushover, and Natah-Lotus, who probably is under some kind of unwilling control. Even if her feelings were manipulated, they could well have grown to be real... or real enough. It seems to me that Natah-Lotus has never chosen *anything* for herself. She was bred to be an infiltrator, spy, mimic, and she was. She was made into the Lotus, to care for the Tenno, and she did. She was made into Natah, to be a weapon of vengeance, and she seems to be. How poignant would it be for us to weaken her enough to free her from her latest control, and give her the freedom to do what she's never had the chance to: choose for herself. How would it feel for us to give her the first real choice she's ever even had in her millenia of life... and she can choose willingly to return as our mother? I'd like to say I hope for this ending, but unfortunately I'm pessimistic about DE's story writing quality. I also thought that it would be cool if Grandmother Entrati was the only one who remembered her own original name, but they shot that one down, so...
@gionharis13
@gionharis13 2 жыл бұрын
@2:34 Aaaaaaa That's bring back memories... Wait.... What??? Beautiful video as always Hope you're doing good Stay safe brother Swazdo-lah
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
There she is! Margulis! I believe that's the first time we've seen her in game, yes? I'm glad you enjoyed it and it's good to hear from you! Not long now before we finally get this quest, are you excited?!?!
@gionharis13
@gionharis13 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE words would come out, but one will be in trouble... So... A tool invented for one porpoise. suddenly it learn other means. the user lost over control. Dismantle, demolish, discard ...
@Imsleepeebruh
@Imsleepeebruh 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for you to upload your take on this :D
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@Imsleepeebruh
@Imsleepeebruh 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE on point as always man. I feel like many of us will want to spare her, but now that we know she was literally made to infiltrate and destroy from within, it'll be hard to trust her.
@chintex_
@chintex_ 2 жыл бұрын
Im pretty exited for new war. Finally some story development.
@Apstergo
@Apstergo 2 жыл бұрын
Its been a long time sence we had a lure heavy quest and now seeing this trailer gives me the chills
@CelestialDraconis
@CelestialDraconis 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but what cutscene is 5:28 from? I haven't played Warframe in almost 2 years and have been out of the loop. Maybe I missed that quest.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
That's from the dev stream showing the new war.
@CelestialDraconis
@CelestialDraconis 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE oh! Thank you
@gamehoodme6300
@gamehoodme6300 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back my friend. I was waiting for your take on the trailer and you didn't disappoint. Much love 👍
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Can't wait to do the quest, heck I might even have to dust off the streaming stuff and play it live!
@gamehoodme6300
@gamehoodme6300 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE hek yeah , btw i think Margulis will has a significant role in the new war cause they put her in the trailer, maybe she will be the new lotus who knows 😉.
@aggammer3485
@aggammer3485 2 жыл бұрын
Something that i have noticed is that both in the sacrifice (on the umbra cutscenes) and the new trailer cinematic all sentients have the white/red pattern of the mimics, and Natah is the most powerful of the mimics so there is a chance that she commands a small army of mimics, additionally calliban (a warframe) also has that white/red pattern and he is obviously playable, so perhaps sentients of that pattern are potentially allies?
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like that a lot! Could very well be and that's an awesome observation!
@TheFusionSong
@TheFusionSong 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Siege! I wanted to provide a theory that I had thought up for awhile that I think the trailers support and strengthen. In sum: Margulius is not dead, and Ballas is in Lotus' plan. Obviously from the above, if I am correct, will shatter current understandings of past events. We know that the Orokin can perform the Continuity to transfer themselves to a new body. But we don't know a lot on the restrictions if any, but we do know that the body does not need to be Orokin. Theorically, it could be a Sentient one. We also understand that Kuva can be used to revive Orokin as with the Grineer Queens. What I am suggesting follows to the fact that the Sentients can have many parts to them that can act separately or be removed from their body. I say this in relations to Lotus' Helmet. Based on what we know about the sentients, it is unlikely Lotus needs that helmet, considering her ability to "sing". Instead, I think it is a shard of her that Margulius performed the Continuity on to stay alive and avoid the Jade light. This would mean that Natah had become the Lotus before the execution and had the help of Margulius to do everything she needed to protect the Tenno. It may explain why she knows so much and why she takes offense to Rell's supposive outcast as Margulius is inside her. As still a fragment of Lotus, they can still communicate even now which would explain the mission dialogue being so good. The helmet is Lotus' backdoor to us. It also explains why Margulius is in the trailer. We are not timetraveling, she's still alive and probably can perform the continuity on a sentient mimic to get her "body" back. And Margilius inside of her would give Lotus a fighting chance to resist the reprogramming of her family and still be on our side. She might be outright immune. Now, if Ballas knows that Margilius is alive, we know he would do anything for her. It might have been their plan from the beginning since Ballas can place transference bolts. Margilius has deep knowledge of transference and the Sacrifice shows that non-Tenno can use transference. That execution could have been on a surrogate body. It also would show how Ballas fits in this picture and why he was so easy to defeat at the end. Because he wanted to "die" so that Erra would follow their duo plan. And Balla's sematics both then and in the Sacrifice would be a huge show. We know Ballas can lie better than the Devil himself and can be cutthroat. This would not be outside his expertise and something Lotus can count on. Ballas is selling to Erra that they can be allies so that he can be betrayed twice. With this huge plan, Lotus basically wants to guarantee that we will win because her family are the only ones that can deny her from being the Lotus. Ballas wouldn't want to. Margilius shares the same goal as she does. Lotus knows the Origin system is the Sentient's home and that they would return eventually. She built this plan to bring over as much of her kind as possible and cull the rest. This also works neatly with the idea of a Tau system expansion as we could travel through a Sentient civil war. Awesome video too! Req.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Damn!!!! This is really good and could absolutely be what's happening! Very very interesting and something I personally did not even consider! I suppose we're gonna find out real soon, but that's an excellent theory! I wish I would have thought of it, lol...
@TheFusionSong
@TheFusionSong 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE The best part that I forgot to mention is about Parvos, Nihil, Alad V, and such and how they fit in. My thoughts is that this all cumulates into a battle of wits between Lotus and the Man in the Wall. As Rell, she's in a battle with him too. And her face might show her realizations that he won. [Grammar Edit]
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFusionSong i think want we see in the trailer is our Mother in the zariman-10 before the void incident.
@TheFusionSong
@TheFusionSong 2 жыл бұрын
@@gkarak1996 Unlikely as we demonstrate our void powers in that scene. Meaning our parents are dead.
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFusionSong it's a recup. Plus it looks like a room for a Child. Also margulis would be blind. She was blinded very early, on her first encounters with the Tenno.
@Spitfire__1944
@Spitfire__1944 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you got me hyped
@robertxavier7565
@robertxavier7565 2 жыл бұрын
Legit yesterday I searched you up after I watched the trailer I thought you weren’t going upload I was wrong.🥲
@kylegivens3120
@kylegivens3120 2 жыл бұрын
Your Orbiter's interior colors are exactly the same as mine. I appreciate your taste in aesthetics.
@olocutor6990
@olocutor6990 2 жыл бұрын
When I received this "transmission" from Natah in the middle of a mission, her voice had a lot of interference, so I don't think it's a glitch
@canadiangopnik7007
@canadiangopnik7007 2 жыл бұрын
*Mentions Ballas and Nihil when talking about surviving orokin* *The Entrati, who we interact with daily: sad infested noises*
@the_linguist_ll
@the_linguist_ll 2 жыл бұрын
What I want: Moon: Natah Sun: Margulis Neutral: Ordis takes over
@deathisgone4912
@deathisgone4912 2 жыл бұрын
After a year. And seeing this coming out soon in a few days excited me big time.
@JS-tr2xi
@JS-tr2xi 2 жыл бұрын
Man this month of December is going to blow me away. Halo Infinite campaign, New War, and Spiderman NWH all this month.
@etrionas7137
@etrionas7137 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully presented.
@lorkhan3488
@lorkhan3488 2 жыл бұрын
For me it was her eyes in that scene we got. Thoses eyes speak of pain... I'm sure that she got manipulated by the sentient. Or that she knew her kin would destroy everything so she had to protect us. She's makes me think of Paarthurnax. "What is better ? To be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort ?”
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s further complicate this by forcing her into more and more roles. 🙄 All bad jokes aside, this is going to give just as many questions as answers I suspect
@ErrorhIL
@ErrorhIL 2 жыл бұрын
damn man, in the last days I fell down your rabbithole and you almost made me think DE knows what they are doing with the warframe lore XD Seriosly great job keep it going pal, hope in a week we all will get most of the answers we are looking for
@thewarriorcat3271
@thewarriorcat3271 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool things to think about Can't wait for the new war
@reeseronithemacaroni8946
@reeseronithemacaroni8946 2 жыл бұрын
the bug where she shows up as her sentient form on the left of your screen instead of ordis' purple garbled mess all but proves to me that she will become our ally again
@xenokratesoskuraz887
@xenokratesoskuraz887 2 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for years, the Sentients didn't just randomly decide, upon realizing the Orokin were going to be a violation to the existence of everything in the universe, to wage genocidal war. SOMETHING out there came into contact with the sentients and either terrified them into returning, or commanded them into returning. I have money on there being a force so powerful, it drastically dwarfs the Sentients as a threat, and the only thing that can stop it is that of the void.
@ajbalancedbreakfast8368
@ajbalancedbreakfast8368 2 жыл бұрын
The Void itself is a living entity that can manifest itself in the form of the Man in the Wall. It’s basically a lovecraftian entity that just messes with everyone for the hell of it. The giant finger relic used to power the reliquary drive of railjacks is a piece of one of the giant monsters hidden in the void. The sentients probably had to fight off these creatures during their trip to Tau, and considering the power of them is incomprehensible they probably had a lot of their kind die in the effort. So yeah, they’re pissed about being forced to travel to Tau. To sum it up, yes, there is a force larger than the sentients, and it’s confirmed in the lore and the game itself to the point where you can see part of it in your Railjack.
@tellmeninetails5819
@tellmeninetails5819 2 жыл бұрын
Mecha lotus is specifically a synthisized lotus, Basically he did a simarus and downloaded all her recordings so this lotus is an imperfect digital copy of the lotus based off her dialogue and data.
@arckon737
@arckon737 Жыл бұрын
And this is True XD Great job my man!
@Ridingthewaves305
@Ridingthewaves305 2 жыл бұрын
The look of disbelief and agony of the misunderstanding of intentions
@nidusprime4405
@nidusprime4405 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail I can see her expressions that she was expecting something else to happen
@josel3227
@josel3227 2 жыл бұрын
While I do think you're looking too deep into some stuff (like the "gift from the Lotus" naming), there is definitively some possibility for Lotus to come back to the side of the Tenno (from the tenno's perspective, not hers, I mean). However, I don't think she'll come back as our good and beloved mother immediately, I'd expect a redemption quest post NW for that. Other possibilities I see are her sacrificing herself to save us, she being the mastermind behind the rise of the sentients, and her being puppeted by someone else like Ballas' and have that be the final enemy of the NW. About the choice factor, keeping in mind this is a mmo, whatever it is, whichever the outcome, the differences would have to be matchable worldwide, so unless it's a we kill her/Erra or Ballas kill her/She kills herself sort of situation, where the outcome is the same and what changes is how we experience it, there is not gonna be a choice factor.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I do think a "kill/don't kill" choice would be very hard to implement, although not impossible. And yeah, I always look too deep into this stuff, lol... It's kind of the whole basis of the channel, but... It doesn't mean I'll be wrong! We'll see though, and VERY SOON at that!!
@josel3227
@josel3227 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE either way, I think the key here is that the status quo for the rest of the game has to be mantained throughout the players, so whichever the new status quo is, it has to be matched with the rest of the players' choices. It can't become a substancially different game for the rest of players based on their choice. That's basic game design. So whichever choices we get to do, have to deliver a similar outcome. Similar to how our "morality marker" from the other quests can't represent a huge change in the game between players. It can change quest-specific missions, but it can't drastically change the outcome post-quest
@tellmeninetails5819
@tellmeninetails5819 2 жыл бұрын
After the flashback she blinks and is no longer looking at us but next to/behind us. It's a very subtle eye movement.
@somebl3ach708
@somebl3ach708 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Caliban will be a key part of the endgame of this content drop, and as such I believe that an alliance between the sentients and the tenno is nigh impossible to not have. Maybe it is through Natah/Lotus, or maybe we ally with them by ourselves?
@lordvanazir1007
@lordvanazir1007 2 жыл бұрын
Remember what lotus tells us during second dream "Dream. not of what you are, but of who you want to be" I think that's our biggest clue.
@SuperMehring
@SuperMehring 2 жыл бұрын
That video intro was legendary
@nightsight85
@nightsight85 2 жыл бұрын
Hunhow: "You betrayed us. As I awake, so will they. They will say you are riven and want to reclaim you. I will not be able to stop them." It's quite possible she planned for that eventuality.
@zottestudios
@zottestudios 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you’re right, I want the lotus back as an ally! But I am gonna enjoy tearing my way through the sentients in the new war
@Zenith-zb8op
@Zenith-zb8op 2 жыл бұрын
I posted a comment about it on the actual trailer video, but did anyone else notice how at the very beginning of the trailer, when the New War theme is starting to kick in, there’s a hint of the Lotus’ theme trying to peek through for us to hear.
@Zenith-zb8op
@Zenith-zb8op 2 жыл бұрын
And then it does it again right before the Operator attempts to fire at her.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! In fact, I blended the music from the trailer right into the lotus' theme "this is who you are" and they are seamless. That has to mean something...
@Zenith-zb8op
@Zenith-zb8op 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE Aaaawwww sneaky man. I didn’t even notice that wasn’t part of the trailer until you said that
@MaddawgTL
@MaddawgTL 2 жыл бұрын
DE deliberately released the new natah/lotus mission briefing screen on the left side when in mission. They so much as said this and said it was not a bug or a fluke. Also you said exactly what I was thinking about a new faction lead by natah/lotus. It was the eyes that gave it away something else was going on.
@malith1321
@malith1321 2 жыл бұрын
I am extremely excited about the new war as well. I hope Lotus comes back to the side of the Tenno. A sentient /Tenno alliance would be really interesting. Along with the Orikin coming back and being the real threat they have always been portrayed as. That was a great video. thanks
@agrihonoberjorn1612
@agrihonoberjorn1612 2 жыл бұрын
Theory mar gulls was nommed by Natah as a cephalon to more accurately replicate her personality backlash was margulis was like a infectious virus warping natah into the lotus
@xboxslasher0666
@xboxslasher0666 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dsiege I know it's old but I would like to hear your opinion on the "void dragon" idk if you made a video on it I looked for onw but i didn't find one if there is I'm just dum
@damascusraven
@damascusraven 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love it if we got some upgrade for the Tenno themselves. Imagine if void blasts and amps were useful past lvl40 enemies besides arcane gimmicks.
@therealbasstard
@therealbasstard 2 жыл бұрын
this is like the plot twist from Screamers from PKD (the inner conflict of the sentients)
@GlyphicEnigma
@GlyphicEnigma 2 жыл бұрын
I always love your videos!!!!!! That being said, I've pretty much always believed the lotus to return eventually. Something just wasn't right with how she was taken.
@noahgarza6255
@noahgarza6255 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love these Warframe trailers
@nocturnal7474
@nocturnal7474 2 жыл бұрын
Predicts some 4d chess plot twists involving hunhow
@reganlau3491
@reganlau3491 2 жыл бұрын
Things also needed for the new war that they don’t tell you: Tissue for emotional pain
@635574
@635574 2 жыл бұрын
If helmet was the mind control device, she was only able to detach the cables half way but ba as snapped them off completely, and we can assume he was the one making the thing in the first place.
@MRx36000
@MRx36000 2 жыл бұрын
"I am dying" wOW.... Dead Space flashbacks just now! lol
@epistemophobia69
@epistemophobia69 2 жыл бұрын
i don't know how i think the specifics will play out, but one thing i am certain of is that caliban will be the product of the lotus' time back in the sentient fold, combining her knowledge of tenno, warframes, and sentient technology to produce a weapon that takes out erra
@sternritternovad
@sternritternovad 2 жыл бұрын
Well this is going to be interesting
@tipsy_hog
@tipsy_hog 2 жыл бұрын
Look... I understand, but I personally can't wait until I can turn her into a nice piece of gear
@maktiplayer1217
@maktiplayer1217 2 жыл бұрын
1. I think we are going to lose in some way because 2. Mysterious figure at the end of duviri paradox trailer sits like hangman from tarot card that represents isolation (Tenno might go to the Void to escape from Sentient) to gain new point of view to solve problem 3. Great video and stay safe
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like where you're headed with this. I'm just wondering when Duviri will actually come and if it's even the next major quest. I like that observation though and it would be like DE to use that as symbolism... I kind hope you're right at least about duviri. Truthfully, the tenno could also go into hiding to escape someone like Parvos Granum or maybe even the man in the wall?
@davidmccabe7831
@davidmccabe7831 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like once the update drop, this video bout blow up for trying to make connections to previous hints to what'll release
@f.a.f7697
@f.a.f7697 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good revenant fashion you got there
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
I love that skin!
@dreamlessking9
@dreamlessking9 2 жыл бұрын
great vid siege.
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!!!! Can't wait to see if I'm right!
@robncasey1216
@robncasey1216 2 жыл бұрын
I think I haven’t played this game in 4yrs…and now I’m gonna have to download it on 12/16. DAMN YOU DE!!!!
@primeosiris3750
@primeosiris3750 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna know your thoughts on Caliban. On the new war website it calls Caliban ‘Erra’s twisted masterpiece’ I wonder why Erra would make a warframe. I’ve seen theories that it is a trap, made to hold the Tenno for use as a power source.
@aravinds3846
@aravinds3846 2 жыл бұрын
I used to say that Ballas is Caliban when the concept art came out. With Caliban’s description stating that Erra made him I think it’s more plausible
@tacticalpacklimbo129
@tacticalpacklimbo129 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because it’s a frame he made and he can probably spy
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@dirtprime1379
@dirtprime1379 2 жыл бұрын
I'm already waiting for it with my Lotus operator mask :)
@matthewmartinez3550
@matthewmartinez3550 2 жыл бұрын
So, here's a bunch of small lore tidbits from the New War page on the official site: 1. Erra made Caliban as a weapon for the New War 2. Venato, Caliban's Scythe, is made from the limb of a fallen Eidolon 3. Hunhow is part of the leading Sentient force. Not sure if that was common knowledge, but I personally wasn't sure if he was alive or not before seeing this. 4. Stalker is involved with the war. 5. The site wants you to question both Natah's and Ballas's loyalty to the Sentients. I have two possible theories in regard to Natah: Theory one - Lotus was manipulated: Ballas has been working with Erra and Hunhow to make Lotus believe that the Tenno deceived her with false love. The big climax will be Natah witnessing our agony over being forced to face her and realizing that she has been tricked. I'll also fit in Ballas's conversation with Dax Umbra and theorize that perhaps he knew that Natah would turn against her kind again. Ballas hasn't finished his plan with Hunhow, and now we see what exactly he is doing. Theory Two - Natah and Ballas are on our side: I still think Ballas isn't fully aligned with us, rather it is more helpful to him to work with us. He got what he wanted from Hunhow, now he just needs to cut ties. He needs the Tenno to fight the Sentients for him, and he has reached out to Lotus to resume her role as Natah to help guide us through facing them. Along the way, he did something to align himself with Erra. The trio has been secretly helping us. Ballas gave us a weapon to kill the Sentients, Erra gave us a Warframe and some of his warriors to be led by it, and Lotus has been guiding us through all this, just like she always has. Bonus Stalker Theories: A big part of the story will be focused on Stalker and Ballas. I believe Stalker will attempt to align himself with Ballas, and if Ballas doesn't reject him, we may see a new version of him. Stalker Prime maybe? Or perhaps this could be a turning point. Ballas could be the reason Stalker becomes more accepting of us, and the lore becomes that Stalker is sparring with us to keep our skills in check, using new gear to test us. Or maybe, he's still Hunhow's puppet, and Ballas gives him a new Orokin/Sentient Hybrid upgrade. Maybe Caliban was meant to be Sentient Stalker? (Second Dream spoilers ahead) Another option, if the end of Second Dream is meant to be that Stalker was freed from Hunhow's control, he could come to the Tenno in seek of mutual aid to save Ballas and Lotus. This may play into the idea that Ballas doesn't need saving, and is merely using Stalker as a pawn for his own goals. (You can probably tell by now that I hate Ballas as much as a lot of other people hate Lotus).
@aravinds3846
@aravinds3846 2 жыл бұрын
another theory you might want to add is Caliban is Ballas as a warframe. I mean look at his legs, he summons sentients, fits the arrogant creator punished by own creation trope, and he is the only Orokin the sentients have and also the only one with knowledge of both Warframe and sentient creation.
@arturotorres5663
@arturotorres5663 2 жыл бұрын
You and me are thinking the same way i also want the choice i guess all will be revealed in december 15th i guess the wait is over and we will wait a little more until the aformentioned date
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
We've been waiting for so long, I almost can't believe it almost here! It's like I'm about to have christmas, and then two weeks later, more christmas!!!
@arturotorres5663
@arturotorres5663 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 yup!!!
@janovmi2
@janovmi2 2 жыл бұрын
what about the Entrati, they are also Orokin and yet your friends (have to be cuz you need necramech for teh quest), what role can they have, can they maybe have some influence on Lotus (in hope to mend teh Lotus-Teno family) maybe ?
@blvckl0tcs750
@blvckl0tcs750 2 жыл бұрын
the entrati literally guard the tennos life source and had pre warframe technology? we aren friends just cause necromechs. weve always had the longstanding aliance. i stg yall need a lore recap
@berryblast2919
@berryblast2919 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying my best to upgrade my gear as much as I can before New War is out. So. Much. Forma. Still looking for good mods to up my damage, anyone have recommendations for important mods? At least, anything rare or that I would gave to go out of ky way to get.
@danielendless
@danielendless 2 жыл бұрын
1:23 I remember this scene differently. Where's the cake?😅
@kittentamer2164
@kittentamer2164 2 жыл бұрын
I know what I want. Lotus and Ordis fighting alongside us.
@stevenarmstrong5467
@stevenarmstrong5467 2 жыл бұрын
It's a bad habit to leave a question unanswered when being a guest at one's table. _What is it that you desire?_ The void loves to ask that of all it's prey.
@vonrelevanz1963
@vonrelevanz1963 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to have a choice, just like in earlier quests. The ideal end of the new war would be if it were up to us if we save or vanquish her after a boss fight against either her sentient form, Ballas or preferrably Erra (whom I wanted to punch in what he has for a face since we first 'met', as it's hard to be more evil than Erra).
@TheDsIEGE
@TheDsIEGE 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! I suppose we'll see though, choices haven't played a prominent part in warframe for a long time now...
@ronger97
@ronger97 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE Well, I've thought about it for a bit and I think the choice would ultimately be pointless if given. Because think about it for a second. No matter what choice the PLAYER makes, The story going forward will only accept the death of Lotus/Natah. And that's simply down to how the story itself would be written going forward. You see, If we assume that one third of the playerbase chooses the "Kill" option, then for them Natah is dead and should stay dead to honor their choice. However for the other 2 thirds, her staying alive, they would ALSO have to have their choice honored...but they are mutually exclusive, they can't BOTH exist at the same time unless DE starts pulling out multiple universe/timeline stuff (Which they can, given whats shown of the Paradox so far, but lets assume for now they wont). So how is this compromised? Well I can think of only one solution...that even if natah lives as herself OR as the lotus, she is completely removed from all future story content to maintain her being dead for the other third. At the very best, shes put back in her role as the "Mission control" voice for the tenno, or she leaves of her own accord and is never seen again. But either way, if DE DOES give us the choice to kill or not to kill, they HAVE to write the story going forward following with the major points being she is "killed", as that's the only path that lets them compromise both sides.
@vonrelevanz1963
@vonrelevanz1963 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDsIEGE ... it's about time
@noirkami
@noirkami 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna entertain the idea of Caliban being the fully amalgamated ballas or something
@Chinhnguyen0497
@Chinhnguyen0497 2 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the warframe show
@thimovijfschaft3271
@thimovijfschaft3271 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've been thinking about it too: a War with the Sentients was inevitable, and there would be no way that we can beat them, not on our own, and not even with the help of the Corpus and the Grineer. Ballas could still be right that she manipulated everything. But purhapse she did so to prepare us for the war, and so that she can stop them from within.
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty 2 жыл бұрын
She did say that “now we fight on 2 fronts, a war from without and a war within.”
@randomuserame
@randomuserame 2 жыл бұрын
That boltor ragdoll gives me life though
@Shyy_Guyy
@Shyy_Guyy 2 жыл бұрын
You know, the sentients and tenno becoming might not be to far off especially since we're suppose to be getting a sentient warframe (im assuming) by the end of the new war who just happens to be able to summon up sentients
@Chse146
@Chse146 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, if you’re right about the orokin coming back as the bad guys I will lose my head, that would be so cool
@Strider30
@Strider30 2 жыл бұрын
The eyes change color and charge up with Void energy.
@atomicrc5189
@atomicrc5189 2 жыл бұрын
What sucks is i havent been able to see my operator or lotus (in any form) when they pop up, i can hear them but not see them :/
@ship_sickly4119
@ship_sickly4119 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the sentients and the tennos will make a aliance because we will get a sentient Warframe blueprint for finishing the New war Quest
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