Great comparison, was looking for that kind of review. Subbed! :) I will definitely be getting the T14 4750U for heavy work loads, having a thicker chassis is always better for thermals.

Man thank you for the review!

Excellent! Very helpful.

Great review -thank you !

Great information you have shared with us!

Lovely review David! thanks for all the Tiger Lake stuff, needs more coverage. One thought though, would it be possible to have a more lively and colorful wallpaper on the XPS? Should really try and show off that display ;) Thanks again!

Excellent content, many thanks. Liked 'n' subscribed.

Excellent review man, realized I can get away with the XPS 13 since I’m not really going to be doing any compute intensive tasks and portability is more important to me. Liked and subbed!

It's awesome that you divide the video in parts, so that we can jump right into what we want to see. Do you think the actual gaming results have anything to do with Intel's early drivers?

what a great rundown.

Great review! Would like to see the thermals when both machines are under load. Thermal issues can throttle cpu performance (especially when ran over a longer period of time) and that can explain the performance difference too! A lot of laptop reviewers don’t discuss that aspect, but it really has an impact on what type of experience users get when using these devices. Hope you can add that into your review!

great review! No regrets with my 9310 xps13 fhd sure I paid extra but no buyer’s remorse, everyone has different needs and preferences, Mash IT definitely helps you make an informed decision

Wow. Intel doing a Volks Wagen on the tests.

One other item that has become known is the machines will tune themselves over time based on the work done on them. So, if you compare two identical machines that have has a different workload you may get different results on the same benchmark. These are vendor choices when the processors are ordered from Intel that can make machines with the same specs perform differently with the Tiger Lake chips. It may be several percentage points.

Good review.

Future Ryzens should pretty much stomp Intel CPU. Ryzen is just beginning to enter the laptop market again, but this time with more strength.

I would love to see this review with todays models…but I know you already have a lot to review!

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Didn't catch it if you mentioned it, but the T14s would also be a good comparison because the XPS' weight advantage would be cancelled out, while the other factors you mentioned would still hold true (other than RAM upgradeability).

Great review! I can't wait to see next generation AMD mobile CPUs incorporated into next gen Thinkpad X1 Extreme. That laptop will likely be my next laptop :-)

Nice review although the comparison was between slightly different types of laptops. One a big business laptop and the other a small sleek thin one. The Intel one looks really snappy with all the applications opening really fast which is very impressive. Cinebench score is not so nice but I think this segment of people don't use applications like cinebench so it should be okay, but 500$ extra is the real deal breaker. But I think that's partly due to the premium form factor. Are there any other options from Tiger lake with a more budget friendly laptop? A little more bulky but not as bulky as the ThinkPad?

Thank you for this! I recently ordered a t14 but I'm tempted to cancel it and wait for the new x13's (they have a 16:10 screen!). Will you be reviewing that one?

What an amazing review man! Enjoyed it a lot! You get every point in the review so well, it’s a 28 min vid but feels like a 5 min vid. In my opinion thinkpad t14 is a better option. The dell feels exactly like a macbook for windows and the thinkpad is like a workstation which is what I prefer getting a laptop. Just imagine a laptop with the premium details on the xps, like his screen quality and the 16:10 inside a thinkpad t14 chasis with the t14 keyboard and with the good termals that it gets in a heavy work load, using a ryzen plus a lot of connectors including thunderbolt (for me the thunderbolt is not a big deal but I mean just imagine the laptop), and also with a better optimititzation on the battery life (that it’s obvius that both models have already an awesome battery life, buy I mean imagine a little bit more), and just put a good optimized graphic card (adapted to a proper great cooler system) for all kind of big works that engineers or machine learning professional have to do and BOOM you can imagine my perfect laptop for productivity, maybe just add a little bit of premium material on the chasis and that for me is the perfect laptop for productivity tasks.

This is my go to tech channel :)

My T14 Ryzen 5 finally came in the other week! Had the hardest time deciding between the R5 and R7 when I ordered. I don't do anything intense, but it's quiet and cool so no regrets. Glad to have avoided the rumored thermal issues with R7.

Thank you Mash for another amazing review and a marvelous comparison between two amazing machines. I just have one question: how can I decide whether a specific application is a multicore or a single core? I’m sorry if my question may sound some naïve but I frequently hear that comparison between Rison and Intel in terms of this issue.

One things that I've learned to appreciate with Lenovo is their overall reliability. This laptop is not only Mil STD 810g rated, I feel that Dell's have become rather buggy lately. The Dell XPS units we've got at my work as well as my partners Alienware frequently blue-screen, have issues with the GPU requiring reboots and other problems. Quite a few of the XPS machines also have charging issues. The Thinkpads I've used so far never had any troubles like these. My P53 hans't given me a single BSOD in months of usage and I rarely had to do a reboot because of issues.

you are so right, AMD CPUs are great, but no manufacturer give them the attention they deserve. I want to buy a high end good quality laptop with AMD cpu, but I can not find any on the market. so I eventually get one with tiger lake cpu, that is ASUS ux393ea. It is great, performance is ok, but I was hoping to get one with AMD cpu.

Maybe you didn’t noticed that but in the valley simulation gpu thermals of the thinkpad was 60% of xps’s.

Does the XPS has a fan noise I heard something in this 15:28

The XPS is definitely nicer looking.. However, I need all the ports. I like the better feel keyboard. I just wish the T14 had a much nicer display. The XPS is stunning! As far as needs the T14 is up my alley. I'm still on the fence and looking at other options

Thank you for a great review. But I’m so torn between between the Lenovo and the mackbook air m1 I’m used to both OS and pricing is pretty much the same, Do you have any advice?

I am planning for the T14 R7 . Could I do some video editing on it? Pls let me know. Would the R5 suffice ?Great video bdw

Definitely no regrets getting a ryzen thinkpad. This video proves you can get a great performance laptop without the hefty price tag while having all the premium features

Thinkpad specially S series and Dell Latitudes 7410 or 9510 are at the moment most complete laptops in the market. They just have all in one. What does one average and business individual needs from portable laptop 14 or 15 inch. Honestly 13 inch are not acceptable even 14 is a min limit for more then 2 hours of serious work

What do you think about the new lenovo Yoga 9i 15" please advise

Why was XPS 13 9310 capped at 15W during gaming? I think that was limiting the FPS.

21:03 This is what I found out too! I initially thoughts there was something wrong with the laptop, Intel benchmarks are misleading af!

I was surprised how Vega gpu outperformed the new Xe graphics. Aren't the games u're testing more cpu-heavy by any chance?

Fantastic review, thank you so much! Arguably the game comparo is not as GPU bound as a polygon heavy game like Crysis or something but nonetheless I wouldn't dream of playing GPU intensive games on an ultra book so I think this is a great real world use case on games you might actually play on an every driver type laptop. The Ryzen CPU really shines. Thanks again!

So basically what that tells us is Intel got desperate and started designing CPUs specifically to run high benchmark score.

I’m surprised you didn’t compare it to the new T 14 S, it’s much lighter and thinner and still uses the same Ryzen chip

All I see 8s better contrast and more details on the xps 13

I bought the t14 R7 and so far love it - yes, the fans are on most of the time when doing work (but I blame Visual Studio for beeing bad :P), but they are quite and you can feel the heat blowing from the side, so you know they are doing something. For all those considering T14 - the touchpad sucks. And it sucks a lot - for starters, it's not smooth. I noticed that I can hear my finger moving on it. Also, it has weird palm rejection algorithm, which causes it to ignore super small movements - you are actually better of using the track point to move the cursor slightly the side. On top of that, you know how you can press the whole touchpad to click? You can do it only form half height down. When you finger is above half, you have to tap or use the button above. Does it bother me? Not at all, because I have all the ports I want to plug in a mouse. I also have Dell XPS 15 with Xeon on my desk, and oh boy, it's funny. In Dell the fans are like a vacuum cleaner, and they are blowing at the screen. Not to the side, not to the bottom - at the screen. And you can't even feel the heat going out! It is constantly at 95+ C, very hot to the touch on the chasis. But, the screen and touchpad are next level. Keyboard is meh, especially compared to ThinkPad. I would say, if your boss is paying, you can treat yourself with Dell with USB-C dongle with all the ports (350$ on top of the laptop) and a premium feeling. If you are buying a tool, that has to pay for itself and last, take T14. It's super lite, feels weirdly solid in hand especially with how lite it is. And you can run in on your phone charger under full load thanks to the Ryzen processors.

Good review. Ive gone Thinkpad all the way, after owning the XPS and surface pro 7and alot more in this range :) Although Realistically, the XPS should be compared to an X series Thinkpad, like an X13 AMD, X395, or more premium X1 Nano. with this comparison, it makes the Dell look so much more expensive than Thinkpads. This is not true. If you compare the XPS to a X1 Nano, the dell would seem cheaper. The Dell Comparison T14 is an Inspiron, not an XPS. your comparing apples to phone chargers :)

I think the issue with your gaming result might be due to the power limit for the intel cpu. It has been reported that the Xe GPU only beats Vega 8 when the power limit is 25W++. I notice that in your Dota 2 benchmark, the xps sits mostly at 15W. Also, the power of the R5 is not reported, thus I am not sure what power it is running at. It might be a great idea if you can download Ryzen Controller and fix the R5 power at the same 15W for comparison.

how did you mange to get that spec thinkpad for £1000??

single core is very important even aftereffects runs single core when rendering.

XPS is on a level with the X1 series, while the T series is more like a latitude. That said, i prefer latitude, X1 or thinkpad T series over XPS just because they have much more ports and are not really heavier.

XPS maybe have less performance, but in term of portability the XPS sure win. If I want gaming I can build PC and easily outperform than all bulky gaming laptop

Can the Xe graphics run warzone?

I'm really liking the newer XPS designs. Unfortunately after my last run in with their "customer support", I promised myself I would never buy from them again.(basically lost $1500usd)Now I'm left with a beautiful laptop, with absolutely no sound!

would you please show us the XE MAX graphic performance?

I believe there is no laptop better then thinkpad.. I have the x1 carbon gen7 and I literally don't feel scared if it falls or anything. You can feel its built to last.. and best keyboard on the market.. I just wish they their screen becomes 16;10 and thinner bezel..

Need to compare to Thinkpad X1 Nano to be fair.

How can you compare the battery life of 2 different laptop by setting the brightness at 50%? Xps at 50% = 250 nits, thinkpad at 50% = 175 nits. Thats a 50% difference! And you should know that the screen is the component that require much energy in a laptop. So please, measure the nits, set the nits the same, and do again a battery test. You will see that the xps last much longer than the t14.

Could you please give review on ThinkPad L14?

I think Lenovo s540 “13 is the best comparison for the XPS. Ryzen 4600u w/ 8GB (600 pounds) or 4800u w/ 16GB (1000 pounds). Full aluminium body.

Does the T14's screen look smaller than a 14inch screen should?

The XPS seems to be bottlenecked by the CPU since the GPU usage is sitting around 80-85 percent on DOTA(Seems strange since the faster single core score on the intel means this shouldn't be heappenning)... also seems like Intel has to put in a lot of work for driver optimization. btw nice video

are the keys clicky?

Dell looks much more elegant than the comparatively rough T14. And the xps' screen looks more vivid too. Anyway, games' bechmarks, if confirmed when the intel driver will be a bit more mature, demontrate that the Xe GPU has been overhyped.

T14 or ideapad 5 AMD of course?

apples to oranges, thinkpad weighs nearly 20% more. Thinkpad might as well be a 15" laptop; also 500 NITS compared to 400 NITS, you pay extra for the better display and portability.

Thinkpad just likes old Dinosaurus. Pretty impresive throwing it to undstand how rouge is it.

Same weight. I’ll take carbon fiber over aluminum any day of the week. The biggest con job in the computer industry is aluminum thin and lights cost more than traditional laptops with more ports and upgradability. They are using aluminum as a heat synch not as a “premium” material and people fall for it.

You should compare it with lenovo flex

Intel 4800u all day!

So I received my XPS 9310 with this custom configuration: i7 1165G7 32GB LPDDR4X 256GB NVMe (Intended to be replaced by 980 Pro 1TB from Best Buy) 1920x1200 FHD+ InfinityEdge Touch Display Windows 10 Pro Platinum silver Dell ProSupport Plus On-Site 4YR I was initially pleased as I was quoted November 13th for delivery, but I got a much earlier than anticipated shipping notification that it was on it's way two and a half weeks early. I did not hold onto this machine for more than half an hour before rejecting it and starting a return, despite the fact that this is my favorite laptop currently on the market. Why? Bad quality control. My charging light (The light below the trackpad that indicates charging) was crooked, but not loose, as if it was manufactured that way, and there was a scuff and tiny dent in the bottom left-hand corner of the lid. There was no damage to the shipping box and everything seemed to be packed very, very well. Another minor thing, the Intel stickers came more crooked than I have ever seen on a laptop, though personally I don't think that matters because I was intending to remove them anyway. This experience left a bad taste in my mouth. This just isn't the low level of QA I expect from a Windows laptop by Dell that costs MacBook Pro money. I am not exchanging. I *may" revisit this laptop a little later, but only if it remains the only Tiger Lake CPU small laptop capable of being configured with 32GB RAM. Maybe you can convince me to purchase another one.

Can I do photoshop on t14?

why not i7 vs ryzen 7?

So technically Intel directly jumped to DDR5(GDDR5) speeds to avoid getting smoked again in another AMD benchmark. VERY IMPRESSIVE! This is how AMD makes Intel work harder and harder and "Innovate".

what about the size comparison to a dell e7310?

You're really comparing that which isn't comparable. The Dell XPS 13 is a computer for those who wants the slimmest computer experience. Its volume is way less than the ThinkPad, therefore the cooling is much worse, therefore the sustained performance will be lesser. And again, no purchaser of the Dell XPS in his right mind is here to game. The ThinkPad is a low cost thinkpad, eg crap screen, 16:9 instead of 16:10/4:3, aka arguably far worse for working. IMO the Asus Zephyrus G14 is better than this ThinkPad in almost all ways. However, I do agree with you in hoping brands will bring more and more high end Ryzen laptops, since Intel is not competitive anymore in the more CPU oriented workloads.

Great comparison here... Machine/hardware wise.. XPS wins big time... However, it's amusing to see Intel competing with ryzen here. I was thinking ryzen will win everywhere but new Intel tiger lake wins in graphics..

I think it is a bit unfair to compare the two devices. The XPS is targeted at people who want the smallest and thinnest machine possible, the T14 is a business laptop with a beefier cooler. If this was about comparing Ryzen 4000 and Intel 11th gen, I would have picked a Ryzen HP Envy 13 to go against the XPS, or alternatively a 11th gen Dell Latitude 7400 to go against the Thinkpad.

Try 11inch lenovo vs. 15inch inspiron then it will be fair. Becouse it's about 1. mobility 2. productivity not the other way around. Dell have Inspiron AMD Ryzen 15inch 5505 and 14inch 5405

Ahhh, I' in the process of deciding which laptop to buy for christmas. Thinkpad are soo powerful devices, which have a lot of ports, and AMD processors. BUT I think they are really ugly, I don't like the red, or the logo which it has, just ugly. Is there any other manufacturor which makes such devices, in the same prices range? Probably not. I could have missed it.

there is major issue here u are focusing extremely much on heavy benchmarks and this is definetely what those machines are meant to be.This is business class,here is mainly performance in programs,offi ce e.t.c how long battery holds and how cool they are ,weight and screens. U can easily see dell XPS sweating with this IRIS with degrees over 100 on tests which is absolute no instantly from me thats why i went with T14 much more durable in time.

#500 pounds more for aesthetics I guess.

That is not fine, he compared high premium intel processor with AMD middle level processor, let's don't forget in this comparation Intel processor is newer than AMD processor.

Shouldn't i7 compare to Ryzen 7? That it doesn't even compare to Ryzen 5 is insane

As i know that amd is better, i had to buy intel because of thunderbolt...

Bro the ofc the gaming results were in the ideapads favor you played games that rely almost entirely on the cpu lmao. use gpu heavier games for a balanced result.

Intel is releasing 8 core tiger lake. I find people not recognizing how significant the single core performance of tiger lake is humorous. It outperforms the 10900k in single core. When they release a 8 core 16 thread part @45 Watts it will beat a 9900k and probably a 10700k in a laptop with 1/2 the power usage. They could literally release 65watt parts that could be desktop parts. These are fantastic chips.

You've titled this video with emphasis on the Intel vs. AMD processors, but then you spend quite a bit of time doing a more complete comparison between the two machine which are not in the same class. It's a mismatch. Thinkpad T-Series models are not price or performance equivalent of Dell XPS models. The T-Series is made with business productivity application in mind; it's the -X Series- X1 Series Thinkpads are comparable to "Premium" laptops from other manufacturers. An overall comparison of machines in the same class would have been between the Dell laptop and an X1 Carbon. You make some vague reference to the fact that the machines are different, but there's a reason why at least one of your commenters writes that "Thinkpads" are -- categorically -- "Dinosaurs"; because that's the impression you're making with your comparison between a "Premium" offering and a business laptop that's the equivalent of a Dell Inspiron, not an XPS model.

Intel : Yeah, Good. But I doubt AMD Ryzen : 😎😎😎👍👍👍

I mean the XPS 9310 is better in every single way to the Thinkpad T14 except in the internals department. I've used both the Thinkpad X13 (very similar to the T14) and an XPS 9300 and the Dell is hands down a much better and nicer looking laptop, as you pointed out even the battery life and display is better too!

Who gives a fck on mobility buy yourself a Note 20 + only I need in laptops is strong and fast CPU

dell laptop with intel is far better than thinkpad with rygen