From Fat Vegan to Skinny Success Story
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@nicolebraunelias5672
@nicolebraunelias5672 6 сағат бұрын
Amazing work ! As an MD “ educated “ in Germany - living in Lebanon and a mother of 3 - I live on raw fruits , vegetables , nuts and some seeds since my years in medical school ! I was never sick , been unvaccinated as well as my kids - since birth and we are never sick nor getting any medication… other than sunshine, outdoor sports and living with our animals. We lost our German shepherd dog some weeks ago- and I was extremely sad- so I feel with you and your family. Much love from Lebanon and keep up your great information ❤
@michalb5187
@michalb5187 8 сағат бұрын
Since I was a child, I have always wanted to eat fatty zoonotic products. For example, at bonfires with my family, I always refused bread to sausage, preferring to eat 3 sausages instead of slogging my way through a bun and bread or campfire potatoes. In my pre-school, school days I was explained how vegetables were 'healthy', I tried to eat them in larger quantities than zoonotic products. This was also the diet I was given. I have struggled with obesity all my life, while being a very athletic person (10 years of judo). Unfortunately, I used to have back and headaches during training(through my spine), I was considered a simulant. Years later I realised that I had scoliosis of more than 30 degrees on the cobb scale. As an adult, I realised that I had been experiencing constant back pain since I was a child and that it had become a daily occurrence for me, so I didn't notice it when it wasn't getting worse. The pains sometimes increased after major exertions to the point that I was forced to lie in bed for a week, having difficulty getting to the toilet. In early adulthood I switched to a ketogenic diet, from 113kg my weight dropped to 90kg, this was a success for me, but it had no effect on my ongoing pains. I went back to a "normal" diet where I ate carbohydrates along with zoonotic products, then I switched to a vegan diet where I felt energetically better than on a "normal" diet, I lasted on it for 5 years, thinking it was a good diet, better than the typical European diet. Over the years I read a lot about the carnivore diet and the vegan diet. The carnivore diet seemed to me to be too magical for there to be real results. I had big doubts about the microbiome and gut issues. These doubts were dispelled for me by the cases of people who cured carnivore with irritable bowel syndrome, Chron's disease.... Two people close to me cured perpetual depression for years in just a few months with this diet. Too many miracles spoke for this diet. My father suffered a heart attack, 3 bypasses. He was a great lover of meat and vegetables at the same time. He struggled for years with obesity and gout. He almost died from a heart attack and my brother and I, who had been on a carnivore diet for 3 years, had to remedy this. I decided to go on the carnivore diet with Father. Father is in better shape than ever, he is 74 years old. He has energy he hasn't had in the last 30 years! The effects of the diet on my health are even more incredible! I haven't had any pains for six months, I exercise less than I did on the vegan diet, and I finally have visible results from these exercises. I don't need any "rehabilitation" offered by the health service. I have become a 100% happy person, I am doing things that I would not have been able to imagine six months ago. In fact, I can picture myself lying in bed motionless for 72h, crying in pain. The carnivore diet is doing wonders we cannot imagine. I believe it is the only right diet and that vegetables are just poisonous! I believe that my scoliosis, like the scoliosis of millions of people, is the result of malnutrition due to vegetable consumption! I also believe that most health problems are the result of vegetables in the diet. Let's not demonise meat. Meat heals! Meat is the only proper food for humans, no one can deny that! I would add that I have always loved growing plants. Being vegan I ate mostly my vegetables, naturally grown, including 3 types of beans!
@susank4878
@susank4878 13 сағат бұрын
A very potent episode, and I think you're right on target.
@user-cd9ui4qv4q
@user-cd9ui4qv4q 19 сағат бұрын
What about high ApoB (A)?
@notesfromleisa-land7893
@notesfromleisa-land7893 20 сағат бұрын
He may remember from history that scientist I think more than 2,300 of them signed a petition against Albert Einstein and specifically of the dangers of his theory of relativity so there's an example of a scientific community that railed against something that couldn't initially be proven until much much later
@jeffwhitlock3952
@jeffwhitlock3952 Күн бұрын
Have you looked into chlorinated water killing microbiome? I started a vermicomposting bin and learned tap water will kill the worms. Are the worms the new Canary in the coal mine? Thank you and keep up the great work.
@PlantChompers
@PlantChompers 12 сағат бұрын
It's funny, I was just thinking about that today. I saw an article in Nat Geo about swimming being a great exercise for an aging population who are tired of knee and hip injuries from running or hiking. But my (admittedly weak) understanding is swimmers have poor microbiomes because the water in the pool is so strongly chlorinated and they can't avoid ingesting a little of it.
@KarlKrassnitzer-mm8wb
@KarlKrassnitzer-mm8wb Күн бұрын
Impressive result of the study. But I am nevertheles suspicious. Could it be, that the meat eaters are more wealthy and therefore eat more food, that leads to increased fat content and more Diabetes because they overreached there personell fat threshold?
@notesfromleisa-land7893
@notesfromleisa-land7893 Күн бұрын
I think that Dr Greger said that he was being sued by Atkinson, but that the suit was dropped due to Dr As death from a CVD event. “Reprehensible” Is the word that comes to mind for disinformation spreaders of any ilk. The M.O. is always the same…cherry pick out of context and disparage, disparage, disparage. Sigh.
@PlantChompers
@PlantChompers 12 сағат бұрын
I had dinner with Dr. Greger last month and we traded notes on who is suing us or threatening to sue us. No good deed goes unpunished.
@willcollins5660
@willcollins5660 Күн бұрын
Hi Chris (audience members to, if you want to chime in), can you give us your opinion if Chadwick Boseman started on a vegan diet ever since he was a little kid and never stop being on a vegan diet, would he still be alive today? Please answer, despite the unpopularity or possible fans backlash. Sometime the truth hurt, but it still need to be said.
@PlantChompers
@PlantChompers 12 сағат бұрын
You know, unlike heart disease and type II diabetes, which are so strongly related to diet, cancer is so multi-causal, diet seems to play much less of a role. If I had confidence in an answer, I would say it, but I think the evidence points to something like he'd be 30% less likely to get colon cancer...but the evidence is really shaky.
@thomas6502
@thomas6502 Күн бұрын
Thank you!
@thisispernyc
@thisispernyc Күн бұрын
Mr Plant Chomper, how can you criticize other MDs for not being primarily trained as cardio researchers when you yourself are not even an MD? 🤔 In the case of David Diamond he's a neuroscientist that started a second career in cardio research, but that just doesn't cut it with you? Also for some reason you didn't cover the latest paper that did span other age ranges besides over 60s: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38548371/ "Conclusions: Among primary prevention-type patients aged 50-89 years without diabetes and not on statin therapy, the lowest risk for long-term mortality appears to exist in the wide LDL-C range of 100-189 mg/dL, which is much higher than current recommendations. For counselling these patients, minimal consideration should be given to LDL-C concentration."
@PlantChompers
@PlantChompers 12 сағат бұрын
Dr. Diamond is not a neuroscientist, but a psychologist whose primary research is why loving caretakers forget children in hot cars: www.usf.edu/news/2019/why-human-brain-allows-loving-caretakers-leave-child-die-hot-car.aspx I didn't cover the new paper because it made up all the crazy stuff about insurance companies (that's where Mike got is information from) and it went downhill from there-not understanding statin use beyond the first year, cause of death, and major gaps in data. Thursday I have an episode coming out about real, credible heart researchers who don't just make things up.
@Jopie2112
@Jopie2112 Күн бұрын
I write down all the books you mention and wear out my library card reading them. Just finished Dr Barnard's book, Schatzker's books, Longo's book, etc, etc. Am reading "Hooked" right now. Thanks for introducing me to all these. There is so much 'meat' in them!
@PlantChompers
@PlantChompers Күн бұрын
Wow! A fellow book lover. I hope my recommendations are good… 🙂
@ivanalejandro-ct
@ivanalejandro-ct Күн бұрын
i love how she treats him like an informed idiot
@occxxxy
@occxxxy Күн бұрын
Here for the culture. Prevention is Key
@TheaHFrancis
@TheaHFrancis Күн бұрын
Lovely interview ❤Really enjoyed it 😊❤
@JohnSmith-fl5qn
@JohnSmith-fl5qn Күн бұрын
No conclusions. Just loose time watching
@lorenortiz5097
@lorenortiz5097 Күн бұрын
India eats high plant foods, worst health in the World. I take no medications because I switched to a carnivore diet . You are really funny. I don’t care how ignorant you are, you don’t affect me. I bet you’re vaccinated aren’t you.
@H-jb4tf
@H-jb4tf 2 күн бұрын
This is stupid. How can one versus the other when they work in tandem? Young generation in need of some common sense education? 🤪🤪
@virajbhalani8389
@virajbhalani8389 2 күн бұрын
Well… technically Oreo cookies are vegan therefore contain zero cholesterol.. 🤔
@rogerpakrat800
@rogerpakrat800 2 күн бұрын
HolyShit. I didn't think it was possible. But these comments have proven that there's a lot of gulabl people out there that will believe this crap. It's simple LDL not bad HDL also not bad.
@DynoDeso
@DynoDeso 6 сағат бұрын
Someone with a brain finally, but I mean look at the name of this channel what do you expect 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@robertangel30
@robertangel30 2 күн бұрын
Pure BS. My mother, father, grandparents, and many relatives lived until their 80's and 90's. My great aunts lived till 102 & 103. ALL red meat eaters. Shove your vegan nonsense where the sun doesn't shine.
@PlantChompers
@PlantChompers 2 күн бұрын
Were there vegan scientists on this study?
@nowhereman8656
@nowhereman8656 2 күн бұрын
Last but not least from me- many of us turned to diet “tribes” because the doctors we go to were doing even less than any of you or even a chiropractor/alternative medicine specialist. At least they slowed things down for us. So the people that are supposed to be representing the researchers are hardly ever blamed for not helping at all, but now the researchers are showing the diet tribes are wrong and “intuitive”…. which translates to “good try, you uninformed fool. We’re still looking down on you”. Well…. then tell the PhD’s out there misrepresenting you. Oh sure, they’re catching up, but the best advice I got so far until this video above, was from a friggin’ chiropractor. Tell the MD’s out there to get it together huh? Then it wouldn’t take me six years to find this.
@nowhereman8656
@nowhereman8656 2 күн бұрын
…also, if “actual diabetes researchers” can have the best insight, disproving the intuition of the video mongers… then can those researchers get at least ONE channel on youtube we can finally trust, to balance out all the others? So we have some added benefit they might want to give fellow humans instead of most of us hearing our doctors say almost NOTHING about diet and suggest medications? It’s no wonder many of us scramble for help from youtube “experts”, when our medical groups are like mine fields of information. Step right? You might continue. Step wrong, and it’s a doctor who is brainwashed to make money and let you slowly die. Even my older relatives that have diabetes (2 have it), are convinced ALL doctors know best. So if I say “watch your carbohydrates aunt so-and-so, you might feel better if you find alternatives to those muffins and pancakes… (etc.)”, she isn’t willing to even think about it. The good doctor gave her medication! At least those who I know following some keto approach including myself, have halted and even lowered blood sugars. Now I’ll try no red meat and go less meat in general and see how it goes… but I want to HEAR from those top researchers more often than having to stumble upon your report from this one video.
@nowhereman8656
@nowhereman8656 2 күн бұрын
I’m impatient as usual but from the early interviews of the video, I wondered if A.) did it matter if it was just red meat if any kind, or red meat with all the medicines, marbling, and other unnatural differences of current processes? And… if you already have diabetes, does eating clean, lean, organic red meat make you worse or keep you from reversing diabetes? Seems it would continue to do harm, but some have included meat every day and lowered their glucose levels to normal. Seems some diet tribes are going to let people become or stay unhealthy, just because of the fear of being wrong.
@PlantChompers
@PlantChompers 2 күн бұрын
Well the thing is eating low carb anything masks what's going on under the hood - glucose intolerance. So you think you've cured your diabetes because your blood sugar doesn't rise much after a meal, but the only way to know if you're still diabetic is to eat a bowl of oatmeal with fruit. Someone who recovered from diabetes will only see a moderate glucose rise, but someone who has only masked the simptoms by avoiding carbs will see an abnormal spike, even after some days to adapt. It is possible to actually reverse diabetes on an all-meat diet, but the mechanism is almost always avoiding other junky foods, and by so doing losing weight.
@Battery-kf4vu
@Battery-kf4vu 3 күн бұрын
What do you think of the new paper "Is LDL cholesterol associated with long-term mortality among primary prevention adults? A retrospective cohort study from a large healthcare system"?
@PlantChompers
@PlantChompers 2 күн бұрын
It's a very interesting idea and I would love another solid data set, well analyzed to compare with Framingham's and Harvard's, for example. But this one has some enormous gaps. For example, these patients were arriving at an age where their physicians would have prescribed statins for the ones with elevated cholesterol. But all this data set knows is they were statin free for the first year. If the Framingham & Harvard patterns hold, the ones with higher LDL would have been prescribed statins, reducing their mortality, but we wouldn't know from this data. We don't know if they got blood pressure meds, what the cause of death was, etc. The Framingham and Harvard studies were designed for this purpose and had very qualified heart specialists involved. This paper used old information and now false info from insurance companies, etc.
@Battery-kf4vu
@Battery-kf4vu 2 күн бұрын
@@PlantChompers Thank you. The devil is in the detail indeed.
@PlantChompers
@PlantChompers 2 күн бұрын
Thanks. It's pretty depressing that the BMJ keeps publishing papers like this from this particular co-author (David Diamond, from a department of psychology who has never been involved in heart disease research), but they do get views.
@castironanalytics9630
@castironanalytics9630 3 күн бұрын
Another Takeaway: Don't be a Influencer and expect a long life.
@billbolen77
@billbolen77 3 күн бұрын
Truthful...always the best.
@gerhardstrydom5249
@gerhardstrydom5249 3 күн бұрын
Would love to know the average age in that country/area at the time the 'influenzers' died...
@zstopperuno
@zstopperuno 3 күн бұрын
If LDL levels are the cause of plaque formation, why do plaques form in only a miniscule percentage of the vasculature? Check out video "Heart Disease - Solved" for explanation.
@desmomotodesmomoto2033
@desmomotodesmomoto2033 3 күн бұрын
5 years on high fat carnivore diet. Best decision of my life.
@GregariousAntithesis
@GregariousAntithesis 3 күн бұрын
Pubmed 28 mar 2024 Design: Retrospective cohort study. Setting: Electronic medical record data for adults, from 4 January 2000 through 31 December 2022, were extracted from the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center healthcare system. Is LDL cholesterol associated with long-term mortality among primary prevention adults? A retrospective cohort study from a large healthcare system Conclusions: Among primary prevention-type patients aged 50-89 years without diabetes and not on statin therapy, the lowest risk for long-term mortality appears to exist in the wide LDL-C range of 100-189 mg/dL, which is much higher than current recommendations. For counselling these patients, minimal consideration should be given to LDL-C concentration.
@Jeffs60
@Jeffs60 3 күн бұрын
The average LDL cholesterol of a centenarian is about 110 mg/dL.
@GregariousAntithesis
@GregariousAntithesis 3 күн бұрын
@@Jeffs60 source
@Jeffs60
@Jeffs60 3 күн бұрын
2010 article title: Discovery of Novel Sources of Vitamin B12 in Traditional Korean Foods from Nutritional Surveys of Centenarians. The lowest LDL was 90 and the highest was 145 mg/dL and this is similar to all other centenarians around the world regardless of where they live on the globe.
@GregariousAntithesis
@GregariousAntithesis 3 күн бұрын
@@Jeffs60 and i can provide many more sources that are more like the 20 year example i provided. I like the fact they used medical records to quantify the data. Its pretty black and white. Cholesterol is junk science a fools errand
@GregariousAntithesis
@GregariousAntithesis 3 күн бұрын
@@Jeffs60 not only that its not a US study
@LydiaZ36
@LydiaZ36 3 күн бұрын
If we are going to appeal to insurance companies, maybe we should look at why Kaiser Permanante promotes WFPB.
@vcozma66
@vcozma66 3 күн бұрын
Which one is on steroids?
@lastnewsnetwork6299
@lastnewsnetwork6299 4 күн бұрын
Actually reduced birth rates lead to projections of population not reaching 10 billion
@Freesurfer688
@Freesurfer688 4 күн бұрын
It's unclear to me if there is such a thing as a 'one size fits all' approach. It could be that people thoughout the World have developed different diets and evolution has allowed people in one part of the World to eat meat and live to 90, (Such as the people in mountainous regions Mongolians and Georgians? Not sure if this is an urban legend or a fact) While other people in the East are more adapted to eat vegetables and live longer? I know that 12,000 years ago one branch of humanity chose to brew beer and wine and the other branch chose hot water over leaves to produce tea. One group may have developed a tolerance of alchohol whilst the other group may not have.
@aeronhong4998
@aeronhong4998 4 күн бұрын
Another gem...
@user-dq5gc2uk5p
@user-dq5gc2uk5p 4 күн бұрын
Isn't "Chinese study" unscientific?..
@paulmaxwell8851
@paulmaxwell8851 4 күн бұрын
Mike Mutzel really appears to believe the nonsense he's peddling. I mean, he seems genuine. Unfortunately, he's utterly clueless in understanding medical research results, as we saw here, and his followers are in for an unpleasant surprise. Sad.
@jorjabalsz1456
@jorjabalsz1456 4 күн бұрын
I love you Chef AJ. Thank you ❤😊
@CHEFAJ
@CHEFAJ 2 күн бұрын
❤❤❤
@Kingtrollface259
@Kingtrollface259 4 күн бұрын
I was going to watch this, but then I realised listening to a 100 year old man for over an hour when stoned is probably not the best choice to make, I'll come come back to this when I'm not high👍
@imjody
@imjody 4 күн бұрын
I watched it while stoned. I'm glad I watched it. I watched it at 2x speed, but I always watch videos at 1.5x-2x speed. Allows me to take more information in at a quicker pace, lol. I'll watch an interview with 100+ year olds any day!
@susanniemann8525
@susanniemann8525 4 күн бұрын
I just recently discovered your fabulous channel and look forward to viewing all of your videos and look forward to new ones!!! Thanks for the science!
@Addison737
@Addison737 4 күн бұрын
It’s so funny hearing Bikman say it’s impossible for someone to live on a plant based diet. There’s people who literally have eaten nothing but plant foods their entire lives. I’m still waiting to hear what the secret magical nutrient in animal products that we can’t get from plants is.
@ForForksSake
@ForForksSake 4 күн бұрын
Thanks Michelle and Plant Chompers! I've been on Chef AJ twice and learned some new interesting facts about her! Keep up the good work. p.s. I watched this while at the True North Health Center, so it was fun to hear it mentioned.
@krawlb4walking802
@krawlb4walking802 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for this ! Love this woman ❤
@Baltimoreed
@Baltimoreed 5 күн бұрын
Interesting post but I would have liked to know if the subjects smoked or drank. Two things that shorten our lives substantially.
@dicksyphilis3914
@dicksyphilis3914 5 күн бұрын
Life requires money. Money corrupts absolutely.
@BigDaddyBostin
@BigDaddyBostin 5 күн бұрын
Amazing
@richardgees
@richardgees 5 күн бұрын
You nailed it!
@Adreno23421
@Adreno23421 5 күн бұрын
Where is the year long controlled RCT on veganism vs omnivore vs carnivore?
@Centrum99Optional
@Centrum99Optional 4 күн бұрын
In the EPIC-Oxford study - the only study of the general Western population that used a decent sample of vegans - , vegans had the highest mortality out of all five examined dietary groups. The idea that a plant-based diet is "healthy" is a sort of agenda spread by the Seventh Day Adventists and their so-called scientific studies.
@elena7720
@elena7720 5 күн бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH for this awesome interview! I am sending it to all my friends and family. One quick question: where can I buy Dr. Scharffenberg’s pamphlets? I already ordered his books on Amazon but could not find these brochures.