I agree Ms. Mull has been making me crazy through this entire trial. Starting with opening statement!

@@judgementalchihuahua705 me too. If i never see her in another trial it would be too soon.

If the defense doesnt do their best the case can be thrown out.

So annoys me also because Millie’s bruises match her testimony about what caused hers and Laila injuries.

I am too - it's sickening.

He’s as guilty, he was completely involved in the murder along with his devil wife

She absolutely had PTSD!!! My young grandson has it from sexual abuse by an older boy. It comes out in many ways. It requires love and patience and specialized counseling.

@Roxanne Daniel millie was there, in the courtroom?

God bless you Leila and Millie. Amen.

@@marycanfield8654 Yes on the witness stand which they wouldn't show her we just heard her testimony.

Absolutely heartbreaking

Wow!! That poor baby 💔 what a true statement. I hope Millie continues to get therapy bc she's a victim, also

NOLA GIRL I

Yes, this really struck me too. Such raw fear. Poor baby.

Maybe later in life she will be given the gift of discernment. She explained what its like not to have it but it is one of the gifts God can give people :)

I think they did that on purpose, then they can claim incompetent defense and try to overturn the conviction they knew they would get..

@@Kitti3529 No. First, it is almost impossible to get a conviction over turned. Better to be found innocent first try. Second, that wouldnt even come close to meeting the criteria for incompetence. You have to show that your lawyer was falling down drunk or severely mentally ill or, and this what incompetent really means, lied about being a educated and licenced legal representative. If your lawyer lied about being certified or licenced to practice you can then claim incompetence.

I just think that too.

Omg I know! The defense attorney is a joke! I can’t stand her!

Maybe she isn’t interested in trying very hard because she knows they did it and deserve to go down for it

Her young mind doesn't know how to compute the physical abuse or the PTSD from watching her sister murdered. So she will make up alternate outcomes to avoid dealing with the trauma. I say if after this all she does is lie then leave her alone. All kids lie. Adults lie. Like her foster parents. This is horrific 😢

Amen to that !

Absolutely well said! Poor Millie!

I like that too... it's probably way easier for the children in an environment they know :)

That's why they do that ....especially for younger children with abuse and foster care history

Unless home is hell. You want to make sure what you say to your therapist when the devil is listening from the other room

On the Right sorry

Amen honey!!!!

@Ryan Smith The moron is you!!!!!!

Exactly Millie is traumatized poor baby doing the best she can with what she has been subjected to!

Even if the kid WAS a liar?? What does that have to do with her client murdering her sister?? You know? It's not like Millie was the one abusing herself, and Laila. Mull is sickening.

@Ingrid Colello Exactly. This child has too many tell tale signs of PTSD to be lying about her sister's death or their abuse. Then them going to trial, and saying oh, well Millie's a liar so just discredit her because EVERYONE'S pancreas just splits in two from compressions to the CHEST. Bull. That happened over an extenuating period of time, and I bet that was the last kick or knee or blow that babies body could take, and she finally succumbed to her injuries. That little girl isn't a liar, they are just monsters, and are still trying to keep up with this fantasy world that Jennifer had created for herself, and the image that this woman claimed was so typical of children in foster care. Only it takes a sociopathic or psychotic personality to harm or destroy something/someone smaller, and defenseless. I'd imagine Jennifer was a bully as a child, and teenager too. I have a two yr daughter, and my little boy will be 9 on Saturday. They are allowed to be children, and I teach them right from wrong without violence. And I've been kicked in the face, slapped, you know the typical things kids try to get away with. I've just said oh, no. You do nice, mama, and show them how. Kids dont come with manuals, no but I learned on my OWN. She had resources, and there's no excuse.

@Ingrid Colello Millie's adopted mother had said she called Millie a liar throughout the trial when she was in fact the one who taught Millie to lie in the first place. Isnt that some sick s-h-i-@? And I believe very strongly that it's TRUE. Babies brains are like sponges at that age.. so sad Ms. Ingrid. I'm glad she got life plus 40 yrs. She deserved it!

@@sarachemelowski3904 Agree 100%. I was thinking the same exact thing

@@dmnur3 this trial really had me angry, but in tears a lot too. These babies had suffered for no reason other than Jennifer Rosenbaum is a sick, arrogant, and entitled bitch. SO entitled, and arrogant she thought she could just beat a 3 yr old to death, and get away with it. I don't want to spoil the verdict but, she thought wrong.

My heart broke when I heard 7 times. My God!! I can’t help to be so upset with the entire justice system. There is so many women that can’t have children and would do anything to have a child. First of all they look like kids. Even a friend that testified showed no empathy. Why would they be allowed to be foster parents. The system has failed us. I can imagine more cases that are out there that are not shown to us.

this happens to soooooo many children in the US... the system is broken af and there is A LOT of abuse... :(

7 times. Poor children God help her

That's what pisses me off !! These poor babies were going from house to house and now that shit hits the fan and one of the kids are dead the mom and the grandma wants to come out and cry and all this BS!!!!!

@@lalocasagittarius6653 Sorry , but have absolutely no understanding , sympathy nor any empathy for any of the so called,immediate blood family,members of these little,defenseless now lost souls -- especially that of their biological, mother and their father . Sorry , but the mother's actiions / non actions are what led,up to all this which is now ocvurring within the court syatem . Yes , the foster family were the overall end to their little precious souls being forever lost -- especially that of the little 2 yr old Laila . But had the mother been a bit more concerned about / for her actions / non actions and,the,path / route she continued to choose for her self at that time in her life -- then just maybe,none of this would have occurred for any of those whom had been directly / indirectly involved in the lives of the two sisters .

diane sturlin best part is that I know she loses!

Yes!!

Seriously! Quite possibly too many benzos with her coffee. She completely sucks.

Exactly my opinion about her.

Yes incompetent sounds like she is under the influence.

Right that was heartbreaking..the fact remains that, that baby girl got silent every time they asked about Jennifer or whatever her name is..anyway it spoke volume..it showed she was scared to speak about it nor did she want to remember.."I Don't Remember"..stick in my head because at the end of the day she didn't want to remember nor tell a lie🤷‍♀️Facts..and it's so sad..

Spot on. Even more so a child

I cannot believe that bio grandmother would not have taken those girls in, even if it meant grandma moving. She saw the sheer fear on poor little Laila's face when it was time to go back to Rosenbaums house. What a shame, so heart breaking.😢😖😥

@@crmcrm9623 she admits she tried they wouldn't give her back to her and she couldn't care for Leila I suggest listening to the whole trial

Took me two weeks

However if you look up Peggy Banks you will see her part and she explains all of it

I want to have a tee shirt with millie's wise words on it. Very deep sentiment from a child that age and so true

🙏 bless the little angel, my heart is broken listen to this .that Defence attorney is disgusting

RIP Laila Marie Daniel.

Creative Revival Well the birth Mother couldn't be bothered to even visit her babies but could find the time to lay on her back and get pregnant multiple times after her children were removed only to have those children taken away as well. Sorry, the egg donor could careless about reunification if she wasn't even worried about scheduled visitation.

@Queen Grady she's talking about the mother who actually adopted her not the one who fostered here

That is so heartbreaking and prophetic...God bless that sweet girl!

Can you imagine what it was like to realize this concept as a 5-,7yr old?

I'm sorry that you had a bad childhood ☹️ .

I’m so sorry. Peace be with you.

Exactly that's what this tells me too is that poor millie is scared on saying the wrong things cuz evil Jennifer probably punished her if she didnt do or say what she wanted her to do....it definitely shows she was abused

vickie kasafirek Very well worded & so true!!

Yes I agree. I think the defense's strategy is to put the bio family on trial to make them look like people who would do this to a child.

Yes, it's over NOW.

There are multiple ways to form long term memory. The main way is through the hippocampus, which doesn't fully form until around 4-5 years old (the last part of the brain to develop and the first to deteriorate). The hippocampus mainly helps to store episodic memory (events or "episodes" in your life, like recalling your first day of high school or that night out with your friends) and learning facts (studying for school). It's not stored *in* the hippocampus, rather the hippocampus takes information from short term memory, breaks it up, and puts it into different parts of the brain (which is why older people can still remember their youth in detail, but may not remember thing that happened yesterday). The amygdala, on the other hand, can store emotional memory, pretty much from birth. So, very emotional or traumatic events *can* be remembered early on as choppy memories that are difficult to get rid of or control (think PTSD). So, if you found that event especially disruptive, emotional, or scary, you certainly *could* have remembered it. There's other types of memory, such as procedural memory (like driving a car and riding a bike) that happens in other parts of the brain, but it's not really important to your experience or this case. Something that *is* important to note in millie's case: many things can effect memory. Memories can be altered every time they are recalled, and the altered memory is very real to that person. So, jennifer could have altered millie's memories with repetition. Additionally, during trauma or episodes of stress or fear, the body releases cortisol. Evolutionarily, cortisol is a hormone meant for short term stress (run! We're being chased by a bear!) which helps blood to be redirected away from things like the digestive system and towards the muscles. It was not meant for long term stress, such as that occurs in child abuse. Cortisol is damaging to brain tissue over long periods. So, it could have prevented millie from storing information about her and her sister's abuse, and made her recall poor. She's not lying, she's telling the truth to the best of her ability. Her inability to recall correctly is almost a sign of long term stress and abuse. Her physical condition is confirmation.

Wow, that’s interesting. I wish my memory would take me back that far. My mom died when I was 3 and I don’t remember at all about her. I only know what other people who knew my beautiful mom have told me. I have strained by brain trying o remember something, her look, laugh, voice,smile, anything but remember nothing. So at 3 months to remember something yourself is amazing.

I think the defense strategy is to discredit Millie because, other then the 2 defendants, Millie was the only other person there where they murdered her sister. I'm heartbroken 💔 😞 😔 😪 😢 behind this.

Millie was a witness for the prosecution and her evidence was a part of the larger body of evidence which exposed/corroborated the ongoing abuse. The evidence against the defendants was overwhelming and so the defence strategy, as ineffective as it was, relies almost solely upon creating an element of doubt in the jury's mind by targetting a witness' credibility. That is their one tactic repeated over and over, but it was always incredibly weak. They will target any minutiae here trying to make this witness say "Millie lied about thing x" no matter what x was, to try to undermine her credibility. However, the prosecution is there to counterbalance this and everyone, including the jury thankfully, saw there was no substance to any of the defence's tactics. Truly a heartbreaking case.

@@AleaIactaEst2009 exactly. This poor may need therapy for the rest of her life.

@@kiritolifeinacoma7310 I can only wish her the very best. It is commented on how positive a person she naturally is, so there is hope she finds the strength to overcome, as well as she can, the ordeal that will be with her and others for life. She needs a stable family around her, to regain trust in those who earn it, and I hope her current foster parents can support her the way she needs and she can stay with them if they do.

@@AleaIactaEst2009 I pray the same for her. Our prayers will intercede on her behalf.

Heartbreaking 😣

Profound statement from such a small child but she has been through so much. Poor baby.

That brought me to tears. That poor child.

I have no words to say ,what could I possibly add. Only that I do agree with all of you.

Un fu..ing believable.

I don't know how she can sleep at night.

Jenn Bass The defence woman needs to be charged with child abuse of Millie! Also needs to be removed from the “Bar”!

I don't like it either... one bit.. BUT someone HAS to do that job... otherwise the justice system would fail...

@@alicemorton9145 what? It’s her job!!!!

@Connie Hughes I guess the woman wound me up😢🙏

yep. bad coping skills will foster thru self medicating to addiction or abusive relationships. all the thoughts and prayers will go out the window and it will be "i dont feel bad for addicts they made the choice" or "why didnt she just leave him when he beat her the first time?"

This. Once you hit you're late teens you already start losing the concern and care of others. As an adult, literally no one will care anymore and if you don't have the skills, money, or mental capacity to get help for your trauma you will most likely cope in very negative ways and suffer even more. It really is so important to get kids help as soon as possible.

If our societies around the world continue on the same path, I'm afraid you all are so right. 😔

I have faith that Millie’s mother, Amanda will do everything she can to continue Millie’s therapy and support her every step of the way. I’m so glad she’s found a loving home.

Falling asleep on a journey is normal!! The rhythmic motion lulls us and makes us sleepy. As a passenger in a car I can hardly keep my eyes open! Those poor little girls!! What a horrible pressure to put on children. That monstrous couple really were hell bent on turning, probably the most comforting thing (falling asleep in the car) the girls felt, into one of fear and terror. My God. Shame on them!!!!!

Yep, but she couldn’t show doubt when it came to the X-rays that showed all the injuries caused by abuse. This case is so sad. I wish these girls could have been placed in a good home with love and compassion. It sounds like Millie has that now. Laila is in heaven and definitely has love and peace. But it years my heart out to know what she endured. Why wasn’t there red flags to get them removed from that he’ll house?! 😢

I know, if it wasn't so pathetic it'd be funny!

I wonder if this is her 1st serious case. She's rude, difficult to understand wtf she's asking, she's stuttering. I mean is she nervous? Damn she's annoying. I understand ppl have a right to lawyer to defend them but this lady is doing a horrible job!

Believe it or not she's apparently got a lot of awful people acquitted. I think she had a tougher case than she thought she'd have.

I wouldn't use her for anything! What a nut case

💯👏👍

I know it's painful. But the prosecution quickly put it in perspective, and this witness benefitted the prosecution case!

Unfortunately I read that Jennifer had a decent reputation in city- she held a reputable job and had ties w people involved w placing foster children

To listen to that bitch of a therapist trying to paint that child in a bad light. Millie told a child about the death of her sister. She didn't trust adults would you blame her. The dumb teachers also at the school trying to paint her in a bad light.The child was abused traumatised, saw her sister been abused, beat, killed and was herself a victim.No one helped her as far as I can see.Professionals my hat, trying to tell us about a child lying not being appropriate. Children dont lie as a rule even recalling the day her sister died she got teary and sullen.Poor Carter she is still afraid of the monsters who abused her and killed her sister.

Thats so sad. Hope you're getting help

@@Walklikeaduck111 I been since I was 17yrs old.

L Palmer Social workers -- they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. You must have an impressive list of tertiary credentials, because according to you the professionals testifying in this case are either no good or up to no good. Only in 'Merikka, the land of snowflakes. 🙄🙄🙄

@@fauxmanchu8094 why are you so offended? Theres numerous comments like this. Why are you targeting this particular comment??

Carol You should become an activist and advocate for trials with no defense lawyers, only prosecutors. 😂😂😂