@@floridaboii CPKC not a short line operator, but is the closest they come to acting like a shortline operatoration.

@@floridaboii Out this way is only once per week service. Definitely not busy, but at least it's steady and predictable service.

@@Trains4Fun what days? im hoping to get one there next Wednesday/thursday

@floridaboii From what I have been told by other people with way more knowledge then me. The train comes on Tuesday and Friday. Crew goes on duty at the Welland Yard at 5:30pm. So it would be good to be there at about that time, but when they leave depends on when the decide. I heard that they could leave the Welland Yard as late as 9pm. However in my limited experience they leave around 7:30pm. The train moves very slowly down the CASO / Dunville Spur. I'm thinking the tracks are restricted to 10mp/h. So it takes a while for them to go from Welland to Dunnville / Port Maitland. I believe they tie down in Port Maitland over night and return in the morning. Not sure about those exact morning times.

This is good news!!

Canadians learn to drive on the right side of the road. What country are you from?

@@Trains4Fun the united states of america

GIO Raikways is a fairly small short line operator. I think they have something like less then 10 locomotives. All of them previously owned by other railways. Out of all those ones I know there is like 3 of them that have been properly painted with their logo. I imagine that painting the rest of them is not really a top priority for them.

I'm not sure if this locomotive was a union pacific locomotive at one time, but the colors suggested it may have been. At the time of this video this locomotive was under the LLPX ownership and being lease to one of Geneese & Wyoming's Railway sister company that goes by the name Goderich- Exeter Railway.

I hear ya. This one I think I was in NiagaraFalls earlier. Then I was off to the HOPA in Thorold. I happened catch switcher at this place. Lucky for sure!!

Thanks. I'm going probably have to reupload the video sometime tomorrow. I'm not sure what happen to the audio, but it definitely missing some talking in there.

I've check this video on the computer to make sure I've uploaded the right version and for whatever reason their is some kind of glitch on the KZfaq TV phone app version. I've check this same video on both my TV and desktop computer and it seems to be working fine. So I'm not sure what the problem is. As far as I can tell it seems to be a problem with the KZfaq phone app. So until I can determine what causing the issue. I'll probably will not reupload this video and hope the audio corrects itself in the KZfaq phone app version. I apologize for the inconvenience.

@@Trains4Fun it’s OK technology fun when it works. Not fun when it doesn’t.

No matter how well you prepare for something like this. Like you know that any point in time you can see this ending well, but when it's over you can't believe that it's actually over. Athough I had watch videos in the area from 20-30 year earliers. You wouldn't believe how big and busy these railroad networks were, but some how they're were still not making enough from servicing these lines. Then I think if they keep cutting these lines who are they going to service then in 20-30 years from now. You can only keep cutting for so long before you realize there will be no railways in 20-30 years from now.

Too far away and I really don't have any before content and after content. Although I think I have some video of Queen St crossing in Brampton. I never caught the OBRY there.😶

It's just the end of Gio Railway in St. Catherines. They still have a strong presences in Welland, Port Colborne and Thorold South. But there is about 12 miles of tracks between St. Catharines and Welland that are now out of service.

Ah yeah. I just saw that the other day. It definitely ruin my day as I was still working on finishing this video. I didn't want change anything in video to reflect that, because I didn't want to remove the mystery of the Grantham Spur future. However now that I've seen the gates off at Quenston Ave R&R crossing I'm also certain the tracks will be lifted up sooner then I thought initially. I heard that CN had brought up some flat cars to Trenergy recently too to load up some heavy equipment to transfer to their new location in Thorold South. I imagine the tracks will come up after the transfer is completed.

I agree. With just one customer remaining, the line as you said isn't profitable and doesn't appear that it will be in the future. I can see the rail being lifted sooner than later. I also crossed the Canal Subdivision at Highway 20 and those tracks look like they hasn't seen a train in a long time.

@@-smokem If I'm thinking about the correct area. This would be the line that leads into St. Catherines Merriton yard. This was the route Gio Railway takes when it goes to service St. Catherines, but soon after this last day the entire has been block from about hwy 41 since. The only way I think it could survive is if metrolinx somehow gobbles it up. If were to decide to extend it route from St. Catherines to Welland. Of course that's just a railroad fantasy and don't believe it will happen.

The NS&T lines die a little each day. The line in your video is not far from where I live so I know the area well. Excellent work on the video, I might add. Metrolinx wouldn't have an interest to serve Welland - not enough ridership for them to be remotely interested.

From what I understand is the CP underpass is basically complete now. While I will miss having more opportunity of filming the crossing here. I'm sure London driver will be gleeful that it's done. Now I understand that cp trains come through on fire. That has been increditable experience to watch over here in St. Catherines😱

That's sound like a great idea! I hope I can find a reason to come to Guelph and check out what they done at Speedvale and Woolwich one day. It would make for a nice comparison video and definitely would be strange to see gated crossing in that area and all modern cantilever, bells and lights.😊

Haha. I don't notice that until you mention that, but fix the title description. Thanks for the comment 👍

Thanks!

Likewise. Probably see you around again at trackside if there is another one these momentous event. I just rather it be like when ONR came through Niagara. Although it seems like they may not happen again.

Absolutely a sad day if true. I mean I've been out a few times in the past month. Trying to get a record of a couple places I've yet to record at, but unsuccessful. I hope to maybe get out on Thrusday to catch something then.

Hey I have not been in the area for a few years, but I'll say this. I don't believe this line is shut down for 2 reason. One it's use to service the Toyota plant and a couple other smaller industries along on this line. The other is to service exchange yard with CN rail. I believe they still make a run down line there nearly every day if the posting of other railfan is accurate. Thanks for the comment.

I moved out of the area back in 2020. So everything I know is probably fairly dated now. When I was still around they would use this area to run the locomotives to the back of the train so they could back the train into Gillies Lumber and Hunts logistics near Witmer St and Eagle. While I know Hunts is now no longer there. Gillies Lumber is still there. I would imagine it would still be in use for that reason, but I couldn't tell you anything about how often. It would be probably be about 1 or 2 times a month my best guess. They use to send the train around after lunch, but now I have no idea. Glad I had an opportunity to capture this moment like twice.

Let me first say, It's not you. The kemira train is not easy to catch. It has a hard to pin down schedule and I believe tanker cars get swapped roughly twice a month. You have to keep coming back at less twice a week. Tuesday or Thursday and hope you showed up on the right day. So you have to invested a great deal of personal time to be there in case it shows up for that. I haven't really been out that way too much and so I'm not sure if they are still running on those days, but that how we managed to see it. Good luck!

Wait. Are you serious? When did they get removed?

They were removed many years ago - sometime in the late 1980s, I believe.

Oh well I have not caught any thing here yet. I did try for awhile, but I alway seem to just missed them.

I hope to eventually see the rest of the montrose spur, but it'll probably take a while since this train mostly works later in the evening for which I can't usually find the free time to get out there and then it usually to dark. It would be nice to get a little more of it someday.

I don't know the frequency of service now but it used to be a mainline until 2001.

@@-smokem i think most of the Locals on the line run at night as i've seen photos of them in Niagara Falls at night time at the Switch for the Spur into Marine Land. Theres also a video somewhere on KZfaq showing one of those Locals entering Marine Land During the day

I think the engineer was in a little disbelief, because his reaction was quite delayed and some drivers on the road seem to be annoyed aswell. I was surprise how many cars were blowing through the crossing as this was the first time I watch the video back even though this video was recorded over 4 years ago now. I actually edited out a fare bit of it too, but as someone pointed out before it really not a good location for a switching yard.

@@Trains4Fun you should see how bad it is In Kitchener now with people driving through crossings went the gates are going down I caught a car on video almost getting hit by a go train at one of the crossings

You are right. This is not the best arrangement, but like most railroads were in places long before there were regular roads. My guess this is largely the reason this yard is looks badly configured this way. When there was far less cars on the road, but now seems to have turned into a serious traffic problem. Fortunately this is the only time of the day it happens.

If that is what you are interested in. Sometimes if I know if somebody is getting a new phone. I'll ask what they are doing with their old phone and ask for it or if they are willing to sell it for really cheap. Also you can search different online market places and find something cheap that way too. Trust me I've broken my share of cameras because tripods getting flip over from a big gust of wind from trains or weather. This the only way I've managed not to spend few hundred dollar$ a year.

Well am already selling models scales train for $$$ , and with that money, i would buy New camera, tripods, maybe a drone and a radio to hear the train conversation.

Yeah this video is over 7 years old now. It's like finding something under bed or in the back of your closet while you clean up room and say I remember this thing and throw in the garbage. Lol. Thanks for watching!!

I working on an old video of CN switching XV yard off of Edinburgh road.

No tracks removed here to this day but one track is removed starting about 20 feet west of Nelles Road in Grimsby and eastward to Jordan, a distance of 10 miles.

Usually we chase trains, but this time it came to us. This train is not normally something we would be able to see without making a huge trip with special arrangements. Were talking like a 8-12 hours driving one way and possibly staying over night at a motel just to see them. I think the coaches are use for passenger service call "polar express" to run passengers from Cochrane to Moosenee. About 186 mile route. Anyways it was nice having a chance to see it. Not sure if we will see again. Unless they decide to use it for another special event. Thanks for the comment!

I made this video a little more then a year ago. In that time I've only had to reset that steering column only once. Thankfully I haven't had this problem since. I haven't seen much feedback and so it's hard to say how well it work for other people. I know some people have reported the reset works, but that's about it. Long term I have no other information except on my own experience. Hopefully no one will further experienced these problems in their future. Thanks for the comment!

Thank you very much! Yes video recorded last year, but just got to it now. Actually wrote the description a few weeks ago, but this was a difficult to edit because of the dispatch talking on the radio was a little distracting. So I had make that edit work with the rest of the video.

Always happy to hear people are enjoying the content. There is still a lot to see. I'm just hoping my car will last bit longer as it on the verge of a total break down. Sadly might have to give this up soon.

Thank you!