Where is this & is it still utilized?

Thanks for sharing this. I am a Latter-day Saint, and have gone to Catholic Mass quite often this past spring, in support of a nephew who has recently become a Catholic. It was at a very historic and grand cathedral in Vancouver, Washington (Proto-Cathedral of St James the Greater). Though they have one Sunday Mass service in English, they also still have one in Latin. Even in the English service, some of the hymns are in either Latin or Greek. I much prefer the Latin Mass and enjoy the mixture of songs, some in Latin, some in Greek and some in English. One of the things I like about the Latin Mass is its historical nature, and I am a lover of all things historical, also am fascinated by ancient languages and the history behind them. Though I have no intention of becoming a Catholic, I very much enjoyed the Mass services, particularly the ones held during the Easter week. It also helped me to understand and appreciate the members of that faith to a greater extent than before. My nephew also prefers the Latin Mass, and he also much prefers the old historical, grand cathedrals like the one we attended. However, with overall active Catholic parish attendance declining, they are having to consolidate some parishes and there is talk about selling this grand old cathedral, mainly due to high maintenance costs. He is not happy about that idea, and I also think it would be a real shame. In attending the services there, I did notice that most of the attendees were non-Hispanic, and definitely the average age is of older folks, with not many younger families with children, though there were some. There is a Vietnamese congregation though that has their own Mass in Vietnamese at a different time on Sunday, as there is a significant Vietnamese population here amongst whom are a significant number of Catholic members. My nephew is also not happy about the modern trend to do away with the Latin Mass, and he has spoken about how there are many in his new faith that agree with him. I think many of the newer and younger members, as you noted, are preferring the more historical Latin Mass, and I can see why. I'm looking forward to your attendance at one or more of the California historical missions. I grew up in CA and so learned quite a bit about that history in school when I was a child. The town we grew up in was near one of the old missions, just a bike ride away. That is a very interesting part of California history. Thank you so much for your ongoing contribution to fostering good will and understanding and appreciation between the different Christian faiths, especially coming from your new perspective as a fellow Latter-day Saint :)

Most religions are bound together by a common set of beliefs or a founder. UUs are bound by an agreed covenant as to how we are going to be together and treat one another. We are all seekers and activists who enjoy being in a community with other open-minded people. Every UU church is a little different depending on the members of the congregation and although there are commonalities every service is different.

Dude... You ain't gonna believe this... Remember last year when You were making the video of You visiting the conference. That's exactly the time I was wondering if I should join... The Missionaries asked Me to look into it... And as I was watching that video of Yours I decided to join. That one video of Yours is what tipped the scale for Me. And now You joined also... :D :D :D

Very interesting. I have attended several Catholic funerals. Never a Catholic mass. As a latter day saint, I find other faiths so interesting. And the history provides a broader understanding. Thank you for sharing.

No no no modernist kumbaya tuff. This minimalist architecture vs Norte Dame. Hard no would say the Catholic trads

Beautiful

Very interesting observation about the political affiliation of the members of these churches. I appreciate your efforts in showing the history and the positives in your videos. ❤

Cults are kwazy…

what happened in Butler, PA?

I converted to the Roman Catholic Church in 2021. The Church is strong when we keep the mass traditional and don't try to change with the times. I enjoy Mass because it is so different than the outside world. Side Note: I have read through the Book of Mormon (going back through a second time), the entire "Saints" series, Rough Stone Rolling, and I listen to a bunch of LDS podcasts. Our LDS brothers and sisters have a lot of things correct. I had an LDS friend come over a couple nights ago and we talked about the BOM and Joseph Smith for 2 hours. In my opinion, there are a lot of similarities between Catholics and members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

David - You are gifted to research and speak about a religion that you aren't and never have been a member of.

In 1970/1971 I almost converted to Catholicism. The liturgy was in Latin, it was reverent and 'special'. Then the services changed to English, I was not in line with what I now understood, a heavy worship/reverence seemingly more towards Mary/the Holy Mother rather than Christ, the fact that the priest REALLY liked wine, AND the services were held in a neighborhood movie theater on Sunday, but the rest of the week showed X-rated movies. It was a huge turn off, lost the little reverance that the Latin liturgy provided. Two short years later, I joined the LDS Church and haven't looked back. ❤ your channel!

Thank you, David. Personally, I feel the Spirit very strongly during the Catholic mass. Some of my favorite recordings are of Requiems.

My family and I attended Latino Mass in Santa Fe, NM Palm Sunday when we were there over spring break. It was mixed English and Spanish and the service started in the plaza with the Anglican and Lutheran congregations. Mass and the Endowment have a very similar feel too me.

I went to several Latin masses with friends-pre Vatican 2- and I remember I was given a veil type thing to wear. I noticed in your video that many ladies had veils. But at the local parish I have visited for funerals/weddings etc. No veils. Obviously could understand it in English. That Latin mass was more impressive. Might feel differently if I were Catholic.

I’ve been watching your channel ever since your first visit to the church of jesus christ of latter day saints! My family and I are members and I have loved watching and seeing your story. Thank you so much for being a positive influence and helping people of all faiths come closer to Christ! I know everyone has their own conversion story, thank you so much for sharing yours!

You have it seems not studied much on the Book of Abraham issue which IMO shows Smith to have been a fraud. But then not many LDS are aware of the issues.

Hmm..I think you were ultimately just looking for a community rather than spiritual truths. Moreover I think you’ve interpreted a set of coincidences to divine intervention. Comparing mormonism and Protestantism is not exactly comparing apples with apples - and if you said you were a practicing Christian then you should know this because your baptism is effectively a rejection of Christianity.

Very interesting. I don’t have any friends who are Latin mass attenders but my mother did sometimes with her cousin when she was in her teens. I have watched a Trad Catholic channel on yt by accident and his name is Dr Taylor Marshall. He’s very interesting and learned in the trad Latin masses. I don’t share his beliefs obviously but I find it very interesting.

Dave, St Therese Church in Alhambra has a beautiful Latin Mass at 1:00 every Sunday, with Norbertine priests celebrating. The choir is heavenly. God bless you and your LDS brothers and sisters.

Is there still a large Latin speaking population?

In the Catholic Latin mass, the movements of the priest are all prescribed in detail, as well as the ringing of bells during key moments. That's how people were (and I guess still are) able to follow the mass, even if they didn't know a word or even a syllable of Latin. They didn't understand many of the words, but knew by the gestures and movements of the priest where he was at in the ritual. The Latin mass that you attended wasn't 100% "traditional" if the people in attendance were vocalizing responses. The usual tradition was for the altar servers to make the responses on behalf of the people who remained silent.

I enjoyed this so much! I am a lifelong (and committed) member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and I grew up in Cache Valley, Utah, where we had very little exposure to members of other churches. (Though, most of my adult life I've lived outside of Utah, so I of course grew to love the diversity of faiths.) I love that in many pockets of Christianity, people's faith is increasing. Those churches that adopt philosophies of the world seem to dwindle, unfortunately. Keep these good videos going!

I actually loved your short about the “Choo Choo Church”, you should make a video about it’s story I’m very interested

As a cradle Catholic re-vert I can say the Traditional Latin Mass has been instrumental in my reversion. God bless the FSSP and other traditional orders.

I love and look forward to your videos :)

I had no idea there was actual restrictions on Latin mass! This doesn’t surprised me that there is such a divide and also that there is a divide among political lines. The Hispanics communities are deeply rooted in traditions. The conservative republicans are as well. So it makes sense that they would want to keep the traditions of Latin Mass. That’s where they feel the Spirit of the Lord most. The Catholic Church has such long standing, firmly rooted tradition and services I can see where the new pope changing things feels wrong to them. But on the other hand, white Americans and democrat leaning individuals are looking for change. They see things as too restrictive and outdated. So the changes are likely welcoming to them. I am not Catholic. However, I absolutely love learning the Latin meaning of words and phrases. They always bring such a deeper meaning to it all! Along with Hebrew, Greek, all ancient languages have a beautiful poetic way that can speak to a soul in a different way! For me, I think it’s sad when traditions change. I see need for it for sure in certain times. It’s many times change that bring me closer to Christ. So I can’t really form a real opinion I guess, but I can definitely feel both sides of this when I hear about it. 😊❤

Thank you, I love learning about other Faiths. Keep up the good work.

Love your work.

The restrictions don't really apply to FSSP, ICKSP, or IBP as they were set up with for Tridentine mass. It is more a restriction of the diocesan TLMs. This was affirmed by Pope Francis after some priests of the ICKSP asked for information related to Traditionis Custodes.

Are the restrictions on Latin Mass causing a RIFT within the Catholic Church or not? Let me know below, would enjoy hearing your thoughts.

Very cool

Congrats David

I am glad you are adjusting. Check out Nauvoo Illinois which has a bit single adult in early September. The conferences are spiritually focused but a space to get to know others. Check it out. Can put you in touch. You get to experience a religious conference but in Nauvoo which for church history point of view may be interesting.

Its a church for gays and country club members.

How did the family proclamation win you when it is hateful, ignorant and directly opposed to the the first 5 presidents and their apostles? Can I ask you what your thoughts are on the fact that the first leaders all commanded kids to marry them?

The Book of Abraham a LDS scripture has been shown to be a fraud. You have not really studied this matter. You more impressed with their behavior. Does Christ like mean you don't use your intellectual ability.

Digging for Answers Biblical Archaeologists are about as certain as you can be about these things that the conquest of Canaan as the Bible describes did not happen: no mass invasion from the outside by an Israelite army and no extermination of Canaanites as God commanded One thing archaeologists can tell us is whether or not a city was violently destroyed by outside invaders and whether a new group of people took up residence, Battle and destructions of cities leave archaeological footprints - things like soot(if the town was burned0, weapons, smashed pottery, and human bones. Mass migrations of people groups as the Bible describes with Israel entering Canaan would cause some cultural upheaval and leave some sort of remains for archaeologists to dig up and write long books about to help them get tenure. Remember those thirty-one Canaanite towns listed in the Book of Joshua (plus other towns on either side of the Jordan River)? Sixteen towns were destroyed according to the stories in the books of Numbers, Joshua and Judges. Of those sixteen, two or three maybe four cities show signs of violent desctruction at or around the time when Joshua and his army would have been ploughing Canaan(thirteenth centuryBCE about 200 years before the time of King David)). That’s it The towns on the other side of the Jordan River, in Moab, don’t look like they were even occupied at the time. We also read in the Bible that twelve towns were taken over without a fight. But of those twelve only seven were even occupied at the time , according to archaeological findings. And of those same twelve towns that the Bible says weren’t destroyed, three actually do show signs of destruction. In other words, archaeology and the biblical story don’t line up well at all. Jericho, the first of the towns to be razed in the Book of Joshua, is the most famous example. Not only was Jericho minimally inhabited at the best of time, but it had no massive protective walls, which means the biblical story of the “walls of Jericho” tumbling down - at least that’s what a hundred years of digging there has shown us.

Hi David, welcome to the body of Christ. I just keep on watching your videos lately . You are such a brilliant one. I admire you so much how your conversion happened. I believed too that your sightings of cardinals has spiritual connection with your great great grandfather . Keep up walking in the path of righteousness towards Heavenly Fathers home. Xoxo

The LDS presents you a version of their church and doctrine when you are investigating that is very different from what is really taught once you are baptized and are a member. I pray you find the REAL Jesus of the Bible.

I think he is ready for the masonic ritual.

Oh I loved watching this! It’s thirty years ago now, but I had some experiences that caused this then atheist start to shift to the possibility of agnosticism. So I investigated six different types of faith - including Buddhism, which I loved on a lot of levels, but couldn’t understand becoming a monk, hiding away from the world and focusing on your own enlightenment. How does that benefit others? That didn’t sit right with me, even though many of the principles did; this other strange Japanese faith called Mahikari; Church of England (Anglican) which is the Religious class at school my parents affiliated us with, although never baptised; Catholic Church; Jehovah’s Witnesses - only because they’d been knocking on my door forever, so I decided to at least read their magazine this time vs politely accepting it and throwing it in the bin. None of them felt right though. And I really gave each a very good chance. The Anglican Church for three months was the first. I really tried to feel good about it - but had to listen to my instincts, which clearly communicated to me that I didn’t feel ok with what was being taught, or what I was experiencing. I decided at the end of my trial investigations that I didn’t need or want organised religion, and that I would just enjoy this burgeoning relationship/awareness of this higher connection/being - whoever or whatever it was. I was happy with that. Then less than a week later two LDS sister missionaries knocked on my shirt, and they were like angels - with a kind of light/glow about them. Before I knew what I was doing, I’d invited them in. Then felt I should at least be polite and listen. Everything. And I mean EVERYTHING, they taught me, resonated with experiences I’d already had, or understandings I’d previously gained - some only quite recently, others not. I started reading the Book of Mormon as invited, and could not put it down. I can’t explain it, but there is power in that book. The way I felt when reading it, was incredible, beyond worldly, spiritual, light. I slept with it next to my pillow because I just didn’t want to be away from that feeling. I too was impressed by the “by their fruits ye shall know them” concept. I had such a different experience with LDSs, s as I could see they truly LIVED and WERE their religion, and not just Sunday Christians. Their loving, kind, caring presence felt very real. That was different to what I’d experienced in the other churches I’d been investigating at the time. I also was very impacted by Alma 33 - about the different types of seeds being planted. Basically, if it’s not a good seeed, it will fall by the wayside, not blossom etc, but if it’s a good seed it will just grow & grow (major paraphrasing there 😉). That was my experience. None of the other churches caused anything to change, stir, grow within me but everything I was learning about the LDS church, every contact I had with suggested, scripture I read in the BoM, just swelled more and more inside of me ☺️ Six weeks, and a lot of discussions and heartfelt prayers later, I was baptised. I expected to feel great on the morning of my baptism, but woke crying my eyes out and feeling like I was grieving. I felt so sad and couldn’t understand it. As I drove to the chapel, bawling my eyes out and wondering why??? I suddenly recalled a scripture verse I’d read - “come to me with a broken heart and contrite spirit”. Oh! I was supposed to feel like this! ☺️ I then expected that feeling to go when I came up out of the water. I was shocked to not experience that. I was still crying, though the water disguised this a little. Then two priesthood holders laid their hands on my head for the blessing part of the baptism, and as they said, “Receive the Holy Ghost”, that broken hearted feeling lifted, and in its place, my entire body, mind & soul filled with what I can only describe as light and THE most incredible feeling of joy. After that, I encountered two concerns in the first six months of my membership. I didn’t yet have a testimony of Joseph Smith having been a prophet of God, and I learned about polygamy being part of the church’s history - which absolutely freaked me out! So I prayerfully sought understanding - willing to walk away if I didn’t, but both times I gained a deep understanding and had these kind of miraculous experiences where information presented to me, to help me understand - via magazines, a university journal I was looking in for an assignment about family therapy. I have zero regrets. I love my faith and how it has grown and changed me, and helped me know who I am at a very deep level, and am so grateful to those two beautiful sister missionaries who knocked on my door all those years ago.

I’m excited to watch this. It’s thirty years ago now, but I had some experiences that caused this then atheist start to shift to the possibility of agnosticism. So I investigated six different types of faith - including Buddhism, which I loved on a lot of levels, but couldn’t understand becoming a monk, hiding away from the world and focusing on your own enlightenment. How does that benefit others? That didn’t sit right with me, even though many of the principles did; this other strange Japanese faith called Mahikari; Church of England (Anglican) which is the Religious class at school my parents affiliated us with, although never baptised; Catholic Church; Jehovah’s Witnesses - only because they’d been knocking on my door forever, so I decided to at least read their magazine this time vs politely accepting it and throwing it in the bin. None of them felt right though. And I really gave each a very good chance. The Anglican Church for three months was the first. I really tried to feel good about it - but had to listen to my instincts, which clearly communicated to me that I didn’t feel ok with what was being taught, or what I was experiencing. I decided at the end of my trial investigations that I didn’t need or want organised religion, and that I would just enjoy this burgeoning relationship/awareness of this higher connection/being - whoever or whatever it was. I was happy with that. Then less than a week later two LDS sister missionaries knocked on my shirt, and they were like angels - with a kind of light/glow about them. Before I knew what I was doing, I’d invited them in. Then felt I should at least be polite and listen. Everything. And I mean EVERYTHING, they taught me, resonated with experiences I’d already had, or understandings I’d previously gained - some only quite recently, others not. I started reading the Book of Mormon as invited, and could not put it down. I can’t explain it, but there is power in that book. The way I felt when reading it, was incredible, beyond worldly, spiritual, light. I slept with it next to my pillow because I just didn’t want to be away from that feeling. Six weeks, and a lot of discussions and heartfelt prayers later, I was baptised. I expected to feel great on the morning of my baptism, but woke crying my eyes out and feeling like I was grieving. I felt so sad and couldn’t understand it. As I drove to the chapel, bawling my eyes out and wondering why??? I suddenly recalled a scripture verse I’d read - “come to me with a broken heart and contrite spirit”. Oh! I was supposed to feel like this! ☺️ I then expected that feeling to go when I came up out of the water. I was shocked to not experience that. I was still crying, though the water disguised this a little. Then two priesthood holders laid their hands on my head for the blessing part of the baptism, and as they said, “Receive the Holy Ghost”, that broken hearted feeling lifted, and in its place, my entire body, mind & soul filled with what I can only describe as light and THE most incredible feeling of joy. After that, I encountered two concerns in the first six months of my membership. I didn’t yet have a testimony of Joseph Smith having been a prophet of God, and I learned about polygamy being part of the church’s history - which absolutely freaked me out! So I prayerfully sought understanding - willing to walk away if I didn’t, but both times I gained a deep understanding and had these kind of miraculous experiences where information presented to me, to help me understand - via magazines, a university journal I was looking in for an assignment about family therapy. I have zero regrets. I love my faith and how it has grown and changed me, and helped me know who I am at a very deep level, and am so grateful to those two beautiful sister missionaries who knocked on my door all those years ago.

It It’s thirty years ago now, but I had some experiences that caused this then atheist start to shift to the possibility of agnosticism. So I investigated six different types of faith - including Buddhism, which I loved on a lot of levels, but couldn’t understand becoming a monk, hiding away from the world and focusing on your own enlightenment. How does that benefit others? That didn’t sit right with me, even though many of the principles did; this other strange Japanese faith called Mahikari; Church of England (Anglican) which is the Religious class at school my parents affiliated us with, although never baptised; Catholic Church; Jehovah’s Witnesses - only because they’d been knocking on my door forever, so I decided to at least read their magazine this time vs politely accepting it and throwing it in the bin. None of them felt right though. And I really gave each a very good chance. The Anglican Church for three months was the first. I really tried to feel good about it - but had to listen to my instincts, which clearly communicated to me that I didn’t feel ok with what was being taught, or what I was experiencing. I decided at the end of my trial investigations that I didn’t need or want organised religion, and that I would just enjoy this burgeoning relationship/awareness of this higher connection/being - whoever or whatever it was. I was happy with that. Then less than a week later two LDS sister missionaries knocked on my door, and they were like angels - with a kind of light/glow about them. Before I knew what I was doing, I’d invited them in. Then felt I should at least be polite and listen. Everything. And I mean EVERYTHING, they taught me, resonated with experiences I’d already had, or understandings I’d previously gained - some only quite recently, others not. I started reading the Book of Mormon as invited, and could not put it down. I can’t explain it, but there is power in that book. The way I felt when reading it, was incredible, beyond worldly, spiritual, induces light within. I slept with it next to my pillow because I just didn’t want to be away from that feeling. Six weeks, and a lot of discussions and heartfelt prayers later, I was baptised. I expected to feel great on the morning of my baptism, but woke crying my eyes out and feeling like I was grieving. I felt so sad and couldn’t understand it. As I drove to the chapel, bawling my eyes out and wondering why??? I suddenly recalled a scripture verse I’d read - “come to me with a broken heart and contrite spirit”. Oh! I was supposed to feel like this! ☺️ I then expected that feeling to go when I came up out of the water. I was shocked to not experience that. I was still crying, though the water disguised this a little. Then two priesthood holders laid their hands on my head for the blessing part of the baptism, and as they said, “Receive the Holy Ghost”, that broken hearted feeling lifted, and in its place, my entire body, mind & soul filled with what I can only describe as light and THE most incredible feeling of joy. After that, I encountered two concerns in the first six months of my membership. I didn’t yet have a testimony of Joseph Smith having been a prophet of God, and I learned about polygamy being part of the church’s history - which absolutely freaked me out! So I prayerfully sought understanding - willing to walk away if I didn’t, but both times I gained a deep understanding and had these kind of miraculous experiences where information presented to me, to help me understand - via magazines, a university journal I was looking in for an assignment about family therapy. I have zero regrets. I love my faith and how it has grown and changed me, and helped me know who I am at a very deep level, and am so grateful to those two beautiful sister missionaries who knocked on my door all those years ago.

Thanks for posting this. This is terrific and interesting. My father and grandfather loved trains. My grandfather was a Baptist minister and worked for the railroad and this would be his church. Thank you. This truly makes my heart sings. I love being LDS but I am fascinated by other faiths.

So cool! 😎 I love trains!

Why am i watching this at 4am. And why is this so funny, im literally crying. This guy is a savage i love it

This is really cool, thanks for sharing David. Do you know if they would have a sermon at each stop when new people came on and continued to the next stop? 😊

Go to Nauvoo! Our daughter is a missionary there, giving tours of the historic sites.